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Anyone actually using openbazaar ? (self.Bitcoin)

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OpenBazaar was highly anticipated and it seemed like everyone was talking about it. But now no one mentions it, so I was wondering how many shop on it or even have a store.

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[–]dragger2k [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I opened a store and tried but so far it has to be run on a desktop, essentially, and one has to be online in order for your stuff to be visible to anyone else.

Until they get a mobile app and a set-up that does not require a constant live connection in order to be seen, i don't think it will be successful.

I'm an old man not a dev. I use ebay, even though I don't like it, because it simple and had a big userbase.

I hope OB can evolve and make it easy for someone like me.

[–]sharperguy [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

In theory there should be service providers offering OpenBazaar but the demand is hard to bootstrap.

[–]tcrypt [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

There are a few, e.g. http://hostedbazaar.com/. We're also working on allowing offline access to stores so a store's node does not need to be online constantly.

[–]ILikeGreenit [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

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[–]CryptoCollectibles [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bazaar Hound - Mobile OpenBazaar app for Android, IOS, and Windows Mobile

Just a week ago they posted an update on /r/OpenBazaar/ regarding the adding of IPFS so we can have online stores for people not online

Things are progressing but it definitely is not near final phase yet, but more than usable in it's current form for most people I think. That first month was rough with connection issues and some operating systems not even working right, in a short time it has come a long way.

[–]CC_EF_JTF [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hope OB can evolve and make it easy for someone like me.

It is; the OpenBazaar 2.0 is being built now and it will use IPFS, meaning you won't need to run your store 24/7 for your listings to be available.

[–]vbenes [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Also any online statistics?

[–]AnimalCrust [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is probably an unpopular opinion here but I don't think open bazaar will go anywhere until they make it safe enough for drug dealers to use it. I understand the legitimate benefits compared to using a platform like ebay, but I don't think they're compelling enough to attract a lot of users.

There's still a huge need for a decentralized black marketplace. The current centralized ones are still exit scamming left and right.

[–]morebrownies [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

OpenBazaar 2.0 is going to include many major improvements, including ipfs, inventory management, a better design, 3rd party search built in, a built-in wallet, channels for discovering listings, etc.

[–]frankros [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I have sold about 4btc of products so far. I think it is massively underrated even though the user interface is not perfect yet.

[–]CryptoCollectibles [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I have made enough sales that I am just waiting for the moment I can take drop Etsy store completely. I see the userbase and products people sell on Etsy and just wish they knew an option existed to stop all the tons of fees that go into selling on that site.

[–]pb1x [スコア非表示]  (31子コメント)

I tried it but the user interface was quite lacking and it was quite buggy for me.

I like the idea but the execution is difficult for me to find any value in

[–]cartmanbutters [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Had some hiccups over several versions (NaN). Finally got it working after pasting stuff in terminal. Then found nothing to buy. So I tried to sell sunglasses. With Shopify / eBay, I net $15k per month. On OpenBazaar, I didn't get a single sale for first 3 months.

If someone anyone bought since, I don't know about it (I uninstalled a few months ago). Which got me wondering...what happens if someone buys my stuff? Do I still get the sales? Or did my shop go down when I uninstalled? Checked my wallet, no bitcoins yet...

[–]Japface [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Until they integrate ipfs later this year your shop only exists while your computer is on. Or if you ran it on a server, while the server was running. Ipfs will allow them to have more persistence without constantly running your own copy of OB locally.

[–]gubatron [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

they gotta face reality and integrate multiple forms of payment other than Bitcoin, but they're stubborn on the subject.

[–]Japface [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

what other forms do you think they should accept?

[–]CryptoCollectibles [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Interesting, I don't think I have seen the OB1 guys be stubborn on the subject of altcoins, and I know a Shapeshift rep had been in the OB Slack early on, but compared to other things needing done I'm not sure if that is priority.

I'm sure in the end an outside source will take care of payment method issues, as for people who use crypto currencies do not seem to have an issue with this, if they have one alt coin, they most likely have Bitcoin too. It's more a matter of people just want more applications to use their coin is what seems to be an issue.

[–]Japface [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There's a major redesign coming later in the year AFAIK.

[–]Hernzzzz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Last I heard there were less than 300 shops and yeah, its pretty clunky.

[–]Bitcoin_forever [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

I wonder how was first time when you shop on ebay? It was in 1995 when started like AuctionWeb or later when you had a nice and fancy browser? What kind of computer you had in those times?
Everybody wants OB to be from the first day the new ebay but nobody wants to use it and improve it. It's open source so you are invited to contribute if you want.
OB have not even 1 year from his launch day and people start complaining about the interface, number of shops and users. But nobody ask how they can contribute to this open source project.
Be happy that you have this today! A total open source P2P decentralized marketplace is something that humanity never imagine would be possible.
Wake up people! P2P is something that give you power over your money, tools, products, services, rights etc. Is the most powerful protocol that humanity can have.

[–]CatatonicMan [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I wonder how was first time when you shop on ebay? It was in 1995 when started like AuctionWeb or later when you had a nice and fancy browser? What kind of computer you had in those times?

Irrelevant. It doesn't matter how shitty Ebay or any of its precursors were when they started, because OB is competing with what they are now. It has to be at least as good, if not better, if it wants to draw people in.

Wake up people! P2P is something that give you power over your money, tools, products, services, rights etc. Is the most powerful protocol that humanity can have.

Being open source, free, peer-to-peer, etc. is all fine and good, but it's pointless if the software is too clunky to use in practice.

[–]Bitcoin_forever [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Again, instead of complaining you are welcome to contribute.

[–]shadymess [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

So you can't complain about a shitty platform/company? I don't give a fuck about that it's open source if it sucks. I haven't tried OB so I don't know if it sucks, but I guess it's most likely.

[–]Bitcoin_forever [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

No, you can complain if you like, it's your right, but is childish when is open source.
Did you contribute with at least some feedback in the beta testing period? Did you send them some nice written proposals to improve? Nope, you just come here and post that you don't like it and is shit.

[–]qawsed123456 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No, you can complain if you like, it's your right, but is childish when is open source.

What the fuck dude?

[–]CatatonicMan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Such are the words of one who can't accept criticism.

My ability/desire to contribute is irrelevant to the points I'm raising.

[–]pb1x [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

They're a funded company, it's not a charity

[–]Bitcoin_forever [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I was not talking about this, I was saying that is open source. Are 2 different things.

[–]pb1x [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

OK, but I'm a developer, the reason I'd never support these guys is because of how much they've done incorrectly, their unprofessional conduct and contributing would just be helping them raise more money for themselves. Maybe if someone forks it, I would help, but I'm not going to help a for profit company that has raised plenty of investment for free

[–]BeastmodeBisky [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I would help, but I'm not going to help a for profit company that has raised plenty of investment for free

Interesting. I hadn't considered this type of disincentive to contribute to an open source project run by a for-profit. But it makes a lot of sense. I guess that's one clear downside to taking that path, losing out on potential contributors.

[–]nopara73 [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Same here. If it difficult for developers cannot even imagine how hard it is for normal people. But this is something that can be improved.
My main concern of the venture money pured into it. That has to be the main reason behind the tor incompatibility.
And I don't see what's the point of a decentralized market without anonimity.

[–]tcrypt [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

It has nothing to do with investment. The reason we're not compatible with TOR is because the p2p protocol uses UDP. This will be fixed in version 2.0 which will use IPFS. Once we're on IPFS, TOR support can follow.

[–]nopara73 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I am happy to hear it. It was not so obvious when you started. At least I couldn't find a straight answer like this.

[–]NotASithLord7redditor for 26 days [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I saw plenty of straight answers like that just looking at pretty much any interview or product roadmap. People are expecting a revolutionary, flawless, and easy to use product over night. These people aren't developers and have no clue how much work was done just to get it to where it is now. We're talking about a functioning P2P marketplace.

[–]solotronics [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I really appreciate the progress you guys have made! If you allow fully anonymous users and stores then you could capture a lot of the dark net markets. Would your investors be ok with this? Do you plan on tracking or de-anon of users?

[–]nopara73 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hope you get a straight answer to this.

[–]tcrypt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I am a developer and not involved with investor meetings. Anonymity is very important for a truly free market. We can't control how people apply the protocol we develop.

I know of no plans for OB1 to begin tracking or de-anonymizing users. If I found out about any I would be quickly leaving and working on the OpenBazaar platform with another team.

[–]_professorcrypto_ [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Lower fees?

[–]nopara73 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Silk Road had low fees too.

[–]_professorcrypto_ [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

But SR was not directed toward the general public and its customers were mainly drug users. Big difference.

[–]nopara73 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Big difference but if you only care about the fees it doesnt matter

[–]BitttBurger [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I tried it but the user interface was quite lacking. I like the idea but the execution is difficult for me to find any value in.

This is what happens when projects don't have anyone but developers in charge. Same thing happening with the bitcoin user experience and (lack of) real world adoption.

But hey. What do I know. I say obvious, common sense stuff like this here and get a new anus ripped for it. Because it's backwards-land here.

[–]vakeraj [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bitcoin is underlying protocol. If you don't like the user experience, complain to the wallet devs.

[–]x1lclem [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I bought a USB stick to test it out. Worked pretty well! Just waiting for more useful stuff to get listed.

[–]Kimmeh01redditor for 29 days [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You -have- to download a desktop app to shop? In 2016? Never work.

[–]eftresq [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I set up a store and then needed to set up a second client bc of switching to another pc. It's basic but does the job. To be full time on it one would need to have it hosted. Otherwise client only works when you are connected which i learned.

[–]mik0r [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This. Figuring out the store was only available when the client was open sort of bugged me about it. Sure you can go the hosted route but meh.

[–]moYouKnow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I used it to buy some open Bazaar lapel pins just to give it a try it worked great. That said the one weak point seemed to be that searching for things was unreliable but I expect that will get better with time.

[–]bobthesponge1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

For those curious about what's available on OpenBazaar, check out www.duosear.ch

[–]TyTimothy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I set up a hosted store but quickly realized that OB is painfully lacking in its feature set. They need to be at least on early-2000s eBay level.

[–]pinhead26 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I bought a shirt!

And my Bitcoin Clock is for sale!

[–]TheAlexGalaxy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

OB is hamstrung because its market must emerge out of the tiny number of people who own and are willing to spend bitcoin. Markets rely on network effects. :(

[–]jankovize [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

no

[–]NewForOlly [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I would like to be using OpenBazaar however I find the usability to be lacking

[–]AstarJoe [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The fact that I can't simply open it in a browser and do things with it kind of made it a little cumbersome to me. I suppose in a specific use case it might be useful, but how many people did they really expect to download a client and run it whenever they needed to shop quickly? Everything is going to the cloud, and this is like a step back from a usability perspective. I recognize that the technical details require them to do it this way, and I'm simply saying that this is irrelevant, unless they have a specific business model to address a specific set of users that they are targeting. From a mass usability standpoint, I don't see how they could expect this to take off in it's current form.

[–]NotASithLord7redditor for 26 days [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's an app, people don't use apps?

[–]barnsligpark [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I do have a store but I must admit I do find it quite buggy and hard to search for items, even basic searching doesn't really work well enough. I do like the interface apart from that however.

[–]RogerWilco357 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I had a store set up to sell firearms. 100% legal Canadian sales only. Don't advertise firearms over at /bazaarmarkets though, they will delete your post. Openbazaar is buggy and not worth the effort. Couldn't even connect to my own listings most of the time.

[–]Rhader [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It needs a lot of work. I cant even log on to it at times. Else I would love to use it to buy/sell

[–]IHOPENOBODYUSEDTHIS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I installed it the first day and the install is no longer working. I can't update or anything. Rather than spend the time troubleshooting I just moved on.

[–]sreaka [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes, I use it, but to be honest it's more convenient for me to buy Amazon gift cards on Paxful and spend there.

[–]CryptoCollectibles [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It is why a lot of us here still use Credit Cards over Bitcoin in a lot of cases, convenience. I hope the people here who have given OB a try earlier on have re-given it a try, look in the Mobile App, and use the other means of searching like BazaarBay or DuoSear.ch rather than the built in discovery/search for now.

[–]Jmancino2 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Installed on a laptop, cool. Setup some stuff, made some changes. Realized it would be nicer on a VPS. No import export functions. Documentation is for old versions, lacking for new. Huge pain in the ass to move the setup. Figured a lot of it out, decided to start from scratch anyway. Needs to be easier for an average joe, I'm mildly technical and it was a pain. Has potential but who wants to use something that is a hassle to backup and restore or move. I'm keeping an eye on it though, I do like the idea.

[–]CryptoCollectibles [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I had the same issues, moved onto DigitalOcean, was a pain in the ass, and documentation should definitely be updated just a little. I had a ton of items not showing and other errors for a bit. The devs need a guy on the side working for them doing clean up and making sure all these side things get done while the big issues are being tackled.

[–]rodeopenguin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Everyone is saying that the user experience is lacking and yet I have been told for a year now on this sub that user experience doesn't matter.

[–]mistaik [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Bitcoin’s killer apps are coming soon. You can almost taste it in the air. Some big things are coming this year in the crypto-world, and they are going to shake up the globe. No one knows what these applications may be, but some are guessing." -- The Decentralized Marketplace: Bitcoin’s Next Killer App; https://news.bitcoin.com/decentralized-marketplace-bitcoins-next-killer-app/

[–]BTCHIGH [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's clunky