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High-qualityFinal Response Megathread (self.EnoughTrumpSpam)

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We have some very fine folks on this subreddit who have taken it upon themselves to do some research on a wide amount of topics. This is a collection of all of our "final responses" to certain topics, which will be updated as we move forward. Please tell me if I have missed any, and just message us if we forget to add yours to this list in the future.

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Again, please do tell me if I missed anything.

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[–]wondergoinanon 44ポイント45ポイント  (7子コメント)

Thanks mods and this subreddit, for a comprehensive and detailed list of facts!

[–]CasuallyCreative 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sadly, most Trump supporters will go through some serious mental gymnastics to explain all of this.

[–]KnowKnee 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

When people reject the definition of 'fact', I stop talking. A fact is not debatable.

Except on a particular subreddit, the earth is round. I think it's a great idea when people who dispute established facts like that stay in their own, little, deluded world. I wish other fact-disputers would do the same.

The sun will rise tomorrow no matter how loudly and frequently someone screams that the fact of sunrise is left-leaning and doesn't apply to the right. The sun doesn't give a fuck. Grow up. Truth is truth, even when we hate it.

[–]Vladimir_Putins_Cock 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump himself has made it pretty clear he doesn't give a shit about facts. I don't expect his supporters to either

[–]inkrat 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or from my experience, they simply ignore it all and keep on going.

One directly reply was simply: "I'm not going to read all of that." With a Hillary is Hitler meme image remark below it.

[–]trump_is_antivaxx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

the_donald: now with more mental gymnasts than the Special Olympics.

[–]epicblob 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Facts? More than /r/the_Donald can say.

[–]barktreep 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

mods=librarians

[–]RedCanadaI cucked John Miller[M,🍰] 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yo /u/v12a12 can you add Debunking the Hillary Clinton KKK meme., which is debunking the Hillary kissing Robert Byrd photophop that Trump marks like to spread everywhere all the time under the bonus section? Thanks!

[–]marisam7 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I made another one: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4uapwn/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/

[–]v12a12[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very high quality; added.

[–]AnAccountForLurking 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Please add this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4peon0/reminder_that_donald_trump_is_an_accused/

It's sort of like a final response to "Tell me why Trump is a pedophile"

[–]drinkthepill 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

Just throwing the idea out there. It would be nice to have a final response for, "why Hillary is objectively a better choice than Trump" or "why Trump is way worse than Hillary". Specifically for the Berners who claim that both Clinton and Trump are "equally as bad".

[–]YodaGandalfDumbled0rFlipflopper 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's r/EnoughHillHate's job.

[–]4_Salaam 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't think we should try to cause division in this subreddit... We are united by our displeasure in Trump's campaign and T_D, let's not try to make it so we bring in to question whether or not we like Hillary or Sanders or Stein or Johnson, or whoever it is.

If something like this were to happen, I know users like myself could possibly leave (if it gets to the point that it's basically "you're with us or against us").

Whoever we support doesn't matter; it's about who we don't want in the White House (Trump).

[–]Sir_Marcus 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

What we have here on this subreddit is a rainbow coalition of people united in opposition to the fascist Trump. We are republicans and democrats, libertarians and communists, muslims and jews.

Just like the Allied Powers put aside their differences to stop the Third Reich, we too must stand together to stop the alt-reich.

[–]4_Salaam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish I wasn't poor so I could give you gold.

[–]drinkthepill 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

What's the point of hating Trump if we aren't supporting the means to stop him from becoming president. This isn't about liking Hillary or Bernie. (I'm a Bernie supporter whose voting Hillary) It's about recognizing that Trump has to be stopped and Clinton is the only viable option to do get that done.

I'm not advocating this sub become pro Hillary. I'm just saying it would be nice to have a resource to use for the, "Hillary is just as bad as Trump" argument. She's objectively better, and Trump is objectively the worst human being to ever come this close to the presidency.

[–]4_Salaam 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's fine for a sub like r/enoughhillhate, but I don't really want to cause those of us who are anti-Clinton to be put off by this sort of talk. Remember, we have conservatives who are here, and I kinda doubt they are super for Hillary.

It would also give T_D more proof for their ridiculous claim that we are a Hillary-funded group.

I like how this sub has been. They created flairs for people of all different candidates, right or left, and hasn't been pushing for the election of one candidate over another.

Maybe Clinton is better than Trump, but I think the purpose of this sub should stay as to show that Trump and TD are terrible.

[–]drinkthepill 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't feel that I'm disagreeing with anything you're saying. Again, I'm not advocating that this sub change in anyway. I don't want for people to start posting pro Hillary stuff here. I was just suggesting a resource for that particular argument. I don't think having it would impact the sub in any way, but whatever, you have a point. r/enoughhilhate would probably be a better sub. Fuck Trump. That's all that matters.

[–]TheDarkAgniRises 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

PLEASE! SOMEONE NOT AS LAZY AS WE ARE! AND DONT HALF ASS IT, WHOLE ASS IT! Imagine how much money CTR will give us when we can just simply link haters to that 'final response,' efficiency will increase by 100%, we'll be fucking DROWNING in $hillbucks!

[–]NerdFighter40351 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

He made another one. https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4ufond/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/

[–]KabIoski 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mods: if you ever unsticky this, it needs to be added to the sidebar.

[–]v12a12[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It will be sidebarred soon.

[–]ForeverDia5 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think posts get fewer upvotes if you sticky them tbh. I for one often overlook them. Good post anyway, thanks.

[–]v12a12[S,M] 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't care about upvotes; I do hope that people do see this, and stickying makes a post gain traction faster than a non-stickied post.

[–]HideNZeke 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

but you aren't gonna get r/all to see it without the karma

[–]nice_memexD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

pls make this the one post on this sub that is permanently stickied. these posts are the most important things on this sub and are the first things newcomers joining us and those who oppose us should see

[–]LCD75 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Has ETS just created a WMD?

[–]Wateriswet1212 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for this final response megathread!

[–]Illpaco 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

MODS = GODS!

But seriously, this is the kind of organization this sub needs in order to become more relevant. I'm glad to see a step in the right direction.

[–]trump_is_antivaxx 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Are pro-Clinton (as opposed to anti-Trump) final responses wanted? In particular I was thinking of creating a final response to the email and Benghazi claims, and maybe some other conspiracy theories.

However, if this sub is only anti-Trump and not pro-Clinton that's cool and I'll post it in the Clinton subs instead.

Anyway, absolutely fantastic work and a big thank you to everyone who helped contribute!

Another concept: Trumptrolls often claim that Clinton is a liar, which is hilarious if you consider Trump's record of speaking "untruths". This gives me the idea of creating "Tell me why Trump is a habitual liar".

[–]v12a12[S,M] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

We are anti-Trump. If you can cite examples of Trump saying stuff about email/Benghazi claims, the post is allowed.

[–]trump_is_antivaxx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair cop, guv. Better pull the finger out and get to work.

[–]Chrysalii 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes.

It would be useful for those who think "Trump may be bad, but Hillary is worse" I could cite the excellent work done in this series all day but it wouldn't break through that wall.

It might be better to post that on /r/enoughHillHate and then link to it from here.

[–]DylanTBest123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was thinking of creating a final response to the email and Benghazi claims

Yes please. If not on this sub, somewhere else.

[–]Machidaaa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think these should be reposted onto /r/self.

[–]namelessbanana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks!

[–]Zincoshine3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

can this be a perma-sticky? I am so sick and tired of repeating myself to people.

[–]Chrysalii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think one final piece of this series would be some explanation of how Trump got to the position he is in.

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    [–]v12a12[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't click; high chance of malware ^

    [–]ilovekingbarrett 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    why does "important stuff" and "further reading" lead to old articles/not as good posts when this is the stuff that gets tweeted by steve yeum or whatever the fuck? this should be the big text link on the sidebar to be totally honest, or at least, one of these should.

    [–]marisam7 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I made another one:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4ufond/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/

    [–]v12a12[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Added a bit ago. You're a god.

    [–]nice_memexD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    GUYS: TAKE THIS TO /r/all

    [–]AnAccountForLurking 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also, this might be good to add:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4oc5xr/reminder_that_trump_is_a_climate_change_denier_50/

    The formatting isn't very good but it's basically a final response to "Tell me why Trump is a climate change denier".

    [–]witchwind 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Is the alt-right a Christian movement, or is it just based around bigotry, anger, and fear?

    [–]Piglet86 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Don't think it was ever a christian movement as they have a major say in the republican party already.

    It has its roots in libertarianism/an-caps but has been co-opted by outright fascists. Like legit neo-nazi, KKK, white supremacists types.

    [–]pink_gabriel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's decently accurate.

    [–]ForeverDia5 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Well kind of but also not. They coopt Christianity to some extent in order to push their idealized version of the "Western civilization" they claim is in crisis. You see this a lot on the internet with people having crusade themed profile pics talking about "repelling the Muslim invasion" etc.

    But at its core the alt-right is a fascist movement. Fascists are generally irreligious (unless you count their fanatic belief in the nation state as a religion). They tend to repress religious movements or morph them to fit their agenda. They are definitely strongly opposed to liberal interpretations of Christianity, Christian democracy and Christian socialism.

    [–]witchwind 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    They'd be a-OK with evangelicals and born-again Christians.

    [–]ForeverDia5 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes, definitely. It fits their traditionalism. I suppose if the US became fascist the evangelical churches would be supported so long as they co-operate and further the fascist agenda. No preaching of that "blessed are the poor" stuff or criticizing the state and the elite though.

    [–]NoRefundsBernouts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Bane?

    [–]Inconvenienced 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Alt-right is just code for neo-fascism.

    [–]Unusual_Enemas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Where can I find the debunk on the DNC emails?

    [–]hotpinkrazr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not every Trump supporter is a bigot! Some are Russian.

    [–]insideofus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ultra high quality, this needs to be in the sidebar, this needs its own sub, this needs to be on the front page of /r/all days in a row

    [–]JamarcusRussel -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    i made one about the tim kaine gift scandal a couple days ago