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[–]ContraPositiveWord is bond 55ポイント56ポイント  (10子コメント)

This is amazing, thank you.

I laughed out loud at the first point, I hadn't heard that one yet. That's literally what kings and emperors sometimes did in the ancient world before people understood inflation and depreciation. It's also what France did in the French Revolution that, in part, made their bread riots worse. How is this guy a fucking president candidate in 2016? And why does no one confront him on these ignorant views every time he appears publicly?

[–]hansn 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't see how he can be in favor of both printing money to pay debts and in favor of the gold standard. Maybe I am missing some subtlety in the crazy .

[–]ContraPositiveWord is bond 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Kek, you must play chess in only 3 dimensions...

[–]nice_memexD 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

everyone knows trump is a master of 666 dimension club penguin.... you'll have to get on his level to understand

[–]Chrysalii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I assume it's the same thought process of people who were all in on Harold Camping in 2011.

[–]CHark80 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hate to be a cynic but I don't think a large chunk of the population still understand inflation

[–]ContraPositiveWord is bond 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, good point. I guess I should have said the concept of inflation didn't exist. Like when Emperor Aurelian tried to fix Rome's currency problems (their currency had become less valuable because corrupt minters had stolen the silver intended to value the coins and replaced it with less valuable metals) he killed a bunch of the corrupt officials who had devalued his currency, moved the minting infrastructure, and replaced all the minters. Roman currency became more valuable because it had more silver in it (you can literally see the difference in per- and post-Aurelian coins). But then he printed so many coins he caused inflation to increase. It's an excusable mistake back then, because no one alive would have been able to tell him about inflation. Today people are just ignorant, cheeto-colored buffoons.

[–]CougarBen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's immune to rational conversation. The only defense is to ignore him and not vote for him. I fear it's too late for that, though.

[–]Silly_Balls 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because it's just to much. I mean really where do you begin

[–]ContraPositiveWord is bond 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

True, but you gotta start somewhere. Too many "journalists" interview him without really challenging him. I'd be fine with them hitting him on one or two of his crazy beliefs each time they talked to him. But often they're just giving him a platform to spew more bullshit.

[–]ryancalibur 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

He tried to sell the Empire State Building? Without owning it? What? Literally what?

[–]DaLinkster 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In a similar fashion, Victor Lustig was a con-artist who "sold" the Eiffel Tower, twice.

Still not quite as good at the man who sold the world

[–]Doppleganger07 69ポイント70ポイント  (2子コメント)

C......CUCK!!

Don't you know Trump has 500 billion fafillion dollars?!?!

Do YOU have a thousand billion dollars that YOU made 100% all by yourself with no help from ANYONE??

If you DON'T have 11,000 billion, then kindlly STFU!

The un-cuckening is upon us!

MEXICAN IS NOT A RACE!!

WE HAVE A BLACK SUPPORTER!!

[–]Yoyo_ElDar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

But... I thought...he made it with a small loan of a million dollars from daddy???

[–]LordoftheScheisseFucksWithCucks 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

We have the best final responses, folks. The best!

I've only skimmed this post thus far, but I can say with certainty that the majority of them only skim the surface of how scummy Trump has been in his business career. Do yourself a favor and delve into each link and, if you're feeling saucy, look for further reading. The man is insane, vindictive, unfit, and delusional.

[–]4_Salaam 44ポイント45ポイント  (2子コメント)

Once again, you blow me away.

Someday, when I'm rich, ima give you gold for a lifetime.

[–]Kzraxus 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump tries to sell the Empire State Building despite not owning it. He then sues the real owner in retaliation.

For real.

This list is a bit sadder than funny, then again he probably ruined the life of 6 digits worth of people (aka, over 100,000) so i have no empathy for him.

So i can laugh away.

[–]youlostthewarwehrs 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

He'll get a small donation of a million gold.

[–]themrcool 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

These are my favorite kind of posts on this sub. Very helpful in articulating just how ridiculous Trump is as a candidate. Thanks!

[–]witchwind 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

Why do right wingers masturbate over the gold standard?

[–]lovelybone93 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Usually "libertarians" and fringe conservatives do this. The former based on Austrian economics, the latter about small gubbmint or something.

[–]BombastixderTeutone 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because the concept of FIAT money is too complex for them and they need things that you can touch to understand them.

[–]incognito1600 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well to be fair FIAT currency favors financial systems directly not citizens... having a direct tie to something finite holds down inflation and the ability of a government to destroy the worth of a currency through printing. However if fiat currency benefits a financial system to such an extent that the citizens see a far larger quality of life boost versus the potential risk of hyper inflation of the currency due to inappropriate printing... then yeah fiat wins out. Overall fiat currency is a system that requires citizens to have significant financial knowledge and that to maintain wealth one has to find capital investments to beat out inflation versus stuffing it in your mattress.

[–]kerbuffel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My dad has been buying silver for the past couple of years so I have some experience with this line of thinking. (Though I think the main reason has more to do with his sincere belief that the United States is headed for a civil war and will be plunged into the dark ages and he'll be able to use it for currency, but...)

The position has less to do with economic theory and more about an emotional response to anything the government controls. I think it has to do with him hating taxes so much, which leads to an overall negative view of the government as a whole, and a negative view of anything they do. And since the government controls currency, that's obviously something that needs to be ptu to an end.

Then they find someone that espouses they view but has enough free time to write at length about it, and then they can point to that "research" as a basis for their belief that returning to the gold (or silver) standard would be good for the economy.

I don't want to make this an "dumb conservatives vs enlightened liberals" thing. I could make the same argument about myself and gay marriage. I believe that anyone should have the right to consent to marry whomever they choose, And I will selectively pursue literature that backs up that belief. I like to pretend that the stuff I'm reading is more reliable or whatever, but if my core belief was different, would I feel the same way about the literature from the other side?

This is more or less true of all people. People crave being told they are right, and take grave offense to even the insinuation they might be wrong.

[–]ALudicrousDisplay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shiny metal thats kind of useful in electronics but mostly decorative has more REAL VALUE than a currency with which products and services can be bought.

[–]doughboy666 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because it gives money actual value. Basically right now our money is only worth what we are told it is.

I really don't see how the gold standard changes that, but that is the argument everyone makes.

[–]TekharthaZenyatta 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Literally all value ever is abstract.

[–]doughboy666 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well that would be the point of that second sentence...

[–]NoonecanknowMiner 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump shows he doesn’t know how the economy works by thinking he can fix the debt by just printing more money.

That worked out real well for the Germans.

As for everything else...let's continue this movement! #CROOKEDTRUMP #TRUMPFORPRISON2016

[–]Otacon_Prime 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

If trump were really a financial genius, wouldn't he be begging to show his tax returns?

[–]jednorog 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

*steak, not stake.

Otherwise, perfect.

[–]4_Salaam 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump was really into the vampire apocalypse at the time.

[–]el_matt 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Much of this (if not all of it) is probably true, but unfortunately people won't care. Trump should never, ever in a million years be president of the USA, but people will still vote for him. As a Brit who campaigned to remain in the EU it is very difficult, if not impossible, to convince people whose experience of life relies on the fundamentally emotional, that logical and historical arguments are of any value at all.

Their response is likely to be "You can prove anything with facts, can't you?"

[–]OttotheTurk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

it is very difficult, if not impossible, to convince people whose experience of life relies on the fundamentally emotional

I agree. I think we are becoming more polarized as a society and that leads to emotions overriding logic and reason.

[–]czarist 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ha, cuck. You've dug yourself a hole this time. Islam isn't a race, libtard. The Don is just playing 4d chess, and you've been checkmated. Wall just got 69 feet higher.

[–]PlayMp1 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

he can fix the debt by just printing more money.

This is technically correct, however, it also tanks your economy.

[–]TheDarkAgniRises 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

DO ONE ABOUT WHY HILLARY ISNT A SHITSTAIN LIKE DRUMPF, PLEASE!

[–]marisam7[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

Planned after I do the final response to why Trump is a liar.

[–]TheDarkAgniRises 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

SHIT THE GOD OF TRUMP-FUCKERY RESPONDED TO ME! ALL HAIL HIS CUCKINESS! Also seriously? Because like, I've seen your other posts and damn are they insightful, and the one I asked for would REAAAALLY help with the bernie-or-ww3 crowd. Plus I'm too busy (Read: Furiously shilling to get my CTR checks) to make one. Do your country a service, you MADMAN!

[–]Nucleic_Acid 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too bad hillary actually is a shitstain

[–]OttotheTurk 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

What is "CTR" ???

[–]LordoftheScheisseFucksWithCucks 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Correct The Record. Funded by the DNC/Clinton camp, it pays people to post positive things about Hillary or "correct" negative things about her.* Have you not been receiving your checks?

*allegedly

[–]umpteenth_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if you cannot post it in this subreddit, you could post it in a pro-Hillary subreddit, of which there are several.

[–]shakypearsGet over it: Clinton is better than Trump 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

EnoughHillHate would be a good place for the pro-Hillary one, or the HillaryClinton sub itself.

[–]bloodshed343 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump promises to decrease taxes without decreasing the national deficit despite the fact that is literally impossible.

Should be "without increasing".

[–]DopeazTHIS ACCOUNT PROPERTY OF CORRECT THE RECORD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

*steak

[–]ForeverDia5 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I love you.

[–]Jilsk 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Love you too.

[–]4_Salaam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love everyone!

Free love for all (in order to redeem you must renounce all hate for other people).

[–]DuelistDeCoolest 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Admit it, you cucks just hate Trump cuz he's rich and successful. And he isn't politically correct. And he's a strong leader. And he's nimble. And he's bulging with what could be muscle. And, and... oh Donny take me now!

[–]Huwbacca 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just fed up of such a conniving, lying politician. He spends all his time saying how he's different, but he's lost than all of them.

[–]Ninjaofdoom 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Trump is a dipshit but the first point in the post is unfair. He is right in saying that the US cannot default on debt, and it's not right to characterise him as claiming it as the solution for sovereign debt (unless there is stuff outside of the three articles).

The second article especially is bs- the reason Greece could not just "print out more money" to solve their debt problems is because Greece does not control its monetary supply- that is simple economics.

[–]shakypearsGet over it: Clinton is better than Trump 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

The second article especially is bs- the reason Greece could not just "print out more money" to solve their debt problems is because Greece does not control its monetary supply- that is simple economics.

Simple economics is that you can't drastically increase the money supply without causing massive inflation and its attendant problems.

[–]janitor53 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

that is the theory but we've seen in practice that it's not necessarily true....

[–]Ninjaofdoom 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tell that to the US Fed, the BoJ or the ECB. Quantitative easing programs have done just that with the goal of stimulating inflation to limited success.

But all of that is beyond the point, which is that nations in control of their currency will never default on debt issued in that currency. That's part of what makes US debt so appealing to investors- it's illegal for the state to not pay it off.

[–]Wobbly_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's baffling how anyone beyond ansy teenagers could unironically say they're voting for Trump, but here we are. He's the fucking republican candidate.

[–]cebedec 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

[–]DrunkRobot97 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would have your babies if I was equipped.

[–]ALudicrousDisplay 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

His claims about having a trade deficit are even more wrong becuase theres nothing wrong with having a trade deficit.

[–]LordoftheScheisseFucksWithCucks 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But THEY'RE BEATING US AT TRADE!

[–]JokeDeity 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Do you think America cares? America is prepared to vote for Hitler this year and no 'facts' are going to change it.

[–]ben1204 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TO THE MEGATHREAD

[–]falsevillain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why? Why does he keep doing things? It should be illegal to allow someone to do so many wrong things.

[–]threetogetready 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

EMOTIONALLY POTENT OVER SIMPLIFICATION

[–]Iowa_Viking 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How the hell is this guy still rich? Like, I know he's nowhere near the level of actual rich guys like Bill Gates or Warren Buffett, but a couple hundred million is still more than I'll see in my lifetime.

[–]DayMan4224 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tour De Trump? He must have a room in his house with a bunch of mirrors just in it so he can masturbate to himself.