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[–]AuroraHalsey 325ポイント326ポイント  (64子コメント)

Dog years are kinda stupid though.

[–]GuyWithFace 403ポイント404ポイント  (19子コメント)

It's an easy way to get children to understand why their pet dog dies so much sooner than they do.

[–]kbox 142ポイント143ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's why it's always better if the kid goes first.

[–]WanderingStoner 48ポイント49ポイント  (1子コメント)

I usually have trouble explaining to the child why it needs to be put down just because our dog is getting old.

[–]Daikni 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its fine. Kids dont do much anyways.

[–]theSchlongMong -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

:'(

[–]shr3dthegnarbrah -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who wants kids? Or dogs for that matter?

[–]Ouroboron 99ポイント100ポイント  (27子コメント)

They make sense, actually. It's based on the equivalency of human years, given that they develop and mature and age much more quickly than we do. A twenty year old human is generally fit and virile and in the Paine of life. A twenty year old dog? Not so much.

Prime, not Paine. Don't know how I screwed that up so badly, but I did.

[–]emotionlotionChristopher Wal-kin 24ポイント25ポイント  (26子コメント)

given that they develop and mature and age much more quickly than we do

But converting to dog years doesn't really work for development and maturity. Dogs can reach sexual maturity at anywhere from 6 months to 2 years depending on the breed, which would be 3.5-14 human years. So why not just say dogs have a shorter lifespan like we do for every other animal?

[–]It91111 48ポイント49ポイント  (23子コメント)

Because a 5 year old wont understand that but they might be able to figure out when you explain dog years vs. Human years to them.

[–]emotionlotionChristopher Wal-kin 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

A 5 year old likely has no concept of how humans age, so the comparison is pretty worthless. I doubt the 5 year old can even do the multiplication to convert to dog years. And the whole concept seems to linger long past the age of not being able to understand that dogs don't live as long as humans.

[–]yournoodle -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hahahahhhaa. What? You don't give the child the equation. Haha. You would tell your five year old,

"hey even tho we have had doggy since you were one, since he's a dog, he's not four years old, he's 35, like daddy! (Or any relative ) so he can't play as hard any more and you need to be gentle ......."

[–]emotionlotionChristopher Wal-kin 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

he's not four years old, he's 35, like daddy!

And that's perfect example of why it's stupid. You didn't even do the math right, but it doesn't really matter because the concept is ridiculous. You can make up any age you want in that situation, if that's how you feel you need to explain the concept of aging. If it's only useful in a situation where the kid is too young to understand the "equation", why even have an equation? And why perpetuate it beyond that age?

[–]yournoodle -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Haha you're so weird. It doesn't affect you or really anybody ever. It's just a cute way of thinking of your dogs age and it's a simple way of teaching your children the concept of your dog dying at 'only 13' when really he's way older in 'dog years'. As for continuing to do it, it's fun and simple and there's no point thinking differently than what I was taught as a child.

[–]emotionlotionChristopher Wal-kin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

there's no point thinking differently than what I was taught as a child

The point would be actually knowing the lifespan of a dog, which most kids don't. Plenty of adults don't know either. But everyone knows how to convert to dog years. And it's one thing to use it to explain to kids why their dog died, but people also try to apply it to different stages of the dog's life, like adolescence, even though it doesn't apply at all.

[–]jago81 -1ポイント0ポイント  (17子コメント)

But when that 5 year old is 20 we should go back to using actual years. Do we really need to protect adults from the fact that dogs die younger?

[–]Crippled_Lamp 30ポイント31ポイント  (11子コメント)

It's just turned into a thing that's fun to think about. It puts into perspective how old this dog is for people who have never had a dog.

[–]lawrence_uber_alles 42ポイント43ポイント  (10子コメント)

For real. People are getting way too uppity about a colloquial rule of thumb.

[–]Shtruntz& The Fedora Of Privilege 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to Reddit! Where we get mad at people for getting mad about silly things because they are the wrong silly things to get angry about.

[–]Kylar_SternShitlordsOfAcid 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

Triggered! Did you know that "Rule of thumb" comes from when men were allowed to beat their wives with a stick, given that it was no wider than his thumb? Of course you didn't, with your male privilege! /s

[–]lawrence_uber_alles 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not sure if you're joking, but Wikipedia doesn't exactly back that story up.

[–]Kylar_SternShitlordsOfAcid 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes I was absolutely joking, should have included /s

[–]Ouroboron 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

You can't do much damage with that now, can you? Perhaps it should have been called the rule of wrist.

[–]Kylar_SternShitlordsOfAcid 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, it all depends on what you are using. A young buckthorn tree, for example. Now that will do some damage! I mean, that's not even funny, shitlord cis scum!

[–]emotionlotionChristopher Wal-kin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just not a particularly good rule of thumb. Most people probably couldn't tell you the average lifespan of a dog, but everyone knows how to convert to dog years.

[–]It91111 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No your not wrong that as people get older and grasp the concept of time and death better its illogical to simplify itbto the same level as for a child. But i think the artical that was used for this thread was just showing that the dog was really old and using a larger number is more impressive thus more likely to get clicks.

[–]99BottlesOfMemes 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Jesus Christ. It's a fucking way to show roughly how old a dog is. 20 for a dog is ROUGHLY as if a human was 145. Don't make this into something bigger than it is.

[–]jago81 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol making something bigger than it is is exactly what dog years does.

[–]yournoodle -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why do you care though?

[–]jago81 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do you care that I care? Does it matter?

[–]Brandilio -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's life average. Humans live around 70 years on average. Canines live around 10 years on average (give or take depending on the breed). Their ten is like our seventy.

[–]emotionlotionChristopher Wal-kin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I understand how it works, but if it's just about lifespan, why not just say that dogs have an average lifespan of 10-13 years? And the whole concept doesn't really work for dogs at either end of the size spectrum, and given the popularity of small breeds, it's not really applicable half of the time.

Ask a kid how long a dog lives and most of them couldn't tell you, but almost every single one of them knows how to convert to dog years.

[–]Wormy-77GeeseKin In Training 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but that doesn't mean this guy should go all tumbly iamverysmart.

[–]Terminal-Psychosis 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a simplistic ratio. "Rule of thumb" if you will.

It is useful, and interesting, because we can relate more to our pets' life cycle that way

and if you really wanna get deep, come to terms with our own inevitable end to boot.

[–]thatsmyaibo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why? It's a method of conversion to easily make life spans relative.

If you think about it, equating and average life span to the amount of times the Earth revolves around the sun is a bit odd in the first place.

[–]HellsArchitect 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Agreed. Dogs ages don't scale linearly with humans. Dogs grow up super quick, then don't age much at all for most of their lifespan and then get old very quickly.

E.g. Dogs are sexually mature within 6 months. That's 1/24 of their average lifespan. Scaling linearly for humans that'd be around 3 years old. Humans sure as fuck arent sexually mature at 3 years old.

tl;dr Dog years are for the kind of idiots who put sweaters on their dogs. It's just delusional.

[–]Bucholicholera -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Totally agree! Dog years were made up by people who anthropomorphize an animal- they want it to be something it's not. Dogs have been bred by humans for thousands of years and therefore act in a way that is pleasing to humans, in a way that makes us react emotionally. We begin to think that they're just like us- but they're not. They're wonderful, cute, dangerous carnivores that have been adapted to our needs. They have been used as pack animals, fur producers, vermin repellant, hunting tools, weapons, guards, and even food. Dogs are great, but they're not people.

[–]yournoodle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not to humanise dogs, it's to think relatively about their lifespan v our lifespan. Saying a dog is 15 years old doesn't have the same "woah that dog is old!" effect as saying he's over 100 years old to people who aren't used to dogs. A 15 year old dog has elderly issues, a 15 year old human does not.

[–]KingTwix 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes sense when you really think about it They age 7x(?) times faster than us, so for every 1 of our years, they age what would be the equivalent of 7(?) years to us.

Yeah it is pretty dumb actually.

[–]Bournemuth 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's an easy way of saying, "That's like a human living to 145 years old"

[–]TimGuoRen 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

But it is not even true.

Small breeds usually die at age 15-16, large breeds usually die at age 10-13.

Humans die with age 65 on average.

This makes this dog 87 (65/15*20=87).

[–]RosaMariposa15 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Human life expectancy is 75

[–]TimGuoRen 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe in the US. In Europe, it is 80. In Africa, it is 55. On average, it is 65.

[–]RosaMariposa15 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just checked and worldwide it is 70 for men and 73 for women

[–]TimGuoRen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This says the over all average is 67.2:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Variation_over_time

But whatever. This is not the point anyways.

[–]RishodiPlump-kin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since no human has ever lived that long, that's further evidence that it's a poor metric of comparison.

[–]LordOfCinder -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was actually just thinking though, if we encountered several alien species in the future, wouldn't it be better to adopt a "dog years" type of system? That way we can gauge how mature an intelligent life is, even if it's expected to live a max of 3 weeks?