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I think religion is good coz people are stupid, emotional and destructive and need to be ruled by a dictator not just physically but psychologically as well. People shouldn't have the freedom to keep breeding. When populations get more than necessary, giving birth should be a privilege not a right.

People should be fed a religion that doesn't come into conflict with scientific advancements yet gives people a sense of hope and purpose in life.

All in all, democracy and freedom is bad. People are too stupid to be able to make their own choices. The catch is to find a ruler that's smart and benevolent of course.

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[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (14子コメント)

Try harder big guy

Edit - Rather than remove it: TWO MEN ENTER!

[–]ChemicalKid 17ポイント18ポイント  (12子コメント)

This entire post is stupid, emotional, and destructive.

I, as your benevolent dictator, revoke your right to speak anymore on this issue, and since democracy and freedom is bad, you have no right to fight this revocation.

[–]Dzugavili 14ポイント15ポイント  (18子コメント)

I agree. We should probably keep you from breeding.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (17子コメント)

I know your life from beginning to end and it's nothing worth preserving. Just same old bullshit. I really don't see the problem here.

[–]Dzugavili 7ポイント8ポイント  (16子コメント)

For shits and giggles, lay it out for me. Tell me my story.

You're probably right. 99% of the us are completely unworthy of mention in world history. And I'm fine with that. That's completely normal.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (15子コメント)

You don't have a story. That's my point.

[–]Dzugavili 7ポイント8ポイント  (13子コメント)

Damn, that's a solid burn. I left an icepack around here somewhere...

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (12子コメント)

You think it was a just a petty insult?

[–]Dzugavili 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

Eh. You bore me. I hope you get cancer of the face.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

It wasn't a petty insult. I could seriously look at you and know everything important there is to know about you. Your responses are indicative themselves of everything you are and embody. I see your whole life like a rat in a maze.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

So put up or shut up bitch.

Give us his story champ.

[–]Dzugavili 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

And I seriously hope you get face cancer, and it falls off, and your dog eats it.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I can tell you are one of those people who makes the lamest most juvenile jokes which results in being socially isolated and often bullied if not surrounded by equally lame individuals.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone has a story you halfwit.

God I keep hoping you'll post something actually interesting and I'm continually disappointed.

[–]Nepycros 9ポイント10ポイント  (10子コメント)

You're twisted. A twisted person using an abhorrent method for determining policy.

people are stupid, emotional and destructive and need to be ruled by a dictator not just physically but psychologically as well.

When people are NOT under psychological rule, they are capable of incredible things.

People should be fed a religion that doesn't come into conflict with scientific advancements yet gives people a sense of hope and purpose in life.

Incongruous statement. Any religion with "a sense of hope and purpose in life" can't be demonstrated to be true with scientific knowledge.

All in all, democracy and freedom is bad.

Turn in every tool you use that was developed by free people, then. Now.

[–]NicCage4life 32ポイント33ポイント  (14子コメント)

You lost me at "coz".

[–]iheartrms 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

All in all, democracy and freedom is bad. People are too stupid to be able to make their own choices. The catch is to find a ruler that's smart and benevolent of course.

You are absolutely right. I'll be PMing you my address. You are expected to report at once. I'm smart and benevolent. You can trust me. Totally. We can't have you getting into trouble making stupid choices, can we?

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

what are you blabbering about?

[–]iheartrms 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Here we have yet another perfect example of why you need to give up your freedom to me and become my slave. How many more poor decisions must you make before you realize I really am your best choice?

[–]beenpimpin[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Demonstrate your capability.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think you understand how tyranny works

[–]iheartrms 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Address has been sent.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

yeah don't pm me. I don't see why you'd want to escalate to a private interaction.

[–]iheartrms 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

It seems that you are not nearly as committed to your ideals as you first let on. And now that this posting has turned out to be yet another poor life choice you've doubled down on poor choices by deleting it. And on top of it all you won't even let me save you from yourself by becoming my slave. Very well. Just remember that as your life goes careening further down the pooper that you had been given a chance and failed to take it.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I removed it, but I've since reapproved and marked it thunderdome

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I havn't deleted anything. could be the mod.

[–]nerfjanmayen 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

You think people should give up their freedom and rights? Ok then, you first - off to the salt mines for the glory of god!

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yep. People are selfish, destructive and ignorant. Why should adult humans be given more freedom than child humans? They aren't that different. I think both need a parent and fairytales to make them happy and productive.

You give humans too much credit.

[–]slipstream37 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

You realize we're humans too right?

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speak for yourself you ape

[–]coprolite_hobbyist 8ポイント9ポイント  (24子コメント)

Ah, look, the douchebag philosophy explained.

Everybody be sure to point and laugh.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (23子コメント)

You sound like you prefer the Red Pill philosophy

[–]coprolite_hobbyist 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

If that wasn't coming from such an obvious idiot troll, I might be offended.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

You lack dignity

[–]coprolite_hobbyist 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gee, I'm all broken up inside from that.

Be sure to lick your hands clean when you're finished wiping your shit all over the walls.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's true, I can tell from your conduct that you're not a social person.

[–]Saucy_Jacky 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

YOU RACKA DISAPRINE

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can only imagine what you

[–]Saucy_Jacky 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't keep me in suspense, nutcase! I must know what you were trying to rant at me!

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

Lol right to the feminist talking points eh? Figures.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (14子コメント)

Have you come out of the closet yet?

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 2ポイント3ポイント  (13子コメント)

Nah I'm waiting until I can get a sex robot of Ryan Gosling.

BTW projecting much with this cliche homophobia?

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

You're obviously gay, just admit it.

you mock me for making feminist talking points then you accuse me of being homophobic simply for asking if you've come out of the closet... Lol

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yeah that's the only homophobic remark you've made.

It's astounding how little self awareness you possess.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Sure, everything referring to dicks is homophobic to people in the closet.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

So how's high school champ? Think you'll finally lose your virginity this year?

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Answer the question: are you out of the closet yet?

[–]lepton0 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think religion is good coz people are stupid, emotional and destructive and need to be ruled by a dictator not just physically but psychologically as well.

How does being ruled by a dictator solve the problem? Is the dictator one of these stupid, emotional, and destructive people? Who guards the guardian? If you are talking about a god being this dictator, how do we know this god exists? How do we know that those who claim to know what this dictator/god wants are speaking the truth? Aren't they also some of these stupid, emotional, and destructive people?

shouldn't have the freedom to keep breeding. When populations get more than necessary, giving birth should be a privilege not a right.

So, I guess you're not talking about those religions that say things like "be fruitful and multiply", and "contraceptives are an abomination". Are religions that don't advocate for putting controls on how often people can breed considered bad?

People should be fed a religion that doesn't come into conflict with scientific advancements yet gives people a sense of hope and purpose in life.

What about religions that do come in conflict with scientific achievements or encourage a sense of guilt for the things people do? Are these also bad? You seem to be advocating for something very specific, not just any general "religion". Am I right?

All in all, democracy and freedom is bad. People are too stupid to be able to make their own choices. The catch is to find a ruler that's smart and benevolent of course.

And there in lies the rub. How do you find this smart and benevolent ruler, as apposed to one of these "stupid" ones? There is a long history of monarchies and empires where men failed at picking those good rulers. Perhaps it falls in with how "stupid" they are. Maybe a democracy is a better compromise where at least the people can try to guard the guardian. It may be bad, but it is not as bad as a bad monarchy.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

How does being ruled by a dictator solve the problem? Is the dictator one of these stupid, emotional, and destructive people?

No. Not everyone is stupid and emotional. I wouldn't include Noam Chomsky in the general masses.

If you are talking about a god being this dictator, how do we know this god exists?

Just implement a national religion. It probably only works with a one world government or else opposing nations will come up with conflicting religions which cause disorder.

But I believe all humans are children. Adulthood isn't that different than childhood in the grand scheme of things. Deep down people want to be controlled and lied to in order to feel safe and secure.

What about religions that do come in conflict with scientific achievements or encourage a sense of guilt for the things people do? Are these also bad? You seem to be advocating for something very specific, not just any general "religion". Am I right?

Yeah, I think we should design a new religion that doesn't conflict with intellectualism but offers people spiritual nourishment and hope.

And there in lies the rub. How do you find this smart and benevolent ruler, as apposed to one of these "stupid" ones?

I don't know but I can tell you there are a lot of honest, intellectual people today that would make far better rulers than the ones we have in even our most advanced societies. The problem is the that the general masses are so brain dead that they can't look beyond to bullshit to elect the fitting candidates into power.

Maybe a democracy is a better compromise where at least the people can try to guard the guardian. It may be bad, but it is not as bad as a bad monarchy.

I don't know. What with Turkey, Trump and Clinton, I feel that people don't want democracy that want a dictator that shares their values (as someone else put it). "democracy" is a sham.

[–]lepton0 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

No. Not everyone is stupid and emotional. I wouldn't include Noam Chomsky in the general masses.

Got it, only philosopher kings. But, you didn't mention destructive. Should we not worry about this? You know the president of Syria right now was an educated medical doctor. And look at the mess it is in right now. Who guards the guardians?

But I believe all humans are children.

Except for people like Noam Chomsky and I'm guessing you, right? Or are both of you also children?

Deep down people want to be controlled and lied to in order to feel safe and secure.

Please do tell me what I really want. Or is that what you really want and you're projecting? Do you want to be lied to?

Yeah, I think we should design a new religion that doesn't conflict with intellectualism but offers people spiritual nourishment and hope.

How very Plato's Republic of you. But, that's not for me.

I don't know but I can tell you there are a lot of honest, intellectual people today that would make far better rulers than the ones we have in even our most advanced societies.

So you say. I think it is really hard to find these rulers and keep them being good. Even Chomsky might end up being a tyrant if given enough time. How do you know if someone like him will work out? I like the system we are using now a lot better than the monarchies and empires from the past. We are governed by representatives that have incentive to follow the will of the people through elections.

The problem is the that the general masses are so brain dead that they can't look beyond to bullshit to elect the fitting candidates into power.

And you think these brain dead individuals can set up a dictator that will be good? Or is this decision only yours? Or maybe some scholastic committee?

I don't know. What with Turkey, Trump and Clinton, I feel that people don't want democracy that want a dictator that shares their values (as someone else put it).

What part of electing a representative suggests they don't want a democracy? I don't think I am following. Are these presidential candidates opting for changing our government to something other than a democracy? Have they said we will become a monarchy after they are elected? This would be news to me.

"democracy" is a sham.

Yes, there are many problems with democracy like tyranny of the majority and mob rule. Good thing we are not a pure democracy, we are more of a representative democratic republic.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Should we not worry about this? You know the president of Syria right now was an educated medical doctor. And look at the mess it is in right now. Who guards the guardians?

That's an oversimplification

Except for people like Noam Chomsky and I'm guessing you, right? Or are both of you also children?

I think we have different definitions of children here. I'm referring to the ignorance, irrationality and self-destructive seen in children is also pervasive in adults but it manifests in different ways.

There are some smart children who act very mature for their age and could even be mistake for adults if you didn't see them. This is the same for societies intellectuals. But in general, humans as a whole are childish.

Please do tell me what I really want. Or is that what you really want and you're projecting? Do you want to be lied to?

No

How very Plato's Republic of you. But, that's not for me.

That's what you think

So you say. I think it is really hard to find these rulers and keep them being good. Even Chomsky might end up being a tyrant if given enough time. How do you know if someone like him will work out? I like the system we are using now a lot better than the monarchies and empires from the past. We are governed by representatives that have incentive to follow the will of the people through elections.

Maybe it's not possible. I never said it was possible but it's certainly better. If you could find someone who's incorruptible then it'd work.

And you think these brain dead individuals can set up a dictator that will be good?

why would we let them chose a dictator? That's silly. May aswell go back to democracy.

Or is this decision only yours?

Wouldn't be mine coz I don't know who to pick

Or maybe some scholastic committee?

Could be. Who do think would be best suited to pick a single ruler? If you had to make a choice.

What part of electing a representative suggests they don't want a democracy?

Because when they lose they want to overturn the results. See Brexit.

Are these presidential candidates opting for changing our government to something other than a democracy? Have they said we will become a monarchy after they are elected? This would be news to me.

That's a silly question, of course they havn't.

[–]lepton0 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe it's not possible. I never said it was possible but it's certainly better.

If it is not possible, then it is just impractical and cannot be better. It would be something just set in your imagination. Like many of the failed utopias people have thought up.

Who do think would be best suited to pick a single ruler? If you had to make a choice.

I don't think anyone can. Monarchy is overrated. It is too easy to end up with a tyrant even with people who seem to be good choices.

Because when they lose they want to overturn the results.

I haven't seen any talk of overturning results. Do you have a crystal ball foretelling the future?

See Brexit.

Brexit was not a matter of overturning results against the will of the people. It was based off a referendum presented to the people. And not only have the people chosen to leave the EU, but the government is following the choice the people have made.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If it is not possible, then it is just impractical and cannot be better. It would be something just set in your imagination. Like many of the failed utopias people have thought up.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I guess you can drop the discussion if you only want to argue practical scenarios.

I haven't seen any talk of overturning results. Do you have a crystal ball foretelling the future?

The republicans tried to revoke Obama's presidency making up lies about where he was born...

Brexit was not a matter of overturning results against the will of the people. It was based off a referendum presented to the people. And not only have the people chosen to leave the EU, but the government is following the choice the people have made.

...And The remain voters wanted a second referendum to overturn the brexit win.

[–]lepton0 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The republicans tried to revoke Obama's presidency making up lies about where he was born...

If he was truly a Kenyan natural born citizen of Kenya, then he would be ineligible to be president of the US. This is a rule that has been there since the creation of the US. Should we break the will of the people who put that rule into place? As for lies, I don't think everyone involved thought it was a lie. Most people rely on others to figure out what is the truth. It could have been partisanship that encouraged them to push the matter, it could have been plain racism, it could have been they were convinced by people they trusted that it was an issue. I don't know. If you thought Obama was likely breaking the rules, would you want the matter investigated and rectified? And what if he did?

And for that matter, they did not succeed. There was no overrule of the choice of the people.

We are not a pure democracy, and I think it is better that way, because as you have said, people are stupid. Our forefathers have already thought about that issue and came up with the type of government we have now. It is designed to overrule the people because pure democracy is bad. We are a nation of laws, this is why states are forced to desegregate their institutions despite the will of their people, this is why they are forced to marry gay people despite the will of their people. Because it is the law. Law that can be changed by the will of the people if it becomes too burdensome, but not so easily changed that mob rule takes over.

...And The remain voters wanted a second referendum to overturn the brexit win.

But the remain voters were in the minority. The oldest measure of the will of the people is majority rules. Should those clamoring for a revote overrule the already established majority opinion?

[–]sj070707 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course, in your mind, you're not one of these people.

[–]JoJoRumbles 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's the worst trolling I've ever seen.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

How original

[–]thechr0nic 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

original or not.. his analysis is spot on.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your opinion is highly valued.

[–]thechr0nic 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

coming from a troll.. im not sure if I care.

[–]D_Anderson 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most religions I know of encourage breeding and conflict with science to various degrees. So for your purposes, most religions are bad. Is there a specific religion that you endorse?

[–]yanonanite 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like someone is in desperate need of a hug.

[–]yugotprblms 7ポイント8ポイント  (39子コメント)

Come on man. This is shitty trolling. Go learn from cihera or someone.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (38子コメント)

How do i respond to being called a troll? I don't understand your mentality. Is the topic too complex for you to grasp therefore you dismiss it as trolling? Do you want me to speak at a 4th grade level or something?

[–]yugotprblms 7ポイント8ポイント  (37子コメント)

Do you want me to speak at a 4th grade level or something?

You already started off on that foot.

I can't tell if you are genuine or not, because you legitimately sound like someone just trying to start an argument, not a debate, by spouting inflammatory bullshit rhetoric. You come off sounding like a inbred hillbilly from the deep south, somehow mixed with an fundamentalist Muslim.

[–]Capercaillie -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm from the Deep South, so, y'know, go fuck yourself.

[–]yugotprblms -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

At least I won't be fucking my sister

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Look, I'm glad you animals have turned on each other but I must say the comebacks here are so lame they make me cringe.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a brave card to play squire

[–]yugotprblms -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks man!

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

How'd you come up with the sister fuck joke?

[–]Capercaillie -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, but everyone will be fucking your mom.

[–]yugotprblms 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just be gentle, she's a nice woman.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (27子コメント)

You come off sounding like a inbred hillbilly from the deep south, somehow mixed with an fundamentalist Muslim.

Who are you trying to impress? This entire sub has been like a pissing contest of who can come up with the wittiest insults.

[–]yugotprblms 4ポイント5ポイント  (26子コメント)

Who are you trying to impress?

I'm hoping an extremely hot chick reads this sub an is turned on by the things I say.

This entire sub has been like a pissing contest of who can come up with the wittiest insults.

Or you just earn that kind of response when you the kind of dumb shit you do.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (25子コメント)

I'm hoping an extremely hot chick reads this sub an is turned on by the things I say.

Overcompensating to save face now.

Or you just earn that kind of response when you the kind of dumb shit you do.

Typical ad hom common in this sub

[–]DNK_Infinity 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

Typical ad hom common in this sub

The lack of self-awareness is cringeworthy.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (13子コメント)

117 poo throwing comments. Is this representative of the atheist community? You guys need jobs.

[–]DNK_Infinity 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

We give as good as we get. If you want effort on our part, show us an argument of actual substance.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (11子コメント)

Look, that may be the case, but it says a lot about a group who goes out of their way to trade insults with someone they believe is merely here to antagonize.

I find it fascinating how /r/atheism will continue this shit show for so long yet the religious subs move on and don't respond.

Why do you think that is?

[–]yugotprblms 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you say so

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

You should find out what ad hominem means

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ad Hom: Referring to the personality of the opponent in replace of arguments.

Hmm, let's see... He refers to "dumb shit i do". Yep, that's a personal attack.

You need a dictionary there, butt pirate?

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

You might want to actually look up the definition champ.

Ad hominem requires them to dismiss your argument with a personal attack. Ie: You're stupid, so you're wrong.

Just calling you stupid and ignoring your argument isn't ad hominem.

L2fallacy kiddo

[–]perceiver 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are talking about behaviorism, not religion. Look up Skinner's Walden 2 and Beyond Freedom and Dignity.

[–]DarkangelUK 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why are you doing shitty low level trolling? You posted right here that you're an atheist

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shame on you. When did I say otherwise?

[–]hett 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

This is low effort trolling.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

The fact they you and so many others all came to say that exact same thing is evidence of your unfulfilling lives.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

How do you figure?

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

people with important things to do don't waste time insulting trolls (as I'm supposedly am).

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can you substantiate that claim?

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

To you... Probably not

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Figured

[–]hett 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't have important things to do. I just spent 37 days in the hospital and am currently recuperating. Also, this is low effort trolling.

[–]Arizona-Willie 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

Religion < is > good ---- for a laugh

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (16子コメント)

Hey, somebody should do that. Go on stage and make fun of religion. Reckon people will laugh?

[–]the_sleep_of_reason 4ポイント5ポイント  (13子コメント)

You bet they will!

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

I've seen it all. Do some Jim Jefferies next.

[–]the_sleep_of_reason 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

I am more of an Eddie Izzard man.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

Not too bright are ya

[–]the_sleep_of_reason 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Do you have any actual points or are you just a big fan of ad hom?

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's very hypocritical of your considering %90 of the comments have been me being called a troll.

But anyway, no body has made any counter arguments so I don't know what you expect from me. How do I counter "Nice trolling" and "I couldn't get past coz".

I'm sorry, your responses are just too advanced for me.

[–]the_sleep_of_reason 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Of course they are calling you a troll because you have provided no arguments.

You made a bunch of "I think..." claims without any kind of support, claims that are in themselves so asinine, that they barely merit a response. Also

I'm concerned with truth. Therefore I will never support a bullshit ideology

This hits the nail on the head. Most people here are interested in truth, not some made up ideology that serves the same purpose as other, less damaging ideologies.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Of course they are calling you a troll because you have provided no arguments.

Liar. I made plenty of arguments. See my op.

claims that are in themselves so asinine, that they barely merit a response. Also

This is ad hom. Instead of offering counter opinions you label mine stupid and not worthy of response. This is me bringing to the surface your attempt at making a personal attack without the courage to overtly do so which is hypocritical and cowardly.

This hits the nail on the head. Most people here are interested in truth, not some made up ideology that serves the same purpose as other, less damaging ideologies.

This is the truth, it's just not one that supports your prejudices.

The truth is that the human species cannot continue to function like we are. Someone needs to take charge of humanity.

[–]thechr0nic 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

thats because, all evidence thusfar points to you being a troll.

your OP, your responses, your general attitude.

it appears your label has been well earned to this point.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This entire thread has just been trading insults and name calling. You guys have serious intellectual problems. Yet, I'm sure you all think you are so much smarter than all those dumb religious nuts.

I'm not joking when I say this... I get more stimulating discussion in /r/Islam and /r/christianity. No shit, they have an unwritten code of conduct where they either: A) Address your points or B) Don't respond and let your post go stale.

But here, every single person calls you a troll and tries to make fun of you. Like you guys have seriously nothing better to do than poke shit at each other all day. Lol, this sub is a zoo.

[–]Arizona-Willie 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bill Maher has made a fortune doing it.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah... I didn't know that. Tell me more...

[–]DNK_Infinity 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Paging /u/Captaincastle...

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuum!

[–]DNK_Infinity 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

How deeply original.

All in all, 2/10. Not in a long time have we seen such shit-tier trolling.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

Really, you've heard that before? Maybe you should stop squealing like a little bitch then.

[–]DNK_Infinity 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

How quickly you abandoned the pretense. Discouraged by our unwillingness to entertain your bullshit, perhaps?

New rating. 1/10.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Any other mods you wanna squeal to?

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's basically only me champ

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

you must be very proud

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know it

[–]Capercaillie 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Obvious troll is obvious.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

ad hom

[–]Capercaillie 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Where'd you learn those words? Didn't know they taught that stuff in juvie.

[–]beenpimpin[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't you have anything better to do with your time?

[–]the_sleep_of_reason 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

For future generations.

OP is /u/beenpimpin

I think religion is good coz people are stupid, emotional and destructive and need to be ruled by a dictator not just physically but psychologically as well. People shouldn't have the freedom to keep breeding. When populations get more than necessary, giving birth should be a privilege not a right.

People should be fed a religion that doesn't come into conflict with scientific advancements yet gives people a sense of hope and purpose in life.

All in all, democracy and freedom is bad. People are too stupid to be able to make their own choices. The catch is to find a ruler that's smart and benevolent of course.

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I like the way you go the extra mile to avoid discussion by derailing the conversation into underhanded ad hom.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

In what way is this ad hominem?

[–]beenpimpin[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

underhanded ad hom. It's really just him being condescending.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In what way is quoting your post condescending?

[–]Zamboniman 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think religion is good coz people are stupid, emotional and destructive and need to be ruled by a dictator not just physically but psychologically as well. People shouldn't have the freedom to keep breeding. When populations get more than necessary, giving birth should be a privilege not a right. People should be fed a religion that doesn't come into conflict with scientific advancements yet gives people a sense of hope and purpose in life. All in all, democracy and freedom is bad. People are too stupid to be able to make their own choices. The catch is to find a ruler that's smart and benevolent of course.

...says someone using the internet to communicate these thoughts and not noticing the irony (or perhaps seriously uneducated about the policies and systems necessary to create this system and supporting technology).

[–]beenpimpin[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't be a little bitch. If you got something to say then say it. Your sass is time wasting.

[–]daddyhominum 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have you been reading Plato?

[–]didovic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can assure you the answer is: no.

[–]Orphanlast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think religion is good coz people are stupid, emotional and destructive and need to be ruled by a dictator not just physically but psychologically as well.

You literally sound like Hitler. And I'm not saying that off on a whim. You sound just like Hitler in "Mein Kampf"

People shouldn't have the freedom to keep breeding. When populations get more than necessary, giving birth should be a privilege not a right.

Necessity is the mother of invention. And what's necessary to a dictator isn't what's "necessary" to the majority... even those that are educated in such matters.

Ultimately what you described is despotism.

Let's suppose we developed artificial intelligence, which I don't see as too ridiculous, because technology develops exponentially. And right now, we're witnessing that exponential growth at it's starting to gain momentum.

Now lets suppose the ruling elite are able to purchase robots or whatever. Well, most of what mankind does to stimulate an economy is achieved effortlessly with just a few thousand people. Necessity would dictate that it's not necessary for more than the ruling elite, wealthy, and innovators to exist... then eventually the innovators would be weeded out once the AI would be able to innovate better than they can.

People should be fed a religion that doesn't come into conflict with scientific advancements yet gives people a sense of hope and purpose in life.

That is totally fucked up.

All in all, democracy and freedom is bad.

Explain.

People are too stupid to be able to make their own choices.

Like the Dictator wouldn't be? He's one of these "stupid people".

The catch is to find a ruler that's smart and benevolent of course.

Which... you won't find. Even the most benevolent people have beliefs about how the world should be that are so amazingly horrible that it would make you tremble.

You put them in power and you'll pat yourself on the back and think "yup... I did well." And a few months in you'd be in shock and disbelief at the horrors you brought into the world by choosing that person.

That "good person" wouldn't necessarily see what he was doing as bad. You could list off all the horrors of it all and he'd just say: "that's all according to plan." And then he'd explain all the reasons why it's actually a good thing. And NOTHING he would say would convince you because morality is subjective. What's necessary is subjective. What's pleasant is subjective.

[–]BogMod 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

All in all, democracy and freedom is bad. People are too stupid to be able to make their own choices. The catch is to find a ruler that's smart and benevolent of course.

So people are too stupid to make their own choices. I assume they are likely too stupid to even find the smart and benevolent ruler for that matter. Of course if they are just that stupid they are going to probably just fight it anyways even when its for their own good. You raise an interesting point how will we get out this stupidity paradox? Well first thing we should do I think, and I am sure you can agree, is that we don't trust the idiots out there and their arguments.

And now we have discarded your position. Hurrah!

[–]beenpimpin[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

your comment was a waste of time.

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Super ironic

[–]maskedman3d 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are like 90% right, humans are garbage. We should strive to be Vulcans instead. No emotion, just logic. Mating once every 7 years and living in peace. Plus pointed ears are sexy as fuck.

[–]OhhBenjamin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a debate forum, you've stated your idea but do you have any backing evidence to mention? The first thing which jumps to mind is that the democratic countries are the lions share of the wealthiest and most successful countries and those countries also offer their citizens the most personal freedom.

[–]terransdestroy 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

how old are you?

[–]CaptaincastleAsk about my cult|mod 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm saying 17

[–]Leeroybijenkins 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

At max high school age. I used to think this way too then I actually understood the world.

[–]Dead_Glove 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[–]cerb007 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree atheism is a higher level of mental evolution, that apparantly most people aren't ready for. So maybe it would be better a religion is created that doesn't interfere with scientific progress and other peoples lives. Birth control will be paramount. Having more than 2 Children should be consired immoral. You see in the middle east and africa what unlimited procreation leads to: poverty, war and environmental collapse...

[–]theKalash 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The catch is to find a ruler that's smart and benevolent of course.

I would be up for it.

[–]keithwaits 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lots of claims OP, care to back any of them up?

Wouldn't educating be a better solution to the things you mention?

[–]Mathemagics15 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think religion is good coz people are stupid, emotional and destructive and need to be ruled by a dictator not just physically but psychologically as well.

Head off to Turkey then. Bye!