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Milo Suspended Permanently by Twitter Minutes (breitbart.com)

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[–]stonecoldstrummer 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

So it's okay with postings of death threats to police and ridicule of anyone that's not left leaning?

Man, this organization is a joke. If you're gonna do stuff like that, at least be consistent.

[–]BenReilly616 31ポイント32ポイント  (19子コメント)

Twitter isn't a public right. It's a company who decided to ban someone, unfairly for sure. They've definitely made strides against free speech but that's their business

[–]jgardnerReagan Conservative 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

By limiting speech, they become responsible for what does get through.

[–]BenReilly616 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

I guess I'd have to agree with you there. Once you start cherry picking you begin choosing sides. I mean ISIS has twitter accounts.

[–]maxbrooksmacbook 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I heard they don't suspend radical Islamist accounts for enforcement tracking purposes (like if the FBI wants to connect people together after a terrorist plot)

[–]r_d_olivaw 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but Twitter has a policy of banning them as soon as they find them, and have put a lot of resources into blocking ISIS accounts.

[–]ajtexasranger 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So does Twitter support ISIS more than Milo?

[–]Captain_Yid 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

True, but I'm surprised that these platforms (thinking also of Facebook) don't support freedom of speech since their business models depend on people voicing their minds.

[–]BenReilly616 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

They support freedom of speech as long as it isn't conservative.

[–]jayhawks8595 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

its a private company, they don't have to enforce constitutional rights.

[–]HeSheWe_Wumbo 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Unfairly?

He incited "his followers to send a torrent of racist abuse."

There's free speech and then there's intentional hate speech. You're free to disagree with people and exercise your right to speech... but you can't just go off spout hate speech that serves no purpose and expect to not face consequences, when you're on a private platform.

Now you can use "colorful" language when forming a dissenting opinion, but he wasn't doing that - he was inciting hate speech for the sake of hate speech.

[–]BenReilly616 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've heard that this account of him incinting his followers to send any kind of abuse is a flat out lie, and that the woman in question actually did this to someone else.

[–]gizayabasuTrump Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Milo's attacks aren't in the right, but I think he's trying to push forward a point that the left doing the same hateful speech won't get them banned, but him doing hate speech as a right winged figure would get him banned. Not justifying his comments, but I understand where he's coming from.

[–]rudelyinterrupts -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

The problem is hypocrisy. ISIS sympathizers still post freely on twitter yet they ban someone because he made a black woman angry.

[–]AceOfSpades70Libertarian Conservative 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

ISIS sympathizers still post freely on twitter yet they ban someone because he made a black woman angry.

Because law enforcement wants them to... They are literally helping law enforcement with that.

[–]SirGallantLionheart [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

They also deleted like a quarter million isis accounts after working with authorities.

[–]BenReilly616 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

the worst thing you can do in this life is offend a sassy black woman

[–]ColonelCluster [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Meanwhile they don't bother to ban ISIS accounts because it's "too hard".

That's how fucked up the left has become. Hurting feelz is now a more serious offense than murdering hundreds of people...

[–]ayyy__1mao [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Eliminating ISIS-affiliated accounts that aren't publicly associated with specific people is like whack-a-mole. It's not going to make any difference in the long-run.

Banning a specific person who publicly identifies themself is much easier. Theoretically, Yiannopoulous could do what ISIS does and anonymously make another account. Or 100 accounts.

[–]fuck_sal_hardPool Boy 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Twitter is filled with the dregs of society but such people are allowed to post anything they want without facing any suspensions. Seems a bit hypocritical.

What did Milo specifically say to earn a permanent suspension?

[–]puddboy 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Their CEO is a pandering leftist douchebag. Their stock is down 50% since this time last year. They are free to suspend whoever they like, and they can watch their company plummet in the process.

[–]ColonelCluster [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In all fairness, their stock losing value has more to do with them having no business plan than their idiotic censorship policies.

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They are free to suspend whoever they like, and they can watch their company plummet in the process.

Ain't the free market grand? Seriously, that's exactly how it should be. Any company can do this, and users can either accept it or reject it by staying or taking their business elsewhere. I love that it's happening so blatantly with Twitter. Fuck them.

[–]AllahWillingRoman Catholic 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

Why is this here? Milo is not a conservative, he said so himself.

[–]wronkus 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whatever he calls himself, he's a pro-gun nationalist that supports religious rights. I don't agree with him in a lot of ways, but when you look at the views of Republicans over and under the age of 50 this is one direction where the Republican party is headed.

[–]ColonelCluster [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you're going to get technical, based on their flair, most of the mods of this sub don't identify as conservative either. It's best not to read too much in to Reddit sub names. Otherwise you might mistakenly think that /r/funny or /r/politicalhumor was funny.

[–]MrRezister [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I agree that Milo is not a Conservative. I think he's referred to himself as a "Cultural Libertarian" which I think is fairly accurate. But I believe that it is consistent with Conservative values to stand up for Freedom of Speech, even (or rather 'especially') if we find that speech distasteful.

But of course Twitter remains a Private Entity which can choose to enforce their own rules (or not enforce them, as the case may be) as they see fit, and they are unlikely to change their ways if we continue to patronize them when they do things we don't like.

[–]DJWhamoSingle Payer Proponent [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As you say, it is a private organization, so when we speak about freedom of speech, the criticism isn't a constitutional argument, but I do think it is important to point out private organizations who exhibit a tendency to censor those on the right more than those on the left.

[–]DJWhamoSingle Payer Proponent 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

The new right and traditional conservatism have common bonds, as do libertarianism and conservatism. There are those in the Men's Rights Movement who probably don't think of themselves as conservative either, but their philosophy still places them on the right side of the aisle in that regard. In that sense, I think it's ok to post.

[–]gizayabasuTrump Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Much like the left has to take ownership of the regressive left, the alt-right movement naturally falls closer to conservatism. The difference is that the radical lefts tend not to be persecuted by media as the alt-right is.

[–]TheXarath 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

No he hasn't. He describes himself as a conservative.

[–]AllahWillingRoman Catholic [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's a libertarian using the conservative right for fame and you know it.

[–]SirGallantLionheart [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

People went online and forgot what these terms actually mean. Look at any reddit discussion.

Conservative now entails not liking the new Ghostbusters movie and liberal now means crying about how people don't like it.

Milo was just an idiot who's audience was mainly people who took game reviews seriously and he spent his time provoking college students by saying mean things to feminists students. He doesn't know a damn thing about economics, foreign policy, or domestic institutions.

[–]AllahWillingRoman Catholic [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm glad I'm not the only one here who thinks the same

[–]vivere_aut_mori 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, don't really care that a single-issue pronto-fascist got banned. Meh.

[–]Cardiff_Electric 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Jihadists and domestic terrorists using Twitter: fine.

Conservatives using Twitter: we will not be your platform for hate!

Umm, okie dokie.

[–]zachHu1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought he posted a fake image of someone making highly racist tweets, then tried to claim they said it. That's harassment. Obviously ISIS needs to be banned, but I think Milo isn't innocent either.

[–]SirGallantLionheart [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Twitter also regularly bans isis twitrers and they work with authorities on how to handle it (if the authorities want to use it to establish more info). Though facts aren't usually one of the talking points of people who care about Milo.

[–]actofgod22 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could you imagine the shit storm if all the means of communication were owned by conservatives, and they routinely silenced liberals?

Well, I guess we wouldn't know about it but you know what I mean

[–]Nosrac88 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is incredibly stupid of Twitter. They need to go bankrupt.

[–]ColonelCluster [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They need to go bankrupt.

They're one step ahead of you.

[–]BruceCampbell123 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

However they're completely okay with ISIS having their own page on Twitter.

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Haven't they suspended like a quarter million ISIS accounts? The ones that are still up are the ones law enforcement tell them to leave up. So they can track people.