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Shouldn't we be wary of Raiola? (self.reddevils)

throughballideaDarmian が 投稿

I'm happy we're getting Pogba and Mikhitaryan, but at least in the case of Pogba, I guarantee he'll start throwing chairs around the United boardroom and force us to sell him to Barcelona/Real Madrid in a few years.

It's still a worthwhile transfer, I just think it's worth remembering that this guy loves to move his big clients around. Just look at Ibrahimovic's career path. He'll do it to us I'm sure.

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[–]daprodigyx19Martial 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely we should

But its a risk Im willing to take

[–]joelski11Rooney 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I actually agree , these super agents are not good for football but unfortunately they aren't going anywhere

[–]BetweenTheCheeksAnderson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup you have to deal with them If you want the best players

[–]exxpiredDe Gea 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably stay for 3 maybe 4 years depending on how many times we win the league and UCL...then move to barca/madrid, we get back a huge chuck of what we paid, spend it on the next new mid

[–]Magnehtic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

A couple seasons under Mourinho, Pogba can win some silverware and develop further and then go to Madrid for a similar fee and a few new trophies to add to the cabinet.

[–]serious_dan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd say it's a genuine worry. It'd be the ultimate stitch up if we could convince all 3 to ditch him after they've signed but can't see it happening. Would be funny though.

[–]TudoorsScholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of clubs have limits on the amount of players from certain agents. It's not good for one person to hold a lot of invisible power in a dressing room.

If he gets pissed off he can really push all of his players out.

[–]soopremebeing 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've read Zlatans book and in each case he has pressed Raiola to get him a move, not the way you've stated.

Ajax-Juventus - Ajax had him on a poor contract, Juventus are a huge club so was a reasonable career move

Juventus-Inter - Juve had just been relegated due to the scandal. Zlatan wanted to play his peak years in a top league

Inter-Barca - It was Zlatans dream to play for Barca which Raiola made possible for him

Barca-AC Milan - Pep didn't want Zlatan hence why he was sold at a loss of nearly 50m euros after good season

AC-PSG - Not sure what happened there as the book concluded before then

PSG-United - Contact was up, wanted to play in the EPL, wanted to play for Mourinho, wanted to play for us as we could afford his wages with ease.

[–]cookie1254Rafael 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

If we pay him enough money he'll shut up. He's not going to force a move for one of his clients if he gets a gigantic agent fee for them signing a new contract.

[–]TudoorsScholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel like you highlighted the problem.

He's not going to force his players out if we appease him with money.

[–]selotipkusutMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, but if he gives us some important trophies in 3-4 years then I guess he can leave. What is important now is to get the fear factor and the champion mentality back. Heck, if he leaves us in 3-4 years and he's better, then that'll cost em more than 120m.

[–]MovementJR 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course. But he's loving doing business with us, all of those delicious agent fees. The thing is, we're just going to keep getting richer, and richer, and the PL is just going to keep growing, and growing. He's going to want to stay on good terms with us if he wants to do business in the future and pick up some more free money. It's absolutely going to get to the point where no-one is going to be able to compete with United in terms of financial clout barring a complete financial disaster.

So in short, yes, we need to be wary of him to an extent given his history. But given the level of business we've conducted with him this window he's more of an ally than an enemy at this point.

[–]IwanJones10Ander Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll have him for like 3-4 years and then sell him for 150-200m when the market gets even more insane

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The way I see it Ibra will be gone in a year or two, Miki will be starting to decline in 3 years or so IMO so we'll get the best years out of him, Pogba is the only player we have much chance of losing to him and honestly if we paid 100 Million for him, got 3-4 years of him and then sold him for 70-80 provided we won a few things I'd be perfectly happy with that.

[–]generalquarterDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We should. That's why we keep our friends close and our enemies closer.

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Copy and pasting what I said in another thread about this:

The only Raiola client where this concerns me is Pogba, but it should be up to us to make sure that if it does happen, then we should be getting a massive fee out of that transfer, like Juventus are doing now. All of this assuming Pogba does move to United in the first place, which is still a huge if.

Assuming Mkhitaryan stays 3 seasons with us like he did with Shakhtar and Dortmund, he'll be 30 by then. I'm not sure he'll have a lot of big teams after him at that age, unless he's been brilliant in those 3 years.

Ibrahimovic won't be a problem at all in this situation.

[–]saintratchetMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No matter what happens with the Pogba transfer, I wouldn't trust Raiola at all. The man seems like a total cunt, it's just working out in our favour for a change.