Post Match Thread: Wigan Athletic 0-2 Manchester united

RaynerJ · 2時間前

Are these James Rodriguez rumours valid at all?

Geezesa · 11時間前

The team looks completely different than last season's. Much more exciting to watch.

MartialScoreRightCor · 15時間前

Was our formation shape more narrow? It seemd to be what I saw. And also the caps with defensive, midfield and attacking lines were closer than in LvG systems. Defensive seemed to look very strong in middle of the pitch when wigan was at our final third. And defensive line was very high also, wigan is weaker so there was no reason to stay back. Attacking, going more foward than pass back --> More score opportunies come. At least we could won thath game 0-4. Those were firts things what I was thinking when watched the game. Have to wait and see stronger opponents to see more.

RaynerJ · 15時間前

The image of Jose in a United training top on the touchline made me smile. A lot. Seemed much more passionate than Turkey Neck sitting down and making notes.

RaynerJ · 15時間前

What's everyone's take on Rooney? I think Mkhitaryan should be our first choice 10 and Rooney needs to accept more of a squad playing role. We can't wait 10 or 12 games to see Wayne make a contribution any more. I've run out of patience.

reddit_no_likey · 21時間前

Everyone played great. Solid defensive performance. I was glad to see that Wigan parked the bus for most of the game. It made for a good practice session for the lads to try and work out a solution to that problem. No doubt some teams in the Prems is going to try that as well.

All the youngsters and new signings should be proud. I agree with OP that Wilson & Memphis were probably the weakest links, but they also had their moments. Still, it's the first preseason game, they'll get more chances.

All in all, good to see United on the pitch again.

bitterjealousangry · 1日前

Really disapointed in Memphis.

Is Schniderlin on vacation? I expected to see him today.

So good to see United play again.

PotatoMussab · 1日前

I'm totally convinced that Memphis is no longer good enough for Man Utd. 0 improvement since last season.

IVIanUnited · 1日前

i think if mkhitaryan is going to start playing in the no. 10 role we need to buy a right wing, why not mahrez , why arent we going for him??????

TheCollectorX · 1日前

One of my highlights of the game is seeing our manager on the touchline. He was on the touchline longer today than Van Gaal was in 2 seasons.

selotipkusut · 1日前

Fuck Nick Powell. Glad he's no longer a red.

RaynerJ · 1日前

I know it's early days but it looks like Mkhitaryan is legit.

mufasamadeofclouds · 1日前

Does anybody have a video of Shaw's first touch of the ball? I would love to hear the crowd react!!

muu411 · 1日前

We held Will Grigg from scoring. Might as well give us the PL trophy now

ongcs · 1日前

Is there anywhere that I can download the match to watch? Bit Torrent?

generalquarter · 1日前

Powell was abit of a cunt.. Seemed like he went in overly hard on tackles

TyperSniper · 1日前

How did Shaw look? Couldn't watch.

DelTrotter · 1日前

Anyone think Rojo's a gonner? Darmian plays both sides, Smalling comes in. We got the new guy Bailly, Blind, Jones and the youngsters Tuanzebe and TFM. Not sure where we need Rojo.

scotty1987 · 1日前

Completely missed this today as I was on the phone to the bank for nearly 2 hours.

Glad to see we looked good though.

super_nomad · 1日前

Didn't watch, but how did Memphis do?

blamethedrama · 1日前

Nick Powell looked like he had grudges to settle with all his ex team mates

goto_man · 1日前

Our starting lineup come the start of the season would be like this if we could get Pogba.

DDG

Darmian-Bailly-Smalling-Luke Shaw

Herrera-Pogba

Lingard- Miki-Martial

  Ibra

tocitus · 1日前

Goalkeeper

Pereira and Johnstone had almost nothing to do.

Right Back

At right back Fosu-Mensah was fine at bombing forwards but didn't really get anything in the box. His short passing wasn't great but a few times he clipped a ball in behind the back of the defence for Wilson to run on to. Defensively he didn't have a huge amount to do I thought. Would be surprised if he remains a RB for the season though.

The alternative RB, Valencia, again had nothing to do defensively. He got forward a lot more than Fosu-Mensah did and was always willing to create the overlap. Didn't seem to have the options to cross into though and hesitated a bit.

Left Back

Luke fucking Shaw is back and that is LB nailed down for the season. Obviously his touch and passing is still a little rusty but it was beautiful to see that little explosion of pace bombing down the left wing again.

Blind moved to LB for a while after half-time and looked solid. Nothing to do defensively but he connected defence and midfield well enough.

Blackett replaced him for a while and... well I've never been that impressed by him in his time here but this game didn't have much time left for him to do anything.

Centre Backs

Bailly and Blind were first half centre backs. Bailly was comfortable on the ball and mopped up everything easily enough. Had some tricks in his game and played it around nicely. Decent start but he'll get better tests defensively.

Blind seemed solid again but I don't see him being a first team CB under Mourinho. I liked him today though - made a decent block in the first half and very quick into the challenge to win the ball back through-out the match. As always, comfortable on the ball.

Jones came on for a bit too with his lovely new hair. Classic Jones - very physical and hopefully he can stay fit this season and have a good run of games.

Tuanzebe came on for the last ten and didn't have much to do except for abuse Powell a bit and then ignore his follow through challenge.

Central Midfield

Herrera was impressive today. Put himself about with great energy and won the ball back a lot. Decent enough passing and looked to start linking up with players like Januzaj, Mkhi etc.

Carrick was his usual calm self. Didn't see him misplace a pass and he intercepted quite often when Wigan tried to play their way out the back.

Pereira came on in midfield and had a decent game. Scored a goal with a great finish and, generally, looked comfortable especially with a delicious pass over the top to ____Valencia? Young? Again though, he'll have better tests as the Wigan midfield looked the opposite of a high pressure line.

Varela played in central midfield too and looked fine. Actually made some really good runs into the box and Mata nearly found him once

Right Wing

Lingard seemed his usual self. Made some great runs, good one-twos with Mkhi too and had a chance well blocked. But his dribbling needs work as too often his touch is just off but is early days yet in pre-season

Young - I'll count Young as RW because he played there a lot. Willing runner (and pulled off some incredible control on the LW) but his end product was a little hesitant today like Valencia. Just seemed to wait a little too long or look for the extra pass.

Left Wing

Memphis wasn't brilliant. Should have scored after Mkhi put it on a plate for him and seemed to lose the ball or seem to get telegraphed a lot. However, was one good moment where he turned his man in the centre circle and drove into the Wigan half before just missing the pass that would have sent Mkhi free

Januzaj also came on and switched with Young through-out the second half. Looked better than last season and had some comfortable passing and moving but Januzaj always seems to perform against lower level opposition (U-21s, Championship) so will be interesting to see how he progresses. Only 21 still so high hopes really.

Number 10

Mkhi was delightful to watch. Quick, skillful and equally comfortable on either foot, everything went through him. He created chances for Lingard and Memphis and the only downer is the chance he skied. If he plays like this more often then he'll be a great success but we have to remember it is a preseason against Wigan.

Mata came on and seemed decent tbh. Good passing, seemed quicker than last year and more willing to try balls that might not come off (quick through balls for example). Will be interesting to see what happens with him.

Striker

Wilson looked poor. Just completely out of the game and never looked like doing anything.

Keane got a goal from Mata's pass (after Jusski fucked up his clearance) and looked ok. Was better than Wilson at holding it up but can't see either of them getting in ahead of Ibra or Rashford this season.

Overall was a decent enough performance even if little was created. Confidence building pre-season game with many more positives than negatives.

Lethria · 1日前

Honestly...Blind pretty good today. That Mkhi-guy looks good.

mufc86 · 1日前

GK Johnstone (Sub 82') - 6 - Made a good clearing punch early, had little else to do throughout the game, but looked a little nervy on the ball.

RB Fosu-Mensah (Sub 45') - 6 - Looked like his beastly self defensively, but made very little attacking contribution. Did not get forward enough, and did not display enough quality on the few occasions he did.

CB Bailly (Sub 82') - 7 - Some slightly loose looking sideward passes to start, but really grew in confidence, read the game well, and showed some good quality.

CB/LB Blind (Sub 74') - 7 - Tidy, assured performance displaying great reading of the game at centre back first half and left back second half.

LB Shaw (Sub 45') - 7 - We missed this man last season. Positioned himself smartly at both ends. Nice movement and offered a good option wide left.

CM Carrick (Sub 45') - 6 - Usual unspectacular Carrick performance. Didn't have much to do really.

CM Herrera (Sub 74') - 7 - Made some nice interceptions and linked nicely with the attack all game.

RW Lingard (Sub 45') - 6 - Hardly in the game similar to our other widemen. A few nice touches but wasn't a great threat.

AM Mkhitaryan (Sub 45') - 9 - By far the best player in the stadium. Would have got a 10 had he not skied a tough chance. Great touch, movement, passing, dribbling. Looks a bargain frankly.

LW Memphis (Sub 45') - 5 - Pretty poor really. Most disappointing player. Missed a decent chance (though he did receive a slight push), and didn't really drive at anybody. Looks short of confidence and this performance will not help.

ST Wilson (Sub 45') - 6 - Hardly in the game, and didn't offer much against a deep set defence.

CB Jones (On 45') - 6 - Tidy, under little pressure.

RB Valencia (On 45') - 7 - Made more runs in his first 10 minutes than Fosu-Mensah did in 45.

CM A Pereira (On 45', Goal 58') - 8 - Lovely strike for the second goal, and nice passing display in a deeper role than usual.

AM Mata (On 45') - 7 - Nice movement, and good work rate to press a mistake from Jaaskelainen. Generally unselfish display.

RW Januzaj (On 45') - 6 - Another wide player who was hardly in the game. Did nothing wrong but had little impact.

LW Young (On 45') - 6 - Nice movement and energy but lacking a bit of quality at times. Best of the wingers, just.

ST Keane (On 45', Goal 48') - 6 - Scored an absolute tap-in but otherwise was hardly in the game much like Wilson first half.

LB Blackett (On 74') - 6 - Looked like a centre back playing at left back. Had little to do as the game wound down.

CM Varela (On 74') - 7 - New role for Varela, or just squeezing him into the side? Surprisingly played alongside Pereira in centre mid, and displayed some nice composure and passing.

GK J Pereira (On 82') - N/A - Recieved and passed the ball about 3 times.

CB Tuanzebe (On 82') - N/A - Did a pretty good Bailly impression.

Referee - 3 - Yes it's a friendly, but you are allowed to book players who've hacked opponents 4 or 5 times. Also you're supposed to give penalties for pushes in the penalty area.

UnitedRoad18 · 1日前

I can really see Lingard thriving under Mourinho. The tactical set up seems to be getting a very small space overloaded with attacking players. He likes his no9 to move where the ball is. You have the no9, no10, CM, winger, and then the fullback into a position marked by 1 CB, 1 RB, 1/2 CMs. That means you have a 5 v 3/4 in this little area....but there is condensed space. Lingard is incredible at finding little pockets of space, which I think will be extremely valuable. I can see him really featuring a lot the next year.

xRoni7x · 1日前

I missed the game. Has anyone got footage of Nick Powell apparently being a dick?

Dawnriderdevil · 1日前

Mourinho seemed very impressed with Pereira.

HankMoodyy · 1日前

Jose said that Miki is the best player between the ages of 27-28

DDduncan21 · 1日前

Admittedly missed the first half but from the second half wouldn't take too much from this.

This was probably less intense than a Mourinho training session!

I'm pretty sure most of us could have been subbed in for Keane (or Bailly, for that matter), without a major difference in outcome!

Really liked Valencia's running and he was a constant threat. Interesting to see varela used in mf. Young looked pretty decent.

Glad that Mhiki, et al looked good though.

DANNYWELBECK12345 · 1日前

We'll win the league this season, just got a phone call from Raven.

UnitedRoad18 · 1日前

Still think Bailly is a bit raw. Did well, though, and can see him developing into a really decent (if not better than that) CB.
Wilson just isn't good enough. Not sure how much more data we need.
Memphis better improve quick, because another bit of that shite and he's off.
Really enjoyed the speed of passing. Felt like tactically Mourinho was trying to find areas to overload (hence why the no10 role is always great in his systems - just roams around) and then move the ball quickly.

kawshik1234 · 1日前

It is so unreal to see Mourinho as our manager,if we can sign Pogba and a right winger,we will win the league

testbug0 · 1日前

Nothing much to say about the match since it was essentially a training session, but the fuck was Nick Powell on about?

I understand having a point to prove, but he had some cuntish tackles.

isaac1494 · 1日前

More attacking intent in the second half, which also saw some interesting substitutions into midfield. Not a bad first run-out for the season.

The full backs in the second half, especially Valencia, pushed on in the game, which was a shift which also led to different movements across our attacking third. The wingers and Mata played with a lot more fluidity, often swapping positions but also regularly coming inside and leaving the full backs more time and space out wide, while also being able to make dangerous runs centrally. Another prominent move was Keane often moving wide into the channels, which then allowed the players behind him to make runs from deep for a pass to be played through or over the top of the defence. It did cost us possession at times, but the variation in style and speed of our attacks is something which has been sorely missed in our game.
Pereira and later Varela in midfield proved an interesting experiment. The former was perhaps a little prone to try and dribble out of danger early on, but settled quite well and distributed the ball neatly. Varela looked energetic and was quick to get himself into space, a sign that Mourinho may still be looking to try both creative and more industrious midfielders to find the best combination in the centre of the park. Both weren't tested too much individually in defence, although the defensive shape across the midfield as a whole did become messier as substitutions came in.
Mata seemed motivated and adjusted well to the slightly different demands to his attacking game. Was quicker to turn and look forward as Mkhitaryan did in the first half, and offered a nice passing range. If anything, his speed is still something that may hurt him in his bid to secure a starting spot, as he wasn't able to escape his marker quick enough to get the ball off a forward run at times. Played smartly to his strengths, however, and was willing to get back to close down space in midfield when defending.
Keane looked more impressive than Wilson did in his 45 mins. Was able to use his strength better than Wilson did with his speed. It doesn't help Wilson that his first touch lets him down at times, which makes it even harder for him to keep the ball with his back to goal. Both still have a lot to do to impress over the summer and get a place in the squad, with some strong names in our forward line now.

DP112 · 1日前

Nick Powell, my word

Prof_Dumbbelldore · 1日前

No analysis needed, these games are purely for fitness.

Lets remember Bebe looked good pre season.

I'm just to see United back on my screen

jorgelucas7 · 1日前

How was Shaw? How was his speed?

Pdeedb · 1日前

I'd say first half Mkhitaryan looked dangerous and with better players around him - i.e. Martial, Ibra etc would have created a lot more (Wilson just doesn't offer enough). Bailly wasn't really tested defensively so hard to gauge his quality - though he looked good on the ball. I'd say the standout performer was Luke Shaw, looked really fit and energetic, herrera also looked decent. All in all a good first warm up.

Side-note: Powell could've got about four yellow cards in 20mins.

patrickk719 · 1日前

Gotta disagree with OP saying Wilson and Memphis were poor. Decent movement from both throughout. Memphis needs to work on his shooting but otherwise they've given what's expected from a pre-season game. Wouldn't be too harsh on them yet.

Iamareddevil · 1日前

Varela at CM reminds me a lot of Verratti for some reason

Slice_be_nice · 1日前

Not sure if I'm reading too much into it, but looking at where Andreas Pereira was playing today do you guys think Mou will try to mold him into a fabregas type player in the 4231 formation from Chelsea? I thought he played really well in that role today, excited to see how he can progress.

Livettletlive · 1日前

I rather see Periera play CM. He played his best games deeper for the first team last season too.

TheJoshider10 · 1日前

Felt sorry for Memphis but it just wasn't his day. Overall a solid win, nice to see a dominant performance in possession that actually had some attacking intent.

Brownbear97 · 1日前

Continually impressed with pereiras passing, calm demeanor on the ball and overall technical skill.

I usually rate him in a number 10 role but he showed today (yes I know it was a friendly) that he can play just as well as a number 6.

ilee3 · 1日前

I hope Mata stays, he played well today

itsandercontrol · 1日前

Mkhi and Bailly looks great.

Blind was class.

Herrera, Mkhi and Lingard's link-up play was pretty good.

Mata played pretty well.

Pereira looking good in that CM role.

I actually really liked Varela in that CM role as well.

Pos	Team	Pld	GD	Pts
9	Liverpool	0	0	0
10	Manchester City	0	0	0
11	Manchester Utd	0	0	0
12	Middlesbrough	0	0	0
13	Southampton	0	0	0

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