World’s Muslim population more widespread than you might think
There are about 1.6 billion Muslims, or 23% of the world’s population, making Islam the second-largest religion.
There are an estimated 1.6 billion Muslims around the world, making Islam the world’s second-largest religious tradition after Christianity, according to the December 2012 Global Religious Landscape report from the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life.
Although many people, especially in the United States, may associate Islam with countries in the Middle East or North Africa, nearly two-thirds (62%) of Muslims live in the Asia-Pacific region, according to the Pew Research analysis. In fact, more Muslims live in India and Pakistan (344 million combined) than in the entire Middle East-North Africa region (317 million).
However, the Middle East-North Africa region has the highest concentration Muslims of any region of the world: 93% of its approximately 341 million inhabitants are Muslim, compared with 30% in sub-Saharan Africa and 24% in the Asia-Pacific region.
Muslims make up a majority of the population in 49 countries around the world. The country with the largest number (about 209 million) is Indonesia, where 87.2% of the population identifies as Muslim. India has the world’s second-largest Muslim population in raw numbers (roughly 176 million) though Muslims make up just 14.4% of India’s total population.
Pew Research uses an array of surveys, census reports, population registers and other data sources to estimate numbers of Muslims and other religious groups around the world, the goal being to count all groups and people who self-identify with a particular religion. The figures presented here are as of 2010.
Pew Research has put out several major reports recently on Muslims around the world, including ones on differences in their religious beliefs and practices, their views of religion, politics and society, and their use of the internet. For more details on the geographic distribution of the Muslim population, here is the relevant chapter of the Global Religious Landscape report. You can also explore our data on the current Muslim population in each country here and projections for future population growth here.
Category: Daily Number
Topics: Muslims and Islam, Population Geography, Population Trends
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Drew DeSilver is a senior writer at Pew Research Center.
Anonymous • 3 months ago
Can anyone tell me what portion of the world’s population was Muslim in the year 1647, the year of the Westminster Confession? I’d like to know the number expressed as a percentage of the world’s population at that time, and also the actual number of people that percentage represents.
CLAUDE WESTRA • 6 months ago
Valuable comments ! I loved the facts , Does someone know if my assistant could find a fillable TSP-16 document to complete ?
Amber • 7 months ago
Now I know why the world is so screwed up….God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is not your God Allah…Muhammad made up everything he wrote in the Koran…..not one persons name or place in the Koran has ever been proven by any scholars…not a single one person not a single place or time that he mentions has ever been proven…..it is one mans made up fabricated story of speaking to Gabriel the arch angle…it was Satan he was taking to….no sane person with any study of history or the truth should ever convert to the Islam religion….Allah a is fictionary character made up by Muhammad….sorry the truth hurts but if it makes you happy keep believing….There is only one true God and his name is God, the first, the last, the everlasting….he had no need to send anyone else after Jesus because his message was God loves everyone…so he certainly would never change what Jesus preached to love your neighbor as yourself….so whatever muslims believe when they kill in the name of Allah that is the devil in disquise..
wally • 7 months ago
OMG DID YOU NOT know?????? Jesus is mentioned 300x more then anyone else in the Quran !! Oh and Jesus spoke Aramiac which the word for god was Ella which in arabic is Allah, oh and jesus didnt eat pork either, and he prayed with his head to the ground like Muslims do..
Oh and Muslim know
Andy B • 6 months ago
Jesus is never mentioned once in the koran
Instead Mohammad used the name Isa (Esau) to describe him. Esau was the a derogatory name Arabian Jews were using to describe Jesus during Mohammad’s time. Mohammad unwittingly picked up on this and used it in reference to Jesus.
If Mohammad was a prophet of Yahweh, don’t you think Yahweh would have given him the correct name so he would have gotten his son/prophets name correct? Lmao.
Anonymous • 4 months ago
Actually it is one of the six essential beliefs that a Muslim must believe in the Prophets before Muhammad and the scriptures that came before the Qu’ran. Did you pick up the Qu’ran or did you look up a summary on the internet?
lola Love • 5 months ago
Wally,
Jesus spoke Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek!
Judaizing Jews used Hebrew. Hellenistic Jews used Greek.
The Septuagint (i.e. the Greek Old Testament) is a translation made by Hellenistic Jews.
Jesus, when He was 12, used Hebrew when He taught the Judaizing Jews in the Temple.
Jesus, when He was 33, used Greek when He spoke to Pontius Pilate, who only spoke Greek and Latin.
The Aramaic word “alla” means above. The Aramaic word “eloah” means god.
Al’Lah in English means The’God (or G-d as English-speaking Jews mostly use it). It is a placeholder for God’s personal name, which is Yahweh.
One of the 10 Commandments of God is *not* to use His name in vain. Jews stopped using God’s personal name all together because they feared misuse, especially by Pagans.
Muhammad, a Pagan, heard the Arabized Jews (i.e. Israelites) and the Jewish Arabs (i.e. converts) use the placeholder and thought that it is God’s personal name!
In the spirit of Andy, I ask: If Muhammad was a prophet of Yahweh, don’t you think that Yahweh would have given it to Muhammad in the Quran as Yahweh gave it to the Jews in the Holy Torah?
Anonymous • 3 months ago
thank you people like Amber need to be more a wear and educated about Islam…before they speak out.
Anonymous • 4 months ago
How is it concrete that God is true, that Allah is not true? Did you know that Muhammad set down ten rules for war and they include the ban of killing elderly people, women and children, cows and even trees? So when you say things like this it just speaks to your profound ignorance in religion. And it is believed that the Qu’ran was revealed to Muhammad over the course of 23 years. I have no problem insulting you because I’m not Muslim, little do you know 40-50% of non-Muslims lived together under Muslim power for over 600 years, thats called the Ottoman empire. When Muslims lived under non-Muslim power? They faced genocide and torture. SO I think you might want to pick up a book before you comment on a religion with over 1.6 billion followers based on the decision of the radical few.
joan driussi • 8 months ago
WHY DO THE FAITHFUL MUSLIMS NOT REBEL AGAINST ISAS WHY IS THERE NO AUTHORITY IN THE MUSLIM FAITH TO ACT AGAINST SUCH HORROR AFTER ALL ISAS HAS KILLED MANY MUSLIMS I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE MUSLIM RELIGION TAUGHT ABOUT PEACE I AM 74 YRS OLD & WILL NOT BELIEVE THAT SUCH HORROR IS IN THE NAME OF RELIGION I THINK ISAS IS EVIL & GIVES TRUE MUSLIMS A BAD NAME
SURELY THERE MUST BE A TIME WHEN ACTION FROM WITHIN IN THE MUSLIM AUTHORITIES HAVE A RIGHT TO DEAL WITH THIS THE WORLD SHOULD BE A PEACE AS MOHAMAD
PREDICITED THE HORROR IN FRANCE SHOULD BE ACTED UPON
Yusuf Ahmed • 5 months ago
The Institute of Space and Astronautical Science? What????
Gerome • 9 months ago
Why are so Many black Christians imprisoned in America but very few Muslims?
rayyan • 9 months ago
ALLAH IS GREAT
edward • 10 months ago
thats alot man
amber • 10 months ago
woah so many people and did u know its about 23% of the earth’s population
rockland • 10 months ago
Matthew 24:11
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Matthew 7:15 – Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Mindy Gretty • 10 months ago
Amen!
Tehwujd` • 10 months ago
Islam started with Adam the first ever person on the world and ended with Muhhamed
Josie • 9 months ago
Isam started with Abraham’s son Ishmael, not Adam!
wally • 7 months ago
No Adam and eve,the snake and apple, its all in the quran lol so is moses jesus noah all of them literally…duhhh and that false prophet thing….ya thats in the Quran too..
Yusuf Ahmed • 5 months ago
Well actually nobody ever said ‘apple’ because it is irrelevant what he ate.
Yusuf Ahmed • 5 months ago
Just before you start up the “Your religion is false oh my god you are liars bla bla bla bla “, try thinking it in others’ perspectives. Think it in a person robbed by ISIS, or an innocent Muslim child living in Malaysia or whatnot. Put yourself in other people’s shoes before making that biased comment.
Melody Szabo • 3 months ago
Islam began with Muhammad and will end this century.
Iqbal Khan • 1 year ago
THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION
However, Allah (SWT) exhorts in the Final Revelation, the Final Testament, that every human being has been given the wisdom to discern RIGHT from WRONG!!!!
Every human being is urged, beseeched, for his/her own understanding and clarity, to read the Qur’aan in a language they understand, and then to decide intelligently in what state of belief they would choose to die.
I read the Qur’aan in English. It is the clear, indubitable Word of Allah. My hair stood on enends, as I realised that these could only be the words of our Creator!
Do not die without having read the Qur’aan! You cannot deny that you have not been told!
Allah is Aware of Everything!
Put Him to the Test!!!!!!
He has given you the intelligence to understand!!!!!!
Kenton • 7 months ago
Here’s the problem of all religions, they were all created prior to empirical science/deductive reasoning to explain what early humans didn’t understand and give them a sense of security or rationally to their life. But, if it still works for you, enjoy your conscious as long as it last.
All conscious behavior reacts to insecurity and impotency (That is, the striving for potency and security). This is good (although not necessarily logically exhibited). All conscious organisms want and need a secure environment to developed and thrive.
AbdulRahman Uthman Olakewu • 1 year ago
ASALAMU ALAIKUNM, I ENJOY THIS SITE INDEED.
I BELIEVE THAT ISLAM IS THE BEST RELIGION AS THERE IS NO ANY OTHER RELIGION FROM ALLAH……………………… I ‘LL LET MY FRIENDS KNOW ABOUT THIS SITE.
JASAKUMULLAHU KHAIRAN. I ALSO WISH YOU RAMADAN KAREEM..
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Zeyd Al-Abdeli • 7 months ago
w/salam bro btw allah is not a religion islam is and dont discriminate other religions remember dont give muslims a bad face coz we need to show the world what islam is really about
LENA • 1 year ago
Human cant live without :water,food,sun,communication.But can live very successfully without any religions,i m one of that.i love pple,i cry when animal dying,love plant.Nothing wrong with me,Why? Because i m not religion,so i dnt see enemy from other pple.
Greenleaf • 10 months ago
I totaly agree on that, we are all humans, and religion is only there to divide and conquer us more. I join you’r way of life.
Keith • 9 months ago
Religion is man made. Relationship with Christ is what saves us
Daniel Robert • 1 year ago
By 2050 everyone predict Islam will be the largest faith and 40-45%
Lol • 1 year ago
Wow
first name last name • 1 year ago
I read this for school.
Zziwa Ali from Uganda • 1 year ago
The Muslim population is so far good and I believe it is growing at an adequate rate,thus I see no satisfactory cause for those groups terrorizing the world in the name of fighting for Islam.I know they will claim that if it were not for their actions the Muslim population would not be at this level I am admiring, but I ,and I believe many, hate their actions.
Majiek • 1 year ago
Then why don’t they do anything? Donate to those affected or help identify and close these sects down?
Keith • 9 months ago
It’s because they are extremists. We find extremists that follow all sorts of religions. Look at the Army of God, they consider themselves christians and acting on the behalf of God. It’s crazy, no way to really get rid of it. Extreme leaders prey on people that come looking for help. They twist the sacred texts, the new believer believes what they say and a terrorcell is born.
cv • 8 months ago
Exactly. ..how many Christians r fighting the kkk? Why do people brand all Muslims bad because of extremists groups. No one is blaming all Christians for Jim Jones or slavery!!
Johan • 1 year ago
The only way to establish that any faith is non-violent, that one of it’s first precepts is peace is for two soldiers to walk up to each other and look into each others eyes and say “I will not fight you” and then drop their weapons and shake hands or embrace (be as comfortable as they feel) and then the next two to do the same and so on until no faith stands against another just because they use different words/languages/names to pray to the same God. Jews, Christians and Muslims can all trace their roots back to Adam through Abraham. We can at least be civil and respectful to each other while on this Earth that HE has made.
Majiek • 1 year ago
…won’t ever happen, need transparency and all books written when the earth was flat need updating– Amen(d)
Tee • 8 months ago
The Quran says the earth is a sphere!
Andy B • 6 months ago
No it doesn’t. It records that it is flat in five places. The 6th states that it is the shape of the ground when an ostrich lays it’s egg.
The fact that an ostrich flattens the ground before laying his egg is the emphasis and not the shape of the egg.
At least the bible states the world is round.
Kris • 1 year ago
When we judge people based on their actions and leave other considerations (religion, gender, race etc.) out, then only can we be considered “Religious”. All religions encourage us to do good to other people. The politicians inject the divisions so they can rule.
Rahul Swami • 1 year ago
Hello brother Sankeerth. The Vedas is the highest form of scripture in the Hindu religion and all other scriptures follow after e.g Bhagvad Gita, Mahabharata etc, and if there are any contradictions within the scriptures the Vedas will triumph as it holds the most weight.
In Yugarvedh it mentions that God is only one and has NO second and that god has no image, sculpture, painting or idol.
Also in the Upanishads it mentions the coming/arrival of prophet Muhammed (Allah’s peace and blessing be upon him) as well as in several other places/Hindu scriptures.
You will be suprised about how many of the religions preach that ultimately GOD is one and not to associate partners with him but many deviate from this initial path and worship many saints and human beings and stray far away.
As a muslim, to make such claims without proof and not to back them up would mean great sin for oneself so please see the following videos which will be beneficial for all of humanity.
We all need to make sure we seek ‘WHAT IS THE TRUTH’ behind all the false accusations and veils which are presented to us in the media and by hear say.
Similarities between Christianity and Islam:
youtube.com/watch? v=TbUN73AREcY
Similarities between Hinduism and Islam:
youtube.com/watch? v=Z18mtEShqCI
The Qur’an and the bible in the light of science:
youtube.com/watch?v=XOD2KXXzsjM
General Q&A session about Islam:
youtube.com/watch?v=I6_WWm_gBco
All these videos I hope will help anyone who has doubts and is unsure of what the real ISLAM is.
May the Mercy, peace and blessing of Almighty God be upon each and everyone of us and through submission to his will, can be the only way to all our success.
tom • 1 year ago
you are right that all prophets written in the Qur’an were Jewish minus Muhammad. Torah, al-quran and bible came from one GOD, bible said that Jesus is Jewish, God send Jesus to be a Successor to Moses, and Muhammad is Successor to Christ. You must compare three religion (Jew, Christian, Islam) in a deeply and open minded manner through its scripture…
Andy B • 6 months ago
Unfortunately God in the bible tells us that Jesus will be the last prophet and if you understood anything about Islamic and Christian eschatology you would certainly know that Islam and Christianity serve totally contradictory gods
Zaheeda • 1 year ago
salaams, I am also a 16 year old muslim and the first comment broke my heart. Just because some people in Islam are not following the religion correctly doesn’t mean the whole is bad. The media also plays a big hand here, it is known to twist the truth about.
I urge you all to to do research about Islam by studying its main and true sources and not through fabricated propaganda to have an impartial judgment of Islam. I wish you all the best. InshAllah.
Waqar Arain • 1 year ago
Worry not young my beautiful young sister. Islam is the most powerful religion known to man, Allah sent it for humans to learn to live within the means of his love. Alislam.org
Macjiek • 1 year ago
Religion is believing without proof, tell me why westerners cannot buy property in the Middle East and would Muslims be as benefit generous to Christians as Christians are to them? Show me proof that Western Muslims have raised funds to support the fight against Islamic terror..if your not with the support than you’re against it.
Moet Chandon • 1 year ago
Well said Macjliek, I wish to know why Islamic countries do not take in refugees and make them citizens like the West does and why refugees do not like to go to Islamic countries.
If Islam is a religion of peace and harmony then people should be happy to enter these countries and if you are a Muslim then so much the better.
Is it that the west is more tolerant to the intolerant?
Ahmed Lotfy • 1 year ago
I’m from Egypt
nd I wat to tell you that
as I am muslim I doesn’t want to live in this countries
these not islamic countries
these countries want to be like west
and thy fail to be either islamic or western
Geronimo • 9 months ago
This passage in the Koran tells exactly how you feel….and it is hateful and barbaric…”Islam is committed to the destruction of infidels” which targets anyone who does not believe in allah..you cannot change the print of the foreboding meaning.
tara • 8 months ago
Peace ❤
Me • 1 year ago
@ Maria C. O’Brien
Nice name you’ve got there. Surely even from history ( since you no longer believe in religion) you know the name of the mother of a certain man called Jesus whose life was remarkable than anyone who ever walked the earth. I mean even the greatest minds like Einstein, Newton, Galileo and Faraday just to mention a few, are not known to billions of people as much as Christ is to both atheists and theists, even to those who can’t be placed in any of the two groups I have mentioned. For evidence just travel around the world and see for yourself.
Logic tells me that he was no ordinary man. Even if you will say otherwise, please don’t forget to be honest to yourself too.
You had good parents ( I believe they were well established in their faith) I have to ask you, which rules were you bound to obey in that particular faith? I am one and I am the free’est’ person than I could ever imagine. The Church never binds people to do something they don’t want. It only speaks for Christ ( it is the manifold wisdom of God to all powers and principalities). That is why it always speaks aloud against evils like abortion, contraception, the ongoing pathetic sexual revolution etc. Name another church which boldly does so. It doesn’t however, interfere in one’s decision.
With all that said, I respect your decision and I have no right to interfere in your decision but I have a duty to speak out whatever I know is right. You can take it or leave it, it’s your call. Remember that, it is better to believe than not to since what will you lose if truly God does exist?
Tecla
Maciejk • 1 year ago
Devolution of the human race are those who believe in stories when the earth was flat.
Me. • 1 year ago
I am in tears to know that the statement ” narrow is the gate to heaven” is becoming more of a reality. It also shocks me that even Islam knows of the coming of the anti–Christ not anti-Muhammad.
Whether Islam means submission to the creator or not, you are not in your right minds ( no offence) to think that all of humanity are Muslims. Without shame u proudly say that Adam was a Muslim. Geez, I thought Islam came too late and as late as the 6th century after Christ. That is beyond unreasonable. It also shocks me that all prophets written in the Qur’an were Jewish minus Muhammad who was visited by a spirit and claims that it was angel Gabriel. I wonder how the Angel feels especially if this claim is false.
Sorry but whether Islam is growing too fast or too slow, it really doesn’t matter because Truth will always stand to the end. I’m in shock that Boko Haram, Alqaeda, Alshabaab, ISIS are made up of Muslims. These guys probably pray more than 5 times, recite the entire Quran everyday etc and you want to tell me that it is a religion of peace? Have you witnessed the killings? Come to Africa and go to Iraq for more evidence. I heard that ‘Allah’ promised these guys a ‘paradise’ filled with Virgins. Hahaha. Good luck with that.
sometimes I am tempted to say that Allah is not YHWH because of how Muslims take him to be. Don’t get me wrong here, but I just can’t help it. I am with Muslims concerning the true attributes of God. I am not with them when they start propagating some lies based on a 6th century guy who had visits from a spirit alleged to be Gabriel the arch Angel. It also shocks me that YHWH was the name revealed by God a lot of years b4 Christ and the Muslims claim that Allah is the most ‘glorious’ name of God. Evidence? As far as I know, Allah was the greatest god of the 360 gods in pagan Arabia. It was given to God by your prophet and not any alleged revelations the guy claims to have had. So I am fine with God being called Allah but not that it is his most glorious name.
All the best.
Maria C O’Brien • 1 year ago
Religion… (any religion) is a virus in the people”s minds……. just like the Aids virus, except worse yet.
Maria C O’Brien • 1 year ago
Religion… (any religion) is a virus in the people”s minds……. just like the Aids virus, except worse yet because people kill and torture others, believing in some religions.
I was raised with extreme catholic parents with extreme rules and guilt about everything. After studying different religions I came to the realization that religion (instead of helping people, they really cause harm and make religious extremist dangerous people.
I am free now……. Free from religion……. and I am happy this way. I could just never go back to the way I used to be and believe. Thank God !!!!!
josach • 9 months ago
stalin was an atheist
hitler was an atheist
Anonymous • 2 months ago
You say that you free from religion but you say thank you to God,wtf is wrong with ur mind?
Anonymous • 2 months ago
Y do u have to thank god when u don’t believe in any God
TheNextGenNation • 1 year ago
In the Quran it states: There will be a sign of judgement where men in black beards will read the Quran and pray five times a day, yet in their hearts is nothing but violence and Muslims will soon lie in agony due to their foolish actions.
It isn’t the religion that categorizes a human, it is the human that messes with the reputation of his or her religion.
ahmad abdallah • 1 year ago
Yehwa is a pagan canaanite God, look it up in wikipedia “canaanite Gods”.jews didnt follow true jaudism.even old testiment says this.they mitated the canaanites in everything.and worshipped theirgods.while look for any BIBLICAL ARAMIC DICTIONARY on the internett.Aramic is the mother tongue of prophet Jesus and his virgin pious mether.the word”GOD” in the Aramic bilbe wasAllah”!!!!! So muslims are correct.while Taorah and bible were not written early and a lot of alteration and changes and mixing with non holy texts happened.READ QURAN!! SERIOUSLY ITS A VERY UNIQUE TEXT.if you are an objective person then judge Quran yourself.im sure you will find tthe answer if you were truly and fairly looking for it.best of luck
Luis • 1 year ago
Hi Ahmad, your commentaries caught my attention for they sound to me of being made in good faith.
First of all, please don’t take my commentaries as an offense. Although I don’t share your opinion, I respect it.
By the way, I really think I should read the QURAN and see if I can find the same unique consistency, internal and external validations and historical context and above all, live examples that I can find throughout Bible’s Old and New Testimonies. And I will do it with an open mind.
Being a devoted Christian and at same time knowing that I am a sinful person that only deserves judgment (for God’s Grace and not my own merits that I am redeemed), I have a hard time to accept individuals or religions who dare to give GOD and His prophets a NAME and worse, to DEFEND them from pagan’s attacks and insults. Isn’t crystal clear that those do that, they worship is a man-made god or prophet, like any other imagery or sculpture, except for being virtual?
The true GOD and His true prophets (whatever their names are), can’t be NAMED by man nor counting on man’s power to defend them. That would be too much of a humiliation for GOD for we are all impure and evil in nature (just look around!!!).
I also doubt that GOD and His prophets would expect us to DEFEND them as a living proof of our loyalty and love for doing so, god and prophets just demonstrate their inability of searching and knowing our harts. Only insecure people need a proof of love and loyalty. Remember, GOD is not like man but man is still not getting it right. Man insists on projecting their own idiosyncrasies into “god.
You’re absolutely right! The Jews have been stubborn for ever and had worshiped other gods back in time. They are the most perfect example of the unconditional GOD’s love.
And we are the most perfect subject of GOD’s grace. For we are evil and will not conquer our salvation by our might and merits, but by Grace (100% credits towards GOD!). “For by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, [it is] the gift of God;”
And more:
“Not by might, not by power, but by my Spirit, saith JEHOVAH of hosts”
God bless you.
muhammad • 1 year ago
Peace be unto those who follow the guidance. i advice you to undertake a serious study of Islam with an open mind.
AHMED • 1 year ago
IF YOU SEE THE NEW TESTMENT OF THE BIBLE YOU SEE JESUS TALK ABOUT LOVE AND PEACE ONLY
Global Citizen • 1 year ago
Are you sure about that? Or are you perhaps poisoned by same Kool-Aid that religion dishes out to billions…
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law–a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.” –Jesus
Lynton • 1 year ago
I think you misunderstand the verse. The verse was designed to illustrate that Christianity was a powerful ideology(illustrated by the use of the word sword). Jesus was saying some people would believe in it, some wouldn’t. This was going to divide families as if you believed and your father didn’t it could cause a divide.
The fact of the matter is Jesus never used or advocated violence, nor did any of his disciples.
md.aymul haque • 1 year ago
the words ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD ARE IN HINDU RELIGION IN ARABIC ,NOT IN SANSKRIT ALPHABET.
THE WORDS TRISUL AND OMKAR DISPLAYED IN THE MANDIRS OF HINDUS AND ON THE FRONTS OF THE TRUCKS AND BUSES AND ALL TYPES VEHICLES OF INDIA ARE BELOVED AND RESPECTEFUL WORDS TO ALL HINDUS OF THE WORLD.the hindus are ready to fight to defend the rights to display the two words from their hearts to the fore fronts of any moving vehicles. but they do not know what these words mean . because these are not written in sanskrit.
the amazing fact is that the words are written in arabic which they display proudly. trisul is for allah and omkar is for muhammad. explanation:- if i braek trisul, there will be alif,lam,lam and ha. these are four arabic alphabets. combine them . it will be allah. similarly break omkar,there will be five arabic alphabets. these are meem,ha ,meem, dal and a tasdik. combine them serially. it will be muhammad. so the hidus love the words allah and muhammad without knowing the cause.
in my opinion allah has given these words to hindus so that when somebody expalin them the meaning , they should search for what these words mean . after understanding the meaning they should follow the teachings what they have been taught. for this they should go to a muslim wise man i.e moulana or arabic learned man . u may contact me through my e.mail address.
aymul
Mohamed M. Komara • 1 year ago
The spread of the Muslim population around the world shows the truth of the prophecy made by Prophet Muhammad, Peace & Blessings of Allah Be Upon Him (PBH). He is reported to have said that Islam will reach everywhere night and day reach.
Today, this is true, but the time he said it, Muslims were a minority who were being persecuted in Arabia. Today, no amount of smear campaign, negative media propaganda, diversionary tactics, bullying, arm twisting or brute force can halt the spread of Islam.
Blessed are those non-Muslims who are being and will be liberated and emancipated by Allah from the yokes of the tyrant-Satan and his human agents.
Islam is the most beautiful religion.
Islam has no equals amongst the world’s religion, because it is the only unadulterated and pure teaching of Allah. Allah has no equals, so His pure teaching (Islam) has no equal.
Take it or leave it. However, please take it. It will be good for you, for your children and descendants. Make Satan to regret not to rejoice. Read the books on Islam, not only from its enemies who Islam, but also from from those who love and cherish this beautiful religion.
Jay • 1 year ago
ditto wrt Christianity . . .
know Jesus and know Peace and Joy in your life.
sal • 2 years ago
i agree with you regarding all religions. Modern world is about democracy and equality. but it is the same greed of usa and europe still goes on in the name of petrodollar and only a few accepted currency and UN and US bias toward israel (the biggest terrorist in the world
salima • 2 years ago
Salam alaykom to all the people , i’m a muslim girl , i have 16 years old , i love Islam so mush , i think it isn’t just a religion it is all the hapiness than you will feel in your life , why you aren’t reading Islam in the quran ? Why you like just repeat what the humains says in TV , please if you want to know what is the right Islam search it in the koran and i’m sure you will be a new nice muslim , islam is beautiful . Islam anti terrorism , please just search , good luck to all of you , with all my respect and love *a small muslim girl*
Paula • 2 years ago
God bless you Sallma
Whitney • 2 years ago
I feel the same thing about Christianity except there isn’t hate in the bible
ParkaBoy • 1 year ago
If you think there isn’t hate in the bible, you haven’t read the bible. The Old Testament has some seriously crazy stuff in it. Did you know that picking up sticks on the sabbath and cheating on your husband are both punishable by stoning to death accordingn to the bible? Rhys pretty hateful in my book.
mohammed • 1 year ago
Where is the hate in the Koran . Did you read it first ?
Leo • 1 year ago
Right! And Christians DO NOT condone terrorisim!
Akram khan • 1 year ago
Waalikumassalam,,,,, ,,,,,, Absolutely right dear
ZOHAIB • 1 year ago
I ifeel same thing about ………………….all muslim and good bless
Farooq Anwar • 2 years ago
@Bill If there is no religion exist in ths world how could
you survive ? religion is must to live a better and peaceful life because it’s gives the right way, path to live ..!
shakil ahmad • 2 years ago
I think Islam is the sound of the soul of the human being .so many peoples of the world accepting this religion.some non Muslims are looking are towards those Muslim’s act who involve in violence but not to those who live peacefully in society and building up the society.a large number of follower of Islam spreading the moral education of Islam..
ridwaan • 2 years ago
terrorism has got nothing to do with Islam and neither does Islam with terrorism. Islam is from Allah and terrorism shaytaan who is misleading the extreme and the ignorant people.
Isabel Smith • 2 years ago
people held by terror are not believers or followers, they are prisoners…. where there is mercy killing, controlling women’s rights, and outright terrorism, there is little room left for intelligent discussion.
ahmad • 2 years ago
hi lady
Every body know The terrorism groups made from western Statesmen specially USA official. many people believe The official of USA are the chief of terrorism groups such as DAASH (ISIS), Alqaedeh, Taliban,… and those groups received order from western official and do according that.
I have a request madam. Please and please THINKING about news That you hear, because many of that news are propaganda. According the Muslims Law, If everybody kill a human without any guilty, He is killed all human in the world.
Dylan H. • 2 years ago
Isabel may be describing the history of her own religious sect.
She was named after a Queen who ordered the mass “conversion” or expulsion of Muslims and Jews in 15th century Spain, among other things.
The Cuban • 12 months ago
Many of the comments seem to be well meaning, but are in fact
historical revisionism.
Europeans did not engage into invading Islam.
Islam engaged into invading Islam.
The claims are that Islam was nice while invading.
Do you listen to yourselves, when is an invasion a good thing?
Just ask the more than 100000 hindus castrated to become male servants in the harems. The many Spaniards killed during the invasion. My descendants are from Spain and the saying goes that a cage of gold is still a cage.
Or the millions or Armenians killed.
Very funny, Islam always has an excuse when they invade, kill and main and they are so rigid and unwilling to accept the excuses of anyone else.
Wow, and they call us Crusaders, when they were the original crusaders.
Even 9/11 was a repeat to the Golden Gate city, The Big Apple. They never forgot how the Polish monarchy came to the aid of Vienna and a 300000 strong Muslim army besieged the city and ultimately repelled.
Let us be honest with each other, Christianity is a religion.
Islam is based on religion/political/sociological principles that seek to control the rest of fellow men and should not be trusted. Radicals in the zeal to convert our planet into a caliphate. Seek truth and you will see the taqiyya is at work all over the world while undergoing Islamization.
When Islam becomes strong enough the only choice their rigid ideology permits others is to convert or die.
#Is life just play ??? • 1 year ago
I am a Muslim and I agree with everyone, you say that Muslims spoilers and murderers Yes, but should not be mixing with Islam, mixed with the doctrines of the religion remained as it exists in the Koran Jihad, Jihad is to defend your country and your religion and not attack, as they do, unfortunately, we do not know the fact that the Koran does not distort.
dinesh gurjar • 2 years ago
i am hindu but i respect also islam.me and my muslim friend we always discuss on our geeta & quaran.
in hindu religion we respect all relegion(good things) i heared that islam aur all other religion is used for peace not for war then tell me what happen in iraq & seria??my muslim friend tell me that if people killed people then that people is called “heavan”(terririst).
anonymous • 2 years ago
I am neither Hindu or Islam (I’m not religious) but I’ve learned a lot about Islam through school and I think the reason why your friend says Islam is used for peace not war is because of how he/she interprets the Qu’ran. The things that happened in Iraq and Syria are mostly because of terrorist attacks from Islam extremist groups, I believe the reason why they do such thing is because there are many meanings behind every verse in the Qu’ran and the meaning depends on what you think it means. In this instance the terrorists may think that the Qu’ran is telling them to use violence in the name of their god called Allah, and your friends believes that it means to be peaceful. I’m not sure if this is all correct by the way but it’s based on what I know.
sipan kelani • 2 years ago
Great to see I have so many moslim brothers in the world
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
people ask questions like how do we know the qur’aan is in it’s orignal state. I’m born in cape town south africa, and the time the dutchmen took over the cape they brought slaves from the east. These slaves wrote the qur’aan by heart and taught t to other non-muslim slaves and they accepted Islam. Couple years after that the arabs discovered that islam grew in the cape and found out that the qur’aan is axactly the same as theirs and not a single letter out of place. Thats just one of the signifigance of this pure religion of Allah. May thats where cape town got its name as the cape of good hope.
Munira • 2 years ago
I’m happy to see that Muslim are largest population, because many Muslim’s equal is many of us calling Allah.
BRI • 2 years ago
Check your statistics again, your islam does NOT have the largest population, christianity does.
Zain • 1 year ago
You are right BRI. Christianity has the worlds largest population. This article is mentioning the fastest growing religion. I quote from the article “There are an estimated 1.6 billion Muslims around the world, making Islam the world’s second-largest religious tradition after Christianity”. It evidently says “second-largest”. Please read before posting.
bri • 2 years ago
hi noooo i dont think
SH • 2 years ago
you can read quran and discover islam without listening bad things from other how just hate it for no reason
Najruddin Bindwal • 2 years ago
I LOVE ISLAM I PROUD TO BORN IN A ISLAM FAMILY
ISLAM GIVE ALWAYS RIGHT ADVICE TO SPENTD LIFE
PLEASE ACCEPT IT
David A. Reichert • 2 years ago
Religion is nonsense and is one of the top causes of war and murder. Religion is not a good moral standard as “God” can command one to commit atrocities as well as good behavior. Religious dogma must be protected at all costs which including lying, terrorism, and murder. Communism is an ideology and like dogma must be promoted at all costs. In reality, forcing atheism was the only good doctrine that promoted.
Luke • 2 years ago
Religions are like complex philosophies, but based not on reason, like most of what we call philosophies are, but on faith. Unfortunately, the faith is often placed on very old texts that represent a very different world and worldview. The gods we created were there to explain that which happens – everything from rain to death – and to control population an thinking. Buddhism, which is not so much a religion as the other “main” religions of our time as it posits no godhead, is probably the most sensible path. The others offer up too much room for misinterpretation. Not only do we not even truly understand thousands of years hence what was truly meant by those texts, but they’ve been changed (and we’ve changed) drastically. Religion can be a beautiful thing to have as a part of your life, but if you go beyond a basic golden rule of respecting and treating other people as you would want to be treated, you tread in very dangerous waters. Hand me any old religious text and I can probably find a reason to kill you because of it. Explore your religions to your heart’s content, but don’t truly believe you have some true understanding of “God”, which if it exists, is so far beyond our texts, thoughts and understanding that we’re like infants trying to understand cosmology, and make “be nice” your way of life.
Alpa • 1 year ago
Really. Isn’t it better for people to believe what they want to believe
saif • 2 years ago
I love to be a muslim and pray to Allah subhana taala.All muslims beleive that we should follow the rules that Muhammed sallalahi wa salem.I will always be a muslim.I hope that the hole wild world will be a muslim.I love all the information.
gooooooooooood luck!!!
shams safa afg…. • 2 years ago
Asalam o alaikum to all my Muslim brother:)
Islam is the most growing up religion in the world and Inshaa’Allah one will Islam dominate whole the wold as you are aware in UK and another countries a lot of people converted to Islam holy religion may Allah bless us all tnx every body)))))))))
ali • 2 years ago
Yes I am sure of that. I was born and raised in a muslim country as a muslim and islam only means bigotyr, hatred and all other sillyness a 6th century arabic slave trader can harness. The so-called god-made laws are a mix of 6st century arabic tribal law. Islam is just a joke on all humanity. And I am sre if there ever was an Adam, he is not a muslims. :))
aozozo • 2 years ago
your atheist is showing.
Leo • 1 year ago
Yes, it sounds like you, like just about all other Muslim are fanatical about their religion. Many are so fanatical about their religion, they will kill in the name of Islam, and join terrorist groups in order to carry out their crazy wishes.
Hope you aren’t one of them.
Anonymous • 2 years ago
And following your statement, reality is that the media are only portraying Christianity as the only religion not terrorising. The definition of terrorism is violent acts to cause terror. The american government are one of the biggest terrorists, they are allowing innocent citizens in palestine to be killed by the Israeli government. In fact, they are allowing this to happen by not preventing it or doing anything to stop it. I am sure that if Palestine were the ones killing the Israelians then Barak would sure to do something to stop this. On the contrary to my argument, you could state that the publicity of the Palestine situation went global, Muslims are doing nothing to help. This is partly true as even Egypt (a dominantly Muslim populated country) blocked off its tunnels for Palestinians to escape. However, I am sure many Muslims have donated to send aid to the trapped citizens. Alike you, I do think that extremists are very bad people, however i do not agree with catorgarising them on their religion. Being Christian myself, I know that there are seemed to be “rare cases” that Christians have terrorised but the media itself are the ones who hide their crimes to portray ideas to everyone and to get across what they want everyone to have as an opinion.
Sent this as just an eye opener to everyone haha not targeting you just thought your comment was a good example to make a political religious argument on.
Marcus p • 2 years ago
America may be a “christian” country… but I assure you all of our foreign policies and terrorism(in its many forms) are perpetrated by Jewish men and women who are running our government.
Mohammed Shain • 2 years ago
Islam is derived from the Arabic root “Salema”: peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.
Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.
Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man’s peace and harmony.
Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God’s prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.
Islam’s message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God’s last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.
Don • 2 years ago
No you are incorrect, Muslims 1.5 billion none Muslims 5.7 billion,
Don • 2 years ago
Untrue first came Abraham, then Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, Islam was never preach before Abraham, these are historical facts, God said we are all his children no matter what religan, that’s why the prophet accepted all religans of the book, sadly Muslims ignore gods words in favour of a false belief that there’s is the only true religan until Muslims accept other beliefs there will always be conflict.
lol • 2 years ago
Islam is not man made cus I believe it has the only scripture in the world that.states in it by God that , He has made Islam the religion for mankind and has made it complete and pure with unequivocal evidence…. just have a look through the quran and I believe u will get ur answers….
so how do u expect human beings to live without a religion or any rules n regulations or laws governing us by our creator…
even ur clothes have a manufacturer n sometimes some menu is given on how to wash it n treat it…. so how much more we humans….”
So do u mean religion is sonkinda conjecture? well, I don’t knw what u thinking tho …. Buh I believe n pray that tba Almighty God leads u to the right religion”
sankeerth • 2 years ago
Its a known fact to many that Islam spread through blood and sword in many parts of the world be it India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. The ancestors of 500 million Muslim populace living in those regions were either Hindus or Buddhists. The disenchantment with casteism in aforementioned countries combined with the fear of being labelled as apostates by the Islamic rulers forced many Hindus to convert into Islam. Casteism unfortunately was misconstrued by many of the western folks. The main purpose was to enforce division of labour in the society but unfortunately some section of the society mended the meaning to suit their needs.
Now coming to religion Hinduism is the oldest, tolerant religion in the world. In fact the mosque where Muslims circum-ambulate with a white attire was in fact a Hindu religious place of worship. Also the ‘TAJ MAHAL’ , so called symbol of love , was in fact a shiv temple which was forcefully taken over by Shah Jahan which was later converted into Mausoleum. Also I have see the comments made by some of my Christian and Muslim folks mocking the CUSTOMS. Yes we do worship umpteen number of gods and very inherent scriptures gives us the freedom to worship n number of gods or 0 number of gods. Hinduism is in fact a way of life. The scriptures in Hinduism are best critiques on how to lead a better life. Each and every thing mentioned in vedas, upanishads etc has a scientific reason behind it. The option in front of every human being is to search …….and find a path that leads to better way of life……………
murlikrishna • 2 years ago
If.muslims.had.resorted to.forced conversion in india, hindus today would have been a minority. Period. Your rss and hindu political parties are the real issue india because they want it to be a hindu rashtra. Muslims are being indoctrinated by extremist islamic elements which causes violence and hatred among both communities. Wish everyone followed a moderate path.
Nadodi • 2 years ago
@murlikrishna, You are right on, bro! As a muslim, I agree with you 100% and thank you so much for your honest opinion. We need to educate fanatics in all religious and non religious group so that we would live peacefully respecting each others faith. May God bless you.
PT • 1 year ago
Even better, how about you keep your religion to yourself and practice in your own house. You do realize that religion is the only thing that does not really change, because the explanations are outdated. In reality, religion is not relevant, it is for the ignorant.
riya • 2 years ago
Why 35 take muslim in india80 percentage.but truth will remain there that in india 80% are hindu.stop atupid talks let every body live in there own way.all religion are beautifull.if there is really allah then he himself will be powerfull no one has need to say there is allah .one day he will himself show us atleast believe in you faith why are you people panicing .atleast he will be that much stronger i dont know.because my god is so strong that i dont have to give his proof my religion says every where is god when u r in troble and some one comes for your help he will be a form of god.the food which keeps us alive it is form of god.and our souls are part of that god one day we will meet in the greates soul(god). I m hindu and im proud to be hindu.
ijazkhan • 2 years ago
A day wll come when muslims wll become the largest population of the world….inshallah
md nehaluddin • 2 years ago
inshallah myfriend
Bill • 2 years ago
Just think what the world could be like if there were no religions. Just think of the wars and killings that could have been prevented if religion did not exist. Is mankind incapable of living without religion? Must it support a concept that drives hatred and conflict or can love and mutual respect among all mankind replace it?
sye • 2 years ago
So. If u really study Islam, u will find out that it promotes peace not war. Now instead of going and gaining knowledge about Islam from someone knowledgeable like Yusuf Estes, Joshua Evans etc , U will just reply back with century old arguments of ignorant people to show that the ignorant excuses are correct…..
guz • 2 years ago
Can’t Agree more,
anewman • 2 years ago
right … atheistic communist states like Russia and China have NEVER killed anyone!! [roll eyes]
Navin Kumar • 1 year ago
Putin is a Christian and China has an official religion confucianism, next .
Sigh • 2 years ago
The world without religion would be just as violent because human beings are violent. If people within the same religion can kill each other, and as those above me mention, communists with no religion can kill millions, we would find reasons to kill each other. Religion –only when institutionalized or proselytized–facilitates, masks, and helps humans process their violent actions by using religion as a justification (in other words, they believe I can kill and God will forgive me because God is on my side, they are evil, or this was necessary). In reality, I don’t think any religion condones violence to the extent we have today…but the fact that we still live in tribes and perceive humans on the other side of every national border as different from ourselves is why we will always have war, regardless of religion’s presence.
Hasan • 2 years ago
Religion by itself can’t do much. Its just some text in some book. Its the individual who reads the text and understands it according to his/her experience, culture and intellect. Reading the same book, some people see the reason to be just, humble, disciplined, and spiritual and some people find a pretext to kill. If these books are gone, the same people who need a pretext to kill will find some other pretext.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
eid mubarak to my muslim brothers and sisters. Today is a day that we have cellibrated because of the pilgramage that the guests of Allah have performed that is not a very easy task to do. But because of their sicerity and devotion to their task, Allah has erased all their sins and they will return to their families as new born babies, free of sin.
bluedem • 2 years ago
I don’t. Believe in any religion. religion is man made,God is not.
newzbug • 2 years ago
so you are an agnostic?
Americana • 2 years ago
Hello,
I am an Atheist. Religion and the belief of god(s) are all manmade.
ManWIthAnswers • 2 years ago
your a Deist not a agnostic. Agnostics arent sure if there is a god or not so they focus on being good people and hope that will get them into paradise if god happens to exist
bluedem • 2 years ago
No religion is from God,All are man made to control people.
newzbug • 2 years ago
Religions are man made yes, but not to control. I think it is to offer comfort in times of stress, loss, confusion, etc.
Hamid • 2 years ago
Intellectual? Scientific? Are you saying that it is impossible to be religious and intellectual at the same time?
Sultan • 2 years ago
Both Christianity, and Islam advocate for peace, but it is ethnic/racial difference are the rout cause, or people just use religion as a tool to gain power. Either way, religion is not the reason their are problems in the world.
John Latard • 2 years ago
Great Article for school research. Thank you.
Curious George • 2 years ago
How many of those are so afraid, they identify as Muslim lest they suffer retaliation? It wouldn’t surprise me if the numbers were over 50 per cent.
kamil abdi kamil • 2 years ago
I am very proud to see that number of Muslims increased day by day because it is the only acceptable religion by Allah and it will dominate all the other religions and Allah said in his holly Qur’an that the this religion will shine over the other religions in the world although the unbelievers hate this. There is only one God who deserve to worship only him and Jesus was a prophet and messenger of God like other previous prophets and prophet Mohamed (PPUH) was the last prophet in all mankind
PT • 1 year ago
Proof please!
johndavid • 2 years ago
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. You do not have to fear judgement day if you are a Christian because Christ died for your sins. Jesus paid the price. It is all about love and not fear. I understand that politically and culturally it is difficult to convert from Islam to Chistianity because some of you do not have the freedom to choose. We love you and pray for you.
James 2:19 – Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
1 Timothy 2:5 – For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
GarryMc • 2 years ago
Blah Blah Blah Blah.
Have a mind of your own?
The Bible stool most of its ideas and stories from the Persians, Jews and Egyptians, so don’t give me this rubbish.
sye • 2 years ago
So, if u read bible without a biased opinion U will realize that its written that Jesuz was praying to God that he does not want Crucifixion. Second, infront of the roman Judges e refused that he claimed that he is Son of God or King of Jews. Don’t come up with implied explanation – Pilate wanted to release him because he was convinced that Jesus never made such claims.
When we read christian history it is documented by christians that Trinity was introduced in 325AD @ council of Nicaea. After which, Any person believing in Jesus
as prophet was put to death.
Why believe in something introduced in religion by Constantine. I prefer to believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) as the ritcheous prophet of God as it is mentioned in bible at several places. Who is Allah – read bible in Arabic & u will find out that it is written that Jesus (peace be upon him)was praying to Allah.
Hope u will think with unbiased mind & read old testament, new testament & final Quran
Philip • 2 years ago
Sorry Sye your comment is completely inaccurate.
Firstly I’m afraid you have not read the whole bible properly because otherwise you would know that when Jesus says “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?”, He is quoting from Psalm 22 (verse 1 in the English versions).
Jesus quoted Psalm 22 on the cross to draw attention to it and the fact he was fulfilling it there on the cross. This is not implied! Read it and see!!
Psalm 22 was written 1000 years before Christ was born.
This is important to understand, because Psalm 22 is a prophecy of Jesus’ crucifixion.
The rejection of the Messiah by the people (v.6), the insults they hurled at Him on the cross (vv.7-8 – compare with Matt.27:38-43), the pain of the crucifixion (vv.14-15), the piercing of His hands and feet (v.16), the dividing up of His clothing by lot (v.18) are just some of the more obvious parallels this Psalm prophesises.
Jesus knew exactly what was going to happen to Him because he understood this Psalm and how it applied to His death on our behalf (cf. Matt.20:18-19). By quoting Psalm 22, our Lord makes this clear, and makes it clear to all who would later hear these words of His that He was well aware that He would have to die on our behalf in order to save us – for this reason He came into the world (Jn.3:16-17).
Jesus was supremely confident of the Father’s ultimate deliverance of Him through the resurrection of His body before it had even seen decay (Ps.16; cf. Act 2:24-31), for the second half of Psalm 22 is a hymn of victory (vv.22-31). These words, therefore, were spoken entirely for our benefit, that we might know that Jesus was delivered over through the will of God (Matt.20:28), willing accepted this mission for our sake (Matt.26:42), and had complete and unbreakable faith in the deliverance that awaited Him. Jesus said these words so we might believe in Him and might emulate His faith and confidence in God’s deliverance even in the most terrible of circumstances.
For if God delivered over His own Son to death that we might live, how would He not then give us everything (Rom.8:32)?
He is not asking for an answer or an explanation of what has happened. Rather these words are an explanation for us: “Do you want to know why God allowed Me to be crucified? It was to save you!” This interpretation is confirmed by Jesus final statement on the cross which comes almost immediately after the Psalm 22:1 quote and is recorded in Luke 23:46: “Father, into Thy hands I commit my spirit”. This is also a quote from the Psalms, Psalm 31:5, to be precise, and is a statement not only of Jesus’ impending departure from life, but a statement of victorious trust in the One in whom He trusted, the One He knew would shortly deliver His humanity through resurrection.
Lets move on to the first council of Nicacea. This was indeed the first ecumenical council of the church but again you are mistaken about the purpose of the meeting.
The two opposing factions one of which propoted Arianism and one which was against it both believed that Jesus was the son of God.
The only difference was what it meant for Jesus to be God’s son. What was indisputable though was their common agreement that Jesus was the son of God.
ps I’m not sure why the council concerns you as it was a question of belief and a matter of opinion then as it is now??
Hope you and your unbiased mind read the bible again Sye:). God Bless.
Truth • 2 years ago
It our faith to believe in all the scripture that has been sent by Allah and we cannot deny that as it is written in Quran the final scripture that Allah did sent the book before to their respective people in their own language, but we believe in original scriptures and not the corrupted one, which people changed the meaning as per their likeness.
john • 2 years ago
Jesus is the son of God. Not a prophet.
nadeem • 2 years ago
ALLAH IS ONE AND MUHAMMAD PBUH IS THE LAST PROPHET OF ALLAH.CHRISTIAN AND MUSLIM GOD IS SAME BUT IDEA IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE MOHAMMAD AND JESUS ARE PROPHETS BUT NOW LAST PROPHET IS MOHAMMAD PBUH SO I INVITE TO ALL PEOPLE TO STUDY THE ISLAM THEN AFTER DECIDE.THANKS
shanawaz • 2 years ago
ISLAMIC CONCEPT OF GOD IN HINDU SCRIPTURES .
* Qur’an: “Say: He is Allah, The ONE and ONLY. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.” [Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]
CONCEPT OF TAUHEED (WORSHIP OF ONE GOD “ALONE”) IN HINDU SCRIPTURES
* Hindu Scriptures: “I am the goal of life, the LORD and support of all, the inner witness, the abode of all. I am the only refuge, the ONE true friend; I am the beginning, the staying, and the end of creation; I am the womb and the eternal seed. I am heat; I give and withhold the rain. I am immortality and I am death; I am what is and what is not”[Bhagavad Gita 9:18-19]
* Hindu Scriptures: ” O friends, do not worship ANYBODY but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him ALONE.”[Rigveda 8:1:1]
* Hindu Scriptures: “He is ONE ONLY without a second.” [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]
* Hindu Scriptures: “There is only ONE God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit.”[Brahma Sutra]
Qur’an: “No vision can grasp Him But His grasps is over all vision: He is Above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things.” [Al-Qur’an 6:103]
* Qur’an: “There is nothing whatever like unto Him.”[Al-Qur’an 42:11]
CONCEPT OF UNSEEN GOD IN HINDU SCRIPTURES
* Hindu Scriptures: “There is no likeness of Him.” [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]
* Hindu Scriptures: “His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.” [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]
* Hindu Scriptures: “That which cannot be seen by the eyes, but by which the eyes see, [Kena Upanishad]
* Hindu Scriptures: “The Formless Supreme Spirit that pervades the universe can have no material representation, likeness or image.” — (Yajur Veda 32:3.)
* Hindu Scriptures: “He is bodiless and pure.” [Yajurveda 40:8]
Hindu Scriptures: “They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti — the material cause of the world — in place of the All-pervading God, but those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time” (Yajur Veda 40:9.)
GarryMc • 2 years ago
Blah Blah Blah.
The modern world has greater men and women, infinitely wiser than dogmatic religious texts. Start reading people in the C20 and C21 centuries for real issues, real dilemmas, deeper thoughts. Try Dickens, Sartre, Mandela, Russell, …the list goes on.
shanawaz • 2 years ago
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:
Al-Qur’an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
“And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, ‘O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.’ But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, ‘This is evident sorcery!’ ”
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.
1.
John chapter 14 verse 16:
“And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever.”
2.
Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
“But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.”
3.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
“Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you”.
“Ahmed” or “Muhammad” meaning “the one who praises” or “the praised one” is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word ‘Comforter’ is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me”.
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.
Alex. • 2 years ago
All the quotations you have quoted Shanawz DO refer to the Holy Spirit.
Jesus was talking about the holy spirit coming in a new and different way.
ALL Christians believe the comforter in your passages is the Holy Spirit.
To suggest anything else wouldn’t make any sense at all!! Given that the theme of the holy spirit runs throught the bible.
The bible is very clear on this! Allow me to explain.
The holy spirit WAS present in the old testament.
However in the old testament the holy spirit came “upon” people. He did not live inside them. He did not come “in” them and He did not always remain with them.
King David understood this when he asked God to not remove the Holy Spirit from him.
Samuel 16:13-14 we are told that the Holy Spirit came “mightily upon” King David, and then later in Psalms 51:11 David asks God to not remove the Holy Spirit from him. The Holy Spirit came “upon” people, but He did not remain with them.
(Also explains the conception of Elizabeth in the new testament etc).
2) HOLY SPIRIT WAS PRESENT DURING LIFE OF JESUS- We do see in the new testament that the Holy Spirit was also present during Jesus’ ministry, and helped Him perform miracles, and cast out demons.
Example of this-
Luke 3:22- and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “Thou art My beloved Son, in Thee I am well-pleased.
Luke 4:1- And Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led about by the Spirit in the wilderness .
Acts 10:38- You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil; for God was with Him.
So yes Jesus depended on the power of the Holy Spirit to do the ministry.
Jesus is therefore our example of human dependence on the Holy Spirit.
Now the key point of your question
What did Jesus mean that the Holy Spirit would be coming, if in fact He was already present?
JESUS WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT COMING IN A NEW AND DIFFERENT WAY. WITH THE START OF PENTECOST THE HOLY SPIRIT STARTED LIVING INSIDE THOSE WHO BELIEVED IN GOD (Acts 2:14-21_
This was predicted in the old testament according to Acts 2:14-21 and it happened on the day of Pentecost (Acts. 2:1-13).
Ephesians 1:13-14- In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation – having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance.
Key phrase here is HOLY SPIRIT OF PROMISE- this means that the holy spirit is coming in a new and different way. A promise can obviously not be something that is already present can it or he wouldn’t need to promise it.
This promise of a NEW type of HOLY SPIRIT is again outlined in the new testament.
Acts 2:33- Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear. Acts 2:33
Galatians 3:14-in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
The Holy Spirit would not only live in Jews but in Gentiles too! He lives inside of all believers, starting with Pentecost and He never leaves (Ephesians 1:13-14).
Therefore the proof or guarantee that one is a Christian is that he/she is being led by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is essential to them being a Christian. Hence it really has to be their comforter
This is summed up by Romans 8:13-14- for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
Therefore it is plainly obvious to anyone who has read the bible that the comforter being referred to that guides people through life is the Holy Spirit. The same holy spirit that is referred to contstantly through the bible.
On a final note to try and suggest that Mohammed was somehow mentioned by Jesus was ridiculous. As Christians Mohammed has absolutely no significance or relevance to us. He does not appera in the bible in anyway shape or form.
His teachings and the life he led are the polar opposite of what was taught by Jesus. God Bless.
Ghania • 2 years ago
You have taken the word of God and misinterpreted it… Islam deals in logic because God tells us to always strive for more knowledge. The concept of a “holly spirit” has no bases
shanawaz • 2 years ago
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
“Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem.”
“His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem.”
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as “altogether lovely”, but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
The square building in Makkah that all muslim’s from across the world are facing to was built by Abraham & his son Ismail, & we are not worshipping that building but facing towards it from all 4cornrs of the world to create unity. He was ordered by Allah to build it for a group of people that wil come which is the muslim’s.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
so what you are saying is that you have a connection with all prophets before jesus. Sure we believe in al prophets and their followers including the holy books that were sent down to them to preach, but ultimately we follow our beloved prophet(s.a.w.) and even Ebrahim (Abraham) is also part of the muslim’s life.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
You may be confused or think i am mad with what i’m saying now, bt islam was the first & proberbly the only true religion. The reason i am saying this is because Islam means ‘submission to the will of Allah(God)’ and submitting to God’s will is exactly what the prophets & their followers did. Judaisism is named after someone that the jews believed in as well as christianity named after christ. But listen to the word Islam, unique in the way to submit to the one & only God who has no partners, the King of all kings. Nothing & nobody is equal to Him. Allah hu akbar(Allah
(God) is the greatest). Islam was since the beginning of life but it kind of evolved by God’s will. Muslims of today are performing five times daily prayers (called Salaat) that is compulsary & that same prayers was performed by all the prophets including Jesus.
llowwe • 2 years ago
How fools that argument..you believed in a man that comes after 600 before christ . And doesnt know or have any connection of any of the apostles of jesus.. And then start preaching that jesus is just a mere rasol..what a horific claim…read the history…
GarryMc • 2 years ago
It’s all too long ago. Dogma dogma dogma.
All religious institutions are businesses and property managers. If it’s in the US, they are also tax avoiders.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
Ther is no right or wrong jurisprudence but we must repect the teachings of these great spiritual leaders. Islam is built on 5 pillars & all 4 schools of thought are fulfilling them, bt the differences comes with small things and not all small things. As for shia & sunni, sunni’s are the ones following the all the teachings & way of life of our holy prophet Muhammad(S.A.W.) may peace and blessing be bestowed apon him, & the shia’s are known as the extremists. Islam is not extreme, but moderate. I have heard that the extremist wil enter jahannam(hell) & as far as I know there are a larger persentage of sunni’s than shia’s.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
I may be wrong but what you’re saying seems to me that you don’t believe in God or you are confused. People has been given the gift of choice, but it is the one that make the right choice who wil be successful. You can’t expect to choose what you want to do if it is against the law of God. For example sleeping together before marriage is a sin, yet people are doing it because of choice. Homosexuallity is a sin but people are leaglizing homo marriages in holy places(churches). These thing are happening because of choises but it does not stop you from making the right choise.
Brien • 2 years ago
These comments are all erroneous in their logic and rhetoric based on proper ethical modes of discourse in philosophy.
You are all making the presumption that your religions actually do have a basis in fact. This is the fallacy of presumption.
You must prove your claims of truth first before you can expect credibility in your opinions, otherwise they remain opinions and cannot even be considered theories.
You are presuming that your various ‘prophets’, by definition, are ‘divinely’ inspired. This is a fine concept for individuals to believe as long as those individuals do not progress to the stage where they feel the need, or duty, to coerce or demand that others obey or submit to their varied beliefs.
You are debating which sect or cult of your religions is the correct one in order to not go to your hells.
KL • 2 years ago
What jurisprudence of Islam is correct – Hannaffi, Salafi, Maiki, or Safi? How about Sunni versus Shia – which are the apostates? Which Shia, twelve’s or seveners, are appostates? Which ones are appostates and which are righteous? It says in the Holy Koran apostates will suffer the worst punishment of hell then anyone else and should be killed – so which 75% Muslims should be killed by which of the 25% righteous Muslims? See the problem.
GarryMc • 2 years ago
Christianity has the same problem – credibility, irrationality, dogmatic assertions, and belief in superstitions. I wouldn’t want to be part of any of these qualities.
The modern age is about JUSTICE, EQUALITY, LIBERTY and DEMOCRACY. None of these are prominent in the bible. And for centuries, religious authorities have supported kings and dictators, and collected the rewards in property and gold. FACTS.
Antonio Dipino • 2 years ago
I would be interested in finding the statistic of Muslims that dont actually know how to read at all and are being guided by government funded Mosques. It is clear that church and state are working together in the European states, along with the underground and variety of cartels.
Ghania • 2 years ago
Muslims that don’t know how to read… What age do u think we are living in… I would recommend going to the Middle East before you open your mouth… It holds some of the riches countries in the world after all and believe me they r well educated
rualobo • 2 years ago
What’s really sad is that islam is not progressive, the people may be, but the religion is not.
Out of the three religions that came out of the middle east, considering that they are very close in their beliefs, islam is the newest. Before the onset of the three, the world was ok, people had choices, who they wanted to be, what they wanted to be. Along came the three and the you no longer had choices, you either did their way or you died. That’s what’s wrong with the three, no freedom.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
Since the beginning of life on earth since Adam & Eve(as christians know them) had been bannished from paradise, prophets were sent to groups of people, & every time they went astray after a few years another prophet were sent to either make them remember Allah or to deliver new message. People either stayed with the preachings of their old prophet or did not eccept at all & as usual a small group eccepted.The same way Allah has send Jesus to the jews & they did not eccept him & stayed with the preachings of their last prophet that they believe in, the same way christians rejects the peachings of our beloved prophet Muhammed(may peace be with him) & stick to the gospil that Jesus use to preach.
The reason I say Allah is because thats the most glorious name to call Him by. He is the same God that christians believe in unless they believe that Jesus(may peace be with him) is God who came down in the form of man, which lots of christians believe, then we are not talking about the same God.
If there’s anyone who can correct me where i’ve said something wrong by mistake then feel free to do so but i hope my ecplination is clear enough.
May Allah have mercy on us all
Insha-Allah
rualobo • 2 years ago
“Since the beginning of life on earth”
You do mean when life first started on this ball of earth, right? When animals were living in sin because there were no humans yet.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
there are no sin for animals nor for them punnishment on the day of judgement, but defnitely punnishment for humans who act like animals.
Lali • 2 years ago
I’ve read through the comments…I am a proud Christian. I do not judge any other religion…I do judge our behavior as humans. All the killings of people because of religion or ethnicity cleansing…I know whatever God you believe in…not acceptable. As for me being a Westerner, I am not afraid of Allah’s rules, I have my God’s rules to follow.
Haq • 2 years ago
Allah is god. The Christian Jewish and Muslim God is the same God. Just like Christians have killed in the name of God so do many ignorant others
rualobo • 2 years ago
Abraham must be proud!
Lisa Everett • 2 years ago
That is totally wrong…the Christian God and Allah are not one in the same. God of the bible is not Allah and Allah is not the God of the bible. God the Father gives you salvation through His grace unlike Muslims who believe they must earn there place in heaven but never know if they have done enough deeds to get to heaven. God sacrificed Jesus his son for our sins. All you must do is believe and have faith to be saved by His grace. You know that you are saved immediately. You feel it in your heart. Christians know that when you are saved you desire to walk in the light of God’s love. Peace and love not hate. May God the Father bless each and every one of you. He loves you.
Ghania • 2 years ago
Everything worth having you have to work for. That is common sense… And that is why in Islam you have to work to get to heaven… Use your head, God gave you a brain for a reason … Oh and yes it is the same God because there is only one God ( the Jewish, Christen and Muslim God is ONE… They are just called different things in different languages… God in English, Allah in Arabic and YHVH in Hebrew
Zaskia • 1 year ago
You think that “never know if you do enough good deeds to be in heaven” is a drawback?
Perhaps we could think about school exam, or an interview to get a job, for example. In that situation, sometimes, feeling that we don’t know if we learn enough, if we worthy enough..is an advantage, right? That way, we’re motivated to do our best. Not just believing blindly that we will be accepted or pass the exam without doing anything.
The difference is just we get to know the ‘exam’ result in the after life, not in the present life. That way we keep striving to do good deeds the whole of our lives.
And the idea also to encourage us to continously learn how to discern a “seemingly” good deeds from the true good deeds. If someone misinterpret wrong deeds as good, it is one’s fault for perhaps not learning enough, but clearly the wrong deeds is not the essence of the teaching.
To judge something, you need to know thoroughly every minute aspect of the thing. That’s a law. If you want to judge Islam, please learn thoroughly about it.
Just my opinion..
zahrial achmad • 2 years ago
ehm,even your god have fear of Allah.
Ismail Olaide • 2 years ago
To be a right person you must follow the right relegion.be wise
Angloperuano • 2 years ago
God gave wonderful and great gifts to man from creation on.
And every man from Adam through Abraham and Isaac and David,
And Malachi
All blessed indeed,
Sinned greatly against God
And so, our gift from God to man is to give to man
His Son indeed who would offer Himself as the ultimate sacrifice
For our sake,
Taking our sins off each of us, taking them onto Himself.
That was His sacrifice for us.
All we have to do is to accept Jesus in our lives and live with Him
In the rest of our lives and through eternity.
_________________
For God so loved the world
That He gave His one and only
Son, that whoever believes in
Him shall not perish but
Have eternal live.
John 3:16
For it is by God’s grace
That you have been saved,
-And this not from yourselves, It is the
Gift of God.
Ephesians 2:8
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
westerners are afraid of Allah’s rules thats why they came up with their own to have control over the world. This is the work of shaytaan and they are following him. The comming of Dajjal(anti-christ) is closer than we think
mehrour • 2 years ago
With all respect,however i don”t agree.According to my estimation there are approxm.
2.1 up to 2.3 billion muslim in the world.Don’t forget a big number of muslim whom
i called the silence group or those who change their name because of the community
they are living to protect their live and economic busibess performance as well.
Muslim are far more tolerance than other religion because look how many people with
other religion background are free in doing business in middle-east such as Dubai
and more countries in the middle east.However,the gunners in the politic in the western world are having an secret agenda to divide the muslims in the world otherwise the
power of muslim will be a huge competition if they alloud the muslim in the world to unite.
Regrettably,we muslim do not understand this!!!!!
najruddin india • 2 years ago
You say that islam is a false releasion ,if you are a christian your god is hajrat issa alisalam ,are you read about them he accepted islam in last time then why are you saying islam is false are you totaly rong reply soon
1 • 2 years ago
Islam is the only religion which is correct….
Chris • 2 years ago
Hahahahahaha! You’re funny!
GarryMc • 2 years ago
Plain dogma. There is no tolerance in your statement.
Wars start with dogma.
anonymous • 12 months ago
Please, is dogma the only word in your vocabulary. You must’ve used it 100 times over in this thread only, synonyms are a thing ya know.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
to make a statement like that is a
slap in jesus’s face because, why
would he die for the sins of people
if they are continueinng to commit
sin, sleeping around with different
partners, doing all sorts of things against his preaching. If christians
make that statement it sounds like
they can do what ever they want
and not getting punnished and
Jesus(may pease be with him) , will
be punnished for mankind. On the day of judgement each &
every person will be held
accountable for their own sins or
good that he/she has done. May
Allah put understanding in the
hearts & minds of all non-muslims insha-allah.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
laa ilaha illallah muhammad dur rasoolullah. Born in South Africa & proud to be muslim.
We are the only people who knows our holy book by heart. So if all the anti-muslims had to destroy all the qur’aans in the world, it wil be embedded in the muslim hearts and that just one of many beauties of Islam, Allahu akbar.
Ridwaan • 2 years ago
laa ilaha illallah muhammad dur rasoolullah. Born in South Africa & proud to be muslim.
Marc Allen • 2 years ago
Would you be able to extrapolate the figure of how many Muslim children die per year of waterborne diseases?
Allahbaksh • 2 years ago
Search the god in the light of Quraan, as this is the only book which is not modified.Quraan is truth and the truth is Quraan.
Allahbaksh • 2 years ago
Pls read The Holy Quraan with meaning,clear heart, and true intensions Insha Allah u will be enlightened and blessed.pls do not take Quraan lightly,
Christa • 2 years ago
I love reading through an article that will make men and women think. Also, many thanks for allowing me to comment!
musbahu dalhatu • 2 years ago
Hi!jesus christ had never claim divinity and many verses in the bible he ratify himself as servant of God and I quote “And about the ninth hour jesus cried with a loud voice saying “Eli, Eli lama sabachthani? That is My God My God why have u forsaken Me (mathew 27:46) The God of Abraham, isaac and jacob,the God of our fathers glofied his SERVANT jesus…(Act 3:13) But for that day and hour nor one knows,not even the Angels in heaven, nor the son but only the father(mark 13:32) I can of myself do nothing.As I hear I judge;and my judgement is righteous because I do not seek my own wil but the will of my father who sent me(john 5:30) whoever recieves me, recieves not me but Him who sent me(mark9:37) And the crowd said ” this is the prophet jesus from nazareth of galilie”(mathew 21:11)
Ayodele Sopitan • 2 years ago
There was only one man who ever said he is the way, the truth and the life, that no man can come to the father except through him. If one critically analyses the circumstances of the life of Christ, His words, sayings, teachings, deeds, miracles, death, resurrection and ascension. Except one’s mind is completely closed to the possibility that these records about the life of Jesus might just happen to be true, then it is easy to see that no man in the history of mankind comes even cl
ose to being comparable with the person of Jesus as a leader. The fact that today, well over two thousand years since He arose, He still clearly has the largest followers of any
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
Dont blame to my perfect and true religion ISLAM…. 1400 years ago every religion accepted that ISLAM IS TRUTH AND TRUTH NEVER HIDE AT ALL….But today some western countries always spending money for blame to ISLAM….
EVERY YEAR THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ACCEPTED TO ISLAM BECAUSE THEY NOW UNDERSTOOD THAT JESUS IS NOT A GOD AT ALL…..BIBLE HAS BEEN MODIFIED FROM BEFORE 1200 YEARS BY A GROUP OF CHURCH FATHERS…..IT IS A FALSE BOOK AND ALL TRUE INFORMATION OF JESUS HAS BEEN MODIFIED..IN THE FIRST PAGE OF BIBLE JESUS SAYS ..I AM NOT A GOD AT ALL. I AM NEITHER A GOD NOR A SON OF GOD….I AM A PROPHET OF ISLAM AND GOD ALLAHA SEND ME IN THIS EARTH FOR REMOVE SINS FROM HUMAN HEARTS…NO ONE IN THIS WORLD WHO HAVE SEEN TO GOD…..IF ANY ONE TELLING I HAVE SEEN TO GOD SO HE IS TELLING LIE……(This was a first message of JESUS in Bible but it has been stolen and imaginary modified by church fathers)
Donna • 2 years ago
You can print whatever your eternity can afford. Jesus Christ is King of Kings. Lord of Lords. God bless you!
Leanne Watkins Holifield • 2 years ago
Amen!
Shaikh Sabir Hussain • 2 years ago
I am an INDIAN and i proud that in India muslim population is growing very fast.. I am giving an example that in my village muslim houses were arond 1200 to 1500 in the year 1998 and i have seen it. But in the year 2014 muslim houses are nearly 5000 to 6000. This is the prove that muslim population is growing very fast in INDIA. Not only in my village but also all over the INDIA muslim population growing rapidly. No doubt in the future after 80 years muslim population will be nearly 65% in India and then a muslim can become a prime minister of INDIA……….INSA ALLAHA
patriot • 2 years ago
well i think that this increase in population of Muslims all over the country is due to Bangladeshi rag pickers.You should know one thing that Muslim population growth rate is also decreasing due to more and more numbers of our Muslim brothers are getting educated today according to 2011 census,this rate is even higher that non Muslims.I don’t know that what are you proud of so much bcoz your population is only 14.2% according to the 2011 census in which more than 2% population is of Bangladeshi rag pickers about whom our respected prime minister had already told that he will deport them all back to their country by 2015 and will give Indian nationality 50 million non Muslims living in Pakistan and Bangladesh by 2016,mark my words he quoted this statement during his election campaign in Assam and if this will happen then your population will go down to mere 9% and after 80 years with this decreasing trend your population will go down to mere 6.5% of the total population. At last I want to say that unlike you 90% of our Indian muslim brothers love their country like any thing and 155 million strong Indian muslim are ready to defend their country
SUNIL • 2 years ago
DOESN’T MATTER HOW OUR POPULATION HAS GROWTH. WE SHOULDN’T BE PROUD OF IT. OUR PEOPLE WILL REMAIN HUNGRY WITHOUT WESTERN SUPPORT OR BUSINESS. SO, STOP MAKING MESS IN INDIA AND BUILDING FOE TO OUTSIDER.
1 • 2 years ago
if every one start following islam[not muslim] then all problems will be solved.
SDM. Shayan • 2 years ago
Hi
Like me millions of Muslim around the world believes many oral traditions of Islam, without any genuine knowledge of the Quran and traditions. Jesus is God or not that is in the Bible the scripture of the Jews and Christians.
As for me we should read all the books which has been given by God to mankind through the Prophets. Jews and Christians prophets and their Rabbis were the highly qualified people not like our Prophet Muhammad (PUH) the most illiterate one. All the sunni traditional books were written between 200-230, years later after the death of our Prophet. Except the Shiite traditional books which are genuine and reliable. dshayan65@hotmail.com
1 • 2 years ago
But he is the mail for whom this entire word is created and all prophet what to become his follower instead of becoming prophet
anupam • 2 years ago
From mahommad ghori till Aurangzeb it was impossible for India to isamize just dream
sameer • 2 years ago
Hi All,
Life is created by universe and not just by earth. We have cosmo powers entering earth every time. Who is the best in religion is foolishness which we talk.
Islam is originated from one person and they are manipulated when we ask them intelligent questions like why your old prophets didnt spread islam.
See we say religion but Hinduism , christianty , Islamism all are way of life to live in your society.
We should stay seperatly instead because for development and better life style multiple religion may kill each other.
I am a hindu and i love way of life in christian. They are peaceful people. We see lot many scientist and economist from christian and hindu community.
Hope we didnt kill animals to feed our stomach untill unless we can kill our child and can eat for hunger. If we agree to eat of our own child than we can eat any animal.
All animals have some power and the meat enters our body with curse before it dies it gives us. We human being are very selfish especially islamic religion is worst by its mind set on spreading its religion on false comments.
musbahu dalhatu • 2 years ago
This berbaric comment reach its sheer summit per se,your perspective is sentimental and ridiculous no wonder bcos what trigger u to comprehend islam in such way is your shallow knowledge about the religion, mark you that islam was not initiated by our glorious prophet but its a legacy of all prophet before him,so u better commit u self to learn more about it before using myopic sight to denounce it. islam shouldn’t be jeopadize by the deeds of its wrongdoers.
musbahu dalhatu • 2 years ago
Hello once again, can u politely enummurate this so called intelligent questions pose to muslims which are unanswerable
musbahu dalhatu • 2 years ago
Islam is fantastic,superb,outstanding,harmonious,and tranquil ever existing religion in the globe. In addition it is the salient solution to our anarchiac and chaotic world
GarryMc • 2 years ago
What?
Christian and Muslims have been killing people for century after century.
I excuse neither. FACTS are my guide, not dogma. SCIENCE is superior to religion. In terms of values, LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY, DEMOCRACY and JUSTICE are my best guide to happiness and prosperity.
With these modern values- yes, values- you do not need religion.
Tom • 2 years ago
Jesus is the right path. I have heard many say their life is better with Jesus.
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
JESUS SAYS IN HIS LIFE………I am not a god at all…I am neither a god nor a son of god. Because god have nothing any childs..God is alonw and creator of universe. JESUS obey to God ALLAHA who is supreme power and generator of world.
JESUS SAYS…..if someone obey me as a god so it is his big mistake. Avoid this bad practice and know your true god who is only ALLAHA.
Sharma • 2 years ago
Before forming of earth there was a god.
The God of Abhraham, isaac & Jacob.
He called himself god of israel.
He created man in his image.The jehova God created man on earth.
God chosen to Abhraham, Isaac then jecob , and god named Jacab Israel.
1) Now Israel is God chosen people you believe or not it doesn’t matter
2) Jerusalem is God chosen city you believe or not it doesn’t matter.
3) Jesus is not fleshy son of god but by word & Spirit of god.He is Son of god bcoz he created by him by his word.He is his promised not only forgiveness of sin but wash all our sin completely by his blood.His blood given for our forgiveness, redemption. Not only for salvation but destroy Satan’s work & his fortress. He Completed all work as needed for salvation for human being…
He is King of Israel, son of david, Lion of dudah, The Alfa & Omega, The beginning & End.
4) It doesn’ matter what is population of for who’s religion’s. it is in hands of god he knows how to increase & decrees.
He can decrees population by earthquake, Sunami, Virus, etc.
All is in his hand.
He just waits for his people and for whos need to turn to him from sin, from world.
Always remember god never created any religion not Islam, not Christian etc.He just given them instruction & commandments to obey and to trust him.
And Man created many religion Islam, Christianity etc.
5) God created Love, Man created Religion & War. Now days Satan deceiving people to encouraged to make war for name of god, to kill innocent people who were created in his Image.
6) I know all this thing is foolishness to you people, I know you will pass bad comments on me and it doesn’t matter to me.
7 ) Do not comments about Jesus if you don’t know about him. Read Bible at least one time to comments on Jesus.
I Don,t how you feel about Jesus, but it doesn’t matter what you feel or what you read in other book, but remember when you will die then you’ll come to know all truth about Jesus.
Jesus waiting for you.
All glory, all honor, respect to god Jehova and to his son Jesus..Amen.
God Bless You.
skiptmalu • 2 years ago
Thanks, Sharma. Finally a comment with intelligence. Thank you for commenting.
skiptmalu • 2 years ago
Sharma, I copied your comment to save to ponder later. Thx again for posting.
1 • 2 years ago
Because Jusus is the messenger of got not son of got
duwayne • 2 years ago
I see so many lost sheep here…..our Lord Jesus said love your neighbours and enemies even with those who dont share same religiouse with you pray for them,,,,,,,,,apostle Paul said there are only 3 things thay will last is,faith,hope,Love and the greatest is Love………Im proud to be Christian its the if you read the Bible you feel like you are talking to and its true yu communicate with him through his word our Bible its teaches us about love,,,,,,,Jesus said if you believe in me you will do great miracles more then I do because im going to the father and today we see lot of prophets healing sick people and casting out possesed people through the name Jesus….christianity is a relationship not religiouse relationship exist were the is Love and God is Love, glory be to God the is a way Jesus is the way Amen thank you
Grace • 2 years ago
Amen he is wonderfulm
Garfield • 2 years ago
Great article.
Muhammad Bello Omar • 2 years ago
it is pleasure to comments on this ur land scape of the global population. but if that figure of 1.6 billion is really the Muslims world population, why America and it like worries much against Islam. Why is it too disturbed to finish the Muslim. I will like to hear from ur post if u have an idea. thanks
peace • 2 years ago
Please see watch this video.
youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s
This should answer your question. America does not fear nor have hate toward peaceful Islam at all. Radical Muslims that want the destruction of western civilization are the problem and it is a problem that must be addressed. Even a small group of people can have a global, catastrophic impact on modern civilization as history has shown. The idea that Americans are anti Islam is false.
kedir mohammed • 2 years ago
islam is a great and peaceful releasion in the world
It’s give always right advice of human life
Now a day islam is the fastest releasion in the world
I proud to born in muslim releasion
accept islam you will became peaceful in your life
Sk Mainuali • 2 years ago
I love Islam
najruddin • 2 years ago
Bissmillah hirakhmani rahim
islam is a great and peaceful releasion in the world
It’s give always right advice of human life
Now a day islam is the fastest releasion in the world
I proud to born in muslim releasion
accept islam you will became peaceful in your life
najruddin • 2 years ago
The men who coment the agains of islam is wrong
Islam is always gives the massag
e of peace but
But some bad men make him unbeliveable
islam is a best releasion in the world
Don’nt say wrong about islam
I proud to born in islam releasion
Afeef Khan • 2 years ago
Alhumdulillahi-rabbil-aalameen,I think every muslim should be grateful to Almighty ALLAH for giving ISLAM and making us MUSLIM-THE GREATEST GIFT BY THE GREATEST…
Ahsanul Karim • 2 years ago
I am Muslim and I am proud of it
My old name is sathish now i am saifullah • 2 years ago
Subahanallah..all people search quran and hadis and inshaa allah all people muslim..god speck all human problem solution is quran islam is true..
rs vaid • 2 years ago
Kuran is a wrong book.i read the book
divan • 2 years ago
Sir India Muslim population is at least we are thing 20% but government say 15% which one correct please you can tell us. Thanks. Divan
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
I am telling the real truth to you Divan………Indeed muslim population in India is nearly 35% above…..Your imagine 20% and 15% is false….You can take a suitable example of Indian census. I have seen that if a muslim family have 8 to 9 members but in population counting they are giving only 2-3 members name….Rest are disappeared and not in population counting names…OK…..It does not mean that rest are not INDIAN and they can not take advantages of country…..So in the internet which you are seen it is false only …Nothing else……The truth is that muslim population in India is 35% above no doubt.
Zied masmoudi • 2 years ago
The chart does not show north Africa WTF!!!
Raymond Justus • 2 years ago
Name a religion other than Islam that commands its followers to kill non believers if they fail to convert to Islam.
Response • 2 years ago
Hmm. I’m Muslim, I know the Quran and teachings of Islam very well. This statement is way out of context. Quite the contrary, Islam allows for peaceful coexistence with other religions. Name another ancient religion that allows for such a modern idea!
SDM. Shayan • 2 years ago
Hey
Where do you live what do you know about Quran? Is not Quran saying about killing of the infidels, read carefully Surah Al-Baqarah. Jihad is an on going war till every human being the creed of Islam. La ila-ha illal-lah Muhammad rasul. Allah! No doubt the Word ISLAM means peace it does not means that Islam is a religion of peace. Is not Shiite and Sunnis are fight like dogs and cats? Bombing one one another Mosques in Pakistan, Iraq and even in India. Is not Quran curse the idols worshiper?
Abusaeed • 2 years ago
Dear Justus. Do you know the story of the frog in the well. I think you have misquoted, and have misunderstood the verses of the Al Quran. Every verse has its context. If you will read the Holy Quran without bias and with an open heart, then it will guide anyone to the right path.
Afeef Khan • 2 years ago
THE APPROPRIATE AND UNBIASED ANSWER..
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
If ISLAM order to kill others so how Israel alive today…..? No my brother you misunderstood to Islam because you have rare knowledge about Islam and its rules and regulations…ISLAM MEDE IN LOVE, BROTHERHOOD , AFFECTION , ATTACHMENT , PEACE , PROTECT TO WOMEN AND GIRLS , AND MANY MORE……….It is true that some of the Europe and American countries always tried to blame ISLAM …Because they are fearing because ISLAM grows very fast in entire world..Every year nearly 2000 Americans are converted into ISLAM…
Abraham • 2 years ago
Islam is a peaceful religion which contains the information abt all the prophets before Mohammad (pbuh) having true stories with a great respect. Islam teaches to respect all the prophets. Others should learn the teachings of Quran first with a good understanding then I’m sure they won’t ask these kind of nonsense questions.
Human • 2 years ago
People… I believe the god is you…
As you were born without name and someone (your loved one) give you the name.. same is god… unborned and undefined.. we human have given him/her (who knows m/f) different – different names..
I just want to say… follow whatever religion but spread peace and happiness…
AND we all are very small to describe that undiscribale god.
khursid alam • 2 years ago
LOVE is every thing 4 me , so plz love all creatures having in this world,
Afeef Khan • 2 years ago
@KHURSHEED ALAM.
I THINK IMAAN IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS WORLD WITH LOVE(TRUE LOVE-ALLAH KI RAZA KE LIYE) AS ITS IMPORTANT COMPONANT.
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
Afeef khan you are right.
ali • 2 years ago
ALLAHU AKBAR
yrrah • 2 years ago
I agree with dave!
Dave • 2 years ago
Why are all the countries in the world that are predominantly Muslim, undesirable places to live, Muslims prefer to live in the the the countries that give their citizens more freedoms and human rights, ie Britian, then they say these countries are evil?
rizvi • 2 years ago
see Dave. the problem with using sweeping generalizations ‘…why are ALL the muslim countries’ is that it’s really easy to trip yourself up. furthermore these generalizations are typically an indication of poor understanding and are usually used by people who are ignorant, bigoted, or just flat out lack intelligence. if you used anything other than main stream media as a referrence you might know that many countries with large muslim countries are quite peaceful and great places to live (turkey, indonesia, brunei, malaysia). you’d also know there is a concerted effort in the west to demonize islamic countries. iran for instance ONLY has negative news articles concerning it. it’s achivements in science are never reported. it’s flaws are magnified and virtues swept under the rug. this is called propaganda, and people like you are the target of such propaganda. afterall, a government must make it’s people hate someone before they can go after them in war (facts: iran has not invaded a country in over two hundered years, it’s last few wars were purely defensive in nature, and it has been found to not have a nuclear weapons program…yet we choose to sanction them anyway, this could be considered illegal).
you also say that muslims ‘prefer to live in the countries that give their citizens more freedoms and human rights’. well that’s a tough argument to sell when 80 percent of the world’s muslims population live in the Asia-Pacific region and are quite happy there.
i will be the first person to say, as a muslim, that the world’s muslims have problems. but they are not due to islam it’s all geopolitics. read about the golden age of islam and what muslims are capable of. as for the radicalism and terrorism. i consider this a cancer on my religion that was partially the doing of the west (the aforementioned geopolitics) in additon to a general lack of education among modern muslims.
Ikhsan • 2 years ago
Well said rizvi, I’m I muslim myself and I live in Indonesia and I can confirm your point is absolutely true. This is a peacefull country and not an undesirable place to live at all. And I’m quite sure it’s also apllied to majority middle east countries like Iraq and syria before america bring their “democracy” there
Observer • 2 years ago
Demonic propaganda of the west and its media,Blah_blah, yet muslims in millions,love to migrate to the west and find more peace there in the west than their homes?..why?.U think,Islamic countries don’t make propagandas, demonizing the west and non-muslim countries?…This habit of playing victim , blame game and denial ism is whats wrong with many muslims..Are,all the minorities in 50 or so,Islamic countries treated equally, with the exceptions to a few countries, like Turkey, Malaysia,Dubai,etc)..Ye
Hashim • 2 years ago
the prophet said a day will come when the muslims will come in great numbers, but will be
like foam in sea
deqa • 2 years ago
Mashallah Thanks for the info really detailed (Not being sarcastic) inshallah lots more people will join our large growing religion. Jazakullah kair
Zakir • 2 years ago
I Love and I Proud to be an Muslim and Slave Of Prophet Mohammad S.A.W. One day will come and all of you will have to come in Islam before Qayamah . Please let this discussion finished off by our Muslim brothers and sister. Allah almighty may bless and forgive them.
Deqa • 2 years ago
Amen and may I start off as A.S.C I am also proudly muslim and inshallah they will
Britany Lynae • 2 years ago
I am a student at Roosevelt High School, I am doing a research paper on the Islam religion, and i was wondering if you can help me out of know someone that can help me out? Please let me know.
soldierofallah • 2 years ago
What do u need to know. If I can help, I will. If its not too late
Rabiah • 2 years ago
Hi Britany -I am a Muslim female and i live in the UK, I’ve just completed my degree and also did a big part of my Paper on the “Hijab” and Islam -I would most certainly be willing to help you out if you are still doing your paper?
🙂
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
Thanks Rabiah…..This is your good step.
Peace • 2 years ago
Hello.
I think everyone here really needs to think about what religion is actually meant to do. In my opinion, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammed, Siddhartha Guatama and so on… all had a similar goal in mind– to be happy, to spread happiness, and to live a life filled with good deeds so that by the time one dies they can look back on their lives knowing that they spread good words and peace. I think people really misuse religion. I’m not attacking Christians, I’m not attacking Muslims, I’m not attacking Hindus, or Buddhists, or Atheists. I think that everyone wants to be a good person, and I think that every religion has the capacity to teach people how to do that. That being said, historical and political context must be taken into consideration when reading translations or interpretations of ANY historical or religious text. With today’s normative political boundaries– separated from religion– christians and muslims and jews and people of all religions have the capacity to live together. This is not to say that they actually do. I believe 100% that religion, in general, has been manipulated to be a tool in war and in politics. I think that if every follower of different religions did what God actually intended them to do…. there would be a lot less conflict, and the arguments below would not be in existence. It is a waste of time to pit religious text against religious text– a more valuable use of time would be to point out the commonalities of each text because the ultimate goal is to motivate people to be good, to do good, and to die knowing that they have spread happiness and peace.
King Ibraheem • 2 years ago
Beautifully said. The Oneness of Allah is found in the oneness of the heart and the oneness of our shared humanity. Prophet Muhammad said that he came to bring good manners and perfect character. Integrity of a person is the interpretation of one’s religion, not by what they say, but by their actions.
mehrour • 2 years ago
i think you are misinterpretating the Quran or you don’t understand what you are reading.By the way the Quran is the only religion book not
a single word is changed .I myself don’t know wich bible to read
there are so many with changes made by mankind so how can i
treat the bible anylonger as God word.
I think you shouild go and speak to your concience and be honest toward yourself and mankind
joe • 2 years ago
How do you know that it has not been changed
Truth • 2 years ago
Rather than judging islam.
Look at atheist and its rising and how it is trying to destroy all religions. That is the real issue.
Very Truth • 2 years ago
For u it is better not to follow the follower but follow the faith of Islam. Don’t judge Muslim but judge what their faith is within documentation…
A Real Issue is that when a person who by birth is gentle and intelligent Goes through Islamic doctrine then He Definitely accepts it and This adds one more to Islam. Question is not that what Muslims do Question is that what Muslims follow. Honestly go through the doctrine one i.e Qur’an and Hadith understand it and then decide. Brother you definitely will like it and ultimately your real issue will be solved. You will get the answer to every question…………… Rest what Muslims do they may be wrong as being nasty humans. Keep your ego aside and try to research what exactly this religion is..
I AM HERE NOT TRYING TO MAKE YOU A MUSLIM BUT TRYING TO MAKE YOU FEEL TO LIKE ME AS A MUSLIM. YOUR RELIGION IS GREAT NO DOUBT BUT ATLEAST LOOK WHAT THIS SO CALLED BY YOU “ATHEIST” RELIGION SAYS..
THANK YOU
AND HONESTLY GOD BLESS YOU AND SHOW YOU AND ME THE RIGHT PATH
GarryMc • 2 years ago
I am an atheist.
I want you to have a personal spirituality, and leave behind religious dogma.
Of course I believe God is in your imagination only. Does that make me an enemy, or an opponent in a debate? Does that make me inhuman, or have I a soul too? Is my happiness to be hated or accepted?
Anurag Chaurasiya • 2 years ago
Hindu religion old religion.one time read Bhagwat geeta you understand who is best.
hindu • 2 years ago
no bro oldest religion was worshiped by unknowing people remember they worship every thing from snake to elephant, and from star to moon.
DJ • 2 years ago
The two oldest, contiguously practiced religions with documented histories are Jainism (originating in the Indus River Valley) and Zoroastrianism (in the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers valley) and their central traits as religions were long ago borrowed into subsequent religions near their surrounding regions.
When Anurag was talking about Hinduism as an old (perhaps “the oldest”?) religion and mentioned the Bhagavad Gita (accepted romanization), they were referencing that the Bhagavad Gita is the oldest still existent religious text.
khursid alam • 2 years ago
bro, i believe in science……… plz compare ur religion with it.
khan • 2 years ago
who is right
Siddharth Singh • 2 years ago
I too believe in Science then I compared the too & found out
11000 years ago– Hinduism gave this world
The consciousness of the double slit quantum experiment observer.
The principle of ” mind over matter”
The principle of non-violence or Ahimsa..–and vegetarianism
Tamas Rajas ( Yin-Yang ) principle , of the cosmos
The unity in diversity of more than 3000 languages out of which 2000 exist even today, Cultural forms, Government business and modern education being conducted in 26 languages..
Energy and matter is convertible E= MC2 ( formula used to end the 2nd world war with Nuclear bomb –localised in Hiroshima and Nagasaki )
( it goes further to E=T MC2 as in Vedic BRAHMASTRA, for faster than light Tesla Scalar Interferometry– formula to start and end World War 3 — AND TOTAL ANNIHILATION ). Where T is ‘delta T ‘ or change of time. When scalar beams hurtle through hyperspace the flow of time gets redirected temporarily.
That biological internet DNA which holds the intelligent force , cannot be destroyed– mentioned in Rig Veda of 5000 BC as Tvatsa double helix coiled serpents, –to hell with Darwin
Zero point field, The Akasha or Ether and Scalar waves.
The Schuman resonance of 7.83 Hz or OM which triggers quantum tunneling and opens wormholes
The Sri Yantra which contains the elusive theory of everything–which is the FRACTAL geometric design of the universe, or the universal mind.
Yoga
Vedic Nanotechnology from silver colloids for anti-viral medicine to mercury ions for flying saucers to self assembling conscious mantra triggered missiles to invisibility cloaks to waterbased homeopathy.
Multitude of Seers and sages, who have contributed to mankind.
The miraculous powers of MUDRA and Nadi channeling.
Ayurveda– the holistic medicine
Sanskrit, the worlds oldest written language– the only unambiguous computer language suitable for N-GRAM NLP and AskMSR
Mathematics of Aryabhatta in 2700 BC
Astronomy 8000 years ago
Quantum butterfly effect of a bloodless sacrifice of breaking a coconut with intention.
Tesla’s Resonance and CV Raman’s Soliton
Expanding and imploding VORTEX mercury gyroscope concept of VIMANAS.
Explanation of the Holographic nature of the universe–where every part is a whole.
Reprogramming and healing DNA blueprint with Mantras and Scalar longitudinal waves.
That matter is created by vibrations.
Resonating your pineal gland with a Black meteorite stone to speed up the 7 chakras .
The morphogenetic field of consciousness– the most important thing on this planet–the brahmAn.
The inwards BINDU singularity, balancing the outwards big-bang via Tamas-Rajas or Yin-Yang ( Sri yantra centre spot ). World’s oldest architecture based on Sri Yantra vaastu in the form of majestic temples and Egyptian pyramids .
Siddharth Singh • 2 years ago
Sanatan Dharam or Hinduism is indeed the oldest religion..Jainism is the second oldest
ajitvadakayil.blogspot.in/2011/0…
Abdullah • 2 years ago
This will increase exponentially the number you see Allah’s leave. Justice and tolerance of Muslims all over the world will be besieged. Allah bless the Muslims, non-Muslims and give guidance.
ilyas • 2 years ago
who is jeses? Am only believes nd praying for jeses’s father(god(allah))
David • 2 years ago
Muhammad led by the sword, spread Islam by the sword, and set the example for the future. Study history. Not saying Muslims are not nice people but when some say eventually we will all be Muslims that doesn’t have a good ring to it in a country that acknowledges one’s freedom to practice of their choice. Moreover, the Bible remains the largest selling book in the world every year spreading the Good News of love and forgiveness.
Toronto • 2 years ago
Hi David,
Some might have been spread by the sword, so have been in Christianity. What about the converts nowadays, are they being converted by the sword in the western countries. It’s just a few criminals who hijack Islam and use their political/Islam for their crime.
Islam by definition means surrender and submission only to the one true creator. A Muslim by definition means one who surrenders and submits to the laws of God.
My kids have been in Catholic Schools all their lives and they converted to Islam. I would highly recommend to study Islam and you will see. Praying a few times a day will bring love and peace.
K Jensen • 2 years ago
I will pray for you and your family.
nusrat noor • 2 years ago
a very good answer, brother
Siddharth Singh • 2 years ago
Problem starts when Islam says ONLY ALLAH IS TRUE REST ARE FALSE..& thank you for accepting that ISLAM was spread by sword..Converted Muslims in Indian Sub continent(50 cr) are happy about it
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
Dear Siddharth Singh…If ISLAM says ONLY ALLAHA IS TRUE AND REST ARE FALSE…..It is 100% true..no doubt.
Are you understand there are many gods in this universe ? Perhaps you dont know Bible has been modify form 1200 years ago. Many truth has been disappeared from bible….One major truth modified by church fathers which was in the first page in Bible….Are you want to know what was written in the first page of bible ?
so listen carefully….In the first page of Bible JESUS SAYS…….I AM NOT A GOD AT ALL..I AM ONLY A PROPHET OF ISLAM AND GOD ALLAHA SENT ME IN THIS WORLD FOR REMOVE SINS . But this statement of JESUS has been modified and Bible is a false book today without proper message of JESUS.
Teric • 2 years ago
Dear David,
There was, and will never be a compulsion for anyone to become muslim, according to Islam and as said by the Allah in Quran that “There is No Compulsion in Religion”, in other words everyone is free to choose their religion. However, the religion of state must be Islam, which means that the law given by Allah must be implemented even with force if required. Why?, because the Creator knows His creation and gave them the law which is best for them and no human being can bring the law better than the Creator’s.
Shafy • 2 years ago
Dear David,
Do you know that the Prophet Muhammad is Honored by the U.S. Supreme Court as one of the greatest lawgivers of the world?
Did you know that the Qur’an was the first to give equality to both women and men?
Did you know that Muhammad gave an African-American Slave equal rights?
Muhammad was sent as a mercy for humankind.
Our Lord is a Beloved Lord, a Merciful Lord.
parmar • 2 years ago
Shafy then y in islam women are not allowed to marry four person at a time. ….when their is equal rights to both.
Sultan • 2 years ago
With woman you won’t be able to know the father if she has a baby, and equal rights does not mean the exact same things because woman and men are physiologically and physically different.
Rabiah • 2 years ago
The crusades.
Afeef Khan • 2 years ago
EVENTHOUGH BIBLE MAY BE THE LARGEST SELLING BOOK…BUT PLEASE REPLY ME WHY IT IS NOT TURNING OUT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT THAN HOLY QURAN.THE HOLY QURAN IS THE MOST INFLUENTIAL RELIGIOUS BOOK MAKING ISLAM THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION.
B • 1 year ago
Islamic virus spreading on in your sence growing very fast coz in Islam says every child so called Allah’s gift so keep producing them without any barrier not allowed to use condom to keep population balanced in my view women are child producing machine then if you are intelligent enough can think which religion will grow faster???
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
By the SWORD you can fear to peoples and forcefully you can convert to peoples…
But question is that can you change peoples heart by sword ? NEVER.. So ISLAM spread by love , attachment , brotherhood , affection , charity , protection to women and girls. You can take example In America everyday 1000 above rapes happend against girls. Because ISLAM is not their properly. But good news that everyday AMERICAN PEOPLES ARE CONVERTED INTO ISLAM AS PER THEIR OWN WILL NOT BY SWORD…
ISLAM spread by love not by SWORD….
james • 2 years ago
No 1 holy book is Quran,No 1 majhab is islam,No 1 population become muslim,Subhan allah(Allah is great)
Douglas • 2 years ago
Let me introduce you to Jesus, The only true living God. He loves you and is waiting for you to ask Him to forgive you and come live inside you. His Love is unconditional and He will give you eternal life.
Rizwan • 2 years ago
Brother Douglas, Jesus doesn’t need an introduction to Muslims. A person who doesn’t believe in Jesus and his teachings is not a muslim at all. It is in his teachings the coming of Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) and he did…. so let me introduce you to prophet Mohammed(PBUH) who teaches you the complete way of life that leads to Allah( the almighty God)
Tom • 2 years ago
Jesus Has all of the answers for me.
Zeeshan • 2 years ago
okay,, now let me ask u a couple of questions….. first is, how the Jesus (may peace be upon him) used to eat,, how he used to sleep,, what was his favourite food,, how is he a role model for you when you are a very rich man..? He was a prophet sent by Allah for his nation, and all of his way of life is not saved as of Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him), we know the way he ate, they way he sleep,, he is a role model for every person in the world…
Second question,, just have a look at the picture of Jesus you have,, and compare it with your pops and practising muslim molvis…. you will see who is resembling more to Jesus,, and who is following him more… Jesus had a beard,, so muslims have today,, all prophets had beard,, but today you consider every muslim with beard a terorist..? why?
Orion • 2 years ago
Zeeshan, Jesus taught that it doesn’t matter what food you eat or how you pray. He taught us that food simply goes in one hole and comes out of the other. (Which it obviously does).
He taught us that the important thing is what is in our heart. How we treat other people.
We do not need to know what his favourite food was or what he liked for breakfast or how many hours sleep he liked. How are these relevant?
Jesus demonstrated God’s love for us by dying on the cross in order that we could be saved.
He set the example in the life he led, Jesus never killed anyone, never preached violence against those who disagreed with him, he never forced anyone to believe in him. He taught that the most important thing was to love thy neighbour,not just thy Christian neighbour and love God the way he loves us.
ps are you serious about the beard thing? How can someone having a beard make them a good or bad person? So if they are bad it is ok as long as they grow a beard?
Jesus was born a Jew. It was customary at that time for Jews to wear a beard. This has no significance.
The example Jesus set was he reiterated the importance of the ten commandments given by God to Moses and he taught us to resepct our God and our fellow man and treat ALL people with love and respect. No mention of the beard:). God Bless.
Afeef Khan • 2 years ago
I BELIEVE JESUS AS PROPHET AND HUMAN BEING.I BELIEVE MUHAMMAD AS PROPHET AND HUMAN BEING.
BUT ALMIGHTY ALLAH(GOD) IS NOT A HUMAN BEING.IT DEFINES THE DEFINITION OF GOD.THAT IS ONE OF THE BASIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTAINITY.NOW YOU THINK WHICH DEFINITION OF GOD IS BETTER.
Orion • 2 years ago
Better? Are we back in kindergarten Ateef? My God is better than your God.:)
It’s a question of belief Ateef.
As a Christian I believe Jesus was the son of God. That is why I follow his teachings. Love thy neighbour, follow the ten commandments and love thy neighbour.
As a Christian I don’t believe in forcing people to believe in my religion or trying to ridicule those who believe differently from myself. Being a Christian I believe that people should be free to make their own decisions in life about what they believe and what they don’t believe. If people choose not to believe in Christianity or turn away from Christ then I think that it is their choice (it is not for others to kill them for that or discriminate against them. ).
As a Christian I do not believe in discriminating against people because they follow a faith different to my own. I believe that all human beings are God’s children.
I do not believe in restricting the rights of believers of other religions to practice their own religion as I belive my religion stands up to any other so do not feel the need to restrict others from practicing theirs.
It is up to the individual to decide which religion they ‘believe’ or to use your phrase ‘is better’.
God Bless Ateef.
rashid • 2 years ago
u cannot say this on the day of judjement
Sultan • 2 years ago
What a coincidence, I am a Muslim and I believe the exact same thing (other than the fact that Jesus is the Son of God.)
Gri Jalco • 2 years ago
There is little doubt that the Bible is the worlds best-selling and most widely distributed book. A survey by the Bible Society concluded that around 2.5 billion copies were printed between 1815 and 1975, but more recent estimates put the number at more than 5 billion. By the end of 1995, combined global sales of Today’s English Version (Good News) New Testament and Bible (copyright for which is held by the Bible Societies) exceeded 17.75 million copies, and the whole Bible had been translated into 349 languages; 2123 languages have at least one book of the Bible in that language.
guinnessworldrecords.com/records…
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
The word HOLY come from QURAN only….This word started from Prophet Muhammad(sws)…. BIBLE is not Holy because holy means that religious book which never modified and every words are truth…
BIBLE HAS BEEN MODIFIED FROM BEFORE 1200 YEARS BY A GROUP OF CHURCH FATHERS.
Where is Bible first page ? It is modified not doubt. Because the first message of JESUS was in first page. In this first page of Bible JESUS SAYS…I AM NOT A GOD AT ALL..I AM NEITHER A GOD NOR A SON OF GOD…I AM ONLY A PROPHET OF ISLAM AND GOD ALLAHA SENT ME IN THIS EARTH FOR REMOVE SINS FRORM HUMAN HEARTS…..I am asking to my christian brothers WHERE IS BIBLE FIRST PAGE ?
GarryMc • 2 years ago
This debate is a waste of time.
I’d rather read a million other books before those.
Neither tells me of democracy, little of Liberty or Equality. Justice is only vaguely explained. No mention of the benefits or challenges of competition. Electricity, computers and machinery did not exist so their impact and importance is unknown, as was atomic Science, most of Medicine and so many of the Arts. There are so many brilliant thinkers, wonderful books and Scientific progress that make religious texts irrelevant.
Anonymous • 2 months ago
Absolutely correct
Ovais • 2 years ago
The estimate of Muslim population shown in the research is faulty, they show 344 million Muslims in India and Pakistan combined when in fact the population of Pakistan that the government officials quote here all the time is more than 200 million, and we know that India claims that it has even a larger number Muslims in India than in Pakistan. Although there have not been a official “Consensus” since the early 90’s in both countries i think, the population growth rates show much higher numbers than 344 million Muslims in Pakistan and India.
I cant really claim the numbers in the other parts of the world, but can surely tell about Pakistan and India. At the same time i do not believe the numbers were misconstrued intentionally by the writers.
Lynton • 1 year ago
Any estimate of numbers will be just that, an estimate. I don’t really see why it matters if everyone is happy with what they believe it shouldn’t matter how many individual members there are in each religio. More members does not mean more valid.
MC Roy • 2 years ago
Christianity is NOT even a religion. Its a lifestyle of a certain conviction. Conviction that Jesus is our personal Lord.
rashid • 2 years ago
yes u r right
Shaikh Sabir+Hussain • 2 years ago
Dear MC Roy…..You dont know the real truth about JESUS and there fore you are talking this types……. In the first page of BIBLE JESUS SAYS….I AM NOT A GOD AT ALL…I AM NEITHER A GOD NOR A SON OF GOD ..GOD HAVE NOTHING ANY CHILDS AND NO ONE IN THIS WORLD WHO HAVE SEEN TO GOD. I AM ONLY A PROPHET OF ISLAM AND GOD ALLAHA SENT ME IN THIS WORLD FOR REMOVE SINS FROM HUMAN HEARTS….AFTER MY DEATH IF SOMEONE MADE ME A GOD SO IT IS HIS MISTAKE AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE. This is real truth of JESUS which has been modified by some church fathers. After understand real truth every day in America peoples are converting to ISLAM……
Krishna Ramanujam • 2 years ago
If demography is destiny, I’m wondering if we’ll end up liking the destiny.
Ricardo • 2 years ago
Lots of good posts guys, but we all need to learn to respect one anothers religions. Everyone should have the freedom to believe or not believe exactly what they like. Don’t argue over these things just have your own beliefs and respect thoses of others. I’m a Christian but respect the rights of other people to believe what they like. It is only on judgement day that we will find out who is right and who is wrong, until then just enjoy your lives and do good.
God Bless.
ali • 2 years ago
MAN I LOVE YOU!!
sam • 2 years ago
How in the world can anyone expect muslims to believe in a buybull that says ‘earth is a flat circle….earth doesnt move earth 6000 yrs young,,,moon has own light noah flood worldwide god rested on 7th day’…v quran ‘earth is spherical earth moves in orbit no age given moon reflects light noah flood regional….your lord neither slumbers nor sleeps’….buybull jeremiah 8 8 ‘scribes have corrupted scriptures with their lying pens’…just as the quran said
Josh • 2 years ago
Sorry Sam the koran does not state that the earth moves in orbit in fact it states the opposite.
Quran 35:41- ‘Lo Allah graspeth the heavens and the earth that they deviate not’. This is clearly stating that the earth does not move.
Quran 27:61- Is not he who has made the earth as a fixed abode.
The koran does also say the moon has its own light which is scientifically incorrect.
Quran 71:16; and hath made the moon a light therein and made the sun a lamp.
The biggest joke is when you said the koran doesn’t think the earth is flat.
Quran 2:149 states From whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; that is indeed the truth from the Lord. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.
The Qur’an tells all Muslims to face in the direction of Mecca when they pray. However, this would only be possible on a flat Earth because it is not possible to bow down towards the direction of Mecca when you are on the opposite side of the earth. The author here presupposes a small world, local to Arabia, that is flat. Only in that world view can people everywhere face Mecca. Think about it Sam!!!
There are many scientific errors in both the bible and the koran Sam like
Sura 27:18-19 when Solomon claims to have heard ants talking we now know that ants communicate by smell not by sound so this is impossible. Does this mean Islam is all wrong no it’s just both Christianity and Islam don’t stand up to 21st century scientific scrutiny.
kak • 2 years ago
Wow.. you forgot to talk about the human creation in the Quran 🙂
Arief • 2 years ago
You are worng,I will tell you what Quran says..
Ahmad • 2 years ago
Hhhhhhh you’ve made me laugh before sleeping
.. Mr.Josh you’ve talked just like you know religions and my holy book Quran very well, but you’ve showen that you’re good in copy and paste. However, I don’t need to answer. Just keeping on your “Logical” consequences, humen are monkeys before million years, you don’t talk about the first cell because you’re gonna say God who created it, and you keep solving for anything you don’t want to touch believing side in you ..on the same monkeys line. And most significant scientific thing is that your ALL CONSEQUENCES ARE NOT SCIENTIFIC AT ALL! .. If you need a real debate Im ready just replay .. God be with you = Bye
Ricardo • 2 years ago
To be fair these books were never meant to be scientific textbooks. Science does not negate the teachings of religion. Both science and religion are of great importance. You cannot dismiss religion Christianity or Islam because there are inaccuracies in the text based on our knowledge of science. Religion offers a different perspective and teaching. It cannot be compared to science.
Ovais • 2 years ago
Any book claiming to be the word of God has to stand the test of time which includes science.
Josh is purposefully misguiding people with mistranslated Quran verses, here are the quotes with Arabic.
quran.com/2/149
quran.com/71/16
quran.com/27/61
quran.com/35/41
For more true information regarding Islams and Science, check out Dr Zakir Naik’s lectures on Islam and Modern science!
Josh • 2 years ago
Nice of you to reply back to me Ovais my friend.
Firstly all you have done is provide a different translation of the koran to the one I have used. I don’t like the way you say I am purposely misguiding people. I’m sorry you think that.
It is not for me to say who is using the right translation and who the wrong so what I will do then is give you some examples from your own translation of the koran (QURAN.COM) which I believe are incompatible with science and then pehaps you can come back and reply to me on them.
2-29 ‘It is He who created for you all of that which is on the earth. Then He directed Himself to the heaven, [His being above all creation], and made them seven heavens, and He is Knowing of all things’.
SCIENTIFICALLY NOT TRUE: This is clearly saying that the earth was created before all the other planets. This is false. Earth was formed later than other planets.
65:12 ‘It is Allah who has created SEVEN heavens and of the earth, the like of them. [His] command descends among them so you may know that Allah is over all things competent and that Allah has encompassed all things in knowledge’.
Again this is SCIENTIFICALLY INCORRECT. (There are 8 planets in the solar system and 5 dwarf planets)
71:15 Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in layers. ( Again this is SCIENTIFICALLY INCORRECT). There are 5 principal layers to the earths atmosphere and 5 layers to the earth.
37:6 ‘Indeed, We have adorned the nearest heaven with an adornment of stars’.
SCIENTIFICALLY INCORRECT. Nearest star to our solar system is 100 million times further way from the moon so could never be described as being in the nearest heaven.
15: 26 ‘And We did certainly create man out of clay from an altered black mud’.
SCIENTIFICALLY INCORRECT- As far as scientists are aware Humans evolved over millions of years weren’t made instantaneously out of mud.
86:5 ‘He was created from a fluid, ejected,’
86:6 ‘Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.’
(Obviously SCIENTIFICALLY INCORRECT as we know semen is formed in the testicles and testicles are not found in between the backbone and the ribs.
75:38 Then he was a clinging clot, and [ Allah ] created [his form] and proportioned [him].
This is saying that humans start as a blood clot.
SCIENTIFICALLY INCORRECT- A blood clot cannot grow into anything. At no stage does a human embryo consist of a clot, unless a baby had been miscarried in which they would be dead!!
ps I don’t think anyone with an academic background needs Dr Zakir Naik to tell them that semen is not made between the backbone and the ribs and that a baby is not born from a blood clot. Thanks Ovais.
Zeeshan • 2 years ago
dear josh,, such a false explanation of quranic verses you have given,, comparing deviation with motion,, fixation with non rotation etc… not deviating means not deviating from the orbit in which it is revolving… fixing means inserting the mountains as nails in it so that it will not move when you walk over it…. and we know earth on which we live has many plates,, about 32 km thick,, over water,, and without mountain,, it would move over water when we walk… this detail about mountain is mentioned in quran…
and when it says moon is light for you,, surely it is a light for us in night,, but kindly tell me from where you got the translation of its own light? rather the arabic word used for moonlight in quran means reflected light…
and there are many places in quran where it says planets, sun, stars and moons, all are revolving in their orbits….
so go and learn english first,, learning difference between deviation and motion,, between fixation and non rotation… and then study the quran and comments of authorised scientist about it,, not a layman…
for example,, to know how precise quran is in embryology,, reffer to KEITH L. MOORE,, whose embryology book is taught as textbook to doctors worldwide… (I am a medical student and have read his book as sallybus…
pete • 2 years ago
Zeeshan considering you are a medical student you are not making a very good argument.
You are not answering Josh’s points on the 7 heavens??
You are not answeing Josh’s points on the earth having 7 principal layers,
You haven’t explained how God created a human being instantaneously out of clay or how fluid (semen) is ejected from between the backbone and the ribs.
If he has mistranslated then where are your alternative translations??
Zeeshan • 2 years ago
okay, have all the answers.. 7 heavens are not the stratosphere, or troposphere etc,,, as it is mentioned, first heaven has all the stars in it,, so it is a part of the 3% universe (not the complete 3% but a part of it) which we can see and has all the stars in it… the rest of that,, scientists say,,we can’t see and it is ASSUMED to be 97% by the science.. quran says it is much more than that and there are 7 skies… here is a limitation in science,, not an error in quran,, that’s why i didn’t answer that first…
7 earths are justified by science…
(1) The Solid Inner Core of Earth: 1.7% of the Earth’s mass; depth of 5,150 – 6,370 kilometers (3,219 – 3,981 miles)
(2) The Liquid Outer core: 30.8% of Earth’s mass; depth of 2,890 – 5,150 kilometers (1,806 – 3,219 miles)
(3) The “D” Layer: 3% of Earth’s mass; depth of 2,700 – 2,890 kilometers (1,688 – 1,806 miles)
(4) Lower Mantle: 49.2% of Earth’s mass; depth of 650 – 2,890 kilometers (406 -1,806 miles
(5) Middle Mantle (Transition region): 7.5% of Earth’s mass; depth of 400 – 650 kilometers (250-406 miles)
(6) Upper Mantle: 10.3% of Earth’s mass; depth of 10 – 400 kilometers (6 – 250 miles)
(7) Lithosphere Oceanic crust: 0.099% of Earth’s mass; depth of 0-10 kilometers (0 – 6 miles)
view details and references from scientific books at quranandscience.com/featured-art…
and sperms are formed in testes which,, you may not know,, are present near the kidneys (between the backbone and the ribs, you can say) in earlier stages of life and then descent down via the inguinal canal into the scrotum.. these testes are also produced by cells underneath the kidney… while the old concept about the production of sperms (and even today some quacks own this faulty idea) is in the knees,, but quran went against that idea and gave a new theory,, not presented by anyone by that time… hope that is the answer to question..
pete • 2 years ago
I’m sorry Zeeshan. Your first paragraph doesn’t make a lot of sense and wasn’t scientific at all.
There is only one atmosphere. This atmosphere can be classified by different criteria.
You can classify it by TEMPERATURE (you get 5 layers)
by AERODYNAMICAL STATE you get 4 layers,
by RADIOPHYSICAL STATE you get 3 layers
by CHEMICAL PROCESSES 2 layers.
There is NO classification into 7 layers that I can find.
Secondly regarding geology I’m sorry Zeeshan you are making another fundamental scientific error. Whichever way you classify there are 5 layers to the earth.
Let me explain.
There are two ways to classify the composition of the earth
We can do it –
CHEMICALLY- into crust,
upper mantle,
lower mantle,
outer core,
inner core,
or FUNCTIONALLY, this is where we would start talking about the funtions of the outer layers (crust and mantle) into lithosphere and asthenosphere.
However you can’t count lithosphere, asthenosphere, crust and upper mantle together as you would be counting some of the same rocks twice wouldn’t you??
They are completely different classifications. Do you understand? So sorry it quite simply remains 4 or 5 layers.
Finally are you seriously saying that when a man produces sperm at that point in time the drop of sperm emitted originates from in between the backbone and the ribs.
This is clearly wrong. We are not talking about earlier stages of life. We are talking about when sperm is emitted.
Thanks for your reply though. I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
pete • 2 years ago
On a much simpler level as well Zeeshan I am unsure why you haven’t counted the continental crust as well as the oceanic crust? The Continental crust and oceanic crust have different densities??
If you are going to include such things as D layer you would have to include Continental Crust.
That would make 8 layers by your classification?
Your literature you have referred us to mentions the continental crust but bizarrely doesn’t include it in it’s count!!
If we are talking D layers how about the Mohorovicic discontinuity (The boundary between the earths crust and mantle?). Wouldn’t that be 9 layers? You have mentioned D layer but haven’t included this why?
Can you see how silly it can get how we can come up with any number we like? The fact remains there are 5 principle layers to the earth.
Josh • 2 years ago
You say I need to learn English:).
The verses I have quoted are all taken from quranonline? Is that wrong??
I’ve detailed the quranic verses quite clearly and demonstrated how the science behind them is clearly erroneous.
It is quite clear to anyone reading these verses what the verses mean. If you choose to be silly about it and infer some kind of hidden meaning then that is fine it just looks a bit desperate.
You made no specific points in your reply until the last paragraph when you mentioned Dr Keith Moore. I think another poster has made the point already about Dr Keith Moore not being a muslim and distancing himself from quranic science.
The exbryology in the Quran is basic to say the least. There is absolutely no detail there at all.
It simply says ‘
Sura 23-14’We created man from an essence of clay, then We placed him as a drop of fluid in a safe place. Then We made that drop of fluid into a clinging form, and then We made that form into a lump of flesh, and We made that lump into bones, and We clothed those bones with flesh, and later We made him into other forms. Glory be to God the best of creators.’
Is this your evidence for divine inspiration Zeeshan?
There is nothing novel or unexplainable about this explanation of human development. The only reason it is harder to criticise than Aristotle is because there is so little detail included. It is so general that it can be made to fit any explanation.
In actual fact modern embryologists including your Doctor Moore have identified that bone and muscle both develop from the same tissue called MESODERM.
Therefore bone and muscles begin to develop simultaneously, rather than sequentially. So far from bones being clothed with flesh, it would be more accurate if the Qur’an had said that muscles started to develop at the same time as bones, but completed their development earlier. The idea that bones are clothed with flesh is identical to Galen.
Similarly Moore in his most recent textbook identifies 13 stages of embyonic development where the quran give us 4- nutfah,alaqa,mudghah and the clothing of the bones with flesh.
Again the quran is identical to Galen in this respect and very similar to anicent Greek literature.
In the most recent (1998) edition of The Developing Human, Moore directed his readers to a book which contains another essay by Basim Musallam, which again points out how similar the Qur’anic science of embryology was to that of Galen, and how this close association was never questioned by the ancient Muslim scholars.
Enjoy reading.
Zeeshan • 2 years ago
and when you say that you don’t think anyone with an academic background needs Dr Zakir Naik to tell them that man is not made from a clot of blood,, then go and tell this thing to Dr. Keith L. Moore,, whose embryology is being studied all over the world… tell all the doctors of the world not to read KLM embryology as he had wrong ideas about it…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_L._M…
go for that,, and see what he said about quran.. also this
fantasticworld-1.blogspot.com/20…
and you can search even more on net…
pete • 2 years ago
Professor Keith Moore is not a Muslim.
Surely if he was than convinced by Quranic science then he would have converted to Islam wouldn’t you have thought??:)
Talking of textbooks it is quite interesting that if you look at the CV of Professor Keith Moore the 3rd edition of ‘The Developing Human’ cliniically oriented embryology’ that is often quoted by Islam is not on his Cv. Isn’t this strange?
He has the 2nd edition on there and then it jumps to the 5th edition and so on.
Again if he was so convinced with quranic science do you not think he would at least include it in his cv?
The only reference on a cv is a reference to an Islamic journal but there is nothing about this often quoted 3rd edition on his cv.
Do your homework guys. It’s all online.
al Mutkkbar • 2 years ago
I had lived as a Muslim all my life believing that Islam was the only true religion, keeping and maintaining every Islam tradition and practice. This never gave me peace in my heart until i met JESUS of the bible. Giving him a chance in my life, i now live in peace with assurance of eternal salvation. My appeal to my fellow brothers in Islam: open your eyes to the flaws of Islam, the violence, jihad and a non-relational god. i encourage you to find a bible and read it.not with a critic mind but a mind seeking God and you will find HIM there
True Believer • 2 years ago
al Mutkkbar, its easy to slander, bring you proofs if you are truthful of Bible being the final revelation that has never been corrupted.
I can proof Islam is the only true religion without any flaw, distortion, contradiction. In fact, an unbiased reflection on Qur’aan answers everything.
Wellwisher • 2 years ago
Kindly advise in which christianity we have to believe?
Catholic
Protestant or Anglican
Eastern Orthodox
and also advise which version to be followed?
American Standard Version (ASV)
Common English Bible (CEB)
Douay-Rheims (RHE)
English Standard Version (ESV)
New International Version (NIV)
New King James Version (NKJV)
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
King James Version (KJV)
Is there any book of above from GOD?
Josh • 2 years ago
Doesn’t matter which church you attend or which bible you read Wellwisher.
Often different religions when they can’t argue with the message or teachings of Christianity will try and say that it has been mistranslated. It is called trying to play the man and not the ball.
New Testament manuscripts agree in 99.5% of the text. Most of the discrepancies are in spelling and word order. There are two passages that are disputed but no discrepancy is of any doctrinal significance (i.e., NONE WOULD ALTER BASIC CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE).
Moreover most Bibles include the options as footnotes when there are discrepancies. How could there be such accuracy over a period of 1,400 years of copying? Two reasons: The scribes that did the copying had meticulous methods for checking their copies for errors. 2) The Holy Spirit made sure we would have an accurate copy of God’s word so we would not be deceived.
If you don’t believe in Christianity fair enough but it would be foolish to not believe in Christianity because you felt that it had somehow been translated to something different. That is simply propaganda my friend.
Hamid • 2 years ago
Amen. The bible is the word of God.
Vonni • 2 years ago
Jesus!
nusrat noor • 2 years ago
SubhanAllah, the beauty of Islam is, it is divine revelation from the Allah, and has not been changed by people, according to their views.
Beth • 2 years ago
To God be the Glory brother! 🙂
alimmy • 2 years ago
Kindly advise in which christianity we have to believe?
Catholic
Protestant or Anglican
Eastern Orthodox
and also advise which version to be followed?
American Standard Version (ASV)
Common English Bible (CEB)
Douay-Rheims (RHE)
English Standard Version (ESV)
New International Version (NIV)
New King James Version (NKJV)
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
King James Version (KJV)
Is there any book of above from GOD?
joseph anthony • 2 years ago
make peace! don’t do what is wrong but do what is right! 😛
Dave • 2 years ago
Good post.
Shaheer • 2 years ago
Firstly mind your languange (nicki picki) and then i will also advice you that first bring authentic reasons on this and then talk about peaceful religion ISLAM because we MUSLIMS also talk on the basis of authentic and valid reasons
sd asmar • 2 years ago
ALLAHU AKBAR (Allah is greatest)
sd asmar • 2 years ago
truth will spread through out the world, i am proud to be a muslim .
aslam • 2 years ago
oh Christians why you are prejudiced of islam. you don t know how we respect jessus p.b.u.h, you people always insult our prophet p.b.u.h. but we are silent if jessus were insulted instead of our prophet, no Christian would be silent. and you all are aware that your missionereis are using trillion dollars to prevail Christianity and muslims are not spending one dollar despite that you don t understand our religion peace
aslam • 2 years ago
yes
Ayub Arab • 2 years ago
You are right my friend. One thing should keep in mind that good thing never stops. Everyday many non-Muslim becoming muslim. This is only religion that give peace, and judgment to all humans.
awais hussain • 2 years ago
yes this is right islam is omni, it means that it is true for God sake make a mind to thing what is right or what is wrong. christianity has been accepted to a limited time but islam is for remaining all the days that we and after us generations breathe here. so if someone disrespect our Prophet (P.B.U.H) that is his or her innocence. it is my obligation or duty to convey it…. Islam shall be for the last life of a human being… let note it down…
ant • 2 years ago
wot reed the good book then say that
Prakasto ch banai • 2 years ago
Hind or Hindustan often derived from since palaeozoic eras,which offer you all most wows,,the world most valuable religion is Hindu as there present thousand of script.
Afeef Khan • 2 years ago
THIS MAY BE YOUR PERSONAL PERCEPTION TO SATISFY YOURSELF.IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUSTIFY IT WITH MERE YOUR PERCEPTION?
quuazi • 2 years ago
Would tell us ??
1. What’s name of your main religious book?
2. Did you know what is telling there?
amina • 2 years ago
i love islam no one can stop me
Nashville Boy • 2 years ago
Folks stop fighting over religions. Follow your religion and worship God. Be good citizens and servants to God. We agree on most of God’s commands and disagree on very few believes. Work toward Heaven and be a good citizen.
rk • 2 years ago
Great comment, and very true. Thank you for posting.
Stoneage chef • 2 years ago
Religion! the main source of the human races unhappiness
Stoneage chef • 2 years ago
All religion is absolute rubbish!!!!
Kamal • 2 years ago
No my friend this is your missunderstanding did you study about islam if not kindly sdudy and then deside, belife be you will fill more comfortable and relax.
Nick • 2 years ago
This is truly disturbing. What’s more disturbing is this reflexive solidarity I am reading in the comments section between people that identify themselves as Muslim. I suspect a majority of them haven’t read their own books – and if they did, they’d either be appalled and ‘quietly’ leave the faith, or they’d recommit themselves to the faith and become increasingly violent.
I have news for you, Muslims – Muhammad was not a peaceful man. He took slaves, waged war, oversaw executions and amputations, called for the assassination of artists, poets, and rivals, and even married a 9 year old girl. This is not someone you want to emulate. I fear for a world where the veneration of a man like this is absolute.
shoaib • 2 years ago
INSHA ALLAH… 🙂
Amina • 2 years ago
you know what? reading the Quran actually just strengthens my faith in Islam. Alhamdollillah.
JDZ • 2 years ago
Hey nick. Let me tell you that you not being a part of Islam has it all wrong. Muslims and Islam is the most peaceful religion. You have to understand that the Abrahamic lineage is more or less the same brotherhood. Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) never waged wars for bloodshed but always gave the message that All religions belong to God and Muslim, Jews and Christians are brothers. Also the biggest misperception is that He married a 9 year old when that is the biggest lie. He married he when she was 16 and taken as a wife when she was 19.
True Believer • 2 years ago
Nick, its easy to slander, bring your proof from the Book if you are truthful of your words.
Lot gets drunk, commits incest with his own two daughters and impregnates them (Genesis 19:30-36).
Noah is drunk and naked in his tent (Genesis 9:21-23).
Abraham sacrifices his honour (Genesis 12:10-15).
Destroy all that they have, don’t spare, slay man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass (1 Samuel 15:3).
They shall fall by the sword, their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up (Hosea 13:16).
– list can go on however this is not a place to debate, if you are sincerely seeking the truth then read any Qur’aan and reflect without any bias.
True Believer • 2 years ago
Nick, bring your proof from the Book if you are truthful of your words, its easy to slander.
Lot gets drunk, commits incest with his own two daughters and impregnates them (Genesis 19:30-36).
Noah is drunk and naked in his tent (Genesis 9:21-23).
Abraham sacrifices his honour (Genesis 12:10-15).
Destroy all that they have, don’t spare, slay man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass (1 Samuel 15:3).
They shall fall by the sword, their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up (Hosea 13:16).
– list can go on however this is not a place to debate, if you are sincerely seeking the truth then read Qur’aan and reflect on it without any bias.
– we respect and love all prophets and messengers, from Adam until Muhammad (may peace and blessing be upon them) we don’t discriminate.
Josh • 2 years ago
All your quotes are from the old testament True Believer!!
There is lots of violence etc in the old testament.
Christians however believe in Jesus being the son of God. That is why Christians follow his teachings and example rather than the actions of David etc. The clue is in the title. Christianity is called Christianity not Davidianity.
If we look at the example of Jesus. He never stole, he never took slaves, he never killed people for insulting him or forced people to believe in him or his message. He taught to treat all people with respect, not just those who belive the same as him.
Jesus taught people to Love thy neighbour, not love thy Christian neighbour.
God Bless.
Dave • 2 years ago
True believer Christians believe JESUS is the son of God. Christians are instructed by Jesus to follow the ten commandments given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai. ‘Thou shalt not kill etc’ but aside from that the emphasis is on following the example of Jesus as he is the son of God.
Jesus never forced anyone to believe in him, never condoned the killing of anyone who insulted him, never took slaves, never committed violence against anyone.
You can quote old testament as much as you like but it has absolutely no relevance to Christians compared to the teachings of Jesus.
Best wishes.
mike • 2 years ago
In your dreams, the world will not convert to islam. Islam is not a religion of peace, in fact it’s a religion that support suicide bombers, women’s right suppression, and a lot of harassment. So definitely, it’s just in your dreams which I guess will never concretize.
Shahin • 2 years ago
Let me Assure everyone that It is very unlikely that Islam will ever take our world. As Islam is regressive and is unable so long as Democracy and Modernity thrives, Islam will gradually regress to its primordial state.
Islam only thrives like a germ in a Host that is Sick, Society with economic and educational lags will likely flourish such Pathology.
Viva La Democracy
Ibrahim • 2 years ago
Thats what you’ve been brainwashed to believe. Islam does NOT support suicide bombers or women’s right suppression. Learn you’re history. Before Islam women had no rights. In the Quran it says, “If you killed an innocent human being. It’s as if you killed whole humanity”. No other scripture in the world says something like this. Go youtube Dr. Zakir Naik, you’ll learn a thing or two about what Islam is really about. Ignorant people like you should educate themselves before anything. This goes to every other ANTI-Islam over here.
Gri Jalco • 2 years ago
Merely stating that individuals will be judged as such by Allah does not mean that they have equal rights and roles, or that they are judged by the same standards.
There is no ambiguity in the Quran, the life of Muhammad, or Islamic law as to the inferiority of women to men despite the efforts of modern-day apologists to salvage Western-style feminism from scraps and fragments of verses that have historically held no such progressive interpretation.
After military conquests, Muhammad would dole out captured women as war prizes to his men. In at least one case, he advocated that they be raped in front of their husbands. Captured women were made into sex slaves by the very men who killed their husbands and brothers. There are four Quranic verses in which “Allah” makes clear that a Muslim master has full sexual access to his female slaves, yet there is not one that prohibits rape.
The Quran gives Muslim men permission to beat their wives for disobedience, but nowhere does it command love in marriage. It plainly says that husbands are “a degree above” wives. The Hadith says that women are intellectually inferior, and that they comprise the majority of Hell’s occupants.
Under Islamic law, a man may divorce his wife at his choosing. If he does this twice, then wishes to remarry her, she must first have sex with another man. Men are exempt from such degradations.
Muslim women are not free to marry whom they please, as are Muslim men. Their husband may also bring other wives (and slaves) into the marriage bed. And she must be sexually available to him at any time (as a field ready to be “tilled,” according to the holy book of Islam).
Muslim women do not inherit property in equal portion to males. This is somewhat ironic given that Islam owes its existence to the wealth of Muhammad’s first wife, which would not otherwise have been inherited by her given that she had two brothers and her first husband had three sons.
A woman’s testimony in court is considered to be worth only half that of a man’s, according to the Quran. Unlike a man, she must also cover her head – and often her face.
If a woman wants to prove that she was raped, then there must be four male witnesses to corroborate her account. Otherwise she can be jailed or stoned to death for confessing to “adultery.”
Given all of this, it is quite a stretch to say that men and women have “equality under Islam” based on obscure theological analogies or comparisons. This is an entirely new ploy that is designed for modern tastes and disagrees sharply with the reality of Islamic law and history.
Amina • 2 years ago
Muslims know that Islam will only be the religion of everybody by the Will of Allah. But as this world is imperfect, there will always be criminals, from amongst the non muslims and the muslims. And as the world is imperfect, there will always be non muslims.
By the Will of Allah, of course.
I mean, everyone would love a world with people of the same opinion. But if thats not the Will of God, it will never happen.
Shaheer • 2 years ago
Hey mike let me tell you one thing that before talking about someone else religion first see your religion that you christians have inserted false and lie things in your religion .we MUSLIMS follow the true and authentic religion of peace with the true teachings of HOLY PROPHET(P.B.U.H) who are the guideline for the whole mankindand also for your knowledge ISLAM is the top most spreading religion in the world.The things which are given in HOLY QURAN 1430 years before today science is proveing it today.
faiz malik • 2 years ago
inshallah hum kuch dino mai no1 per hoge
Sher Mohammad Mohammadi • 2 years ago
الله دی اسلام ته لا هم ترقی ورکری
Altaf H. • 2 years ago
I’m proud to be a Muslim.
Allah is greatest. 🙂
Altaf H. • 2 years ago
Masha-allah, I’m proud to be Muslim. Allah is one and greatest.
Noor • 2 years ago
Hmmmm.. Now how many of the Muslims identify themselves under a sect such as suni, sufi, shia, or do you say we are muslimeen? How many of you Muslims follow Hadith and Sunna or any other book with the Quran?
Answer is, If you do not ONLY follow the Quran as your only source for guidance and if you belong to any sect, you are not following Islam. BTW, Sharia Laws? Are all from Jewish and Christians Scriptures… except the 100 lashes for adultery..
Do your history..
Yes, I am Muslim, born and raised in a sunni upbringing, NEVER once did I follow Hadith nor Sunna and never believed in them. Reading the Quran does not make you knowledgeable. Try studying it and ponder on the words of God and you will see it is a total different view than most Muslims see. I is a fresh air and so beautiful and it is peaceful than what you see scholars and imams taking it out of text and lying about the true meaning of Allah’s words.. Being a Muslim does not take you to heaven… Muhummed can not save anyone, it is in the Quran. Yes, Jews and Christians who believe in God and one God and do good will go to Heaven. study the quran.
Yes Muslims who are reading this, Christians and Jews who believe in God, and one God who do good will go to Heaven. Read the Quran and throw the satanic Hadith and Sunna Books.Stop idolizing prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and stop believing because you are Muslim he will do intercession for you. That is a lie and fabrication. Again, Allah tells you that in the Quran, there is no Intercession from anyone.
quransmessage.com/articles/hadit…
Shabina Asghar • 2 years ago
If you do not follow Quran and Sunni, you can’t do half what Islam teaches and you are not sunni. Sunni means following sunnah of the prophet pbuh. Sunnah teaches u how to pray, what fard or wudu, what fard parents, and develops and gives in depth knowledge of islam. Prophet pbuh said whoever does not follow Quran and sunnah is not from me you can be true Muslim until u follow both
Ayub Arab • 2 years ago
There is Hadid that after prophet there will be 73 group and only one group will possess paradise. Once prophet told that thing defenently happen, today there are many group e.g. Shia, Sunni, Vora, Kadiyani, Ahle Hadid, Wahabi, Devbandi, Kadiyan, Nechri, etc among them only one group is on true path that is AHLE SUNNAH WAL JAMAT. All group have there own believe and follow according to there evolve. Only sunni are believe in Prophet Mohamad Sallahu Alaihi Wasallam. All other group has jealous about prophet position and popularity.
EASHA • 2 years ago
alhamdulillah i’m proud of my religon and i’m sure about that there are da day r not far dat our religon will be 1st on the future insallah……:D
santhosh • 2 years ago
useful page ever
Hasim rizzaq • 2 years ago
ALLAH THE GREATEST.
I have alway’s heard 1 day the whole world will convert to islam and it will be a islam world
I have seen alot of people converting to islam.
ALLAH THE GREATEST, ALLAH THE GREATEST, ALLAH THE GREATEST.
Paul66 • 2 years ago
Have you ever considered that the reason there are so many so call “Muslims” because a large majority refuse to admit that they dont even believe in a god because of what this religion of peace will do to them? Death, beating, stoning, jail in most countries for apostasy. In more developed countires, the punishment is family and friends will disown them. I have met many “so call muslims” who do not believe and I am only one person.
I have nothing against any religion, I have a problem witl bad people doing bad things in the name of religion. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a good human practicing his or her religion without hurting others. Peace to all 🙂
Ayub Arab • 2 years ago
In this world human has right to choose either Paradise or Hale. It Solly depend on one individual decision . Quran says have necessary information about Islam and surrounding. Now you decide which path do you follow ?
ali • 2 years ago
Islam is the one way of go haveen.islam only truth rilagan.you read ‘quran’ you all your solation salb
ravi singh • 2 years ago
best regional in hindu becuse hindi proson very caluter=you only one time study hindu history ofter you belive, thank
Salman Moyeen • 2 years ago
Worship One God, My friend.
Mukhtar Yana • 2 years ago
Thank you Drew DeSilver for this great work.
But O you Muslims You have two great works 1 for ourselves is we becomes a good Muslims a Muslim is he from whose tongue and hand
the Muslims and the rest are safe from any harm. 2 is to invites all 77% to Islam.do not agree for any one to inter hell fire the day of judgment.
AFIA • 3 years ago
I HOPE THEY ALL BE TRUE MUSLIMS!!!ISLAM IS TRUTH
Andria Cran • 3 years ago
Oh and I am not a Liverpool or Chelsea supporter, even so the way the Liverpool fans were still singing You’ll Under no circumstances Walk alone when their team was losing and the game was almost finished was pretty. Big respect.
IAvsNiR3v2.com/IAvsNiR3v2
Mursal • 3 years ago
@Peace you must be making grave errors, region and religion have difference just like east and west, region GEOGRAPHICAL religion ONCE BELIEF. religious messages are one WORSHIP ONLY ONE GOD AND DO NOT ASSOCIATE PARTNERS. The message from one region to another doesn’t change. It’s universal and teaches love to human and humanity you cant believe in LOVE PEOPLE this is attitude. Thanks
dulal • 3 years ago
nice work. i am a bangladeshi, here muslims are majority. in this country the cecess report is published in 10 years. but do not belive the cenceus roport. in last cenceeus most of my freinds did not take part. govt. publish the report by table work. and people of bangladeshi do not believe the roport,
Charmaine Kunz • 3 years ago
Thanks for the wonderful research. I am using some of the information to assess modernity and qur’anic interpretations and actual current Muslim opinions for my college paper at UofM. Your analysis was a great find for me.
riyas • 3 years ago
brother may i know u conclusion in u r paper
rangoon • 3 years ago
Good luck with your paper.
Fatih • 3 years ago
Brothers hz.mehti is coming in year of between 2150 to 2250 to show the world to teach the world how peace full Islam is..
mt183 • 3 years ago
This is for all the people quoting verses. Are you really that ignorant. It is pretty simple God doesnt want anybody to kill eachother all the books are oppen to your own interpretation. It is simple to find verses you are looking for because you are interpreting them yourself. Religion is like gun, it doesnt kill its the people that mishandle it that do. I am Muslim n I must be honest I could care less about other religions or people I’m just trying to be a good person that I’m pretty sure God wants me to be. I have many good friends with many different religions. We dont argue about things like that its pointless and stupid. I do find this Alex quoting Quran really interesting its nice to see a Christian “infidel” lol jk. taking interest in Islam even if its negative beings that most dont even bother and just hate. I would however ask you that being you quoted a few verses that you deem negative can you please quote a few that you deem positive.
Alex. • 3 years ago
It’s not a case of negative or positive it is simply stating fact. It’s easy to post at the top of the page mt183 that people are ignorant. If you feel people are wrong about any of the quotes they have given or you do not think they are taking into account the context then feel free to respond directly below to the comments or quotes given. Posting at the top that religion is like a gun is overly simplistic. It doesn’t address the issues that have been raised below.
I’m glad you and your friends don’t sit around questioning each others religions. I would be a bit worried if you did.:)
Islam as a religion makes very big claims for itself. It claims that the koran is the last message from God and Mohammed is Gods last messenger. It claims that the koran is completely unchanged and to be followed to the letter. Therefore when verses in the koran encourage violence in the name of God against non muslims and Mohammed in the hadiths condones the killings of people who insult or leave Islam then these things are obviously not going to go unnoticed by readers.
To simply deny verses etc like so many posters on here have chosen to do does not address these issues at all and doesn’t lead to a better understanding. Just like the bible has been studied and scrutinised in the past expect every word of the koran and the hadiths to be scrutinised more and more in the years to come. Any religion that makes claims like Islam and Christianity do is bound to receive scrutiny. It is nothing to do with positive or negative or like or dislike. We are all free to believe what we like. Regards.
Suade • 2 years ago
Hi Alex
It sounds obvious that you have a very aggressive opinion about Islam .
you must read more and more and then you will find the truth.
but you must read by the eyes of your heart.
you must not search about a certain thing ad to confirm ideas because you will absolutely succeed instead try just to search about the truth without previous judges….
Many thanxs
alam khan • 3 years ago
all world upcoming muslim
Hafiz • 3 years ago
Best is islam life is best in islam best knolleage is quran
Sandy Casey Myers • 3 years ago
shame on u drew
Ellen • 3 years ago
I don’t pretend to be an expert on any religion, however, I do know this to be a fact….as none of us have actually met God or Allah, RELIGION and REALITY ARE JUST PERCEPTION. End of story!
Ayub Arab • 2 years ago
You are businessman my friend. Quran says in first part believe in me without see. Anybody can believe if he met Allah but it is strong belief without see one believe that Allah is everywhere and though see us.
Ellen • 3 years ago
I am a Canadian and a Christian. I do not push my religious beliefs on anyone, and I expect the same from other religions. What I do have a big problem with is when people come from other countries to my country (Canada) and expect us to bend all of our rules/beliefs to accommodate theirs. I’m tired of losing my rights to pacify new immigrants to Canada. We can no longer even say “Merry Christmas” or refer to a Christmas tree by its proper name. We can’t use the word “God” in schools! In some provinces we cannot even express our religious beliefs for fear of being reprimanded for not being “politically correct”. Our government should stop trying to please immigrants from different parts of the globe at the expense of our culture or beliefs. I say shame on our government for allowing the people who have built this great country of ours to be “pushed aside” and OUR rights as pure Canadians to be abolished!…and shame on us as Canadians for sitting back with our heads in the sand and letting this happen. Come on Canada…we built this great country, now let’s defend it!
If other people with different beliefs or cultures do not want to blend in with ours, they are free to go back to where ever they came from. Nobody’s forcing them to stay. Don’t misunderstand me. I have no problem with immigrants coming to Canada. Both of my parents were immigrants to Canada. They never lived off of our system. They worked very hard all of their lives and blended in with Canada and became proud Canadians. There are far too many people coming to our great country and living off of our welfare system, getting free education, free medical care, and the list goes on. And who paid taxes all of our lives to build these systems for us in emergencies? WE DID!! Time for the government and citizens of Canada to pay attention and defend OUR RIGHTS before it’s too late….if it isn’t already.
Sandy Casey Myers • 3 years ago
hey ellen, usa here saying thanks back at u, yall have the same thing going on as us.
human pollution. sad, but i have to say. it is just the fullfillment of the bible, and we all
have to go thru this. so belive so done. but that is it. but i had really like to fight back, if the chance will come around then we will. really
mt183 • 3 years ago
You cant say marry Christmas because of the Canadian atheists not people of other religions and also 99% if the legal imigrants actually pay taxes. Yes there is some lazy bums that work the system but there is also just as many or more Canadians doing the same thing. And same goes for the US of A where I am soon to be a citizen after 20 years of residence and paying taxes since age 16 when I got my first job 🙂
john • 3 years ago
“Same here in Malaysia we are prohibit used Allah if used Bahasa. Even the Malay bible also can not use. They are too obsess with the religion. Some muslim prohibits wishes “Merry Christmas to Christian people.” Medium communication Bahasa! Now every body only use english “God” Allah only muslim are allowed. SHALOM
Tom • 3 years ago
You can’t say “Merry Christmas”? Who says? What would the sanction against you be, if you said “Merry Christmas” to a policeman in Canada?
See – I think you’re mistaken. I don’t believe that any of those freedoms are being taken away at all. I think some individual small incidents are being misreported by a media who want to get people to buy their content and whipped up into far more than they are. I think that people can reply to anyone who tries to say “you cannot say Merry Christmas” with the words “Merry Christmas – what are you going to do to me, and stay Lawful?”
There are NO LAWS in any of the Western nations which prevent you expressing your religious identity and beliefs. Anyone who tries to stop you doing that is stepping outside the Law and you are free to disobey their edict.
b. wood • 3 years ago
Yeah, well, try saying Merry Christmas in Saudi Arabia, or Yemen, or probably even most of the so-called ‘liberal’ Muslim countries.
Peace • 3 years ago
All human listen to me……………………………………………………………………..
We are all human in earth. We wear different colored dress. So it is general that our religion will be different. I think that it is a natural thing. It is built up according to the nature and climate of a region.
Simply religion is similar to region.
So, do not try to overload your religion to another region. It will break ecosystem. Very simple to understand who has brain.
But who are mad and do not have brain:
They try to create violence in earth. Do not do it. Try to love people. Help people with food and comfort if you are really religion. Do to try to define religion through another meaning.
The best religion is: Love people in earth and do not try to establish your own thought going to another region.
Take care every human.
Manchester • 3 years ago
Good post. Merry christmas to everyone.
Dave • 3 years ago
Peace to everyone.
Ronald Browne • 3 years ago
“All the Prophets of God proclaim the same faith.” This is one of nine inscriptions that appear in the alcoves of the Baha’i House of Worship in Wilmette, Illinois. Biologically, there is only one species of human being currently living on the planet earth. Mankind is meant to live in harmony. I am not offended by anyone’s religious beliefs nor do I attempt to impose my religious beliefs on anyone else. The essence of the “Golden Rule” can be found as a spiritual teaching in most, if not all, of the world’s religions. If everyone adhered to this simple concept, violence could be rendered nearly non-existent.
Ayub Arab • 2 years ago
Islam in not forcing anybody to believe. It is individual decision.
Rangoon • 3 years ago
In the 21st. century there should be full religious freedom. Nowhere in the world should people be persecuted or discriminated against because of their religion. Islamic countries should accept that people are allowed not to believe in Islam. Muslims should be allowed to freely leave Islam without being branded apostates and Christians/Hindus/Buddhists should have the right to build as many churches/temples etc as they wish in Muslim countries. Islamic countries should provide the same protection and freedom of religion to other religions as they would expect for their own religion. People are judged ultimately by their actions. That means people being freely allowed to choose and practice. their own faith. You cant say you are peaceful and respectful of other faiths if that is not demonstrated in your actions. Actions speak louder than words. Peace to everyone. God bless .
starr • 2 years ago
i think its mostly the western countries that discriminate muslims…. not vice versa.. and unlike what most people think, no muslim can be forced to stay a muslim..
nadia ali • 3 years ago
Peace be upon each and every person , I am a muslim , I fear even killing an insect God alone gives life and only God alone shall take life ,every soul shall taste death ,its amazing to see all the non muslims coating text from the Quran , I begin in the name of God , you won’t accept the words of GOD until GOD softens your heart GOD guides whom GOD wills and GOD leaves those to go astray whom GOD wills ,from the Torah , the Gospel and the Quran all original books are the same One GOD sending the message through different messengers to mankind each verse was revealed at the time to help people understand especially in the times of war remember at the time of Moses PBUH the jews was the chosen ones at the time of Jesus PBUH christians were the chosen ones at the time of Muhammed PBUH the muslims was the chosen ones I pray that GOD guide us all to the correct path and pass this test on earth and may all the true believers dwell in paradise forever Ameen ALLAHUMMAH AMEEN GOD is judge of Mankind GOD LORD and RULER of everything will judge you on the day of Judgement I pray that you find him before that DAY comes !!
Ramis • 3 years ago
Pointless discussion. Invest your time in more productive activities.
jan khan • 3 years ago
he who does not take me as his king bring him and i will slay him in front of you…luke19. said by jesus
Alex • 3 years ago
Is that all you can come up with Jan? That is a poor attempt Lol. The verse you have quoted comes from a story Jesus told about a master and his servant and what could happen if people were dishonest. He is demonstrating that if you are honest you will get everything in life and if you tell lies you will get nothing. IT IS THE MASTER IN THE STORY WHO SAYS BRING HIM IN FRONT OF ME NOT JESUS:). So sorry NO violence there Jan!!
I ask you again to find a quote in the bible or demonstrate a situation in the bible where Jesus says it is ok to kill people in the name of religion and it is ok to force people to believe in him??
Shuaib • 3 years ago
Dear Alex.
I’m not here to argue, but do take into account the detailed reply you give in explaining verses of the Bible. The same applies to the Quran, but people unfortunately find it okay to give random quotes from the Quran without giving due consideration to its context or meaning.
I’m sure the Message of Jesus does not condone violence, I will not answer your final questions but present something from the Quran/Hadith that says the exact opposite.
“There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût and believes in God (ar. Allah), then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And God is All-Hearer, All-Knower” (Al-Baqara 256)
A person is either you brother in faith or an equal in humanity (Ali Ibn Talib (RA)- the 4th Caliph of Islam, PS: The other sect argues he should have been the immediate successor instead).
Alex • 3 years ago
Come on Shuaib. I have read the koran and the bible and they are hardly the same. I am not saying one is right and the other is wrong. It is a matter of personal belief. However we can not say the approaches of jesus and mohammed were the same can we that would be inaccurate.
You are right in the verse you quote from chapter 2 of the koran.
HOWEVER I give you two verses from later in the koran when Mohammed was in a more powerful position which contradict that earlier verse and which some see as justification for a lot of the violence today.
Sura 9:29- Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
“People of the Book” refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final “revelations” from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad’s companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.
The above verse is instructing muslims to fight and kill non believers until they are in a state of humiliation and then have to pay a religious tax imposed on them because they are non muslim.
How about this verse also from chapter 9 of the koran Shuaib?
Koran 9;5- So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”
According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion’s Five Pillars). Your claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses of the koran make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context of this verse is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.
Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
I must stress I respect all the world religions and believe in full religious freedom I am not here to be critical of any religion just be honest in what they say. Ps feel free to come back. It is not an argument, only a discussion. I am happy to agree to disagree my friend. Regards.
SilverSurfer • 3 years ago
Hi Alex,
The ayats you have mentioned above are absolutely out of context, and mistranslated. The Sura Tauba was reveled at the time of a battle situation, “battle of tabuk”. Here God is referring to a war situation where your enemy have broken the peace treaty(9:1),(9:4) and they are dangerous to you and your people. (The Byzantine army was preparing to demolish Muslim ground). Then God sends courage to Muslims saying
9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”
(find the difference)
before that also mentioned-
9:6 “And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.”
I think, this is one of the most asked question by non-muslims on Islamic TV shows/programs, and also extremists often misuse this verse.
Marry Christmas to you,
Regards
Alex • 3 years ago
I can’t see the significance of the alternative translation you have offered. It is still saying that Christians and Jews who do not accept the (islamic scripture) should be violently subjugated and forced to pay a tax(jiyza).
What has imposing a tax on people who don’t accept your religion got to do with self defence? What has violently subjugating someone because they don’t accept your religion ( which is what your alternative translation is saying) got to do with self defence?
As you well know the context is this revelation set in motion a tenacious military expansion where muslims conquered two thirds of the Christian world in the next hundred years.
Likewise the verse 9:5 reads ‘so when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolators wherever they find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor rate, leave their way free to them.’
This verse is specifically saying that the way to stay safe is to convert to Islam is to conduct islamic prayer (salat) and pay the poor tax (zakat).
You talk about context. The muslims this was written for were obviously not under attack as if they had been why were they waiting for the sacred months to pass? (Earlier verses of the koran made it a duty for muslims to fight in self defence even during the sacred months). So why were they waiting??? If it was self defence they wouldnt have waited.
The historical Context of this verse is Mecca after the idolators had been subjugated by Mohammed and posed no threat. Once the muslims were in power they violently evicted the non believers who would not convert.
The latter verse you quote 9:6 only reinforces what im saying. It is stating that if people submit to Islam then protect them so they can hear the words of Allah and become muslim. Again this is stating that non muslims can only be truly safe if they become muslim. Otherwise the best they can hope for is to be willingly humbled and pay a poor tax.
Furthermore perhaps you could explain what an ‘extremist’ is? (Your words) and how (extremists) misuse this verse?
Joel • 3 years ago
u should know one thing clearly ok. there s no god name allah, and islamism made by romans against christians and jews
starr • 2 years ago
alex verses in the bible that allow violence:
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)…
etc
AND ABOUT NON MUSLIMS PAYING TAXES TO THE MUSLIMS IT WAS COMMON AT THE TIME TO PAY TAX TO THE RULER..MUSLIMS DID NOT COLLECT TAX UNTIL THEY WERE THE POLITICAL RULER OF THE AREA…
“What do you think Simon? From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes – from their own sons or from others?” “From others” Peter answered. “Then the sons are exempt” Jesus said to him.” (Matthew 17:24-25).
They had in fact also enslaved the conquered peoples as was done by Joshua on the people of Canaan when he conquered them:
“They did not dislodge the Canaanites dwelling on Gezer ; to this day the Canaanites live among the people of Ephraim but are required to pay Jizya.” (Joshua 16:10).
Thus Joshua had both enslaved and levied Jizya(tax) on the people of Canaan .
Christianity did not abrogate any of the laws of Judaism. Christ(P) did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets, rather, he came to fulfill them (Matthew 5:17). Christ(P) even commanded his followers to pay the Jizya (tax) to the Romans and he himself had expediently paid it. He told Simon:
“Go to the lake and throw your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours.” (Matthew 17:24-27
Alex • 2 years ago
Firstly why do you always try and hide behind Christianity Starr?? If you believe in your religion defend it on its own merit not by trying to lump it in with Christianity. Secondly why quote verses from the old testament?? These were not the teachings of Jesus??
There is lots of violence in the old testament. Christians however believe in Jesus being the son of God. That is why Christians follow his teachings and example rather than the actions of David etc. The clue is in the title. Christianity is called Christianity not Davidianity.
If we look at the example of Jesus. He never stole, he never took slaves, he never killed people for inulting him or forced people to believe in him or his message.
Can you say the same thing about Mohammed????.
Secondly it is good that you are not disputing any of my above post. You are admitting that in Islam it is ok to force people to pay a religious tax if they are not muslim, and you seem to admit that the koran encourages Muslims to fight even when it is not in self defence. You haven’t challenged me on any of those points so I’m assuming that you accept them.
Secondly you try and say that it was common at the time to pay a tax to rulers of course to it was. It still is common to pay a tax isn’t it. I pay it every month:).lol. Of course Jesus instructed his followers to pay tax. Even today around the world Christians pay tax. We have no problem with that.
THE JIZYAH IS NOT AN ORDINARY TAX THOUGH IS IT STARR. The Jizyah is a discriminatory tax that is levied on non muslims because of their religion. Given the fact that it is clearly stated in the koran that muslims should fight to impose this tax on non muslims then this is not any normal tax is it?? It is insulting to everyones intelligence to say that this is an acceptable tax like what we pay to the tax man every month. This is a discriminatory tax!!! 🙂
Moreover your knowledge of Christianity is poor. Jizyah is an Arabic word and the concept of Jizyah is a muslim one it is not even a Jewish one let alone a Christian one. Needless to say I have never seen that word used in the bible. It mentions in the old testament about the canaanites performing forced labour but it is not a religious tax that discriminates against non believers in the same way that your jizyah does. So I can honestly say that what you are saying there is a complete distortion. Christianity does not believe in making people pay a tax because they are not Christian.
Secondly you quote Matthew 5:17 the verse you are talking about instructed us to follow the TEN COMMANDMENTS given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai. It specifically mentions and elaborates on this in Matthew 5:19 if you read on. It does mean that Christians have to follow all the other Jewish customs outlined in the old testament.
For example regarding the issue of food Jesus taught us that it does not matter what we eat as food goes in one end and comes out the other it is more important what is in our hearts. This is obviously a direct contradiction to what is stated in the old testament where it specifies clearly what food can be eaten.
Christians believe that Jesus mediates a New covenant relationship between God and his followers. The New covenant is the instrument through which God offers mercy and atonement to mankind. In simple terms we believe Jesus is the son of God and therefore we achieve salvation through him.
I have no problem with people believing what they want to believe but don’t distort other people religions Starr so you feel a bit better about what you believe. Regards.
Alex • 2 years ago
Correction to my above post. I wrote
Secondly you quote Matthew 5:17 the verse you are talking about instructed us to follow the TEN COMMANDMENTS given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai. It specifically mentions and elaborates on this in Matthew 5:19 if you read on. It DOESN’T mean that Christians have to follow all the other Jewish customs outlined in the old testament.
Cindy • 3 years ago
Luke 19:27 was part of a parable Jesus used to make a point….he was not telling anyone they would be executed for not wanting him to be King. Jesus frequently used parables to teach lessons to his followers.
walid • 3 years ago
oh u critics all there is pure beauty in the Quran and yet u still criticize it
Learning bout muslim • 3 years ago
Too bad you cant spell Koran right!
ben • 3 years ago
Quran or Koran both are legitimate spellings for that strange writing.
FYI: Names in a specific language, that have been brought in from a foreign language, often do Not have a strict spelling and variants exist – and rightly so.
may you be blessed forever.
Noah • 3 years ago
I am not against people who are Muslim, nor do I hate or discriminate against them. But do ya’ll realize that in the Quaran ( The Muslim version of the Bible) That it says to kill “kafirs” and “infidels”. It says to make war with unbeilevers wherever you find them. Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out … Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that … of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger. So to say that Muslim was intended for peace is false. Like I said Islam does not make me mad or angry, I am a American and i do not hate Muslims. In fact, I find that most Muslims culture and religion are interesting, that is why I study and know so much. I am Chirstian but I have sveral Muslim friends. I cannot say that every Muslim preaches violence cause most are nto. They say that only 2% percent of Muslims are violent…… most have become less violent. Just wanted to clear up that Islam was not meant to be a religion of peace.
Muhammad • 3 years ago
Hi Noah. First of all Quaran is not the Bible version. Bible has versions but Quaran has only one version since 1400 Years ago.Nothing has changed not even a single word. Secondly you did not mentioned the whole thing. it is like this:
“And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah (slander) is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram “Macca” until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.”
now it shows Muslims are not doing anything first it is the reaction which is caused by “Kafirs”
My Brother Islam is a peaceful religion.
Alex • 3 years ago
How about these verses from later on in the Koran Muhammad. Would you describe these as peaceful?
Sura 4;89- They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.
Sura 9-11-12″But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.”
Sura 9-29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
This last verse is basically saying that Muslims should fight the non believers until they are in a state of humiliation and then impose a tax on them.
It is documented in the hadiths that Mohammed also believed in killing people who left Islam (Bukhari) and condoned the killing of people who insulted Islam(Dawud) so for that reason I can not accept that Islam is peaceful.
You make a big deal about the koran never being copied and no word being changed. Don’t be too swayed by that my friend. If you don’t buy the message of Christianity fair enough but don’t be thinking that the message in the bible is in some way not the real message.
New Testament manuscripts agree in 99.5% of the text. Most of the discrepancies are in spelling and word order. There are two passages that are disputed but no discrepancy is of any doctrinal significance (i.e., NONE WOULD ALTER BASIC CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE).
Moreover most Bibles include the options as footnotes when there are discrepancies.
The fact remains that the new testament preaches a message of peace. Jesus the son of God preaches a message for mankind to follow for the rest of time. His lessons and teachings as relevant now as they were then. He demonstrated to the world a better way from the violence and ritual of the old testament. He preached that it is not what we put in our mouths, how we dress or how we pray that is important but what is in our hearts and how we treat other people that is important. This is first, second and third. Jesus preached that we should follow the ten commandments that God gave to Moses but we should also love thy neighbour.(Regardless of their background). This is the message of Christ.
Finally Jesus never forced anyone to believe in him even his own disciples. He didn’t believe in killing in Gods name. Therefore as Christians we believe in full religious freedom.
walid • 3 years ago
may god give u guidance
Gamal • 3 years ago
About 4:89….
Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you, their hearts strained at [the prospect of] fighting you or fighting their own people. And if Allah had willed, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them. 4:90
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9:11 Says that if your enemies convert to Islam, then they are your brothers.
And if they break their oaths after their treaty and defame your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief, for indeed, there are no oaths [sacred] to them; [fight them that] they might cease. 9:12
Would you not fight a people who broke their oaths and determined to expel the Messenger, and they had begun [the attack upon] you the first time? Do you fear them? But Allah has more right that you should fear Him, if you are [truly] believers. 9:13
It is important to read the verses before, after, and the full verses too. It is also important that you have the correct translation.
Just like the Jews were persecuted by the Pharoah, the Christians were persecuted by the Romans, the Muslims were also persecuted by some Pagan Arab tribes.
And of course…. we have 9:29. It is talking about wealthy non-Muslims who refuse to give money to charity. Anyways….
Anything else you want to add?
Alex • 3 years ago
:)Gamal the koran says.
Sura 9:29- Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
“People of the Book” refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. This was one of the final “revelations” from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad’s companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.
Your explanation is that this is talking about wealthy non muslims who refuse to give to charity is ridiculous. Who would read that and take that message from it???
The above verse is instructing muslims to fight and kill non believers until they are in a state of humiliation and then have to pay a religious tax imposed on them because they are non muslim.
Your explanation for suras 9-11 and 4-80 is basically saying that if people convert to Islam and/or don’t seek to challenge Mohammed than they are safe. Obviously no room for freedom of religion or expression there either is there.
How about this later verse from the koran Gamal?
Koran 9;5- So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”
According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion’s Five Pillars). Your claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses of the koran make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context of this verse is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.
Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.
In this day and age people can read things for themselves? Nobody can say one religion or another is correct. We all have our own beliefs but to try and deny aspects of your faith is strange. Regards.
Muhammad • 3 years ago
Conditions of War
“Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”
(Qur’an, 2:190)
Contrary to popular misconception, the Qur’anic verse stating, “Kill them wherever you encounter them” (2:191) does not categorically permit (let alone promote!) killing of Non-Muslims. Rather, this verse was revealed in relation to a specific stage of persecutory war against Muslims in the history of Islam; and its ordinance is obviously confined to warfare. The fourteen-hundred-year heritage of Islamic rule in Arabia and beyond testifies to religious tolerance exhorted by the Qur’an.
And why—if there is any explanation other than deliberate mischaracterization and slander—why can’t critics who use this verse read other general decrees that place strict limits on warfare? For instance, the verse just before it, which says, “But begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors” (2:190). Or the verses just after it, stating, “But if they desist, then lo! God is Forgiving, Merciful” (2:192).
Scenarios under which taking a life is permissible according to the Qur’an are extremely limited. The Qur’an permits between-group killing, or “collateral damage”, during warfare in hand-to-hand combat with male, combatant enemy soldiers. In domestic affairs, Islamic law permits execution by judicial sentence in cases of premeditated manslaughter [1]; a tooth for a tooth whether Muslim or Non-Muslim.
In Islam, it is never permissible to attack or kill non-combatant enemy citizens, children, elderly, or women. Non-Muslims not waging war against Muslims possess Islamic state’s protection of their right to life, according to the Qur’an. In fact, the Qur’an enjoins forgiveness, indulgence, tolerance, and kindness toward Non-Muslims.
Part 2: Conditions of Peace
“Help ye one another unto righteousness and pious duty.”
(Qur’an, 5:2)
Far from simply not killing Non-Muslims, Islam promotes an ideal ethic of cooperative piety with Non-Muslims who are at peace with Muslim states. The Qur’an also discusses basic rights of Non-Muslims, such as the right to life, freedom of religion, and property. Furthermore, the Qur’an offers specific guidelines to promote religious tolerance.
Ø Freedom of Religion in the Qur’an
Religion with God is Islam. However, there is no compulsion in religion. Humankind is created free to choose good or evil. No person can reach into another’s heart, place faith therein, cleanse filth, or soften hardness. Individual choice is an integral facet of religious devotion, and the Qur’an acknowledge this in the verse, “There is no compulsion in religion” (2:256). Furthermore, the Qur’an draws firm limits toward entrenched thinking in relation to Non-Muslims. It states, “Had God willed, they had not been idolatrous. We have not set thee as a keeper over them, nor art thou responsible for them” (6:107). Here, the Qur’an instructs us to recognize Non-Muslims’ religious self-sovereignty and to leave them alone!
Freedom of religion is the cornerstone of religious tolerance; and it is clearly established in the Qur’an.
MORE REFERENCE: english.islammessage.com/Article…
Alex. • 3 years ago
Muhammad you are not giving the full picture my friend. Firstly lets start with the koran. These are direct quotes from the Koran which encourage violence and I challenge your view that Islam allows freedom of religion.
Sura 4;89- They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.
Sura 9-11-12″But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.”
Sura 9-29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
Here I have given you direct quotes from the Koran that specifically encourage violence!
Secondly lets look at what Mohammed himself says about violence. These quotes are taken from Bukahri considered by muslims to be one of the most reliable hadiths.
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet (Mohammed) said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle (Mohammed), ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh (Mohammed) asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mohammed to sit down but Mu’adh (Mohammed) said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
Moreover other hadiths accepted by muslim scholars describe how people were killed for insulting Mohammed
1) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995) explains how a woman was killed for insulting Mohammed by writing a poem.
2) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819) Abu Dawud 2678) explain how 2 slave girls were killed for insulting Mohammed by singing a song.
3) Abu Dawud 38:4348 explain how a blind man killed his wife after she insulted Mohammed. This was condoned by Mohammed.
How can you say that Islam does not condone violence. I really think you need to study your own religion Muhammad as you don’t seem to know the first thing about it.
I look forward to your reply.
Muhammad • 3 years ago
I don’t understand why you did not mention the things which shows the situation. you only mention the things which are against muslims. just check your facts and then post it. i hope you will understand after reading this why Muhammad said all those words. think if you can.
Bukhari (83:37) – Allah’s Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate.”
Alex • 3 years ago
But Muhammad sorry my friend you completely ignore the other 3 verses. These verses are taken directly from the Bukhari hadith. You are giving one verse. I am giving you FIVE my friend. FIVE verses that say if someone leaves Islam they should be killed!!
Read these.
Bukhari (84:64-65) – “Allah’s Apostle: ‘During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.'”
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet (Mohammed) said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle (Mohammed), ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh (Mohammed) asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mohammed to sit down but Mu’adh (Mohammed) said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’.
Bukhari (89:271) – A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to “the verdict of Allah and his apostle.”
Where does it say that this Jew had fought against Islam? This is not specified at all. He was killed because he reverted to judaism not because he had fought against muslims otherwise this would have been specified.
1) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995) explains how a woman was killed for insulting Mohammed by writing a poem.
2) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819) Abu Dawud 2678) explain how 2 slave girls were killed for insulting Mohammed by singing a song.
3) Abu Dawud 38:4348 explain how a blind man killed his wife after she insulted Mohammed. This was condoned by Mohammed.
How about the slave girls who were killed for writing a poem? What had they done to deserve such a fate? Or the woman who was killed for writing a poem about Mohammed? Were they fighting against Islam? and what do you define as fighting against Islam, writing a poem, singing a song?? Is this fighting against Islam?
You ask why I only quote references that show muslims in a bad light. Are you admitting that these references show muslims in a bad light because I am not making them up. They are direct references from your own literature.
Alex • 3 years ago
Oh and you asked for the context? Ok heres the context.
Firstly this is the quote.
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh (Mohammed) asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mohammed to sit down but Mu’adh (Mohammed) said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’.
For the readers who have never read the hadith of Bukhari the context that Muhammad talks about is this.
A man approached Mohammed and asked him for employment. Mohammed who was brushing his teeth at the time asked who the man was? It was explained to Mohammed that the man had reverted from Islam to Judaism so Mohammed decided that the Jewish man should be killed and ordered the man to be killed which he subsequently was? That is the context. If you don’t believe me look it up for yourselves.
Muhammad • 3 years ago
Conditions of War
“Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”
(Qur’an, 2:190)
Contrary to popular misconception, the Qur’anic verse stating, “Kill them wherever you encounter them” (2:191) does not categorically permit (let alone promote!) killing of Non-Muslims. Rather, this verse was revealed in relation to a specific stage of persecutory war against Muslims in the history of Islam; and its ordinance is obviously confined to warfare. The fourteen-hundred-year heritage of Islamic rule in Arabia and beyond testifies to religious tolerance exhorted by the Qur’an.
And why—if there is any explanation other than deliberate mischaracterization and slander—why can’t critics who use this verse read other general decrees that place strict limits on warfare? For instance, the verse just before it, which says, “But begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors” (2:190). Or the verses just after it, stating, “But if they desist, then lo! God is Forgiving, Merciful” (2:192).
Scenarios under which taking a life is permissible according to the Qur’an are extremely limited. The Qur’an permits between-group killing, or “collateral damage”, during warfare in hand-to-hand combat with male, combatant enemy soldiers. In domestic affairs, Islamic law permits execution by judicial sentence in cases of premeditated manslaughter [1]; a tooth for a tooth whether Muslim or Non-Muslim.
In Islam, it is never permissible to attack or kill non-combatant enemy citizens, children, elderly, or women. Non-Muslims not waging war against Muslims possess Islamic state’s protection of their right to life, according to the Qur’an. In fact, the Qur’an enjoins forgiveness, indulgence, tolerance, and kindness toward Non-Muslims.
shabaan • 3 years ago
my brother , because you are blind that’s why you believe that, because blind believe that that there is something called a car, but he doesn’t see it, you can learn islam from the enemies of islam itself, you need to lean islam from the muslims, IF ISLAM IS REALLY 666 WHAT IS THE MEANING OF VICARIUS FIL IDEI ? this is mentioned ot the POPE’s hat if you when school and you learned ROMAN’S NUMBER you will get your really answer and you will never call islam as 666 thank you
Sandy Casey Myers • 3 years ago
666, that means sixth seal, sixth trump, sixth vial. it i am sure u all know comes from the king james bible, something i am thinking u guys, have some knowledge about but yall sure like to argue alot, sorry about that just sayin. i was reading this stuff and just thought i would explain the 666. good luck u yall. sandy
Osita • 3 years ago
Hasan has to understand my point, i know that some causes of the violence in islamic nations are politically motivated, but if atall you read my end points i said that these wars are because of political and religious fusions! For example, the prophet Mohammed held both political and religious leadership positions of his time, and there were “poli-religious” battles, for dominance and that is the case uptill now. ……….Know one thing; “religion is holy, politics is power”. Holiness is straight foward but power can be achieved through any means including force and war. So religion and politics cannot be fused, but can work together, individually……… or may i suggest for you that the religion ‘islam’ was misconceptualized? I gave an idea that if these can be seperated?…….but it is a fact. They cannot be separeted! Because ….”islam will lose its ‘beauty’………” according to some extremists. And remember, i made mention of other factors that incite violence, destruction of lives and properties; those factors familiar with islam.
Osita • 3 years ago
Hasan has to understand my point, i know that some cause of the violence in islamic nations are politically motivated, but if atall you read my end points i said that these wars are because of political and religious fusions! For example, the prophet Mohammed held both political and religious leadership positions of his time, and there were “poli-religious” battles, for dominance and that is the case uptill now. ……….Know one thing; “religion is holy, politics is power”. Holiness is straight foward but power can be achieved through any means including force and war. So religion and politics cannot be fused, but can work together, individually……… or may i suggest for you that the religion ‘islam’ was misconceptualized? I gave an idea that if these can be seperated?…….but it is a fact. They cannot be separeted! Because ….”islam will lose its ‘beauty’………” according to some extremists. And remember, i made mention of other factors that incite violence, destruction of lives and properties; those factors familiar with islam.
Tom • 3 years ago
See what organised religion does to human beings? Read the comments below and weep for humanity is a lost cause.
Why don’t we stop putting other humans into boxes in our heads? He’s not a Muslim he’s a PERSON. He’s not a Christian he’s a HUMAN BEING.
People who do bad things are bad people. People who don’t do bad things are good people.
I’m neither Muslim NOR Christian but the conversation in this thread fills me with sadness.
Muhammad • 3 years ago
Conditions of War
“Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”
(Qur’an, 2:190)
Contrary to popular misconception, the Qur’anic verse stating, “Kill them wherever you encounter them” (2:191) does not categorically permit (let alone promote!) killing of Non-Muslims. Rather, this verse was revealed in relation to a specific stage of persecutory war against Muslims in the history of Islam; and its ordinance is obviously confined to warfare. The fourteen-hundred-year heritage of Islamic rule in Arabia and beyond testifies to religious tolerance exhorted by the Qur’an.
And why—if there is any explanation other than deliberate mischaracterization and slander—why can’t critics who use this verse read other general decrees that place strict limits on warfare? For instance, the verse just before it, which says, “But begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors” (2:190). Or the verses just after it, stating, “But if they desist, then lo! God is Forgiving, Merciful” (2:192).
Scenarios under which taking a life is permissible according to the Qur’an are extremely limited. The Qur’an permits between-group killing, or “collateral damage”, during warfare in hand-to-hand combat with male, combatant enemy soldiers. In domestic affairs, Islamic law permits execution by judicial sentence in cases of premeditated manslaughter [1]; a tooth for a tooth whether Muslim or Non-Muslim.
In Islam, it is never permissible to attack or kill non-combatant enemy citizens, children, elderly, or women. Non-Muslims not waging war against Muslims possess Islamic state’s protection of their right to life, according to the Qur’an. In fact, the Qur’an enjoins forgiveness, indulgence, tolerance, and kindness toward Non-Muslims.
walid • 3 years ago
may god bless u
Tom • 3 years ago
That’s a very interesting reply – thank you. However – it does not speak to one word of my post that you replied to.
Osita • 3 years ago
1.6billion muslims…just a little more than the total number of “catholics” which is about 1.1billion, not to talk about other christian denomination. The reason, upon the fact that muslims are allowed to marry as many as four wives as possible, make babies in countless numbers all in the name of “going into the world and multiply”, there are still more christians. What i am saying in essence, am not concerned about the numbers but the fact that people have come of age to know the difference from good and bad, they have decided to follow christianity which surely when put in “contrast” with islam gives a better “resolution” in all; religious, spiritual, moral social and economic values. Think about this, most of the war-tore zones of the world are where islam dominates, therefore causing a “faith implosion” and not sparing other non muslims. I tell you solemnly and quote me ….”by the time islam as a religion seperates politics from their religion and apply socio-economic ideologies of the present world to what is contained in the quran of ancient civilization, then that can become a first big step in bringing socour to the to their social and religious colapse”. Call on for more good ideas to make islam a peaceful religion not by words so we humans can live as one, “humans” and not divided by “religion”.
Hasan • 3 years ago
That sounded very ignorant… religion does not call for war people do. Islam literally translates to (Peace and total submission/surrender to the will of Allah (God)). I am not bashing your views but brash statements about things you really don’t have a full understanding about is the root of the problems and misunderstanding that divide us as Human Beings. Those wars being fought in the so called war torn countries arent over religion at all there over politics; global struggles for power and status in echonomically rich areas. In terms of oil, hash, opiums and other natural resources… please take time to actually study things for yourself before you generalize the lives and beliefs of billions of peoples based upon here say and false news outlets. Oh and as far as blood shed is concerned, how many countless millions were slaughtered durning the cursades? And as far as serperating the “religion” from politics how many were sent to war, put to death, or condemned by the Pope (a relgious and poilitical figure head for the church)? This happened for centuries and yet your faith has still negelected to absolve bishops and popes of there political powers. Islam is a way of life not a religion. The western world is just trying to catagorize it. I am not going to argue with you about which is better i’m simply sheding light on multipul subjects its clear you don’t understand in depth… there is always several ways to view a painting and there is always several sides to a story. Its ill advised to take part of one view/point and run with it blindly. This is the root of all ignorance. my place is not to tell you which belief system is better for I nor any man for that matter has the power to dictate where someone elses soul will go after death. All this being said go in peace and towards understanding my Chirsitian friend.
Alex • 3 years ago
I’m sorry Hasan Islam does not mean peace it means Submission to the will of God. Where do you get the peace bit from?? I’m afraid it is you who is ignorant my friend. Osita makes a good point when she says that the only religion today who think it is acceptable to use violence in the name of God is Islam.
How can you claim that a religion is peaceful when you are not allowed to leave it. When leaving it is punishable by death! How is that peaceful? Could you explain to readers of the board precisely what ‘apostasy’ is and when it should be applied? Did your prophet not say some of the following during his lifetime?
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mohammed asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mohammed to sit down but Mohammed said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
These are quotes from Bukhari a highly respectable hadith are they not. I haven;t got that from fox news or CNN have I? Maybe you could reply and explain exactly what the prophet Mohammed meant by these statements? I await your reply with interest.
Alex • 3 years ago
Ps The pope is a human. Popes in medieval times I’m sure did use the church for political gain. However the reason that Christians are able to deal easily with the issue of violence is because Jesus preached a message of peace and mutual respect. Jesus didn’t believe it was right to force people to believe in him. Jesus didn’t force anyone to believe in him even his own disciples. That is why Christians believe in freedom of religion and we do not believe in killing people in the name of God.
Sadie • 3 years ago
Hey ALex- just to give my point in the conversation, Islam does mean peace, obedience and submission to God. I don’t get it why are you so against the religion of Islam, when Muslims believe in one God, and you say that you also believe in one God, but adding to that you say that Jesus (PBUH) is the son of God, and that is what we don’t believe. so it ends up being we believe in same God, except Muslims don’t believe that Jesus(PBUH) is the son of God, we believe that He is the Messenger of God. just clearing up the basics. now if we come to the point, where do you see in our Holy book (Quran) does it tell us to go on and kill people?? No where, is there any saying(Hadith) by Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) that tells Muslims to kill others??? Do you know that we are not eve suppose to hurt anyone, I’m a muslim, plus a human being, so If I do smthng wrong emotional hurt anyone I’m being a human, I am a normal person, even all muslims are. why are they being judged all the time by their religion? when they can’t find a single word from our scripture that tells us to kill innocent people?? I do respect other religions, but I expect them to respect mine as well.
Alex • 3 years ago
Sadie you are wrong on so many levels I don’t know where to begin. You don’t seem to know your own religion. Firstly you do not seem to know your own Koran and hadiths. Lets start with the koran. These are direct quotes from the Koran which encourage violence.
Sura 4;89- They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.
Sura 9-11-12″But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.”
Sura 9-29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
Here I have given you direct quotes from the Koran that specifically encourage violence!
Secondly lets look at what Mohammed himself says about violence. These quotes are taken from Bukahri considered by muslims to be one of the most reliable hadiths.
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet (Mohammed) said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle (Mohammed), ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh (Mohammed) asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mohammed to sit down but Mu’adh (Mohammed) said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
Moreover Sadie other hadiths accepted by muslim scholars describe how people were killed for insulting Mohammed
1) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995) explains how a woman was killed for insulting Mohammed by writing a poem.
2) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819) Abu Dawud 2678) explain how 2 slave girls were killed for insulting Mohammed by singing a song.
3) Abu Dawud 38:4348 explain how a blind man killed his wife after she insulted Mohammed. This was condoned by Mohammed.
How can you say that Islam does not condone violence. I really think you need to study your own religion Sadie as you don’t seem to know the first thing about it. Regards.
Alex • 3 years ago
In contrast Jesus preached a message of peace and mutual respect. Jesus didn’t believe it was right to force people to believe in him. Jesus didn’t force anyone to believe in him even his own disciples. That is why Christians believe in freedom of religion and we do not believe in killing people in the name of God.
Im sorry Sadie good luck with following your religion but lets not pretend that the God or the values in Christianity are in anyway similar to that in Islam. It really is not the case and if you think it is you don’t know the bible or the koran. Best of luck.
ps Sadie I am not against anyone. I am simply stating facts if you disagree with the facts or my references feel free to correct me. But don’t take it personally. Take care.
Nawaz • 3 years ago
and what would you do if your prophet was slandered? nothing, is that how much love you have for Jesus (isa) AS?
Kan • 2 years ago
So you say Jesus ONLY preached peace and love. Let’s take a look at this…
“But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.'” Luke 19:27
In Islam, Muslims believe that there is only one way of life. Jesus (PBUH) was a messenger of God, among the 124,000 messengers that were sent to the Earth. Now… Muslims do not believe that there is another “new” or “old” religion. We believe the only way of life is “SUBMITTING YOUR WILL TO GOD”. Whether you call yourself muslim, christian, etc…, if you submit your will to the ONE GOD, we muslims call that believer a “Muslim” who submits his will. JUST LIKE HOW JESUS DID and TAUGHT.
“By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.” in other words, he’s submitting himself.
That is why there is such a debate here. People think there is ANOTHER religion, where as different prophets brought messages for their people and their time. Muhammad was the last and final prophet, the seal, and guided mankind – just as it is in the bible.
12″I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13″But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.”.
NOW I ASK… WHICH MAN AFTER JESUS GLORIFIED JESUS.
THAT SHOULD HELP. So please..
IF YOU HAVE NOT STUDIED ISLAM, PLEASE DON’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM.
May Allah Guide you.
Alex • 2 years ago
To be honest Kan I can’t really understand the purpose of your post.
Firstly you are NOT quoting Jesus there you are quoting a King who was in one of the parables that Jesus told. The verse you have quoted comes from a story Jesus told about a master and his servant and what could happen if people were dishonest. He is demonstrating that if you are honest you will get everything in life and if you tell lies you will get nothing. IT IS THE MASTER IN THE STORY WHO SAYS BRING HIM IN FRONT OF ME NOT JESUS:). So sorry NO violence there Kan!!
Jesus did not preach violence against anyone. He didn’t force anyone to believe in him not even his own disciples.
You’ve explained your position as a muslim. As a Christian we believe that jesus is the son of God and his is the example we follow. We do NOT accept he is just another messenger.
From a biblical point of view Kan, Mohammed broke most of the commandments given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai. Therefore it would make very little sense for God to send a man down as his last messenger who breaks the commandments that were supposed to stand until the end of time??
(Read the ten commandments and if you know Islam as well as you claim to have a look at how many of the commandments Mohammed broke!)
Mohammed also broke the main commandment of Jesus which was to love thy neighbour (not love thy Christian neighbour.). Do you believe Jesus would have adopted the same approach to apostates for example or people who he believed had insulted him as Mohammed did?
Therefore to Christians we just cannot accept him. Put simply it is impossible to believe in Jesus and Mohammed. They taught completely different messages. Yes they both spoke of one God but aside from that they are poles apart in their teachings and methods.
We cannot say who is right or wrong but I honestly believe Christianity and Islam are different religions and I think it is wrong to lump us all under the one umbrella simply because we believe in one God.
Regards.
Nawaz • 3 years ago
in the bible the following verses can be found
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)
so where is the freedom you talk about alex and the only religion that’s kills in Gods name is clearly Christianity..do I bit of research into your own book first before commenting on others…or as they say before you cast judgement on other take a close look at yourself first…in this case very very close…
im not being ignorant or rude just saying…
Alex • 3 years ago
Hi Nawaz. Thank you for your reply. You are not being rude you are entitled to your opinion. However I feel you are completely wrong as I will explain below.
Firstly all the quotes you have given in your above email are from the old testament. Is the old testament of the bible violent? Yes!! Just like the koran it is extremely violent in parts.
What exactly is your point? I don’t remember saying that the old testament was not violent.:)
What you need to understand is the HUGE difference between Christianity and Islam is that AS CHRISTIANS WE FOLLOW THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS WHO WE BELIEVE IS THE SON OF GOD. THAT IS WHY CHRISTIANITY IS CALLED CHRISTIANITY NOT DAVIDIANITY:). We believe that Jesus is the son of God so his teachings obviouly take precedence over everything else.
Christians believe that Jesus came to Earth and preached a message of peace and forgiveness that mankind should follow until the end of time. A message that is as relevant now as it was then. He told us to follow the 10 commandments given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai etc but he also told us to love thy neighbour (not love thy Christian neighbour) and treat others with respect regardless of background, so if we killed people for slandering him we would hardly be doing that would we? He taught us the love and respect for other people that Christians try and follow today.
Jesus for Christians is the perfect example of moral and ethical behaviour. When we look at the life of Jesus he never killed anyone for insulting him, never took slaves, never forced anyone to believe in him. That is why Christians do not believe that it is acceptable to kill people in the name of God.
The problem that muslims have is that their example of moral and ethical behaviour is Mohammed. When we look at Mohammed and his life then you can see why muslims struggle with the issue of violence.
Mohammed felt it was acceptable to kill people for insulting him. Mohammed also believed it was acceptable to kill people in the name of God.
Mohammed felt it was ok to kill people for leaving Islam.
Moreover other actions Mohammed performed in his life are inherently violent. Mohammed took women captured in battle as slaves and allowed his men to have sex with these women, (Whether this is adultery or rape would depend on whether you think women whose fathers and brothers had just been killed by a group of men would then enter sex willingly with the same group of men!!).
Mohammed also raided caravans and encouraged his followers to keep things that did not belong to them. Weren’t muslims allowed to keep war booty they raided as long they gave a third of it to the cause of Islam?? Isn’t this stealing?
If he was Gods last messenger surely that is all ok still now isn’t it? If he is the last messenger his teachings should be as relevant today as they were then? Is that not the case?
Doesn’t 4:80 of the Koran say whosoeth obeyeth the messenger obeyeth allah? After all without Mohammed Islam is meaningless as it doesn’t introduce any single original moral value to the world only this messenger Mohammed.
Secondly you asked if I respect Jesus. Yes I respect Jesus. If someone chooses to slander Jesus though NO I do not believe that person should be killed. If God is so powerful why should he need us to kill in his name. It is between God and that person whether they believe in him, not for other people to act like God and kill on his behalf. What kind of religion needs to kill people because they question it, criticise it or disagree with it?
Perhaps in your next email you YOU COULD GIVE ME EXAMPLES WHERE THE SON OF GOD JESUS ENCOURAGES VIOLENCE IN ANY WAY/FORCES PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN HIM ETC???? That would be more impressive than a few quotes from Leviticus. Hope this email finds you in good health regards.
Alex • 3 years ago
Ok Nawaz lets see! I’ve made this very simple for you.
JESUS- (Example of moral behaviour for Christians to follow.)
1)Never forced anyone to believe in him, not even his own disciples.
2)Never killed anyone.
3)Taught us to follow the ten commandments including thou shalt not kill.
4)Taught us to love and respect our fellow man (Regardless of religion).
>Therefore I think we can conclude that Christianity is compatible with religious freedom and I think we can categorically state that Christians do not believe it is acceptable to kill people in the name of God.
On the other hand!
MOHAMMED-(the moral example for muslims to follow.)
1) Taught that it was ok to kill people for disrespecting Islam.
2) Taught that it was ok to kill people for leaving Islam.
>I think you can draw your own conclusions from that about whether Islam allows for freedom of religion and justifies violence in Gods name.!!!
Very simply that is where I draw my conclusions from Nawaz.
shabaan • 3 years ago
if i may ask ! how many muslims are being killed around the world, since our beloved prophet started to preach ISLAM no one cares about, or you want to tell me blood of muslims are free come on guys don’t be selfish ! muslims don’t rest look all the muslim’s countrys all over the world, but till now are you blaming islam and muslims ! guys you can’t be serious !
Maheen • 3 years ago
Christianity has been around much longer than Islam has, that’s why there are more Christians than Muslims in the world. If you think this has anything to do with people differentiating from right or wrong, you have obviously not read the Quran. Do you know how many Christians are converting to Islam?
mohammad nazmul hossain • 3 years ago
still have the chance for non believers to come into the faith in islam and Allah upto death
Tony. • 3 years ago
Firstly the quotes you are quoting come from the old testament. Christianity came after Christ in the new testament. Secondly the quotes are from orders by God himself. If as a Muslim you claim that Allah is God as of the God of Abraham then the same God gave these orders otherwise your God is a different God. Hence using these quotes about violence in the Bible is mute. Also please note that these rules were important to the early Israelite’s because they were being brought out of Egypt and since many lived and grew in that culture they adopted Egyptian way’s and so those way’s needed to be purged from them, thus the forty years wandering in the desert. As an example, when the Isaelite’s made the golden calf and worshiped it, they were going back to Egyptian pagan practices involving sexual perverseness. As temple prostitutes were used in Egyptian rituals. Obviously God could not permit these practices from continuing.
Kan • 2 years ago
Tony,
You must understand that the “Old Testament” and the “New Testament” are like sequels. Now, please be truthful. Have you read the bible? Because if you have carefully read it, then you should’ve came across this:
“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. Matthew” 5:17
I’ll leave it to you to read the verse after that and god willingly you will believe.
Alex • 2 years ago
You’re absolutely right Kan but I don’t think you understand the verse you are quoting otherwise I am pretty sure you would not be quoting it. The law of the prophets is actually summarised by the ten commandments Kan. The ten commandments that were given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai. If you read on in Matthew chapter 5, it says 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the Kingdom of heaven.
(If you read the rest of the chapter it clearly explains this. Unfortunately this is slightly problematic for you Kan as Mohammed breaks many of these ten commandments.)
In the new testament Jesus reaffirmed these ten commandments from the Old Testament and strengthened them by highlighting not only the physical side of the commandments but the spiritual side as well. E.g the old testaments says don’t commit adultery Jesus by emphasising the spiritual side would emphasise this by saying love and respect your wife and don’t have romantic feelings towards any other. Likewise the old testament says don’t steal from others. By emphasising the spiritual side Jesus would be saying try and be happy others are doing well if this makes sense.
In other words Jesus is emphasising and adding new depth to Moses 10 commandments from the old testament.
I hope this makes things clearer to you Kan.
This is what Jesus was talking about when he said don’t think I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.
Regards again Kan.
Abas Kedir • 3 years ago
Amazing!
I thought the majority of Muslims live in Middle East.
Pam • 3 years ago
Interesting article. I dont know how accurate the statistics are but I think these statistics are as accurate as you could possibly be. A lot of people posting below. I am a Christian and try to be respectful of everyones faith. I think we need to push for full religious freedom in all countries and end discrimination against minorities the world over. I think we can all agree on that can’t we? It is 2013 no more blood should be shed in the name of religion. God bless.
Rangoon • 3 years ago
What about the growth of atheists in the world. More and more people are leaving organised religion altogether?
Alex • 3 years ago
@aishara so you criticise the debate and then get involved in it yourself.:)I have given you the references below of where Mohammed condoned killing people who insulted him and condoned the killing of people for leaving Islam, condoned lying, condoned stealing, took slaves, allowed his followers to have sex with captives (whether you call it rape or adultery depends on whether you believe women whose fathers and brothers had just been killed by a group of men would then enter sex willingly with the same men). I dont believe they would. Do you???
Perhaps you could give me one example where jesus took slaves, stole, killed people. The truth is he never did. Most significantly he never forced people to believe in him even his own disciples.
Your point about hitler is a silly one. Where did jesus say that 6million jews should be killed? So therefore how could anyone say that Christianity caused that.:). Maybe you could give me the verse of the new testament where jesus preaches this.:)
In contrast the problem islam has got is that many of the actions that mohammed performed during his lifetime are used as justification for terrorist attacks today.
It seems common to blame propoganda and say everyone is against Islam. I am not against anything. I look at things objectively and form my own opinions based on the evidence. All the references I have previously given are from your own hadiths. Perhaps you could outline which of the hadiths I have quoted are false and therefore not to be followed. To simply blame propoganda is a poor argument and looks like you havent got answers.
Regards.
Mislem • 3 years ago
Please read the Quran and it will change your live. You will loss nothing by reading the Quran. Just give it try. I promise you will not regret it
Marco • 3 years ago
For Mislem. Actually I am reading the Qur’an and I started doing it without any prejudice. I am quite upset by the high level of intolerance and hatred contained in it against non Muslims in particular. I wonder if Muslims really read and understand it, otherwise how can they accept such incitations to intolerance? In my opinion the aggressive Medina Qur’an should be put aside and leave place to the Mecca Qur’an as a famous Islamic scholar like Mahmoud Taha said in his books. Unfortunately he was put to death for that.
Jane Doe • 3 years ago
Alex, nothing of what you said about Mohammad is true. It’s Western propaganda, concocted to criminalize Islam and promote the perceived supremacy of Christianity.
There are texts that attribute horrendous acts (similar to those which you attributed to Mohammad) to Jesus, but I don’t believe them and I’m not going to promote them either, because as a Muslim, and a follower of Mohammad’s lifestyle, I respect all peoples from all religions and do not believe in vilifying their beliefs. Merry Christmas to you, and I hope the New Year brings you the happiness you deserve. May Allah bless you. x
Alex • 3 years ago
Merry Christmas to you as well Jane Doe. Firstly I am not here to judge anyone elses beliefs
All the examples I have given are taken from your own hadiths/Koran. How can they be Western propoganda? Perhaps you can explain to me which of the above references that I have given from the hadiths you do not accept and we can go from there.
All the references I have quoted are from hadiths that are recognised by Islamic scholars. So they are from your own literature??? I am not quoting an article I have read on the internet. IT IS YOUR OWN LITERATURE.
ps I’d be interested to know whereabouts in the bible it attributes horrendous acts to Jesus?:0. Many thanks. x
Maheen • 3 years ago
The Quran provides for emancipation of a slave as a means of religious atonement for sins. One of the five pillars of Islam, zakat, is meant to encourage Muslims to donate money to free slaves and bonded in countries where slaves and bonded laborers may exist, in the hope that over time there will be no slaves left in that country. Muhammad would send his companions like Abu Bakr and Uthman ibn Affan to buy slaves to free. Many early converts to Islam were the poor and former slaves like Bilal ibn Rabah al-Habashi. If you think Prophet Muhammad was a bad person for buying slaves to free them, I question whether or not you’re a good person yourself.
Condones killing of non-believers? What many people often do is take one surah out of the whole Quran and look at just that, but really you need to look at the Quran as a whole. When the prophet (pbuh) was being abused, tortured, and persecuted by the Meccans, God gave him permission to defend himself and fight against the Meccans. These are the “violent” surahs you see in the Quran. Obviously if you take this out of context, it will seem like the Quran is preaching violence against non-Muslims. let me show you two surahs:
2:193 – And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.
2:216 – Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
If you were to look at these surahs without looking at the whole Quran, of course it will seem like Islam preaches violence! In actuality, this was the permission granted to Muhammad to defend himself against the Meccans.
These surahs were meant for Muslims who are oppressed and are being persecuted. For all Muslims in general, the killing and murdering of non-Muslims is forbidden in Islam.
Manchester • 3 years ago
You are completely ignoring later verses of the koran Maheen.
Sura 9:29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the last day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and his messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the scripture (fight)until they give the jizyah willingly.
You claim self defence. Can I ask Maheen what has imposing a tax on people who don’t accept your religion got to do with self defence? What has violently subjugating someone because they don’t accept your religion got to do with self defence. The context is this revelation set in motion a tenacious military expansion where muslims conquered two thirds of the Christian world in the next hundred years.
Likewise the verse 9:5 reads ‘so when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolators wherever they find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor rate, leave their way free to them.’
This verse is specifically saying that the way to stay safe is to convert to Islam is to conduct islamic prayer (salat) and pay the poor tax (zakat).
You talk about self defence. The muslims this was written for were obviously not under attack as if they had been why were they waiting for the sacred months to pass? (Earlier verses of the koran made it a duty for muslims to fight in self defence even during the sacred months). So why were they waiting??? If it was self defence they wouldnt have waited. So sorry it cant all be explained away by self defence.
The historical Context of this verse is Mecca after the idolators had been subjugated by Mohammed and posed no threat. Once the muslims were in power they violently evicted the non believers who would not convert. Hardly self defence is it?
Can you explain then why Mohammed took women captured in battle as slaves and allowed his followers to have sexual relations with them? Sura 4-24, abu dawud 2150?
Regards.
Aishara • 3 years ago
Just my two-cents here:
How did an article on the Muslim population turn into an argument/debate on whether Christianity or Islam is the right religion?
To those of you who persist in your adamant belief that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and his teachings, (the Sunnah), and Islam promote violence, I’d like you to go back and read your own teachings (maybe you’ll learn a thing or two). The Prophet SAW taught ideas and concepts that were RADICAL during his time. He preached against female infanticide, and against raping/assaulting women. This was uncommon, to say the least. Women? Who cares about what they go through? <–Mentality that is widespread even now. Those of you contradicting this and claiming the opposite have probably been listening to propaganda against Islam and/or haven't done actual research and therefore won't change your beliefs (or even try to open your mind, for that matter). Not only did he do this, but he also campaigned for the good treatment of the poor, slaves, women, children, and for the freedom of all religions, the freedom to practice in whatever you chose to, etc. Women, until then, were never entitled to property (and they haven't been in the western world until recently, either). People who practiced other religions were either killed or expelled out of the land in other places during his time, and even way after his time (ahem, the expelling of Muslims from the Iberian peninsula, or, as you might call it, the "Crusades"). If you don't believe me, go google it. Go on, search it up. Just don't pick the ones that are biased off the bat (speaking for both sides here). Read and understand the research, not the bickering and bantering of the "informed", and THEN make an informed opinion. Until then, keep your mouths shut. It'll be much better for you, trust me.
Believe in whatever you want to believe, but please don't fall prey to the hateful messages people spew against Muslims on a daily basis. I'm just a person, and I'm sure that's how you'd like to be thought of as well; a human being.
Aishara • 3 years ago
*the expelling of Muslims AND Jews, I might add.
Let’s not forget the persecution of them, either.
To compare terrorists with the rest of the Muslim populations as having similar ideals and beliefs, is like comparing Hitler and his followers with the rest of the Christian population as having similar beliefs and ideals.
Just sayin.
Annette Brown • 3 years ago
Sadly, this isn’t about what any ‘original’ sector of belief may have had in the beginning. We are in the end times when men’s minds are blinded by the fear and hatred that Satan has set forth on this earth. Why is it always a questioning of who/what/why Jesus and not Satan who is the one causing the problems in men’s minds and actions? Jesus came here and it is “Christianity” because of Jesus CHRIST the precious son of God who came here in flesh to die a nasty horrible death for a bunch of unappreciative have to figure out every little thing in their own mind and own way and do it their way human beings like you and me! Yes he came from the blood line of David and King David will return to rule over Israel in the 1,000 year reign period… but please! It’s so close to the time of the trumpet to blow and the call ‘come up here’ so sound I wish folks would stop thinking the look up to the heavens. The Blood moons are about to appear as the sign in the heavens on dates that are specifically about Israel and the coming of the Son of Man
25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
biblegateway.com/passage/?search…
Check out the YouTube videos or get the book by John Hagee… it is that time
Afzal Hussain • 3 years ago
very happy to have your page to know the muslim nationals of the world . But I am sorry to draw your kind attention as a muslim citizen of Independent Bangladesh that I did not find the muslim peoples of my country in your list though total population of the country is 160 million and 90% of the population is from muslim community . Hope my country will be soon in your list . Thank you very much .
Saddy • 3 years ago
@alex what about the brzyantine empire and christianity,,,,,please eleaborate if possible…changes were made to the bible to suit that of the empire
Alex. • 3 years ago
A common misconception Saddy.
Thousands of early Christian writings and lexionaries (first and second century) cite verses from the New Testament. In fact, it is nearly possible to put together the entire New Testament just from early Christian writings. For example, the Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians (dated 95 A.D.) cites verses from the Gospels, Acts, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, Titus, Hebrews, and 1 Peter. The letters of Ignatius (dated 115 A.D.) were written to several churches in Asia Minor and cites verses from Matthew, John, Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus. These letters indicate that the entire New Testament was written in the first century A.D. In addition, there is internal evidence for a first century date for the writing of the New Testament. The book of Acts ends abruptly with Paul in prison, awaiting trial (Acts 28:30-31 (1)). It is likely that Luke wrote Acts during this time, before Paul finally appeared before Nero. This would be about 62-63 A.D., meaning that Acts and Luke were written within thirty years of ministry and death of Jesus. Another internal evidence is that there is no mention of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Although Matthew, Mark and Luke record Jesus’ prophecy that the temple and city would be destroyed within that generation (Matthew 24:1-2 (2),Mark 13:1-2 (3), Luke 21:5-9,20-24,32(4)), no New Testament book refers to this event as having happened. If they had been written after 70 A.D., it is likely that letters written after 70 A.D. would have mentioned the fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy.
With all of the massive manuscript evidence you would think there would be massive discrepancies – just the opposite is true. New Testament manuscripts agree in 99.5% of the text. Most of the discrepancies are in spelling and word order. There are two passages that are disputed but no discrepancy is of any doctrinal significance (i.e., NONE WOULD ALTER BASIC CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE).
Moreover most Bibles include the options as footnotes when there are discrepancies. How could there be such accuracy over a period of 1,400 years of copying? Two reasons: The scribes that did the copying had meticulous methods for checking their copies for errors. 2) The Holy Spirit made sure we would have an accurate copy of God’s word so we would not be deceived.
If you think you know better though Saddy feel free to reply back.
Perhaps I could ask you why prophet Mohammed broke so many of the ten commandments given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai (e.g thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet your neighbours goods, thou shalt not bear false witness, and thou shalt not covet your neighbours wife.
By breaking these he also broke the only commandment of jesus which was to love thy neighbour.
Why would someone who claims to be Gods last messenger break so many of the Lords commandments and commit so many sins? Regards.
Alex. • 3 years ago
So to prove to me that Islam is non violent you quote me verses from the old testament of the bible.:). Noone is disputing that the old testament is violent. If the bible had ended after the old testament then yes you could say Christianity is violent.
However there is a new testament of the bible. Something significant happened in the new testament of the bible Anon.
Christians believe that God sent his son Jesus to earth to demonstrate a better way than what had gone before.
Jesus taught us to keep the ten commandments but gave us an extra commandment which was to love thy neighbour. Jesus preached a message of peace, Christians believe that it is through following the teachings of Jesus that we get closer to God, not through following David etc. In Christianity Jesus is the moral and ethical example for humans to follow. Noone else.
THAT IS WHY CHRISTIANITY IS CALLED CHRISTIANITY NOT DAVIDIANITY. The clue is in the title.:0).
If you’d like to demonstrate where Jesus condoned violence or forced other people to believe in him. That would be more impressive than giving me some quotes from the old testament.:). I would conclude with saying if a message is worth hearing Anon you should not need violence to make people listen. Regards.
Alex. • 3 years ago
@Anon. No matter how hard you try you will find NOWHERE in the bible where Jesus forced other people to believe in him, even his own disciples. Jesus preached to keep the ten commandments God gave to Moses at Mount Sinai and taught to love thy neighbour but at no point did he preach or condone violence.
The DIFFERENCE is many of the tactics that Mohammed used to spread Islam are being used by the terrorists today and many clerics openly support them. Firstly terrorists often plant bombs to try and weaken or destroy the economies of countries. How is that different from Mohammed raiding caravans and laying siege to places to weaken them economically. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 425, Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428)
Secondly terrorists often kill people for leaving Islam or for doing things that they believe insult Islam. As I said previously lets look at what Mohammed’s approach was to people insulting or leaving Islam.
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mu’adh to sit down but Mu’adh said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
Examples of people killed for insulting Mohammed-
1) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995) explains how a woman was killed for insulting Mohammed by writing a poem.
2) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819) Abu Dawud 2678) explain how 2 slave girls were killed for insulting Mohammed by singing a song.
3) Abu Dawud 38:4348 explain how a blind man killed his wife after she insulted Mohammed. This was condoned by Mohammed.
Do you not think that this behaviour condones violence?
The quotations I have given are all from your own literature are they not? How can I be lying if I am quoting your own literature. I have given references in all my emails below.
Like I say if you do not accept any of the hadiths and feel they should not be followed then tell me which ones. However you can’t just say lies as I am giving you the references. Regards
Al deablo • 3 years ago
And of course your know is Christianity you Christians gave that name to your selves Jesus never named his people after himself. Jesus, Jesus Christ, Christianity, see the similarity. Will Muhammad, Muhammad ibn Abdallah, Islam see no similarity. Wow still at it and its been a week. Hi Alex nice to read from you again my good Friend. Unforchantly my studies has caught up with me so this is my last comment for now. Over the week I began to think if what i say doesn’t convince you if what Abdullah Abdurrahman says doesn’t convince you. if what all these people say doesn’t convince you then maybe their is no hope of convincing you. I mean Allah did say in our holy Quran that their are some people that we can show them a door to the heavens and they still won’t be conceived.
“And [even] if We opened to them a gate from the heaven and they continued therein to ascend,They would say, “Our eyes have only been dazzled. Rather, we are a people affected by magic.” Quran 15:14-15.
So believe what ever you want to believe i won’t stop you. I had fun debating with you my friend Alex. Bye-bye.
p.s: Please excuse all grammar and spelling mistakes.
Anon • 3 years ago
@Alex
I have not will never accept your false point about our beloved prophet condoning violence. And I will NEVER agree to all the lies you preach about Islam. Since there is no getting through to you, I shall show you how Christianity condoned violence. Much worse than Islam.
Honestly, Christianity condoned violence, murder, rape, and slavery.
BELOW ARE VERSES FROM THE BIBLE
anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12)
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
I won’t even get started with all the contradictions it makes in the book so I will leave it at that. You say our beloved prophet condoned violence, I say Christianity condoned much worse.
Josh • 3 years ago
hi Anon the im 13 yrs old but I have read the quran, bhavit gita , the Bible etc. but I felt love compaasion from the Bible only God established a new way of life in the new testament. Mohamed got his vision from Gabriel who is an angel in the bible a lot of info Quran from the torah book of the jews and from the bible
Nawaz • 3 years ago
is this the modified version of the 21st century, or the bible for star trek fans…whose words is this the Lords or some priests
Alex • 3 years ago
A common misconception Nawaz.
Thousands of early Christian writings and lexionaries (first and second century) cite verses from the New Testament. In fact, it is nearly possible to put together the entire New Testament just from early Christian writings. For example, the Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians (dated 95 A.D.) cites verses from the Gospels, Acts, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, Titus, Hebrews, and 1 Peter. The letters of Ignatius (dated 115 A.D.) were written to several churches in Asia Minor and cites verses from Matthew, John, Romans, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus. These letters indicate that the entire New Testament was written in the first century A.D. In addition, there is internal evidence for a first century date for the writing of the New Testament. The book of Acts ends abruptly with Paul in prison, awaiting trial (Acts 28:30-31 (1)). It is likely that Luke wrote Acts during this time, before Paul finally appeared before Nero. This would be about 62-63 A.D., meaning that Acts and Luke were written within thirty years of ministry and death of Jesus. Another internal evidence is that there is no mention of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Although Matthew, Mark and Luke record Jesus’ prophecy that the temple and city would be destroyed within that generation (Matthew 24:1-2 (2),Mark 13:1-2 (3), Luke 21:5-9,20-24,32(4)), no New Testament book refers to this event as having happened. If they had been written after 70 A.D., it is likely that letters written after 70 A.D. would have mentioned the fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy.
With all of the massive manuscript evidence you would think there would be massive discrepancies – just the opposite is true. New Testament manuscripts agree in 99.5% of the text. Most of the discrepancies are in spelling and word order. There are two passages that are disputed but no discrepancy is of any doctrinal significance (i.e., NONE WOULD ALTER BASIC CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE).
Moreover most Bibles include the options as footnotes when there are discrepancies. How could there be such accuracy over a period of 1,400 years of copying? Two reasons: The scribes that did the copying had meticulous methods for checking their copies for errors. 2) The Holy Spirit made sure we would have an accurate copy of God’s word so we would not be deceived.
If you think you know better though Nawaz feel free to reply back.
xyz • 3 years ago
aah
if muslims are terrorists then use your comon sense. They will kill other non muslims, but all murdered are muslims which means those are non muslims who kill them.
If you were a terrorist who would have u killed, your own people are against you??
Alex • 3 years ago
@anon. Doesn’t Sura ‘4:80 of the Quran clearly say: “Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah. If you reject all the hadiths like you seem to clearly be trying to do then where are we supposed to get our information from about Mohammed:).
After all Islam has offered no original moral value to world religion apart from this last prophet Mohammed so if we are not supposed to look at the life of Moahmmed, his life, his words and his actions. What was the point in sending him?
Im glad you have finally accepted my point about Mohammed being violent and condoning violence against people who insult him and leave Islam. I’m glad you also seem to accept the koran justifies violence against non believers.
THE BELOW VERSES ARE FROM THE QURAN.
Sura 4;89- They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.
Sura 9-11-12″But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.”
Sura 9-29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
You claim that there is no evidence in the Quran that rape is permissable. What about this quote in the Quran?
THIS IS FROM THE QURAN(Sura 4:24) “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.”
If this is not an endorsement of rape I do not know what is. Do you really believe that a woman whose husband and relatives had just been killed by a group of men would then enter sex willingly with the same men who had just killed their family members. Therefore if they had sex with these women against their will it is rape. Unless you know of another definition. (not to mention adultery).
You say that we can not judge someone from the 7th century based on modern day standards. Anon this is supposed to be Gods last messenger. He is supposed to be giving us universal truths. If he was receiving revelations from God. His teachings would be as relevant today as they were then.
Ps perhaps you could elaborate and tell me which of the hadiths you think are not reliable and therefore not to be followed or included in any debate as you seem at the moment to be denying them all which I am very surprised at. Regards.
adm • 3 years ago
Luke 19:27
Anon • 3 years ago
@Alex
You are very considerate to offer another topic but I’d rather not. Please tell me where did you get the information of our beloved prophet raping because i can tell you your sources are wrong. And to say prophet Mohammed stole is also another lie. You keep giving me the same quotes over and over again and those only depict violence which is only ONE of your claims. All you have given me are quotes from hadiths for all we know could be reworded by someone who is against Islam to make it look bad. And you have not once given me a quote from the holy Quran and until you do, this argument is pointless. The Quran is the only religious book that has never been altered, so take evidence from there, tell me your claim and then and only then can you rightfully judge Prophet Muhammed. Judging someone from the 7th century based on modern day ideas is no where near right. I admire your forwardness and you should join debate.
Alex • 3 years ago
@Anon. I don’t know if you are aware of it but you are massively contradicting yourself from one message to the next. One minute you are saying that Mohammed is the most peaceful man that ever lived then when I give you references for when he killed people for leaving Islam/insulting Islam, (things that are clearly documented in your own literature) then you change your mind and decide that these were for the greater good. Do you get a different meaning from it everytime you read it? 🙂
When you say that the violent actions Mohammed did (Killing, raping, stealing) were for the greater good. Isn’t this what the terrorists claim when they plant bombs, murder people. What is the difference? I am giving you these quotes and examples from your own literature. Could you explain exactly how these are for the greater good?
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mu’adh to sit down but Mu’adh said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
Examples of people killed for insulting Mohammed-
1) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995) explains how a woman was killed for insulting Mohammed by writing a poem.
2) (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819) Abu Dawud 2678) explain how 2 slave girls were killed for insulting Mohammed by singing a song.
3) Abu Dawud 38:4348 explain how a blind man killed his wife after she insulted Mohammed. This was condoned by Mohammed.
Could you again explain how these are for the greater good? Is this to maintain your stability? Or this is this to bring non muslims to a state of humiliation (Sura 9-29).
This brings me onto my next point about Western media. I have given you references from the koran and hadiths, not the BBC OR CNN so unless you want to deny any of the references from your own literature that I have given then you don’t really have a point there either.
Secondly in one email you claim Mohammed doesn’t follow the teachings of Jesus (correct), then you bizarrely say that the message of Jesus was Islam. Are you serious?lol
I must have missed the part of the bible where Jesus goes round raping, stealing and killing people for the spread of his religion or the greater good as you like to call it.
If you have any evidence of Jesus displaying this kind of behaviour then feel free to share it.
Finally I asked why you why you feel religious freedom would undermine the stability of Muslim countries and restrict the freedom of other muslims to practice their religions? You said. 1) People would leave Islam.
2) Nothing.
3) People would leave Christianity.
How exactly would any of these outcomes undermine the stability of the community and restrict the freedom of religion of muslims? Regards.
Ps I do not hate anyone Anon. If I was to meet you I would shake your hand. It is nothing personal. Ultimately we are both humans and we have to agree to disagree. I believe in religious freedom. If someone was discriminating against your religion and denying you the right to live true to your heart then I would be the first to challenge them about it. I would not wish any person harm in any way shape or form. But if you say something I disagree with I will tell you.:) If you want to find a new subject to discuss then maybe we can argue about that instead. You a football fan, maybe we can argue about football instead?:). Regards.
M.M.A. • 3 years ago
If someone will say ISLAM is a religion of terror who is he that gives them deadly weapons to make terror and encourage them.
Who had INVADED countries and SUBJUGATED their members with IRON HANDS,occupy their properties.
Who killed maximum number of HUMANS? The numbers of WARS in ISLAM are less than in the bible.
MUHAMMAD S.A.W. never attacked any people unless they attacked Him.
Your ears and heart are sealed so you will never undaestand the truth.
Anon • 3 years ago
@Alex
I don’t know what came to make you dislike Islam so much. And i dont want you to think that im fighting you but Jesus was a messenger of God and tried his best to preach Islam as well. It is called Christianity because the people of Jesus’s time did’n’t listen to him carefully,
Anon • 3 years ago
@alex
Well I am sorry to say but you are very wrong my friend. If I was insecure about my religion or had any doubt about it i would’ve left a long time ago. You my friend have been brainwashed by society and using terrorists to represent a whole nation. I will tell you this again, there will always be people who will never understand and I am trying to help you to understand. The extremists in Islam do not follow our beloved prophet’s peaceful ways, and if our prophet was ever violent it was always for the greater good. And i never said anything about not letting Christians practice their religions in muslim countries. When prophet Muhammed converted Saudi Arabia into a muslim nation he allowed the former Jews and Christians to live there in peace when they repeatedly tried to kill him. He forgave them over and over again. your question, Why would people spreading Christianity affect the stability of a Muslim society? They shouldn’t and why should they. Practice your religion side by side in peace. The thing is Christians think that their above all religions because they have the greater population and have think that they will all go to heaven. Your second question, how would it affect the religious freedom of other muslims? There are 3 reactions. 1. No affect at all but encourage them to love Islam more. 2. Some might question the religion and even convert. And 3. Some Christians might question their religion and convert.
I’m not saying that Muhammed (PBUH) condoned violence but rather used it to protect his religion, which brings me back to jihad. When his religion was threatened by others that was the only way to stop them after the peaceful ways had not worked.
And you seem to be missing a big point because you cannot judge our prophet the teachings of jesus which he never followed in the first place.
You keep on focusing on the bad of Islam when you need to learn that its better to look at the positive things that he has done for the world.
Alex • 3 years ago
Just a correction to my last post. The first paragraph was supposed to say there is no justification in the teachings of Jesus for what Hitler did.Regards.
Alex. • 3 years ago
@Anon. You seem to be missing the point in quite a big way. There is no justification in the teachings of Jesus for what Mohammed did. If you can find some perhaps you would like to share it?
The DIFFERENCE is many of the tactics that Mohammed used to spread Islam are being used by the terrorists today and many clerics openly support them. Firstly terrorists often plant bombs to try and weaken or destroy the economies of countries. How is that different from Mohammed raiding caravans and laying siege to places to weaken them economically. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 425, Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428)
Secondly terrorists often kill people for leaving Islam or for doing things that they believe insult Islam. Lets look at what Mohammed’s approach was to people insulting or leaving Islam.
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ” Note that there is no distinction as to how that Muslim came to be a Muslim.
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mu’adh to sit down but Mu’adh said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
People killed for insulting Mohammed-
Asma Bint Marwan (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995) explains how a woman was killed for insulting Mohammed by wiritng a poem.
(Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819) Abu Dawud 2678) explain how 2 slave girls were killed for insulting Mohammed by singing a song.
Abu Dawud 38:4348 explain how a blind man killed his wife after she insulted Mohammed. This was condoned by Mohammed.
Perhaps you could explain how these do not justify violence and make Mohammed the most peaceful man that ever lived?
Could you also explain which of the references I have given are lies?
Secondly your answer was very vague but I take it you are basically saying that you will not allow Christians or other faiths to freely practice Christianity and spread the Christian gospel in muslim countries as this would undermine stability. Why are you so insecure about your religion?
1) Why would people spreading Christianity affect the stability of a Muslim society?
2) How would it affect the religious freedom of other muslims?
Perhaps you could answer these questions as well as telling me which of the references I have given you of Mohammed condoning violence against people who leave Islam and criticise Islam you do not accept. Regards.
Anon • 3 years ago
@Alex,
I’m sorry Alex but issue with Islam is nothing. “Islam’s recognition of freedom does not imply that it leaves the individual free of all restrictions and guidelines, because that kind of “freedom” is mere anarchy that gives free reign to lusts and evil desires. It is well known that these vain desires bring more harm to the human being than they do good.
For this reason, Islam forbids a person to force someone to follow them because no one’s freedom is granted at the expense of another’s. Everyone must be given freedom on both the individual and societal levels. For this reason, Islam sets down certain rules and guidelines that guarantee the freedom of all. These guidelines can be outlined in the following manner:
A. The freedom of individuals and communities should never jeopardize the general order of society or destroy its foundations.
B. The freedom of individuals or communities should never cause the loss of more general rights. This is in consideration of their intrinsic values.
C. No one’s freedom should violate the freedom of others.
These regulations and guidelines show that Islam does not recognize individual freedom at the expense of the community, nor does it establish freedoms for communities at the expense of individuals. Instead, it strikes a balance between the two, giving everyone their just due.
Types of freedom:
• Individual freedom with reference to material concerns.
• Individual freedom with reference to more abstract matters.”
And whatever you have found about our beloved prophet is a down right lie. He was the most peaceful man that ever lived.
Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, claimed every person who is born is born in a state of ISLAM (submission to God on His Terms in Peace), as a Muslim (MU-Islam means; “one who does ISLAM” i.e.; submits to God’s Will and obeys His Commandments). He further stated, God has created each person in the image that is His according to His plan, and their spirit is His. Then as they grow older they begin to distort their faith according to the influence of the prevailing society and their own prejudices.
And Hitler was Christian, just a very bad one. You cannot tell someone that they do not follow a religion if they claim so, even if they don’t follow all the rules.
Adeel Ahmad • 3 years ago
Islam is a peaceful & perfect religion, therefore every other terrorist-religions disliked Islam
nate • 3 years ago
but how many
Alex • 3 years ago
@Anon. I do not hate anyone. I believe in full religious freedom. If people wish to follow a religion then they should have full freedom to do that. My issue with Islam (not muslims) is that it does not allow for full freedom of religion. My initial post on here was if muslims are so confident of their religion why are they afraid to let christians build churches and preach christianity openly in muslim countries. Why are the activities of the Christians restricted.
The discussion developed and I illustrated how Mohammed broke many of the ten commandments given by Moses to God at Mount Sinai and broke the commandment of Jesus which was to love thy neighbour. I was asked for references so I provided references.
There are many examples of where Mohammed condoned the killing of people who he believed insulted him. I have provided numerous references. Mohammed condoned the rape of captive women. He condoned the stealing and raiding of caravans by his followers and allowed them to steal in the name of religion.
He justified lying in certain circumstances and I believe demonstrated poor ethics by marrying both a 6 year old and marrying the wife of his adopted son. These break Gods Commandments (Moses and Jesus’s) and if you read further down to some of my earlier posts you will see where I have got my references from.
Anon, Hitler a Christian.lol I think you would struggle to find examples of Hitlers behaviour anywhere in the teachings of Jesus.
Muslims believe that Mohammed is the perfect example to follow so his behaviour and moral teachings are important and do require scrutiny. A topic such as this for discussion should not be off limits. ps I do not mind Abdullah criticising Christianity or any other religion if he wishes. I am all for open debate. It is not personal but these things should be discussed. You say Islam is a spiritual struggle, how so? Christianity is a spiritual struggle as it doesn’t condone violence in Gods name. Christians can be violent but they can’t do in Gods name.
Islam, a spiritual struggle? Not while they think it is ok to kill peoples in Gods name no and restrict the religious freedom of others in their own country. It is not acceptable and I am pointing that out. Regards.
lynnknowz • 3 years ago
Alex, I get your point. BUT again that is a Muslims Issue NOT an Islam one. There is NOTHING in ISlam that says there can be no other religious communities in/on Muslims land /countries. In -Fact it is the opposite.
When Islam began to spread Muslims used to allow other religions to build churches etc. The proof of this are the many buildings that are still around today in Spain and other places the Ottoman Empire ruled. Fact is Islam allows choices and in the Quran it clearly says there is no compulsion in ISlam. Meaning no one can make a person do anything. We all have the choice to be what we want.
The problem IS with the Muslims. I am Muslims and I can tell you from my 46 years on this earth I have had more issues with Muslims than any other group. If it was up to the actions of Muslims I would not be a Muslims. It is Islam and the beauty of Islam that keeps me Muslim.
Some Muslims have messed up this faith. They have twisted word and distorted things to make things crazy. They have turned Islam into Hislam.
Dont get me wrong. I am not saying ALL Muslims are bad but the fact is its nto Christians that are doing these thing. Its Muslims.
There are Many good kind loving peaceful Muslims but these Nuts are messing it up for the rest of us.
I am not sure where you got much of your information about Muhammad condoning killing people for insulting him, marrying a 6 year old, or rape but this is not true. Also, ISlam is very clear on lying, stealing, treating people badly. All of this is NOT allowed. There are SO many Ayats in the Quran and hadiths that speak against these things.
Its up to the people to take this information and take it to heart. Its just like Christian groups that believe
First Rape is not allowed in ISlam. However you are talking about war and back in those days how people treated others was horrible in ALL countries and faiths. IF a person won a war the losers belonged to the winner. Be it in land, goods, property, or people. That is just how it was. The women were not raped but captured and became concubines. This is something that happened in the US not long ago so I can image it was much worse 1400 years ago.
As far as his marriage to Aiesha, in ISlam the marriage is a contract just liek in the Jewish tradition. He had a contract, however, he did not sleep with her or live with her until she was much older. This is a cultural thing. We can not compare what we know as normal and think we have to impose our thoughts on others. Islam forbids marriage to ANY girl that has not reached puberty. It also forbids marriages to women/girls that do not want it. Yes, people break this rule but again this is not Islam, it is Muslims that do this.
One last thing, you said “Christianity is a spiritual struggle as it doesn’t condone violence in Gods name. Christians can be violent but they can’t do in Gods name.” You are right but people do it anyway. There are MANY historical events that happened where Christians did horrible things in the name of God. ISlam is the same way. Islam does not promote or encourage violence but many Muslims do.
What I am saying is we have to put blame of the right thing. Islam is not the problem. It is the people. Its the leaders of some countries, Islamic leaders and teachers that teach violence for their own purposes. These people took a beautiful religion and high jacked it
Im sure if you took the time to really read some valid information you would see this. I wish you well in all you do. Alex, we have to share this world together. Why not work together to make it a better place. Lets not tear each other apart.
I leave you in peace
As Salaamu Alakyum
Alex • 3 years ago
@Lyn. I will try to be polite to you Lyn as you have been polite in your response to me. I think you are a little bit in denial about what is actually written in the Koran and the hadiths.
Firstly to explain. As far as Jews and Christians are concerned Islam has not offered any single original moral value to World Religion. The only contribution Islam has made to world religion is the prophet Mohammed who you believe is Gods last messenger. You seem to have very low standards for him considering he is the moral and ethical example for muslims to follow.
According to verse 4:80 of the Quran: “Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah.
You mention context. Lynn this is supposed to be Gods last messenger. His message therefore is supposed to be a universal truth, as relevant today as it was 1400 years ago. (If he was not going to set a good example what was the point in sending him?).
You say that Mohammed killed, stole and took slaves because that is what people did then? So if Mohammed was Gods last messenger can we conclude that God wanted us to carry on doing that til the end of time?
I’m surprised you say he didn’t rape women Lyn, Do you really believe that a woman whose husband and relatives had just been killed by a group of men would then enter sex willingly with the same men who had just killed their family members. Therefore if they had sex with these women against their will it is rape. Unless you know of another definition. (not to mention adultery).
These are a few of the references you were asking for
1) Examples of people killed for insulting Mohammed-
(Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995) explains how a woman was killed for insulting Mohammed by writing a poem.
(Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819) Abu Dawud 2678) explain how 2 slave girls were killed for insulting Mohammed by singing a song.
Abu Dawud 38:4348 explain how a blind man killed his wife after she insulted Mohammed. This was condoned by Mohammed.
Perhaps you could explain how these do not justify violence.
3) Examples of where lying is condoned- Bukhari 52:269, Bukhari 59:369, Bukhari 49:857
You say that the koran says that there should be no compulsion in religion. Yes you are right it it does say that Lyn.
However the koran also says
Sura 4;89- They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.
Sura 9-11-12″But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.”
Sura 9-29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
Simlilarly Mohammed says.
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mu’adh to sit down but Mu’adh said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
These are quotes from your own literature Lyn. I think there is plenty of evidence there to justify violence in Gods name. Feel free to dispute the references though if you do not accept any of them.
In conclusion you seem to be a nice woman Lyn and I wish you well too, however can you really claim that there is no justification for killing in Islam? To keep saying Islam is perfect but muslims are not is sounding a bit hollow now.
There is a lot of evidence to the contrary.
To finish though I must stress I believe in religious freedom and respect everyones right to practice their own religion in peace and security. I hope this email finds you in good health Lyn. Regards.
Anon • 3 years ago
@Alex
One question Alex,
If your dislike for muslims is so blatant, why did you search this website up?
Just curious.
Anon • 3 years ago
You my sorry friend are blind to the point were your words don’t make any sense and i’m very sorry for you. what you write about Islam is nothing more than your opinion so I won’t even bother reading the rest of your post. Get a book, or better yet ask an UNBIASED person so that they can cleanse your mind and soul of ignorance. Please and Thank you
Anon • 3 years ago
@Abdullah @Alex
You both are trying to preach that your religion is great, but you do that by insult each others personal belief?
Islam is perfect, muslims are not so please do not get it confused.
Just because a few radical muslims cause trouble does not give anyone the right to blame a whole nation for a fews doing. Hitler was Christians and he killed 3.5 million Jews, and he killed many others as well.
Islam is not about we are better than you, it is let me show you somthing that is better for you.
Prophet Muhammed (May peace and blessing be upon him) didn;t condone violence what so ever.
Jihad, not the meaning that everyone thinks. It really means spiritual struggle.
Please do not let your biased opinions and the lies you have heard from the media determine your feeling about muslims.
There will always be people in this world who won’t understand and i pray that God help them find the right path.
@Alex you chose Christianity because you believe it is the right thing. @Abdullah same with you and Islam. In both those religions it is taught not to criticize others beliefs so please stop being hypocrites and get along.
Alex • 3 years ago
@Abdullah. We will have to agree to disagree. You have made your points I have made mine. Other people should do their reading and come to their own conclusions. My original point of posting on here was simply to say if Muslims are so sure about their religion why are they not willing to allow Christians or other faiths for that matter to build churches/temples etc freely in most of their countries? I know there are some existing churches in some muslim countries and they are tolerated. However I think we would both agree that they are tolerated as long as they keep a low profile and do not attempt to convert the local muslims.
Do you not think that it is time for Islamic countries to allow freedom of religion and be more tolerant of other faiths? Do you believe if someone chooses to leave Islam they should be punished for this? How do you interpret apostasy and how do you think it should be applied today? I am trying to move this discussion beyond a simple slanging match and move it forward. Regards.
Maths Teacher • 3 years ago
Why do christians believe 1+1+1=1?
mujaffar • 3 years ago
god has created even animals like cow goat pig etc so u think u must pray pig even if its so plZ its Mubarak for u only.
Alex. • 3 years ago
@Abdullah. So you are basically saying that because Mohammed didn’t kill that particular lady it is therefore ok that he killed lots of other people.:). So he didn’t kill that particular lady but on other occasions
Mohammed condoned the killing of people simply for insulting him or for leaving Islam?. Mohammed condoned the killing of 2 slave girls for writing a song about him
Mohammed condoned the killing of asma bint marwan for writing a poem about him?
Mohammed condoned the killing of a woman by her blind husband just because she had insulted mohammed.)
Would you not say these people killed were innocent people Abdullah? Do you think that a suitable punishment for them was DEATH? Did Mohammed show a nice forgiving nature on these occasions?
Your argument is basically that these and all the other murders he committed are all ok because sometimes he didn’t kill people. What very low standards you have for someone who is supposed to be your last messenger? Someone who is supposed to be the moral and ethical example for muslims to follow.
So what lessons can we learn from looking at the life of God’s apostle Mohammed?
We can learn that it is ok to kill people for insulting you or for leaving Islam, we can learn it is ok to rape women as long as they are the enemy, it is ok to steal from people and take their belongings, it is ok to lie, marry children etc. All these things are ok according to the example Mohammed set in his life?
How is this good moral behaviour in any context or period of time. The way he behaves is an absolute disgrace.
Again what is your justification for all this Abdullah? People were against Islam and it was in gods name so it is ok to kill,rape and steal from other people. He didn’t kill a Jewish woman who cooked a poisoned sheep for him? That proves what exactly? Hardly matters really does it when he has killed so many other people. Oh and he paid for a sheep when he could have stolen it? Something most people would do everyday without even thinking about it.:) That doesn’t really compensate much for all the killing, raping and stealing he did in other circumstances does it?
Abdullah Abdurrahman • 3 years ago
@Alex : In your bind hatred, you fail to see the point – the scenario is not what you portray, that Muhammad chose to kill or forgive randomly. If you have looked at my post with a cool and unbiased mind, you would have seen – Muhammad always made a distinction between himself and other innocents. If a crime was committed against his person, he was always forgiving and compassionate. But if any crime was committed against the community of believers, he was swift in delivering justice.
Take an example –
Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewish woman brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, “Shall we kill her?” He said, “No.” I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of God’s Apostle.(Saheeh Bukhari 3.786)
This incident itself is enough to prove the magnanimity of the Blessed Muhammad. The next narration is enough to further my point – no peaceful non-Muslims were ever harassed or things taken from them by force.
Narrated `Abdur−Rahman bin Abu Bakr: We were one−hundred and thirty persons accompanying the Prophet who asked us whether anyone of us had food. There was a man who had about a Sa (approx. two and half kilo) of wheat which was mixed with water then. A very tall pagan came driving sheep. The Prophet asked him, “Will you sell us a sheep or give it as a present?” He said, “I will sell you (a sheep).” The Prophet bought a sheep and it was slaughtered. The Prophet ordered that its liver and other abdominal organs be roasted. By Allah, the Prophet gave every person of the one−hundred−and−thirty a piece of that; he gave all those of them who were present; and kept the shares of those who were absent. The Prophet then put its meat in two huge basins and all of them ate to their fill, and even then more food was left in the two basins which were carried on a camel .(Saheeh Bukhari 3.787)
Here we have the honest Muhammad, who although in power, paid the pagan Bedouin the price and God put the blessing in the food so much so that it did not decrease in quantity after all of them ate to their fill.
Sine you have opened up a Pandora’s Box of lies and deceptions, we have to deal with each issue separately. Every issue that Satan has put in your mind and that of your ilk has been refuted by scholars. In Time Magazine (April 16, 1979 issue), Edward Said reported that “over 60,000 (sixty thousand) books have been written against Islam by the Christian West” and Muslims have always dealt with them – these lies are nothing new.
Al deablo • 3 years ago
Yusuf Estas Man that was Christian and became Muslim also knows about the bible and the Quran.
Alex • 3 years ago
So now you have given up trying to deny the horrendous things Mohammed did you now try and make excuses for why he did them.
You claim he was a peaceful forgiving man. Then why did he kill thousands of people by beheading then? You mention Banu Qurayza. I know the story. However Mohammed was the moral authority he could have saved those peoples lives and demonstrated to them a better way instead he was directly involved in their beheading as you well know. So to say it wasn’t ultimately his decision was false.
Moreover why did he condone the killing of people simply for insulting him or for leaving Islam?(Mohammed condoned the killing of 2 slave girls for writing a song about him, he condoned the killing of asma bint marwan for writing a poem about him, he condoned the killing of a woman be her blind husband just because she had insulted mohammed.) What is peaceful and forgiving about these actions?
Mohammed condoned the rape of female captives, he took slaves who he had sex with or sold for ransom. How is this good moral behaviour in any context or period of time. It is an absolute disgrace.
He allowed his followers to steal in the name of their religion and take war booty. He encouraged his followers to lie if necessary. He became attracted to his adopted sons wife and later married her. Not to mention marrying a 6 year old child and having sex with her when she was 9. Morally it seems that nothing is wrong as long as it is in Gods name and advances the cause of Islam.
Your justification for all this Abdullah is what? People were against Islam and it was in gods name so it is ok to kill,rape and steal from other people. This displays a very low level of morality and an outstanding lack of compassion.
Your other angle of moral reasoning is to say that because on some occasions he didn’t kill people then the times that he did kill people don’t matter. Ok so if someone kills a person on one occasion, then doesn’t kill them the next time then kills them the time after that, Is that any better than killing them all the time? You’ve got pretty low standards for him considering he is supposed to be your last messenger. What kind of lasting message does this send out to people as he is supposed to the example for muslims to follow isn’t he?
In conclusion you try and link Mohammed to Moses and Jesus. Mohammed broke most of the 10 commandments given to moses by God at mount sinai. He also broke the commandment of jesus to love thy neighbour. If you think Mohammed set a good example for others to follow then that is up to you. I think he set a terrible example. People reading this will have to make their own decisions won’t they. We will have to agree to disagree Abdullah my friend.
Al deablo • 3 years ago
In your bible they blame Eve for being being on earth, the bible blames women for Adam’s sin doesn’t it. Also you still haven’t told me your sources, sorry Alex but by not showing me your sources you are basically telling me you have no confidence your information. Also During the time of the Roman Empire it was common to marry young and take booty of war, that was also aloud in World war 1 and 2. And if you think that every change ever made in the bible was for translation mistakes then why are there some times major changes from that weren’t in the bible before. Also did you know Muhammad is in your bible here is the link if you want my source: islamicity.com/mosque/muhammad_b…
Also I do believe in Religious freedom in case of any confusion I do believe that Jeus is a messenger of God my friend Alex.
Alex • 3 years ago
No Al Deablo the bible doesn’t blame Eve for Adams sin. Lol. Both Adam and Eve get punished by God. The bible says Eve was deceived, Adam wasn’t. So in some senses Adam’s sin was worse than Eve wasn’t it? Again no Mohammed isn’t in the bible unless you believe he is the false prophet.
Heres your references again. I could have included many more.
1) THOU SHALL NOT KILL-Asma Bint Marwan (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995)
2 slave girls who mocked Mohammed (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819)
(Abu Dawud 2678)
800 Jews beheaded at Banu Qurayza- (Bukhari58:148)
Quran verse 33-26
Condoned the killing of a woman Abu Dawud 38:4348
by her blind husband
2) Thou shall not commit adultery- Sura 4-24, Abu Dawud 2150, Sahih Muslim 3433
3) Thou shall not bear false witness- Bukhari 52:269, Bukhari 59:369, Bukhari 49:857
4/5) Thou shall not steal/covet neighbours goods-Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 425
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428
6) Thou shall not covet his neighbours wife. Sura 33-37
Even worse It seems that some of the koran was revealed to Mohammed when he was in bed with this little girl. Bukhari 47:755 (Mohammed said) Divine inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha.
Violence in Islam being acceptable-Quran 4;89- They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.
Sura 9-11-12″But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.”
Sura 9-29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
According to verse 4:80 of the Quran: “Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah.”
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ” Note that there is no distinction as to how that Muslim came to be a Muslim.
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mu’adh to sit down but Mu’adh said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
Ps Rawad tried giving me the earlier quote Sura 2:256, Let there be no compulsion in religion for truth stands out from error. I looked into that.
However didn’t Mohammed later instruct in Quran verse 9:29 that Muslims should fight unbelievers until they relent and accept Islam or a state of humiliation under Islamic rule.
Again I will look forward to your denials and your talk of context:) but at least you will not say I am not sourcing my writings.
Al deablo • 3 years ago
You do know that Bukhari is the 2nd chapter in the Quran right?
Sulaiman • 3 years ago
I hereby declare that that statement is false. I am muslim and the second chapter of the Quran is al Baqarah [the cow] (or if people refer to jazaa as chapters – it’s sayaqool) (or if you meant by time of revelation – it’s al qalam(the pen)
This comment is merely to rectify the previous post.
Alex • 3 years ago
The above are examples of where Mohammed broke the ten commnadments given to God at Mont Sinai and thus breaking the commandment of Jesus.
The second set of quotes demonstrate the viloence of Islam towards other faiths and how Mohammed believed it was acceptable to kill people of other faiths and those who left Islam.
Shafi • 3 years ago
Hi Alex,
See let me tell you one thing what ever Mohammed (s.a.w.) did everything is good for humanity, he came to this world for whole humanity not only just for followers, n followers of Jesus will also going to follow the Islam when he come back to this world again, and Jesus will teach what Islam teaches us, then the people will come to know what is Islam and why we are living in this world.
Alex • 3 years ago
No sorry Shafi we wouldn’t follow the teachings of Islam. The teachings of Jesus are the complete opposite of Islam in so many different ways. How Jesus taught us to treat other people, the things he felt were important, the way he felt the faith should be spread. They are all very different to the example Mohammed gave. Read the bible see for yourself. Regards.
shabaan • 3 years ago
swadakta ya Shafi , our beloved prophet never being selfish, Alex and all other christian around the world because they are on opposite side of islam, they won’t understand !
Anon • 3 years ago
Mohammed (PBUH) could never break the 10 commandments if he was never following them. In the bible itself, it foreshadows the arrival of prophet Muhammed (SAW).
answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/mu…
Paul Jaramillo • 3 years ago
Jesus is the son of God, not a Prophet. You have no right to dictate the place where Jesus stands in the affairs of humanity. The Muslims killed the Jew of Arabia because they refused to accept the authority of Mohamed as prophet. At one point European Christianity was in danger of being wiped out by Islamic militancy at the Gates of Vienna and the battle of Tours. Islam is usurpation of Judaism and Christianity and wants to replaced them both. Islam is supposed to be the perfect worship of God and Christianity and Judaism, have fallen into apostasy, that defines Islam. The bible does not mention Mohamed, it mentions the coming of the Holy Spirit, not another prophet that differs from the Torah or the bible in general.
It is blasphemy to say that the Angel Gabriel gave the Quran since it rejects the writings of the Torah. The same angel that told Mary of the birth of Jesus.
I refuse to accept the idea that Mohamed is a prophet of God, and so does the Christian world as a whole. Islam has no place in the Judeo-Christian world, they are at war with them.
Alex • 3 years ago
Ok so now you have stopped trying to deny the horrendous things that mohammed did you are instead trying to say it was the context and times he lived in. Sorry this is no excuse.
In Islam this man was supposed to be gods last messenger, the perfect example of moral and ethical behaviour, the example to follow. Therefore the actions he performed and the message should be as relevant today as it was then. You cant use the context as an excuse. You cant say all the horrendous things he did were ok because people were against him and he was just trying to do gods work. This is like saying we can kill as many people as we like we can enslave others, bring them to a state of humiliation. This is ok because it is in gods name. It demonstrates a very low level of morality and an outstanding lack of compassion.
Mohammed killed thousands of people and condoned the killing of others simply for criticising or mocking him. Like where the 2 servant girls were killed for insulting Mohammed or where asma bint marwan was killed for writing a poem about him or where the killing of a woman by her blind husband was condoned simply because she criticised mohammed.
How is this an example of a fair and reasonable man? This is despicable behaviour in any context.
Mohammed stole from other tribes by raiding caravans and allowed his men to take war booty. Mohammed condoned the rape of captive women and he saw nothing wrong in taking slaves captured in battle as sex slaves or something to trade as a commodity. Where was his compassion towards these women. To you they are non muslims. Abdullah my friend they were human beings!!
His general lack of morality and ethics was also extremely noticeable. Mohammed condoned lying and thought nothing wrong coveting his adopted sons wife and then later marrying her. He married a 6 year old child and had sex with her when she was 9. In fact as i quoted. Even worse it seems that some of the koran was revealed to mohammed while he was in bed with this little girl. Didn’t Mohammed say ‘Divine inspirations don’t come to me on any of the beds except that of aisha’. What is this supposed to mean?
By killing people who insult him, by raping, by looting, by condoning lying, by coveting his adopted sons wife, by forcing his religion on people or punishing those who choose not to follow him, by enslaving people in order to bring them to a state of humiliation. Mohammed breaks most of the 10 commandments given to moses by god at mount sinai. He also completely breaks the commandment of jesus which is to love thy neighbour.
Just because on occasion he didn’t behave like a complete psychopath doesn’t make him a good man let alone Gods messenger. Regards.
You try and
Abdullah Abdurrahman • 3 years ago
@Alex – Muhammad was not supposed to be another martyr who dies raising an unsuccessful cause. His message was to change the lives of millions and millions of mankind, who would follow him. To make the point clear, you must always bear in mind that this Prophet was to the one who was to be like unto Moses, as the Book of Deuteronomy so explicitly states. When a section of the Israelites took to the worship of the Golden Calf, Moses ordered the sons of Levi to punish them and three thousand of those scoundrels lost their lives. From a humanist perspective, this remains a moral issue – why did not Moses allow for freedom of worship? The masses should have been left to worship whatever they want – a golden calf, any image or even Satan. But for a person who believes in God and Divine Revelation, this issue is crystal clear. The source of all morality is God and human nature confirming to it. Here what Moses did was the apt moral thing to do.
In Muhammad, you will find shades of all the Prophets preceding him. Like Abraham, he was the caller to pure Oneness of God, to His Absolute Uniqueness without similitude. Like Jesus, he taught love of God, hope in Him, compassion and mercy. For thirteen long years, he suffered in Mecca what Jesus did not in his mission of three years. And like Moses, he was a law-giver, a judge, a statesman, a leader, a revolutionary and an iconoclast. He was the one guiding the destinies of his people.
Keep this context in mind and see. When anyone offended or hurt him personally, Muhammad always showed great mercy and compassion. He never held any personal grudges. He even forgave those who hurt his family. Wahshi the Ethiopian, who had killed his beloved uncle Hamzah by way of deceit, and dismembered his body, came to him and sought his forgiveness. Muhammad pardoned him and just said “Is it possible for you to hide your face from me as it will remind me of my uncle”. He forgave the entire town of Mecca when this had been the people who were constantly opposing him for almost 20 years of his call. No action was taken against the Jews of Khaibar when they served him poisoned food after a treaty was concluded. The people of Taif who had chased him out pelting with stones, were all pardoned. The incident of Ghaurath Ibn Harith is a striking example to this. At a time when Muhammad was sleeping, Ghaurath – a pagan Bedouin placed the sword on Muhammad’s neck and asked him disparagingly – Who will save you from me?” Muhammad boldly replied “Allah” and the sword fell down from his hand. Muhammad magnanimously forgave him and let him go and when Ghaurath returned to his tribe, he proclaimed that he had returned from the best of all men.
In contrast to this behavior, when any law of God was trespassed or a crime was done against the innocent people, Muhammad was swift in delivering justice. He always stood for the weak and the oppressed. He had to fight with groups of vested interests who were more interested in money-minting fanning wars.
Regarding the Jews of Banu Qurayzah, who were executed, it must be known that the rights of the tribes Aws and Khazraj were trampled. These two tribes were the only ones who were supporting Muhammad at a time when the entire Arabia was set on killing him and annihilating his message. Ironically, one of these tribes, the Banu Aws was a big time ally of the Jews. With their treason, they had committed a war crime not just against Muhammad but the entire tribes of both Aws and Khazraj. When Muhammad was wronged, he was always full of compassion and mercy but when the Medinan tribes who had sacrificed so much for his Message were faced with extinction, Muhammad had to implement the Law. On closer analysis, we see that this decision was not even made by Muhammad but by an arbitrator who was unanimously selected by the Banu Qurayzah themselves. This arbitrator in accordance with the Hebrew law gave the decision of execution and it was honored. The people who were wronged sought justice and it was delivered. Before in the case of Banu Qaynuqa and Banu Nadir, a Muslim woman was molested and in retaliation, a Muslim killed the perpetrator and the Muslim was himself killed in retaliation. To stop the cycle of killings, Muhammad went to the dwellings of Banu Nadir and while the negotiations were going on, a heavy stone was dropped on Muhammad and Muhammad narrowly escaped death by divine grace alone. The Constitution of Medina was openly breached and the treaty of mutual cooperation and non-aggression on each other was shattered to pieces by the Jews of Nadir. Muhammad just banished this tribe from Medina.
In individual behavior, we have the case of Zaid ibn Sanaah and the funeral of the Jew. Muhammad, as was his practice, never let any person seeking charity go empty handed. Sometimes, to fulfill the need of the poor and the needy, he even took loans. He had taken a loan from Zaid bin Sanaah , a wealthy Jewish merchant. Zaid urged him to return the loan before the stipulated period and catching Muhammad by his mantle, he said that the progeny of Abdul Muttalib(Muhammad’s grandfather) were always defaulters. Umar could not bear the verbal abuse of Zaid and wanted to beat him up, to which Muhammad advised Umar – “We might have had better treatment from you. You could have advised me to be more careful about the return of loans and you could have advised the Jew to be more courteous in demanding repayment” and ordered that Zaid be compensated in addition to the repayment of the loan.
A funeral of a Jew passed by him and he stood up and his companions asked him why he was honoring the funeral of a Jew to which Muhammad replied “Was he not a living being” On an interpersonal level, Muhammad always urged people to deal with others in a respectful, just and compassionate manner. During the caliphate of Umar, when he saw a old Jewish man begging to make out a living, Umar was so deeply affected that he ordered the State to generate a stipend for all old and feeble non-Muslims.
When Ali was the caliph, he saw his armor in the hands of a Jew in the market. Ali brought the case in the court of Qadi Shurayh and the judge ruled in favor of the Jew, lacking evidence to Ali’s claim. The Jew was so impressed that he embraced Islam seeing the justice and honor Islam accorded to peaceful non-Muslims. Amazingly, this Ali was the one who was the commander of the forces against Banu Qurayzah.
Behind the back of your head, you are thinking why not Muhammad could just forgive like Jesus. The case is crystal clear – you are comparing apples to oranges. Jesus’ mission on earth is in two phases – the first phase was to call people to the worship of One True God and give the message of Gospel and the second phase would start when Jesus descends again before the end of times – where he would kill the Antichrist and wipe out all the false religions including the hoax called Pauline Christianity. Muhammad on other hand not only preached the message but established the Divine Law and a system governing every sphere of life. Jesus never saw any of his companions tortured or uprooted from their homes. He never established a community of believers like Moses and Muhammad. He never dealt with warring tribes ready to annihilate the believers. So how can you ever compare these two very different personalities ?
Random Guy • 3 years ago
Christians, the people who think 1+1+1=1…
Alex • 3 years ago
@Al Deablo and Rawad. Just to come back on the topic of freedom of religion in Islam guys maybe you would like to try and deny some of the following as well or try and put them into context:)
Quran 4;89- They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.
Sura 9-11-12″But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.”
Sura 9-29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
According to verse 4:80 of the Quran: “Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah.”
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ” Note that there is no distinction as to how that Muslim came to be a Muslim.
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mu’adh to sit down but Mu’adh said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
Ps Rawad you tried giving me the earlier quote Sura 2:256, Let there be no compulsion in religion for truth stands out from error. I looked into that.
However didn’t Mohammed later instruct in Quran verse 9:29 that Muslims should fight unbelievers until they relent and accept Islam or a state of humiliation under Islamic rule.
Again I will look forward to your denials and your talk of context:) but at least you will not say I am not sourcing my writings. Enjoy your weekend.
shabaan • 3 years ago
we all know that every one has to choose his or her faith , even Allah said that in the holy Qur’an verse 256 but refer to SODOME and GOMORRHE by the time of the prophet LOT God destroyed the world because of one sin, isn’t ? then let me give you an example ; LET SAY WE ARE TRAVELLING INTO THE BOAT WE ARE MANY PEOPLE SEATED SAFE AND QUIETLY AND I TAKE SOMETHING METAL MATERIAL AND THE HAMMER AND START TO DIG THE BOTTOM PART OF THE BOAT WE SOMEONE SEES ME AND STOP ME AND MY FRIENDS SUPPORT ME AND SAY TO THE GUY NO LET HIM BECAUSE HE IS DESTROYING ON HIS SIDE if you are wise what are you gonna think ? because when water come inside the boat all of us will die because of stupidity of only person is it making a sense, that’s ISLAM we need to save the world.
Alex. • 3 years ago
Sources for Al deablo and Rawad. Proof that Mohammed broke the 10 commandments given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai and therefore proof that Mohammed broke the commandment of Jesus which was to love thy neighbour.
1) THOU SHALL NOT KILL-Asma Bint Marwan (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995)
2 slave girls who mocked Mohammed (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819)
(Abu Dawud 2678)
800 Jews beheaded at Banu Qurayza- (Bukhari58:148)
Quran verse 33-26
Condoned the killing of a woman Abu Dawud 38:4348
by her blind husband
2) Thou shall not commit adultery- Sura 4-24, Abu Dawud 2150, Sahih Muslim 3433
3) Thou shall not bear false witness- Bukhari 52:269, Bukhari 59:369, Bukhari 49:857
4/5) Thou shall not steal/covet neighbours goods-Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 425
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428
6) Thou shall not covet his neighbours wife. Sura 33-37
I also never realised that Mohammed married a 6 year old child and had sex with her when when was 9.
Even worse It seems that some of the koran was revealed to Mohammed when he was in bed with this little girl. Bukhari 47:755 (Mohammed said) Divine inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha.
So now you have your sources guys which of these hadiths are you going to claim is untrue I look forward to your replies.:). Ps you should be ashamed of yourselves for denying your faith.
Alex. • 3 years ago
Ps There are many more examples of negative behaviour by Mohammed when you look at the hadiths. It is worse than I thought. If you would like me to outline and source more of these negative actions just say the word friends. Goodnight.
Kara • 3 years ago
Proud to be a Muslim female convert, Alhamdulillah!
Alex • 3 years ago
@al deablo Sorry to copy and paste but I am getting bored of going over the same ground Al Deablo. Firstly I think you need to get over the fact that the bible is translated. The message of the bible is what is important. If you disagree with the message or belief system of the bible we can debate that but to obsess over it being translated is a bit odd. Just because you think the koran hasn’t been translated does not make it right? It is the message that is important my friend and the principles it teaches.
Secondly as I said earlier If you would rather deny huge aspects of Mohammeds life that most other muslims would freely admit to then that is entirely up to you. In both of your arguments you’re sort of unsure whether to try and make excuses for what Mohammed did or deny that they even happened. When I am in a debate with a muslim we always go through the same steps.
1) They deny that Mohammed performed the acts he did. Despite these being widely known.
2) If that doesn’t work they ask for the sources which are widely avalilable just to basically muddy the waters.
3) If that doesn’t work they quote context e.g say that it was a different period in time or he was under attack etc. Obviously if he was God’s last messenger his message should be a universal truth not related to any period of time.
It is not clever to ask for sources and muddy the waters. It just shows that you can not really justify what he has done.
By denying your own faith the only people you are kidding is yourselves. The people on here are capable of doing their own research about the points I have made and you have made and they can see for themselves who is giving the fairer and more accurate account.
Finally I say to anyone following this debate. Read widely understand the ten commandments and the commandment of Jesus and you will see that Mohammed in the actions he performed broke the ten commandments and the one commandment of Jesus and is therefore the false prophet. Sorry Al Deablo the only profile Mohammed fits in the bible is the false prophet. We believe Jesus will come again, not Mohammed. Mohammed offers sexual rewards in heaven, this is a perfect example of why he is the false prophet if we needed anymore. Your comment made me smile though.
Ps bit silly to say the Koran is scientifically correct Al Deablo. You mean about the earth being flat and the sun revolving around the earth? You still believe that? Yes I do believe that 1.6 billion muslims are incorrect to follow Mohammed. However I am sure you think that 2.3billion Christians are wrong to believe in Christianity.:) I would like to conclude Al Deablo by saying despite all my comments on here regarding Islam as a Christian I strongly believe in religious freedom and believe that all religions should be free to practice their religion in peace without fear of discrimination and persecution. I do not believe in restricting anyones religious practices. I have given you my opinion and you have given me yours. Best of luck to you my friend.
Anon • 3 years ago
MASHALLAH
Alex. • 3 years ago
(2000 years not 200 years)
Al deablo • 3 years ago
Alex I would hate to tell you this but you still haven’t told me your sources. Also i think i have answered your questions about Islamic countries in my last comment. Also i don’t think Rawad thinks you have a point or else he would have already said so. lastly i want you to use your mind for a second, if Mohammad was a false prophet why would his book, the Quran, have so many scientific facts , that would be impossible for a man living in the middle of a desert to know. For example, the steps of a babies development in a women’s womb Quran 23:12-14. Why would the religion sent down to him Islam have so many members do your rely think that some many people are misguided. Why would I know 9 year old children that memorized the Quran from cover to cover. Do rely think that a prophet would do the horrible thinks you said and brought down a religion that is the 2nd most popular religion in the world. lastly i am going to just put this out there why has the bible been changed many times in the last few years will if you get a Quran from 200 years ago and one to day they are exactly the same? And don’t give me that to adapt over time thing if your book is God’s words you shouldn’t need to change? it Sorry for any grammar or spelling errors i hope this helps the reader.
Alex. • 3 years ago
@Al deablo. Firstly you have completely ignored my question about apostasy in Islam. How can you say a religion allows religious freedom when people are not allowed to leave Islam and freely convert to another faith? How can you say that this is consistent with religious freedom?
You have given me one example of Turkey which as we both know is a secular democracy where the people just happen to be muslim. It is interesting actually that you have picked the one majority muslim country where Islam is NOT a basis for the constitution.lol
You know as well as I do that apostasy in Islam is a crime that can be punishable by death. How can you deny this? You are denying your own faith.
So because it wasn’t the first time the Jews of Banu Qurayza had betrayed Mohammed it was ok that they were all beheaded was it? This was the best solution he could find? How about the woman who was killed for insulting Mohammed. Had she done it before as well?
At least you admit that Islam had no original moral values and the only thing it added to world religion was the prophet Mohammed. This brings me on to my next point.
You say that Islam recognises Moses and Jesus as prophets. You say that Islam was supposed to bring people back to the religion of Abraham. Yes??
THEN WHY DID MOHAMMED BREAK MOST OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO MOSES BY GOD AT MOUNT SINAI?
1) THOU SHALL NOT STEAL.-There are many examples in his life where Mohammed stole. Didn’t he even use torture on one occasion where he used a hot flint on the chest of Kinana (the Grandson of Abu Rafi). to make him reveal the source of some treasure
2) THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY -Mohammed and his followers had sex with married captive women therefore committing adultery everytime.
3) THOU SHALL NOT COVET HIS NEIGHBOURS WIFE( Mohammed married Zaynab who was his stepsons wife)
4) THOU SHALL NOT KILL. (Mohammed killed and beheaded hundreds of people e.g Banu Qurayza Jews), condoned the killing of a woman who insulted him.
5) THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBOUR- Islam has doctrines of Taqiyyah/kithman which justify lying in certain circumstances.
6) THOU SHALT NOT COVET YOUR NEIGHBOURS GOODS.- Again you can use many examples of where Mohammed stole things that belonged to other people.
These are 6 of the 10 commandments that were given to Moses by God at Mount Sinai. A law that had stood for over 200 years before Mohammed came along.
By breaking at least 6 of these commandments he has broken the only commandment given by Jesus which was to love thy neighbour.
How can you follow a messenger who breaks many of Gods 10 commandments to Moses and therefore breaks only commandment given to Jesus. Regards.
Alex. • 3 years ago
2000 years not 200 years.
the raised sword of Allah • 3 years ago
Christians brainwashed by jews and Zionists….
Rawad • 3 years ago
@ Alex, Allow me to answer to your doubts about prophet Mohammed breaking prophet Moses’ commandments :
1- MANY EXAMPLES IN HIS LIFE WHERE PROPHET MOHAMMED STOLE? I wonder from where you get your information because the only example of which you gave about Kinana was brought from a denied hadith and was proofed to be false, but what was proofed to be right even before Islam is that prophet Mohammed was the Honest and the Custodian and Quraish kept saving their money and deposits with him even after Islam !!
2- It’s quite clear in Quran and Hadith that adultery is FORBIDDEN and who commits it gets punished and not the Prophet neither his follows has committed adultery not to a free nor a captive woman . The truth is most of the captive women ( and men ) has entered to Islam and some of them got married to Muslim men.
3- COVET NEIGHBOR’S WIFE ? You know Zaid ( Zainab’s ex- husband) was the adopted son of Prophet Mohammed before Islam , and when Islam came adoption was prohibited in order to maintain the identity of the person , and after Zainab was divorced , Prophet Mohammed’s married her in order to confirm with overwhelming evidence that you can raise a child but you can’t pretend him to be your son.
4- THOU shall not kill? is that even a commandment ? Not to kill?? so if there is a criminal ..an betrayer or a WAR ..THOU shall not kill?
in Islam execution is the last option which was avoided in MOST of the Islamic Conquests and even in war Islam has set rules not to kill a child , not to kill a woman, not to kill an old man, not to burn a house and not to cut a tree! now maybe if you could go back a little bit in the history you could find about the Jews who were living with Muslims in the Islamic countries and those whom left Andalusia with Muslims when Christians occupied it.
5- The true Islam has NOT AUTHORIZED LYING or cheating in any possible way and just because some Christians lie doesn’t mean that Christianity allows lying does it?
6- That’s a repeated pretense and again Prophet Mohammed was ” Al Sadiq Al Ameen” the Honest and Custodian, that’s what Quraish and all who knew the Prophet used to call him even before Islam.
and worrying about the NEIGHBOR i could see you need to Know that Islam has recommended neighbors and their rights until Prophet Mohammed said ” You are not a true Muslim if you sleep while your neighbor is hungry”.
Finally , Prophet Moses , Prophet Jesus and Prophet Mohammed where all sent from the same ONE and ONLY god and they have all received their commands and the message from him, so questioning the message of one , you’r questioning the Justice of God.
Alex. • 3 years ago
It’s always interesting to see how muslims will always lie about and deny aspects of their faith when presented with facts that they are not able to answer.
Anyone reading this Rawad is capable of doing their own research and will see that you are being evasive and not being honest about the negative actions of Mohammed during his life.:)
Firstly you ignored my question about apostasy which was how you can say that Islam allows freedom of religion when you have such a thing as apostasy you didn’t answer that question?
Anyway lets get back to the 6 commandments that Mohammed broke.
1) THOU SHALL NOT STEAL- It is widely known that Mohammed raided caravans and took into his possession things that did not belong to him. After the death of his wife Khadja he found himself without an income and started raiding caravans passing from Syria to Mecca.
That is stealing by my definition!!. Are you really going to come on here and deny your own faith by claiming that Mohammed never raided any caravans? Therefore I think we both agree Mohammed broke this commandment.
2)THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY- Do you really believe or expect others to believe that anyone in captivity freely enters into Islam or any other religion. How would you know? They are slaves, they are in captivity. Any fair minded person would know that a slave enters into nothing freely. So your point there is ridiculous. Mohammed took females slaves and had sex with them. Some of these women were already married. He had sex with them and condoned others having sex with them therefore committing adultery. Another commandment broken.
3)THOU SHALL NOT COVET HIS NEIGHBOURS WIFE- LOL- It doesn’t matter whether it was his step son or his adopted son. The fact of the matter is he took an interest in someone elses wife, a married woman and subsequently married her. That is another commandment broken.
4)THOU SHALL NOT KILL- Yes of course it is a commandment. Beheading 800 Jews at Banu Qurayza could be classed as killing. Also your point about women and children. What about the woman ‘Asma’ Bint Marwan who was killed for reciting a poem about Mohammed. Is this something you are going to deny as well? So I think that is another commandment broken.
5)THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBOUR- You say that the real Islam does not condone lying. So what about the terms Taqiyahh and Kithman. Do they mean nothing to you? People can look these meanings up for themselves? Let me ask you which other religion struggles to define itself on something as simple as this? How can I believe anything a religion says if you condone lying even in exceptional circumstances? Another commandment broken?
6) THOU SHALL NOT COVET HIS NEIGHBOURS GOODS- Again you can use one of the many examples of when Mohammed took war booty from others. Are you going to deny this?? Another commandment broken.
Of course it goes without saying that by breaking all these commandments he also broke the commandment of Jesus to love one another.
In summary you can try and deny and make excuses for the negative actions Mohammed did all you like but the evidence is out there and people are capable of drawing their own conclusions. There is no other religion that needs to deny aspects of their own faith and pretend that their prophet hasn’t done many of the things he has done. You keep claiming this is not the true Islam, this is not the true hadith. Which other religion needs to do this? How long are you going to keep the pretence up? People do your own research. Regards.
Al deablo • 3 years ago
Hello my good friend Alex. I see you have been busy late, now let us get back on the topic at hand. First, I would like to now were you heard or read that Muhammad had sex slaves i have done some research and asked so trusted people I know and each say that Muhammad didn’t have any sex slave, so i would like to see the authenticity of your information. Also, according to the conversation that you have been having with Rawad most of the things you have mentioned are from are hadith Da’if or Mauda meaning that they have little of no sources to back them. Just because a book has those hadith mentioned it doesn’t make it true. Sorry for answering that Question before knowing interly In books publish by atheists mention that there is no such thing as God and give some facts to back them up but as you and I know that their is a god so we don’t think that toughs facts are true. Now on to another topic, in the bile it does mention that a prophet will come after Jesus it is in John 14:26 and John is not that prophet he confess it openly in John 1:20. And with a religion with 1.6 billion members and Muhammad coming in to the world in 570 a.d i think it is him Now I know what you are going to say that this is going of your main about what Islamic countries have religious freedom this fallowing countries have it in their constitution: Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Jordan, Syria,Libya, and other but don’t have time to mention them. However Iran doesn’t so if you plan on going to a Iran to I suggest you don’t. Please ex-ques any spelling or grammar mistakes. I hope this will be help full to you and anyone who reads it.
P.s if you want to ask a sheik contact your local Mosque or go online and search one i am shear they will be happy to help you.
Anon • 3 years ago
Where is your proof? Please don’t tell me you made it up because that seems like the only logical explanation here.
Anon • 3 years ago
oops, excuse me!!!! I thought you were insulting Islam.
Sorry!!1
Rawad • 3 years ago
“lie about and deny aspects of their faith when presented with facts ”
Loool I don’t know were to start in this marvelous sentence !
you know when you are talking about lying and facts you should have a trustworthy background not a bunch of deceitful thoughts which happened to appeal to you..my faith and the aspects of my faith are clear , what i am denying is your false accusations which are based on ” it’s widely known” if you have a better reference so please include it..
Back to your question..Islam ALLOWS freedom of religion and it is mentioned CLEARLY in many places in the Holy Quran …
AL Kahf [18.29] Say: “This is the truth from your Lord. whoever wants to believe let him believe and whoever wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve”
Al Bakara [2.256] “There is no compulsion in religion”
what you are talking about as the penalty for apostasy is totally WRONG, the penalty was imposed for the Apostates who has betrayed the treaty by killing Muslims.
Again to your claim of breaking 6 commandments…
1-What you call “stealing caravans” is called Muslim- Quraysh War which was initiated by Quraysh who killed, tortured, Persecuted, stole Muslims and brought them out of their homes for more than thirteen years , and when it was the right of Muslims to defend their religion they have obstruct Quraysh trade route and No that’s not stealing that’s the siege of the enemy, that’s a way for Quraysh to be subdued and to put their cruelty to an end and they could be pressed to reconciliation.
2-Let me tell you a little bit about CAPTIVES in Islam :
The Refugees had houses of their own, received the prisoners with kindness and consideration. ‘Blessings on the men of Medina!’ said one of these in later days: ‘they made us ride, while they themselves walked afoot; they gave us wheaten bread to eat when there was little of it, contenting themselves with dates.’ It is not surprising, therefore, that some of the captives, yielding to these influences, declared themselves Believers, and to such their liberty was at once granted. The rest were kept for ransom. But The kindly treatment was thus prolonged, even for those who did not at once go over to Islam… even who had nothing to pay he was allotted ten boys, to be taught the art of writing; and the teaching was accepted as a ransom !
3- If you have no further evidence about a point no need to keep talking around !.. the fact of the matter is that Prophet Mohammed has married a divorced woman to emphasize on an illegitimate rule.
4-Killing Asma? Yes unfortunately I’m going to DENY it as well as I am going to DENY beheading the Jew’s of Banu Quraida.. are you going to confirm it? well here is the true story:
Banu Quraidah were the allies of the Muslims in the war and when betrayed them, Muslims forced a blockade on them until they surrendered to the terms of piece.
5- Oh so you are asking which other religion struggles to define itself on something as simple as this? My dear your religion struggles to define itself in the base of the Christian religion otherwise why would have Orthodox and Catholic not agree on who is god and who is not? and were does “each god” come from!!!Christians don’t even agree about their book!!!
6- am i going to deny what? when Prophet Mohammed took war booty from others? who is others is that enemies or what ?
In the end Alex you can keep getting me lies and myths and i can keep answering and giving the truth but you said it ..the evidence is out there.
you know when Mary and Prophet Jesus, Moses Abraham, David, Mohammed and all the others came, there were always those who claimed them to be Liars, Crazy, Magicians, Deceptive and devious and Guess what!! God has defended them but there will still be those who refuse to accept the truth, and what is more important than convincing the others with who’s your God and what’s your religion, is convincing your self that this is the correct thing , and that when you are going to meet God you have the correct answers>>Good luck !
Al deablo • 3 years ago
That is awesome but remember to have a cool mind when in a debate like this it seems like his words are getting to you.
Alex. • 3 years ago
My words are getting to him Al deablo because he knows I have a point.lol He is basically denying huge aspects of Mohammeds life that most other muslims would freely admit to. In both of your arguments you’re sort of unsure whether to try and make excuses for what Mohammed did or deny that they even happened. When I am in a debate with a muslim we always go through the same steps.
1) They deny that Mohammed performed the acts he did. Despite these being widely known.
2) If that doesn’t work they ask for the sources which are widely avalilable just to basically muddy the waters.
3) If that doesn’t work they quote context e.g say that it was a different period in time or he was under attack etc. Obviously if he was God’s last messenger his message should be a universal truth not related to any period of time.
It is not clever to ask for sources and muddy the waters. It just shows that you can not really justify what he has done.
By denying your own faith the only people you are kidding is yourselves. The people on here are capable of doing their own research about the points I have made and you have made and they can see for themselves who is giving the fairer and more accurate account.
Finally I say to anyone following this debate. Read widely understand the ten commandments and the commandment of Jesus and you will see that Mohammed in the actions he performed broke the ten commandments and the one commandment of Jesus and is therefore the false prophet. Sorry Al Deablo the only profile Mohammed fits in the bible is the false prophet. We believe Jesus will come again, not Mohammed. Mohammed offers sexual rewards in heaven, this is a perfect example of why he is the false prophet if we needed anymore. Your comment made me smile though.
I thank you for your time and patience gentleman (if you are males) and wish you all the best in your relationship with God.
Alex. • 3 years ago
Sorry just to correct you on another point Rawad. All Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. They believe Jesus came from God and returned to God in heaven. Did you really believe that different types of Christians worship different Gods Rawad? lol. You need to do your homework my friend. You obviously know nothing about Christianity. The differences come from style of worship and certain theological points about how the church should be run on earth. They do not differ in the keeping of the ten commandments or the message of Jesus. Moreover the differences are nothing to do with who God is. That is simple for all Christians. It is Jesus. Regards.:)
Rawad • 3 years ago
Loool, I can see you’r happy your words are getting to my mind, is that strange to you?..well that’s what I usually do in debate! you know think about what others say..put a possibility that they might be right..compare it with logic and see if it was reasonable and then get a conclusion whether to accept it or not!!!
and Hay look what Christians did when i gave wrong facts about their religion:
1) deny
2) ask for the sources
3) quote context . e.g The differences come from style of worship and certain theological points!! if the differences are so simple and not worth mentioning why where they separated from each others?
Again your annoyed why am I asking for sources? so shall I accept what is said just because it was said? Lol, who’s the fairer and more accurate ! ask for an evidence you are muddying the water..”It is well known ” is enough to build your opinion…!! my dear when you want to make a research and build an opinion you can’t go to a biased source get what you want and move on with it ..try to go for an equitable source ..wouldn’t that be fairer and more accurate? why would impartial people write books about Prophet Mohammed as the greatest and most influential in history? please help yourself with the research thing >> if you need any help feel free to ask 🙂
Alex. • 3 years ago
Sources for Al deablo and Rawad. Proof that Mohammed broke the 10 commandments given by God to Moses at Mount Sinai and therefore proof that Mohammed broke the commandment of Jesus which was to love thy neighbour.
1) THOU SHALL NOT KILL-Asma Bint Marwan (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995)
2 slave girls who mocked Mohammed (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819)
(Abu Dawud 2678)
800 Jews beheaded at Banu Qurayza- (Bukhari58:148)
Quran verse 33-26
Condoned the killing of a woman Abu Dawud 38:4348
by her blind husband
2) Thou shall not commit adultery- Sura 4-24, Abu Dawud 2150, Sahih Muslim 3433
3) Thou shall not bear false witness- Bukhari 52:269, Bukhari 59:369, Bukhari 49:857
4/5) Thou shall not steal/covet neighbours goods-Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 425
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428
6) Thou shall not covet his neighbours wife. Sura 33-37
I also never realised that Mohammed married a 6 year old child and had sex with her when when was 9.
Even worse It seems that some of the koran was revealed to Mohammed when he was in bed with this little girl. Bukhari 47:755 (Mohammed said) Divine inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha.
So now you have your sources guys which of these hadiths are you going to claim is untrue I look forward to your replies.:). Ps you should be ashamed of yourselves for denying your faith.
Alex • 3 years ago
@Al Deablo and Rawad. Just to come back on the topic of freedom of religion in Islam guys maybe you would like to try and deny some of the following as well or try and put them into context:)
Quran 4;89- They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.
Sura 9-11-12″But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.”
Sura 9-29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
According to verse 4:80 of the Quran: “Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah.”
Bukhari 52-260- The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ” Note that there is no distinction as to how that Muslim came to be a Muslim.
Bukhari- 84:57 (In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”
Bukhari- 84:58 “There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh asked, ‘Who is this (man)?’ Abu Muisa said, ‘He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.’ Then Abu Muisa requested Mu’adh to sit down but Mu’adh said, ‘I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.’ Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, ‘Then we discussed the night prayers’
Ps Rawad you tried giving me the earlier quote Sura 2:256, Let there be no compulsion in religion for truth stands out from error. I looked into that.
However didn’t Mohammed later instruct in Quran verse 9:29 that Muslims should fight unbelievers until they relent and accept Islam or a state of humiliation under Islamic rule.
Again I will look forward to your denials and your talk of context:) but at least you will not say I am not sourcing my writings. Enjoy your weekend.
Rawad • 3 years ago
OoOh Dear Alex I don’t know for what to thank you the most..for giving me sources.. or for using HADITH as resource !!!! yet that creates some confusion to me, to rely on Hadith which is taken from Prophet Moahmmed in my debate with you or not? because when I use that as a resource to prove that you are wrong in one thing Hadith becomes a lie because it is coming from a liar ( prophet Mohammed ) to you..but when you use that as a resource to prove that you are right in one thing Hadith becomes trustworthy !? I am not even sure if we are on the same page or what?
You know Alex a “Source ” in my definition is what you trust enough to build your belief and your argument on it ..and it is just and trustworthy to you, and if so when you use a source that means that you believe it,,and you believe the facts mentioned in it.
So before going on to the other points of which you brought and just to make sure that this conversation is reasonable and might get us somewhere useful, answer my simple question :
DO YOU BELIEVE HADITH OF PROPHET MOHAMMED AND CONCIDER IT A ” SOURCE ” OR NOT?
IF YES: then back to the definition of the “SOURCE” Prophet Mohammed is NOT A LIAR and you trust him and trust what he says enough to build your prospects of facts on what he says!
P.S : in this case you are denying your faith.
IF NO: then you need to go back to your previous comment and build your ” theories” on a different ” SOURCE”, or else i will be discussing a man who DOES NOT BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS!
waiting for your reply to go on with mine 😉
Alex • 3 years ago
Sorry Rawad your reply is nonsensical. It is obvious that you can see my replies are valid and you have run out of things to say. You may as well have written that last reply in a different language. I have given you my references to the chapter and verse and proved all my points about mohammed having broken the commandments. If YOU have got any issues with the references I have used then lets hear them and I look forward to your reply. Do you accept the hadiths I have quoted would be a better answer. You asked for references and now you don’t want me to use them. How ridiculous?
Ps you have no credibility to be honest Rawad because you deny things that other posters on here e.g abdullah admit to. Lol. You deny your own faith.
Alex • 3 years ago
Ok so because I am not a muslim I cannot reference the hadiths. Lol. Your arguments become more and more ridiculous Rawad. I have given you my references chapter and verse for all the points I have made. If you can come back with a sensible answer feel free. If you reject any of the hadiths I have mentioned lets hear it.
I predicted days ago we would go through the same stages of denial didnt I?
4 steps of denial muslims use about their faith when presented with uncomfortable truths about mohammeds life.
1) deny it happened.
2) ask for sources.
3) quote context
4) say the reader doesnt believe and therefore cant give an opinion. Classic.
Predictable Rawad you havent let me down.lol
Rawad • 3 years ago
hhhhhhhh Oh Funny Alex though you didn’t answer my ridiculous question i am gonna answer yours.. just because you’r not Muslim you can reference the Hadith but first you need to know which hadith a Muslim would consider a reference and which not ..you can’t just google “prove Mohammed is a killer ” and come back to me with an answer and then get upset when i don’t accept what you say !
Anyway, I am gonna reject some of the hadith which you have mentioned but I can see that you already know the answer.. or you can just use your “prediction sense ” and predict what I would say and then answer yourself ..Isn’t that even better at least you get to talk to someone honest !
Dear Alex, let me teach you one thing about Holy Books..This is something you can use for the future … when you use the Holy book to prove a point, you don’t just open the book and fetch the word kill and then get excited because you found what you wanted !
believe it or not or not this word is mentioned in all of the Holy Books even Bible !
You know God has gave us the The Holy Book and he also gave us the Brain and he said USE THEM TOGETHER !
So here are some steps of which you need to know about using a Holy book:
1- Read the hall chapter.
2- Use your Brain to understand what’s there.
3- AGAIN use your Brain to know why did God say this and what shall we conclude from this.
4- Compare it with LOGIC and see if your brain accepts it or not !
See, i am recommending these steps to you Sir Alex because I used them with more than one Holy book and they always work..my result was that Quran is the only Holy Book which matched Logic and my brain accepted..
so Until you decide to use those steps and get a reasonable result, my discussion with you would be a waste of time….I can’t show you the truth .. your brain is tho only one who’s responsible for this, and whenever you feel lost ..ask god ( the real one ) he must guide you!
Deep wishes : )
Alex • 3 years ago
Again you asked for references I have provided you with the references. If you have feel that any of the hadiths I have quoted are not reliable then feel free to say exactly which ones I have quoted that you reject. Until you can do that your point is absolutely meaningless. Regards.
Al deablo • 3 years ago
@Alex. I have come again to answer your question to the best of my ability. for your first question. Turkey is an Islamic country 99.8% of it population is Muslim. Turkey has religious freedom according to its constitution so you can go and preach your religion according to the law in article 24 of its constitution. your 3rd question says that in Islam you can’t have doubts. if your truly except what is in the hadith and what is in the Quran the n you shouldn’t have any doubts. but when you have any questions you have about Islam and your are Muslim feel free to ask them go to a mosque and as the man in charge i think that he will be able to answer your questions. i had doubts about Islam at the beginning but with research and time they were answered. And if your you are in 2 religion at the same time i thing that is each of there book something will contradict the other. Imagine if you were to be both Muslim and Christian wouldn’t thing in the bible and things in the Quran contradict each other. Islam i don’t think had any original moral values to add to what has all ready been reveled before but Islam was send as a reminder to the people to bring people back to the religion of Abraham. In the Quran it touches on the basic values of all mankind, conveniences, and refinements. the prophet did 800 Jews in Medina but not for no reason nor for the fact that they were Jews. they were executed because they were casing treachery not one time, not 2 times, but 3 times for giving information and seaport to the people of Qurash ( they were like the Romans to Jesus). And in the united states are you not executed for committing treachery against the U.s. once. For stealing when the Muslims left Makah to Medina to escape operation the Qrash decided to take all the Muslims positions and sell them in the market. When the Muslims heard of this they were angry and asked to prophet to see if they an get the possession back they prophet didn’t what to but he agreed. In the and Muslims still didn’t get their possession. Lastly in Islams you are aloud to have salves but thoughs slaves have right those rights still apply to the women slaves so the prophet couldn’t have sex with them unless the were ok with it, and if you think that is impossible, you would be suprised about how many people comet sex out of marriage willingly. sorry if there are any spelling or grammar errors hope this answers your questions.
Alex • 3 years ago
@abdullah. Despite all your waffle, you have still not answered the question I have put to you. If islam is so strong then why are they so scared of letting christians spread their religion and build churches in muslim countries. You contradict yourself by saying in one sentence that no muslim will accept christ but then you say that christians should only be able to preach to one or two hand picked people ie have no religious freedom. So you are basically saying that people should be protected from themselves and that christians should not be free to openly preach their faith. You bizarrely rant about freedom of religion not being a christian concept. Which part of christianity contradicts freedom of religion? Quite what native americans have to do with anything is beyond me. Noone is saying that People who claim to be christians have never done anything wrong but there is no justification for killing in the teachings of Jesus.
The biggest irony is abdullah is that if muslims in christian countries were bullied and discriminated against like christians are in muslim countries you would probably be calling for a jihad wouldnt you saying that muslims are being oppressed. Unbelievable hypocrisy and you cant even see it. Lol
Al deablo • 3 years ago
Hello Alex I going to I am going to answer your original Question in a short and brief way. In the religion of Islam we allow people to practice their religions freely it even says so in our holy book. People can preach their religion in public in Islam and there are christian churches in Muslim countries. I have been to Egypt many times and i have seen churches there. Also people that fallow a religion sometimes don’t fallow everything in their book that is way you see some Muslims countries not like there to be churches built. Like how in Christianity one of your ten commandments is not to depict God but in the Vatican city you see a painting with Jeus and right next to him is God. Sorry if there are any grammar errors.
Alex • 3 years ago
@al deablo. Really!!lol That is completely false and we both know it. I have been in this field a long time and have travelled all over the world. We all know that in no Islamic country muslims are allowed to leave their religion and become murtad.
We know that the penalty for apostasy in islam is death and we know that if someone is caught preaching his religion to a muslim he can be imprisoned or put to death.
I am curious to know al deablo in which islamic country you have been to where muslims are allowed to investigate other religions and leave islam without fearing for their lives. I would also like to ask you in which islamic country i would be allowed to stand in the street hand out bibles and preach the message of the gospel. The reality is that muslims are free to investigate the truth of other religions only through islamic sources. At the end though they must accept islam or face death.
How do you reconcile apostasy with freedom of religion?
If you can be put to death for leaving islam how does that allow for freedom of religion?
Some of us have read the koran and the hadiths aldeablo. The truth is now out there my friend. To simply pretend that islam is friendly to other faiths is not enough. People can see what is written with their own eyes.
Alex • 3 years ago
Sorry I didnt address your other point. The ten commandments reference is to do with worshipping other idols e.g pagan gods. Christians believe jesus was god so therefore there are no issues for us with putting him on a painting. Our god is a loving god al deablo as long as we accept jesus as the son of god and the way to salvation then we do not need to worry about some paint on canvas. Regards.
Al deablo • 3 years ago
My oh my i see this is going to be fun. If Islam is truly a bad religion as you say it is way is it that over 1.6 billion people have become Muslim. If a religion is as bad as you believe why does it have so many followers. and their has been Muslims that has converted to Christianity and have are still alive and Christians to Islam. Also if Islam is a religion of that oppresses other religions why is it that when the Muslims conquered Jerusalem in 637 a.d way are all the famous christian churches still standing why didn’t Umar destroy them. Also if Jesus was the son of god does that mean that Jesus worshiped himself and if he is the son of god how do you know that he is the son of god i do not think that he ever ones said he was the son of god and if he is god how is he also the son of god.
Alex • 3 years ago
It is indeed fun! Why cant you answer the questions that I have put to you? So because some of the old churches are left standing that demonstrates freedom of religion does it?
1) in which islamic country are muslims allowed to freely investigate other faiths and leave islam without fearing for their lives.
2) in which muslim country would i be allowed to stand in the street and freely preach the christian gospel.
3)How do you reconcile apostasy with freedom of religion. How can you have a true belief if you are in fact not allowed to disbelieve and follow another religion?
I was trying to keep to the point but maybe if you want to extend the argument you can answer some more questions.
4)Which original moral value did islam contribute to world religion?
If mohammed was gods last messenger why did he set such a bad example?
Why did he behead 800 jews? Why did he condone the killing of a woman who had insulted him? Why did he take a third of all women captured in battle as sex slaves. Why did he steal in order to further the cause of islam? These are sins are they not? Are you saying that they were ok because everyone was against islam at the time and he was doing gods work?
If he truly was gods last messenger he would have set a better example like jesus did not killed people, took slaves and condoned people being killed for disagreeing with him.
Alex • 3 years ago
As christians we believe in the trinity, father, son and the holy spirit. God is father, son and holy spirit, one God existing in perfect relationship with himself
Think ice, steam and liquid they are all water. Sorry not trying to patronise you but its difficult to explain to someone with no knowledge.
Jesus isn’t gods human son, jesus was gods son who became human so he could enter our world and die for our sins. He came down to earth and then rose again to heaven.
You were asking where jesus says he was the son of god. There are many references to it in the bible but try john10:36, john11:4, and matthew 16:15-17. Regards.
Ps maybe you can answer my many doubts about islam now. You could maybe explain how someone who performed the barbaric acts mohammed did is a better moral and ethical example for humans to follow than jesus.
Rawad • 3 years ago
@ Alex …you’r giving the bible as a reference but the question is ..can you’r bible be a reference ? and regarding the “barabaric ” acts of Prof. Mohammed may be you would like to go a little bit more through the history of spreading Islam and rules of Isalmic war , and then go through the crimes committed bu Christians in the middle ages ..after that lets talk again about spreading religion by sword. you could watch this video and if you have any further doubts a priest’s answer maybe more convincing than mine :youtube.com/watch?v=iHFgcRGIrH0
Alex. • 3 years ago
I don’t really see the relevance of your comment. You say ‘so called Christians’ in the Middle ages were violent. What has that got to do with anything?
THE VIOLENT ACTIONS WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE WERE COMMITTED BY YOUR OWN PROPHET. That is the difference. A prophet who was supposed to be Gods last messenger to you. What Christians or anyone else did in the middle ages is completely irrelevant. What a stupid point to make. You are just muddying the waters.
Jesus never forced anyone to believe in him, even his own disciples. He never killed anyone, stole or took slaves. He demonstrated a better way to the world. He could hardly be described as violent or encouraging violence could he? Mohammed on the other hand. Well? lol
Rawad • 3 years ago
THE VIOLENT ACTIONS? so prophet Abraham in The Battle of Siddim has a violent action? prophet Mohammed was not the first to go into war DO YOU KNOW THAT? well why does you’r bible say:
“”I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword” (Matthew 10:34) and why was the word “sword” replaced with “division” in the Luke bible?
WELL What does the ORIGINAL BIBLE SAY?
Oh Jesus never forced anyone to believe in him ….as the son of God ? so why did God had only one son? why did God send his one and only son to the earth to make him die for our sins? why would he kill his own son for a sins that he never did? isn’t God Justice? Hasn’t God created the Hell to punish those who makes sins? and if Jesus was already a GOD then why would a GOD become a human to enter the world of human which HE HAS ALREADY CREATED? hasn’t God Created Prophet Adam ? hasn’t he send him to the earth ? wasn’t he already in heaven and then he was sent to the earth? how is that possible for a human to transfer between the earth and the heaven while a “Jesus GOD” needs to become a human?
ICE , STEAM and LIQUID ? so three shapes of God ? They are all water but each one acts in a different way? one God existing in perfect relationship with himself? well Sir Alex it doesn’t need enough knowledge to get what you say… it needs enough logic for you to get that what you say is a NONSENSE .
again you’re giving a proof from the bible well HELLO !!!! you’r bible was distorted.. and that’s why God has sent another book ..The HOLY QURAN !!!!
Alex. • 3 years ago
Ok so you want a basic Christianity lesson.
God is perfect…Holy…without sin… he can’t have any part of sin in him or with him…or he wouldn’t be God.
God gave mankind free-will to choose (good or bad) but ultimately God wants us to be with him.
All men have sinned, fallen short of perfection and made mistakes and bad choices. This was demonstrated originally by Adam in the Garden of Eden.
So the question now is how can a sinful man be made clean and good enough to be with God? After all once you have done a sin you can’t undo it yourself. It has been done!
The sin has to be atoned by a perfect sacrifice…forgiveness, the old cleaned away and being born again in to a new life.
The only sacrifice perfect enough to achieve this was God giving his only son a perfect human and part of God , both in the same person.
Jesus was so perfect other men couldn’t stand to be with him, they told lies about him and put him to death simply for being who he was.. and God his father allowed him to die…for us… so that whoever believes in him and accepts his sacrifice for themself will not truly die because they can go into the presence of God in heaven as Jesus did when he rose from the dead.
You asked why God couldn’t simply forgive? Why couldn’t God simply make everything ok without the sacrifice. He couldn’t as he had to be consistent with his own idea of justice. God has to be perfect or he is not God…he gave man free will (the ability to make his own decisions and he was right to do that… so he can’t forgive and make it right without justice…someone has to pay for the sin. It’s God’s own laws. Jesus paid for the sin!!
You also have to remember that we Christians see God as a loving God, a merciful God. We believe that God sent Jesus to show his love for us as he sent his only son as a sacrificial gift. Jesus demonstrated to us all ultimate sacrifice, love and courage.
ps. For a more detailed explanation to your queries contact your nearest church I’m sure they will be happy to assist you. All your questions are answerable. Regards.
Alex. • 3 years ago
It’s ironic but to most people Islam is the most obviously man made religion of all. Islam has no original moral values. The only thing it has contributed to world religion is a prophet called Mohammed who kills, loots, steals, commits adultery, takes slaves etc and in the process breaks most of the original commandments given to Moses at Mt Sinai (someone who basically did many negative actions and then said it was ok because he was doing it in God’s name! In breaking the commandments given to Moses he breaks the only commandment given by Jesus which was to love thy neighbour .
You try and criticise Christianity as being distorted just because the bible has been translated. You should instead look at the message. What is more distorted than a man who breaks the commandments of the two prophets who Muslims believe came before him. That would make absolutely no sense. lol
Alex. • 3 years ago
Ps I come to bring peace not a sword? Again in the grand scheme of things hardly groundbreaking is it? I repeat again, Jesus enever forced anyone to believe in him even his own disciples.
It’s not as if he went round beheading people or anything is it like someone else we know? :). A lot of your points are extremely trivial. The overall message of Jesus is peace, would you really try and argue against that?
Abdullah Abdurrahman • 3 years ago
@Alex – The basis for the freedom of religion in modern times is based on the humanist revolution that took place in the West and it has got no roots in the Christian dogma. Western civilization which stands on the principle of separation of the Church and the State has been the torch bearer of equality and fraternity at least theoretically. The Christians have a long history of persecuting the minorities wherever they had an upper hand. The mass genocide of Muslims and Jews in Spain, the annihilation of many Native American tribes etc. are just a few glaring examples of Christian behavior. The Western civilization, which is basically consumerism and capitalism, does not involve with the creeds of people as long as they do not challenge the political and economic principles of the nation. So you are basically free in the West to propagate your beliefs. But even in this environment, no Christian church had ever had any success with any Islamic communities. You might find a stray individual here and there – jumping over to Christianity but when looked deep in, reveals either monetary benefit or a relative easier debauched lifestyle which Christianity offers so freely. Moreover, you can collect statistics from all the missionary schools active in Muslim and third world countries. You will never find Christianity ever penetrating the souls and minds of Muslims. Christianity being an unnatural dogma, can never replace the pure monotheism taught by Muhammad and all the Biblical prophets, including Jesus. This Pauline hoax, nurtured by the pagan Roman Empire, has always tried to lure people with a guise of love. The Law is nailed to the Cross, so it proclaims. Muslim communities have always felt this pulse of the Christian missionary activity. They are more than welcome to debate and argue religion with the well-read intelligentsia and the scholars but preying on the emotional weakness of simple-minded people is an absolute no. An educated Muslim can never accept a human as his god but there might be individuals who feel the temptations of the flesh that Christianity offers and due to lack of God-consciousness, lose their belief and fall in the deep mire of polytheism (deifying Jesus ) – ultimately leading to the Eternal Damnation.
Ali • 3 years ago
Bravo..it was a learning, reading your text.
Al deablo • 3 years ago
Nice job man you are awesome.
zephyr • 3 years ago
Hinduism believes in trinity ie birth life and death actual cycle the rest of gods are demi gods
We believe that every soul is equal to ours and it is the reason we fold our when we greet
Hinduism is a religion which existed way before any religion and it has been proven
Every life , every soul , is respectable and is hindu by birth
Ie why all religions convert their children into theirs post birth by various rituals
reader • 3 years ago
Vedic philosophy is good, however the rituals and social customs (superstition of caste system) in Hindu practices are ridiculous and backward.
zephyr • 3 years ago
No religion is flawless
And those flaws do exist because we as human beings are flawed
Alex • 3 years ago
As christians we believe in the trinity, father, son and the holy spirit. God is father, son and holy spirit, one God existing in perfect relationship with himself
Think ice, steam and liquid they are all water. Sorry not trying to patronise you but its difficult to explain to someone with no knowledge.
Jesus isn’t gods human son, jesus was gods son who became human so he could enter our world and die for our sins. He came down to earth and then rose again to heaven.
You were asking where jesus says he was the son of god. There are many references to it in the bible but try john10:36, john11:4, and matthew 16:15-17. Regards.
Ps maybe you can answer my many doubts about islam now. You could maybe explain how someone who performed the barbaric acts mohammed did is a better moral and ethical example for humans to follow than jesus.
Maruf ahmed • 3 years ago
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Maruf ahmed • 3 years ago
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1234567 • 3 years ago
World is short of resourses. Any sensible and educated person will limit child birth to 1 or 2 but these people don’t care about anything they take pride in just making babies even though they have no money or ability to look after them. Who do not get proper education or anything other training to help support life and peace. And this puts burden on the family and then on the state and then on the neighbouring countries disturbing their peace and happiness. Where ever they go there is no peace they don’t know to live in harmony with the rest of the community. They choose what they want to obey from their religion and what did not want to obey giving importance to voilence and blood shed of innocent people which includes comman man and elite and rich dictators. The main cause of all problem is unrestrained and over productivity of their reproductive organs which for men is pleasure at the expense of the torture and pain of the women.
Maruf ahmed • 3 years ago
Please do not comment on ISLAM religion.
If all you wanna know truth just read Quran Sharif.
Quaran sharif, has all the answer of your question.
First all of you grab some knowledge than argu on ISLAM religion.
I said all this thing, not for that becoz i m muslim, becoz i read
Quran sharif daily, i have all knowlege of Puran & bible.
But truth is truth.
Mohd shoeb • 3 years ago
Yes i’m agree with u
muslim are best
A • 3 years ago
ONLY ONE RELIGION – HINDU IS BEST !
HINDU RELIGION WAS THOUSAND YEARS AGO
ISLAM AND CHRISTIAN WERE ARRIVED TOO LATE,
WORLD IS UNDER HEAVY PRESSURE ONLY DUE TO TERRORIST ACTIVITY, AND THERE IS NO NEED TO SAY TERRORIST ACTIVITY FOLLOWERS FOLLOWS WHICH RELION
aamir • 3 years ago
first do some home work.islam with adam alai his salaam the first man on earth and 1st prophet of islam.and one of his son started worshipping stones and idols.he was born india.thats why stone and soil and river,sun ,cow,rat,elephant,monkey,snake,worshippers are found only in india
reader • 3 years ago
Where does the Kaaba worshippers come from?
reader • 3 years ago
There is a large number of Muslims who are leaving Islam as well. Muslims who objectively research Quran, Hadeeth and Sirat end up leaving Islam
Alex • 3 years ago
Reply to Shaun. I do not hate anyone. This is a forum where people can discuss these sorts of things in a sensible way. I believe in religious freedom for all. If I meet a Muslim or a Jew I would treat them and their religion with exactly the same respect as I would another Christian. My question though which as yet has been completely unanswered is when will muslims countries and communities freely allow Christians and other religions the same freedom of religion that they have themselves in non muslim countries???? Is there any muslim on here that can come up with a better answer than ‘it is because we are right and you are wrong’. Regards
Maryam • 3 years ago
In our country, United Arab Emirates we have church’s everywhere + mosques.we have Christians friends from all around the world! We respect there religion & thy should respect ours. Our differences & beliefs won’t stop us from interacting with people because god has told us we should get to know other people, from different races countries & religion.But What you should be asking Christians & Jewish why they look at Muslims in a bad way, why everybody thinks that Muslims are terrorists. You’ll be surprised but I’ve donated money for a Jewish student so he can study university.I’ve been abroad to many countries, Europe, America & Asia. Some people respected us & some people didn’t. Can you please look at your fingers for a while, do they all look the same or have the same sizes,no. That’s how we people are, we aren’t all the same, so you cant judge Muslims by an act that one Muslims did.R.I.P. The 2976 American people that lost their lives on 9/11 and R.I.P. the 48,644 Afghan and 1,690,903 Iraqi and 35000 Pakistani people that paid the ultimate price for a crime they did not commit. Let me tell you something, Islam is perfect but Muslims are not. Our prophet Mohammed has said that we should respect other religions he didn’t say we have to have war with them.there are many verses in the Quran that says that. But it’s sad that some Muslims do not take that in consideration.& sorry but not all Christians respect our religion & Mohammed. And for your information Jesus is one of our prophets that have been sent from god, read the Quran & you will understand. I hope this answers your question 🙂
Alex • 3 years ago
Jesus being one of your prophets means nothing. Jesus to christians is the son of god. Therefore he is the moral and ethical example for christians to follow.
As Muslims you believe in mohammed being the last messenger so you look to him as a guide of moral and ethical behaviour. You cannot follow jesus and mohammed their teachings are polar opposites. Jesus didn’t kill people. Jesus didn’t take slaves, jesus didn’t force his religion on anyone even his own disciples, jesus didn’t condone the killing of people who insulted him. It was not his way. So in what way was he similar to mohammed? He was different in every single way.
Alex • 3 years ago
You don’t answer my question though Ahtesham. I am asking if Islam is as strong and as logical as you say it is then why are muslim communities and countries so scared of allowing christians to build churches and spread their faith openly?
Surely people should be allowed to believe in what they want shouldn’t they?
Christians do not disrespect Mohammed, they just do not believe in him. Jesus taught us love thy neighbour, not love thy christian neighbour. Jesus never forced anyone to believe in him, not even his own disciples, Jesus never killed anyone in the name of religion, never beheaded anyone, never condoned violence, never took slaves, never stole to further his religion.
The only criticism of Christianity you can think of is because it has been translated? Is that the best you can do??
aamir • 3 years ago
@alex…didnt prophet Mohammad (pbuh) teach to spread love…??? prophet Mohammad(pbuh) said no muslim can b a true muslim if his neighbour sleeps with an empty stomach…He didnt say muslim neighbour…He meant it for all… ALLAH commanded us to respect all religions…ALLAH said us not to make any compulsions in religion…and u telling about Jesus (pbuh) teaching love…not beheading anyone…so can u pls explain… can any nation or tribe rule its people without punishing the criminals for their crime…if this is wat spreading love for u means…can u think of a world where criminals are allowed to walk free after commiting even the most cruel crimes…??? can v live in such a world…??? so i m afraid ur concept of love is hypothetical…Muhammad (pbuh) thought us a complete way of life…. a justice system an economic system a political system…evertything…this is d beauty if islam dat it is a complete faith
Alex • 3 years ago
Aamir the koran does not contain one single original moral value. It contribues only one new idea to world religion. This is that Mohammed is Allahs prophet his last messenger. Lets look at the life of Mohammed, the example he set. Firstly you say Mohammed was spreading a message of peace. Mohammed killed hundreds of people including the beheadings of 800 jews at Banu Qurayza. The questions to ask is would Jesus have acted the same in that situation. No!! Jesus would have FORGIVEN those people and shown them a BETTER way not just killing them. On another occasion Mohammed condoned the killing of a woman who insulted him, is that the behaviour of a peaceful man spreading a message of love, why did he not demonstrate a BETTER way by forgiving the woman and TEACHING her a BETTER way.
Mohammed took people esp women captured in battle as slaves!! He also stole by raiding caravans. Are these peaceful actions? It seems that everything and anything is ok as long as it is advancing the cause of Islam??
Of course society needs rules, no Christian would suggest otherwise. Of course crimes need to be punished. Christians are not pacifists. This is a misconception. The bible says turn the other cheek, it doesn’t say turn the other cheek then turn the other cheek then turn the other cheek again!! What it is supposed to demonstrate is that Jesus taught us to look for the peaceful reasonable solution first. The concept of forgiveness is one of the most important messages in the bible. An eye for an eye, the whole world goes blind has never been more true.
Some muslims argue that Mohammed only did what he did due to the times he was living and you have to look at the context. I do not accept that. If Mohammed was Gods last messenger you would expect his teachings and example to be as relevant now as they were then. It should be a universal truth!!.
The teachings of Jesus are as relevant today as they were then.
As for being a complete religion that could also be described as being overbearing and smothering, hindering development. As Christians we are happy to have a legal system based on Gods principles however we don’t believe that every last detail has to be followed like a recipe book. God gave us a brain capable of thought for a reason. If we were supposed to be robots and follow things like automatons why did he give us that area of the brain to analyse things and solve problems??.
There are many other issues I am not going to have time to cover e.g apostasy. How can you have a religion which you are not allowed to leave and if you do it is punishable by death? Is that really a belief if you are not allowed to disbelieve it?
Could you perhaps also answer one of my earlier posts? If Islam is so strong and so confident then why are they afraid and unwilling to let Christians preach the gospel and build churches in their lands. Why am I not able to tell you about my religon in your country as you can tell me about yours in my country. is there a better answer to this than because I am right and you are wrong??
Regards.
Maryam • 3 years ago
Sorry to tell you but you have no idea about Mohammed & the Quran, have you read it completely, you’ll be surprised that it doesn’t mention Mohammed SAW that much. Islam has so many verses about women & how they should be respected, you have no idea how our prophet Mohammed has respected women how he treated the fairly.
Alex • 3 years ago
Maryam if I am wrong tell me how I am wrong? Did Mohammed behead 800 people? Did Mohammed condone the killing of a woman who insulted him? Did Mohammed take a third of all women captured in battle as slaves? Did he not steal to further the cause of Islam? Tell me how I am wrong and how I have misread all these things? By just saying Islam is perfect you are not answering any of the points I have made. You say the koran does not mention Mohammed that much. What is that supposed to mean? Are you trying to say as a Muslim he is not immportant and you do not follow his teachings. What kind of a point is that to make??
Abdullah Abdurrahman • 3 years ago
@Alex – If you had studied the life of the Blessed Prophet Muhammad with an unbiased mind, you would not have come to these outrageously false conclusions. Muhammad was the man whose message was based on the proclamation of the Absolute Oneness of God. For thirteen years in Mecca, he tired himself day and night, proclaiming this message. He denounced the false deities worshipped by the pagan Meccans and called people to the worship of One True God – the Lord of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. For this reason, he was ridiculed and brutally attacked. He saw with abject helplessness how his faithful followers were tortured day and night. Sumaiyya was the first martyr of Islam – an old lady whose crime was that she believed in One True God and his Messenger – Muhammad. She was killed by the thrust of a spear in her womb. Many others were dragged on the hot streets of Mecca under the burning sun. Muhammad and his entire clan was boycotted for three complete years where shortage of provisions compelled them to survive on leaves of trees and so much so that strewn pieces of leather were boiled and consumed to ward off hunger. In the city of Taif, where Muhammad went to call people to the worship of One God, he was pelted with stones and chased away – his shoes being filled with blood. Despite all this, when Umar would ask him permission to take up arms to defend themselves, he would always say “O Umar, hold back your hands until Allah makes out a way”.
Until permission was given for Muslims to migrate to Madinah, they knew no respite. Even while they were escaping with their lives, they were stripped off their belongings and property. In Madinah, when they thought they would get some peace, the Meccans wielding their influence, incited the Arab tribes from all around into aggression against the Muslims. Now started the second phase of revolution – which was to set in motion a campaign which would establish the rule of Divine Law on earth.
Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors (2:190).
This must also be kept in mind that this Prophet was supposed to be the culmination of Prophethood and there was no Messenger to be coming after him. “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” Like unto Moses, this Prophet was raised from the Ishmaelites – the brethren of Israelites. Muhammad was to launch a world revolution that would change the destinies of millions amongst mankind. He was not supposed to be a simple preacher who puts forward just theoretical principles but nothing in action. Like unto Moses, he was to take up action against all false ideologies – whether it be idol worship or crooked Pauline Christianity.
The false accusation of stealing can easily be seen through – both friends and foes alike agree that Muhammad lived a simple and hardy life. His house was a small thatched dwelling. And his wife Aaisha reports that months would pass by at their home without lighting a fire (to cook). They survived on dates (which was supposed to be the poor man’s meal) and water. This was, when the entire Arabia lay at his feet. When he died, he left neither money nor anything else except his white riding mule, his arms, and a piece of land which he left to charity. Sahl Ibn Saad, one of Muhammad’s companions, said, “The Prophet of God did not see bread made from fine flour from the time God sent him (as a prophet) until he died.” He had no servants, no retinue and no bodyguards. Not only him but his entire family survived taking the bare minimum from this world. Once his dear daughter Fatimah requested him to assign for her some servant, he said “Should I not give you something better instead. Before you sleep every night, praise, glorify and extol God” He sent her back empty handed. Yes, Muhammad had to fight wars to safeguard the message of Divine Unity. He had to defend his followers from the onslaught of war-mongering tribes and in this regard, he had to take offensive when they had crossed all limits. He showed the most humane treatment to the prisoners of war. In the Battle of Badr, when a large number of Meccans were taken captive, he set the ransom – the captives had to teach the Madinan children how to read and write. In the Battle of Hunayn, many women and children of the tribe of Thaqif were captured and when the tribe sought for peace, Muhammad immediately returned back all of them. As a statesman, he was responsible for the survival of the State and as a law, if he collected war indemnities from the warring tribes, he was completely justified. The spoils of war were then spent on the warriors, orphans, widows and the poor. Since in your hatred, you do not want to see the context, it is easy for you to demonize the person. I would be dishonest if I say the American civil war was fought by a bunch of crooks who were plain faithless to Her Majesty. The Boston Tea party was enacted by some street urchins looking for some fun and Abraham Lincoln killed the Southerners because he was blood thirsty. You see – when you take away the context, I can come up with many ridiculous scenarios the way you are doing with the life of Muhammad.
Abdullah Abdurrahman • 3 years ago
A treaty was concluded between Muhammad and the Jews of Medina – one of the terms being mutual and binding help against outside aggressors. At the Battle of the Trench, when the entire nascent state of Muslims was encircled by a 10000 strong army of Arab pagans, the Banu Qurayzah decided to switch sides. This was an act of utmost selfishness, moral depravity and a breach of trust during a time of intense emergency. The pagan Arab army was fortunately dispersed by a raging sandstorm. The very existence of the Muslim community was at stake and if it was not for this timely divine help, the entire Muslim community would have been annihilated. After the departure of pagan Arabs from the scene, Muhammad asked the tribe of Banu Qurayzah for an explaination. They asked for a mediator and the Prophet generously gave them the choice to select a one. They selected Saad Ibn Muadh , who as the chief of Banu Aws , was their long term ally. Saad Ibn Muadh , bearing the weight of justice, gave the verdict – according to the divine law of Moses too, the punishment of high treason is execution.
It is highly deceitful to conclude from this incident that they were executed because of them being Jewish. They would have been executed even if they were Muslim. Still today, the punishment of treason is death or life imprisonment in most countries of the world. In dealing with the Jews and people of other faiths, Islam had always shown great compassion. History is witness that Jews were always prosperous and in peace under Muslim governance, whether it be in Moorish Spain, Fatimid Egypt or Ottoman Turkey and the Middle East. It was Umar ibn Khattab who had facilitated the entry of Jews back into Jerusalem after they had been blocked for more than 500 years by the Roman or Christian emperors.
Alex • 3 years ago
Again a lot of text but very little substance. Mohammed was the moral authority when 800 jews got beheaded for treachery. He could have saved those peoples lives and demonstrated a better way but he didnt. The question to ask is this the action of gods last messenger. He could not have found a better solution than death by beheading? Could you explain also why mohammed condoned the killing of a woman who insulted him? You say he treated prisoners well ok so why was it that one third of all women captured in battle were taken as sex slaves? Was that to keep morale up? So because he ended up with nothing it was ok that he stole by raiding caravans was it? It seems like every negative action mohammed did you try and justify it by saying that it was for a good cause so in the end ok. He killed, stole took sex slaves but that was ok because everyone else was against islam and he was just doing gods work. Its a weak argument and you would/should expect better from someone who is supposed to be gods last messenger.
Woodly • 3 years ago
Dear Alex; I’m with you all the way. Thing is, I think it’s time, past time for us in the west to finally realize that Islam is incompatible with Western values, that we are now to some extent, and will be in the future at war with this religion. The greatest of all wars, I think, between Christendom and Islam. I hate to say or even think it, but it’s clearer and clearer that it has to be fought in one way or another.
How do you tolerate the intolerant, how can we co-exist with those who despise our values? Whose religion consider us Infidels whose holy book counsels killing us?
ahtesham alam • 3 years ago
@alex..bcoz islam is the one and only relegion which is logical and true.and islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.unlike christians we dont disrespect any prophets,either of jesus or moses or any prophets.we beleive them as the prophets of allah NOT the god himself..Bcoz there is no god but allah and MOHAMMAD S.A.W is the last messanger of ALLAH.we also dont change our holy book acording to our convenience and no body can change this.try to read your authentic bible you will find the our messanger mentioned in bible.
reader • 3 years ago
There is no mention of Muhammad in the Bible. The Bible only warned against false prophets unless you say those are for Muhammad.
Shaun • 3 years ago
Why can’t we all just get along. I have never ever been able to understand the hatred between Jews, Christians, and Muslims they all believe in the same god. It’s like chemistry, you prefer organic but I prefer biological, regardless it’s still chemistry. No need to fight over which is better.
They all believe basically in the same thing with different interpretations and a few others. Jews and Muslims don’t believe that God can have a son, while Christians do. Another interesting thing is that the majority prolly 99% of Christians don’t know to much about the bible. The bible is only a handful of letters written by the disciples. For starters Jews and Muslims read their holy texts in its untranslated form, not many Christians know hebrew and greek. Meanings get lost in translation and without understanding the culture at the time things definitely lost or misunderstood.
Also to me it seems that Judaism concentrates on actions- actions speak louder than words, Islam is more on intentions- what did I intend to do, if someone put pork into something I ate without me knowing how can I be accountable, with Christianity it’s on words. From being surrounded by Christians they do whatever because they can always ask for forgiveness. Christians say love your neighbor and when a gay couple moves in they burn their house down and then ask for forgiveness. Of course this is with most faiths but Christianity seems worse about it.
Personally Universal Unitarianism is the way to go and then we could all get along without abandoning our individual faiths.
Maryam • 3 years ago
I totally agree with you, *round of applause* 🙂
Moruf • 3 years ago
Okafor is a big liar, I am a Nigerian too, no muslim is converting christain, because he is from the eastern part of nigeria where the christain dominated, what about all other parts that dominated by muslim and are even populated than eastern part. Nigeria is muslim country.
Alex • 3 years ago
My only comment to this is if Islam is so strong then why do they deny Christians the right to build new churches and openly preach their faith. Christian countries generally allow muslims freedom of religion but the vast majority of muslim countries do not allow christians that same freedom of religion (freedom to construct new churches/openly share their faith!).
If Islam is so strong then why are Islamic countries so scared of granting full religious freedom to other religions in particular Christians? It is only when people are allowed to freely choose their own religion that we will see the TRUE strength of each individual religion.
Maryam • 3 years ago
Alex, Christians & other religions have more freedom in our country,UAE. They get to wear whatever they want, they do not respect the clothes policy, they wear very very short dresses, all we asked them to do is to cover there selves till the knees & to not do sexual stuff in public places, but some didn’t respect that policy. Our teachers are Christians & some, are atheists, our maids are Christians, Muslims,Buddhist but we treat them equally.go to every GCC country or Arab country you’ll find a church, we take our maids to the church whenever they want to, our rulers support the churches to build a hospital by million & millions of dirhams. We welcome people from all religions but as long as they respect ours, we’ll respects theirs. I hope you change your idea of Muslims & as I said before, Islam is perfect but Muslims are not, sadly 🙂
Alex • 3 years ago
The overwhelming majority of muslim countries Maryam will not allow Christians to build new churches as they wish and will not allow it’s muslim citizens to become Christians if they wish to. Only when Christians are freely allowed to build churches and spread their faith openly and only when muslims are allowed to convert to christianity or other religions without any kind of discrimination will you be able to say that Islam is tolerant of other religions.
Could you explain the meaning of apostasy Maryam to the readers of this board and how that fits in with your idea that Islam is tolerant of other religions and allows religious freedom. Your rulers giving a donation to a hospital Maryam does not change the fact that Christians are openly discriminated against in many muslim countries. How can you deny that?
The key thing you said is as long as people respect us. THAT IS THE PROBLEM!! problem. It is what muslims believe is disrespect. What exactly do you define as disrespect? By me telling people in your country about my faith and encouraging them to believe in the same as me that to you would probably be a sign of disrespect would it and then you would be justified in punishing me am I right??
Mike Jones • 3 years ago
Allah is the greatest,
LOVE ISLAM AND PROUD xx
Aayan • 3 years ago
“Islam” is the best.
Aayan • 3 years ago
I proud to be muslim.
Anwar Haq • 3 years ago
sir i am pakistani American i visited pakistan few times back in 1990 pakistani populations was 179 millions now their no cences been done because of war since russian invasion area upto now. its just gess
after 23 years pakistan populations my estimate over 300 millions plus
there shortage of schools.housing gas.roads are crowded i spoke to the cences buero they agree with my numbers now look at avg houseold have 4to7 childrens schools are overcrowded needs of. more hospitals according to the populations growth its completly change traffic have big. lines it tell me its very over crowded and there more peoples then i thought please correct you # pakistan populations is over
300 millions and keeps growing fast pace dont forget there been 8 milluons. afghan refugees came most
of never went back in 1978 russian invasions these familys had avg 5 kids
pakistan popylations fastest growing. population in the world also in the asian world these are the fact not fictions thank you sir…….
Alkhaerul Indonesia • 3 years ago
Alhamdulillah… Muslim will being majortiy religion… Allah give hidayah just to elected human .◦°˚˚°◦
Let them with his belief.. Persons who have hidayah will find Allah in their heart.
Allah blessing Us…
Islam dalam damai dan kasih..
Ur Ikhwan
Cirebon Town.
Indonesia
Said • 3 years ago
Christians you misunderstood the message of Jesus(pbuh). you made him waht he is not, he is not the son of god, but he is the servent and the massenger of god and his words directed to Mary, and god sent him to children of Israel. it was Poul the one univesalized christianity,and he was the one who corrupted the INJEEL(GOSPEL). I say to you (Christians) leave the darkness of christianity and the contradiction of fabricated bible. Come the light of islam before your death it is good for you no more chance after death.
reader • 3 years ago
If Christians corrupted the Injeel, do the Muslims ( or Muhammad) have (or had) the “real uncorrupted” Injeel?
If Muhammad did not have the uncorrupted Injeel, then did Allah commanded Muhammad to tell Muslims to follow corrupted Injeel?
the raised+sword+of+Allah • 3 years ago
its under the ten mile long library in the Vatican ask the pope t release it, or does it contain too much info for the masses to handle…ask em why the hid the dead sea scrolls…
Woodly • 3 years ago
You should probably work on your spelling along with your soul
Jonathan Pike (Christian) • 3 years ago
The Bible tells us that when Christ comes back he will enter through the Eastern Gate of the city of Jerusalem the Muslims were so scared of that prophecy that they sealed the Eastern Gate . So when Christ steps down and a great earthquake opens the gate and he walks in just know you were wrong and its to late. Repent and ask Jesus Christ into your heart for today is the day of salvation.
Ziyad • 3 years ago
You can lie as much as you can, We Muslims love Jesus probably more than you..
We also believe in Jesus and we believe in his miraculous birth. A Muslim is not Muslim if he doesn’t believe in Jesus. But then again if your story was true who’s controlling Jerusalem now? Israel. While the Jews don’t even believe in Jesus they could fit in your story more.
reader • 3 years ago
There is a theory monotheists priests were preparing summary of Juedo-Christian Bible to envagelize Arabia and their manuscipts were stolen or ceased. Perhaps all Quranic peacefull teaching were meant to be for Jesus(since Quran may very well be that manuscript) whether Muhammad and his compnaion claimed this manascript as their own and ascribed to Muhammad. Jesus is mentined many times in Quran (though a false Jesus, copied from heritical doctrines) while Muslims say Muhammad mentioned in Quran only four times (in fact that is also questionable).
Maryam • 3 years ago
It’s not questionable, that is correct. The Quran doesn’t talk about Mohammed SAW very much, he mostly mentions Jesus & Mary(maryam) but he also talks about himself, about forgiveness & mercifulness, about how he made us all with different colors & places so we can meet, he talks about paradise, he talks about hell, about the people who disobey & obey him. He talks about the people who sin, about the equality & fairness, things we have to know in life. About the way this life has been built, of course not everything but scientists get to know information from the Quran, tell us how the moon & sun works & stuff like that. He also mentions stories of the time of Ibrahim & Moses, & about so many stuff that cannot be counted. The Quran is not a copy of the bible, it is the other way around. Let me ask you a question, why does the picture of Mary has a scarf on her head ? Doesn’t that let u think about Islam ? Christians don’t wear the scarf, but the mother of your god(Jesus) is, how’s that ?
Alex • 3 years ago
What a ridiculous argument about Mary wearing a scarf on her head. Are you serious? Mary was Jewish!! So because the custom at the time was for a Jewish woman to wear a scarf on her head then Christians should wear a scarf should they?lol.
THE KORAN OFFERS NO SINGLE ORIGINAL MORAL VALUE did you know that Maryam. Judaism and Christianity both came before Islam. The only new contribution that Islam offers to would religion is that Mohammed is God’s last messenger. That is it.
When we look at the example set by Mohammed e.g the way he killed/beheaded people and condoned the killing of people who disrespected him not to mention taking non muslims captured in battle as slaves and stealing to further his cause then we can see the reason why Islam struggles with the issue of violence
You can not ignore the example set by Mohammed. Like I have said previously if he was God’s last messenger you would expect the message he gave then to be as relevant to people now than it was then. It should be a universal truth. We shouldn’t need to talk about contexts etc, why would you need to offer excuses if he really was God’s last messenger.
You keep talking about Muslims believing in Jesus. Let me say to you maryam you cannot believe in Jesus and follow the morality displayed by Mohammed because they are miles apart. Their message and their approach was polar oppsites.
xxxsingh • 3 years ago
I agree with dev and wahal , they r the true indian and very gud human beings.. they already know whats good and wats bad.. a person who has been following quran and still killing others on d name of religion.. cant be a true person.. and a gud human being.. people like osama and other terrorists dnt even think before killing some 1 if its a hindu or muslim.. infact if all the muslims are 1 then y r they killing each other in pakistan on the name of suni and siaas .. khalida.. do u think people praying namaz 5 time a day and then killing non ismalics people are right.. coz people r doing tht.. well done wahal and dev..
Abdullahi Shamsideen (Nigeria) • 3 years ago
Assalam Alaik bro & sis in islam. Firstly, i dnt see any reason y u shld b arguing abt population, weda d christian r more populated dan d muslim or oda way round doesnt matter. Secondly, Allah (swt) said in many verses of d holy Quran dat he ‘ll guide whoeva he wish & dat eventhough u warn dem, they will not reason bcos they are too blind & deaf 2 see d truth. Thirdly, i want 2 briefly talk abt islam. Islam is d religion of peace also d only religion (if well practice accordin 2 d teachings of our bluvd prophet Muhammad [saw]) lead u 2 Jannah(paradise). Y? Bcos its d only religion dat acknowledges d ONESS of Allah, bliv in his prophets includin Isa(Jesus pbuh), bliv in his angels, his book(D holy Quran) & judgement day. Let me b frank wit u, every prophet has his own era & was sent 4 a reason. Durin d tym of Moses, if u dnt follow his teachings, u’ll definately miss heaven. Dsame tin appy 2 d era of Jesus. & afta him Muhammad (saw) which we must obey his teachings although nt compulsary bt 4 ur own gud it is. I ‘ll tell u categorically dat christians ‘ll nt make heaven. Y? Bcos they associate Allah wit anoda (shirk). They call Jesus their personal lord & saviour. As if dats nt enough damage, some(d catholic) even worship his mother Mary. 4 d fact dat he was born by a virgin doesnt make him God or son of God. Wot abt Adam & Eve? They ‘ve no parent remember?… So i ask u 2 sit an think deeply. Seek knowledge of islam & i assure u ‘ll find out 4 urself dat it is a very beautiful religion & way of life. If u need some1 2 talk 2 as u accept islam i’ll b glad 2 share my little knowledge wit u. All u nid do is add me on facebook search Abdullahi Ash Shamzy Shamsideen. I pray dat God ‘ll open ur eyes 2 see the truth (Amin) & we muslims, i pray dat God ‘ll giv us more Imaan (faith) amin. SALLAM!
Adam • 3 years ago
Islam is the best or not, more spread or not, that is not the issue at all..? The issue is: which religion answered the dangerous questions for a human being..? I described theses questions as “dangerous”, because every man has been asking them in his/her mind. No matter he/she was Muslim, or non-Muslim. What are these questions, and why they were dangerous..? The questions are: what was before this life, and what is after life one’s (after death). And what the relation between before and after..? Why man kind just has ability to choose freely between many responses, but animal couldn’t. Is it acceptable for man to die and then nothing..? Impossible. And these questions are dangerous, because if not solved correctly, the man will suffer of emotional disturbance , and his/ her soul got irritable, for all his life time. Theses questions will jump over his mind again and again, until the man reached to correct answers, or dying..! so, the issue is who the religion answered the dangerous questions for a human being correctly..? and I believe that Islam answered they correctly.
shaikh • 3 years ago
My HINDU FRIENDS SAY THERE ARE 33 CRORE GODS IN HINDUISM
Muhammad Rashid • 3 years ago
Mr.Drew has done good job exclusively appreciable.
aafi • 3 years ago
Islam will rise
reader • 3 years ago
Islam tried to rise but its falling now and cannot get up.
Maryam • 3 years ago
Islam will never fall, it will always rise forever. It’s Arabs & Muslims who fell, but we will get up one day inshallah soon & I hope you’ll be alive to see us rising to the top like we were before & remember my words 🙂
Yakov • 3 years ago
I don’t get why people fear the Muslim Influence so much I live in Brooklyn, NY. I’m Jewish and I live right in between a very religious Muslim neighborhood and a very religious Jewish neighborhood. Both these neighborhoods embrace each other and respect each others teachings so much, they try each others cultures. Sometimes they pray at each others prayer house as a sign of courtesy. One of my best friends is even Muslim, he isn’t even that religious and I’m not that religious. We share issues, he keeps on falling for white christian girls and I’m bisexual, we understand each even though we are so different. Can’t you give a hold the hands not of a Muslim but of a human being.
Sorry I posted this with the wrong E-mail
ahtesham alam • 3 years ago
freind all over the world islamophobia is spreading rapidly..
reader • 3 years ago
alam, do you mean the usage of the term ‘Islamophobia’ is getting higher amonst Muslims while non-Muslims are actually comming to know the real face of Islam and getting awakended and becoming more cautious?
Mohd Junaid Ansari • 3 years ago
Islam is d fastest growing religion in d world.
That’s why other jealous us.
I suggest them that learn islam & they will find islam is d best religion its a challenge.
Will • 3 years ago
I suggest instead of learning Islam you learn how to spell and make sentences
xxxsingh • 3 years ago
And y do u think, its the fastest growing religion ind world…? What r they gettimg out of it..? R muslims scared of just praying alone … so they want to convert every1 in their religion. And how far do u think coversion is right n y do u need to…? If u believe then u pray..but y do u want to convert others…
vivek • 3 years ago
Brother, islamization of india is underway. in last 10 years the ratio of muslims have increased from 11 percent to 17 percent. . u can imagine that. . hindus will be diminshing. . and even christians coz islam believes in caliphate. . and it takes pride in having 15 children in a family. . says “allah ka reham hai” . its the blesaing of allah. . I am totally against this faith and will be totally against these beliefs. . .
Sunarty • 3 years ago
Al-Qaeda and Terrorism is Quite right because they obey the commandments of the Qur’an, because the Qur’an says: “slay the infidels wherever they are” . so the Qur’an must be revamped rather than quell Al-Qaedah and terrorism.
The leader of the Arab leaders also cannot be blamed for People lying in the Qur’an allow to lie and betray other people who became Arab guidelines: “when you see something better then that, and forget the Covenant that we agree upon or which you have promised to other people even if you swear in the name of Allah, then Allah is good will forget that your vows”, so the Qur’an teaches us to be lying ,
a number of countries reject islam came to their country because they fear Muslims will impose these verses of the Qur’an in their country
There are millions of Muslims leaving Islam because this verses, they regard the Qur’aan is not true, so is there should modifications and improvements to the Quran in order to be accepted by all?
migo • 3 years ago
Qur’an does not say slay the infidels wherever they are — you are wrong but all verses of Qur’an call to love between all people muslim and other religion but some media says wrong about Islam and i advice you with some sites like islam-guide.com to understand Islam – we love all people
zaafar ahmed • 3 years ago
You are a biggest foolish……in this world.you should learn once Quran then you ‘ll found the truth.without uunderstand you are saying that.because you are a foolish.
Masih • 3 years ago
Dear brother first of all u learn the HOLY book KURAN with your own language with proper meaning kuran is for humanity not against for human.
ahtesham alam • 3 years ago
sunatry..well you cannot say that,becoz you dont know there intentions,and what they are upto.Dear there are so many verses in quran we have to understand.
Maryam • 3 years ago
Alqaeda & terrorism ARE WRONG!!! They did not understand theses verses well, they turn it into there own meanings. This is a story of our prophet Mohammed with his Jewish neighbour
The Prophet had this Jewish neighbour. Everyday the neighbour would throw his garbage at the Prophet’s door! Then, one day, the garbage stopped appearing. The Prophet wondered why and asked people about what had happened to his neighbour. He was told that the neighbour was sick, in bed. So, the Prophet went and visited his Jewish neighbour to make sure he’s ok and to wish him well. So touched was the Jewish neighbour that he later converted to Islam.
Abdullah Abdurrahman • 3 years ago
@ramlall : You must understand the inherent difference between Islam and Hinduism. In Hinduism, anything and everything can be worshipped. Thousands of devis and devtas are worshipped by the Hindu populace. Noble kings of petty kingdoms like Ayodhya and Dwaraka are seen as the Sustainer of the Universe. The Ikshavaku clan of Sri Rama was termed Suryavanshi – descendants of the Sun. Other Hindu deities include cow from the cattle and poisonous snakes like King Cobra. At the far end of the spectrum, you have the Aghoris who try to reach out to the Divine with negative means like eating corpses, consuming human and animal excreta and staying in cremation grounds. Crossing over from Dwaita to Advaita, there are Hindus who would claim no difference between the creator and the created. This list of deities is ever on increase – recently charlatans like Osho and smugglers like Satya Sai baba are added to the plethora of false deities.
On the other hand, Islam stands for the exclusive Oneness and absolute Uniqueness of God. God is One and Alone. He is the Eternal Absolute. Neither He begets nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him. This uniqueness requires of every Muslim to direct all his worship and obeisance to God alone. A Muslim cannot share his worship with any other being. It is a basic tenet in Islam that if anyone ascribes divinity to any other being besides God, that person is doomed to the Fire of Hell for eternity. A Muslim cannot even worship the Prophet Muhammad , who he regards as the last and final Messenger of God to humanity. This complete exclusiveness in worship, which is reserved for God alone, makes a Muslim abhor even the thought of paying obeisance to other created beings. Islam strongly rejects the notion of man-gods or god-men. Although we respect and believe in Jesus, we cannot ever accept him to be god. Although Sri Rama, Sri Krishna and Gautama (Buddha) have been in my list of favorite heroes since childhood, I always look to them as noble and pious human beings but not divine.
I feel sorry for the hassle that you faced in a mosque but a rule is a rule. You cannot be praying to creation in a place designated for the worship of Creator. On the flip side, a Muslim is forbidden to pray in a temple for the very same reason – rejection of divinity for created beings.
sonu joshi • 3 years ago
don’t spread false beliefs . Hinduism also believes in one almighty god known as Nirakar brahm or Om who is almighty and is formless and resides in every thing in universe. Hinduism embraces all and every belief and allows people to freely reach God by different path. He is both Nirakar that is formless and Sakaar that is in form of dieties.
shaikh • 3 years ago
What about 33 crore gods in hinduism
issmet • 3 years ago
I have learnt from hindu friend that a cast in hindu (the arya samaaj )who do not worship idols ,shapes ,forms and creatures…..worship only god.and brother dr zakir naik has given good lecture on wholly scriptures of vedas and ramayan on uniqueness of god in hinduism and preach in beleif of “ekam Brhamma” .Wholly books have same message but people involve in futile fight of opinion.in islam some 124000 messengers have been sent on earth each in their own time and to specific people .may be shri ram was one amongst the wholly prophet with same message of god .up to you to search for knowledge and may god help you understand…………….
ahtesham alam • 3 years ago
then why do you worships stones,trees,cows,snakes, fire, sun, moon, and i heard 1 thing from 1 of my hindu friend that we hindu worships each and every things which benefiets us..
moreover..why do you people worships your so called baba’s..
where is the concept of one god here if you worships so many things, then where the 1 god goes.
what about the 33 crores devi’s and davta’s,why do you worship them.
Explain 1 thing that how the cows and the land becomes your mother?
how could a person drink the urine of cows?
how could a person make his bahus and beti worship the ling i.e penis of his lord..isn’t it shameful?
reader • 3 years ago
I thought Muslims circle around a pagan black stone inside Ka’aba.
reader • 3 years ago
I thought Muslims circle around the paga black stone in Kaaba.
I.S.A • 3 years ago
Jesus loves all over 23% muslims in the world today. Infact, God doesnt know any religion. You are going to be only permitted in heaven when u hav ur eternal VISA which is the salvation of ur soul through your believe in christ jesus. Jesus loves everyone!
I.S.A • 3 years ago
The strongholds of Islam will fall. Its walls will be departed. Islam shall fall. Every soul that have been stolen from light shall be restored. The growth of Islam shall fall in Asia, Africa and in Europe. Islam is falling already. It shall continue to fall.
issmet • 3 years ago
U r Right dear bro the wholly books itself and the last prophet pbuh has already taught us how the world will end .When the last muslim die it will be the end of time .This is our belief
Maryam • 3 years ago
Why do you have so much hater for Islam, Allah loves everybody also. But we shall see who wins in the judgement day & May god change your hate into love
Garba • 3 years ago
actually irfan the population need to be reviewed again justice must to be done because from all indication they want over populate themselves
Garba • 3 years ago
we have to beared in mind that tauheed is to believed in Allah and muhammad is his massenger then applied islam practically not babally.
shadwar uddin • 3 years ago
thats why we dont even pray to our beloved muhammad sallalahu alaihi wasallam becoz it is mention in first kalamah
LA ILAHA IL LALAH MUHAMMADUR RASOOLULAH
(there is no one worthy to worship except allah and muhammad salalahu alaihi wasallam is his messenger and slave)
understood for muslim our prophet is the seconds most high personality after allah we even dont pray to him
ALLAH IS ONE
MESSENGER IS ONE
OUR HOLY BOOK IS ONE.
so all the non muslim bro and sis just b practical and dont look this comment wit hatred just think from ur heart.
b practical and learn islam
IN SHA ALLAH
one day light of islam wil enter into each house and in the heart of all human
again b practical what is right and wat is wrong
kamran zia • 3 years ago
INSHA ALLAH. Rightly said bro
reader • 3 years ago
Isn’t that adding partner (Muhammad) to Allah?
shadwar uddin • 3 years ago
mr. ramlal posted many comments and reply about flaws of islam as define by youuuuu!
ok
actually its not ur mistak u said according to ur knowledge,which is absolutely wrong
i am going to give u a brief intro of islam
Allah is the creator of all creations like human,animal,plats,earth,sun,water,air,etc.
all the creation allah made for human.
such as sun gives us light but it does’nt mean we start praying sun because it is the creation of the creator so instead we should pray to allah the creator
we satisfy our hunger from food(animal as well as plants) same animals and plants r also creation of creator so why pray to animals and give them equal status as to god
similarly wit the human god send down his messenger so that messenger of his time can tell the right path to ignored people like
allah send musa(moses) peace be upon him on isreal to guide them on right path so wat they did after his death slowly slowly they change the religion and started praying moses same wit isa(jesus)peace be upon him,all the messenger from adam alaihis salaam to muhammad sallalahu alihi wasalam invited all the people to same one god i.e allah
but wat happen people of the time of moses and jesus after them, they started praying them we know all of us are creation of allah so howcan we pray creation and put it on the same level of the creator
non muslim at the time of muhammad sallalahu alaihi wasalam ,when he invite them towards islam they use to say we cant leave religion of our forefather without even investigating what is wrong and what is right,but now conditions are worst that people worship even the SEXUAL parts without investigating.
so bro we dont argue people like u becoz u dont have the knowledge whatever u know about islam r rumours
if u r so much knowledgeable and practical go buy the translation of quran from any muslim bookstore and find the mistake if u get success tell us if not then accept islam
Allah challenge in quran to all non muslim:”if u r so powerful and knowledgeable make one verse as any of the verses of quran”
islam is the haq(true) religion, if not prove it with genuin proof
reader • 3 years ago
You sais people worship sesual part without knowing. But some scholars posinted out pagan black stone inside Kaaba is private part of Arab pagan moon godess Uzza. Is that true?
arif iqbal • 3 years ago
i can’t bliv that …..do u pray namaz in your tampal…u have any prove…..mr.Ramlall
abdul • 3 years ago
MESSAGE OF ALLAH IN QURAN:::NIGHT & DAY ,SUN AND MOON ARE AMONG THE SIGNS OF ALLAH (GOD) SO DONT ADORE & OBAY SUN OR MOON (OR ANY THING ELSE), ADORE & OBAY ONLY ALLAH WHO CREATED EVERYTHING (& USING EVERYTHING FOR QURAN IS THE STRAIGHT WAY TO HEAVEN PROPHETS LIKE ADAM,JESUS,MUSA,MUHAMMAD ALL PRONENESS & OBEYS ALLAH (GOD)
reader • 3 years ago
Yet, Allah swears by the moon in the Quran.
Qur’an 74:32 “Nay; I swear by the moon, ”
Is Allah greater or the moon is greater than Allah?
Dev • 3 years ago
Who were Muslims before Mohommad?? Who were Christians before Christ??
Hinduism is not a religion .Vedic culture of India is not a religion .It is a way of Life.Every man born on this planet is a born Vedic.Then men make them Hindu ,Muslim or Christian.
Vedic culture is the oldest surviving culture on earth and it will always be.
400 years of Muslim rule and 200 years of Christian rule couldn’t affect the Hindus what your talking now when India has a Hindu rule?? So keep dreaming that India will have 100% Muslim population.Sooner or later they will be wiped out.
And what your boasting of Muslim population ?? More than 60% are converts who couldn’t remain true to their religion.The weaklings of every religion who got converted.
We in India believe in every prophet and Saint as a messenger of God.We believe in Mohommad and Christ both as Saints infact it was in India where Muslim religion flourished.The holiest place on Earth where all major world religions were either born or flourished.
After Mohommad too we have had many messenger’s of God be it Guru Nanak Devji,Kabirji,Sant Eknath,Tulsidas etc…The list goes on and on.All religions have one purpose to attain Nirvana.So it’s stupid to argue which one is greatest mine or urs. The thing what matters is what does it teach u and what kind of a man you become and do you attain the ultimate truth.
Boasting of population can’t make one feel secure.One plague and one war can wipe out an entire generation.So 350 million or Billion doesn’t matter.
And since all religions believe that God has made all of us so is Bhagwan Allah or God has no mind that he didn’t make one Hindu Muslim or Christian by birth?Religions have been just a tool for a few to rule others.Man is born naked and so will he die all alone.Only his karma done while living will matter.If one religion feels his is superior than others then its bound to get destroyed.
irfan • 3 years ago
i think first of all we are human being can any one have good and bad people population data may be not bcoz these people want to show the power of their community .numbers doesn’t matter but huminity .
Wahal • 3 years ago
You are so right Dev in your analysis and observations. World shouls also know that China, whre over 65% population has No religion, is today the most successful nation in the world. Reason? Thay have NO RELIGION TO FIGHT ABOUT. Time spent is on planning, development and future goals instead of fighting irrelevant issues,
khalida • 3 years ago
well, I don’t want to say that iam disrespecting you but please dear wahal first think and then write , do you know that the religion is the most important thing in the life if you don’t have a religion so how would you know what is right and what is wrong , what will happen to you when you die so lastly I just want to say that iam really and really proud of being muslim
zak • 3 years ago
right khalida
Kael’Thas Sunstrider • 3 years ago
According to Muslim’s own sources and Holy Texts:
Muhammad says women are half as intelligent as men (Bukhari 1:6:301 & Qur’an 2:282),
You are allowed to rape those whom your right hand possesses (war prisoners) (Qur’an 4:24),
Pedophilia is allowed (sex with girls who haven’t menstruating yet, Qur’an 65:4),
Muhammad (At the end of the passage) says lying is OK because the later thing he says is better than the first (Bukhari 7:67:427),
Muhammad had 600-900 Jews beheaded in one day (Qur’an 33:26-27 & Bukhari 4:52:68)
migo • 3 years ago
islam-guide.com
Ermem • 3 years ago
Why are you such a liar ?
Quran 4:24 says
And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.
Quran 65:4 “And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.”
And the other numbers in the verses of quran don’t exist!!!
reader • 3 years ago
You posted the same verse what he posted. Did you understand the menaing? Quran is saying there it is okay for you to have sex with your captives and concubines.
reader • 3 years ago
Also the verse you posted Quran 65:4 says ” … and of those too who have not had their courses;” – menaing Quran is saying it is alright to marry and divorce pre-pubscent (child) girl.
Sad, very sad.
matt • 3 years ago
I am curious as to when India will release its latest religious census results
Alex. • 3 years ago
My only comment to this is if Islam is so strong then why do they deny Christians the right to build new churches and openly preach their faith. Christian countries generally allow muslims freedom of religion but the vast majority of muslim countries do not allow christians that same freedom of religion (freedom to construct new churches/openly share their faith!).
If Islam is so strong then why are Islamic countries so scared of granting full religious freedom to other religions in particular Christians? It is only when people are allowed to freely choose their own religion that we will see the TRUE strength of each individual religion.
elie • 3 years ago
we fight for it that’s why mr alex
ramlall • 3 years ago
Absolutely correctly said! Those who are the stiffest are actually the weakest and most brittle. If your religion is inherently strong and gives succor to the folower, then no need to be afraid! I am a Hindu- Come and do your Namaz in my temple-I have no problem!! In fact I consider it a great virtue that MY temple allows you to pray in your manner.It’s my “victory”-not yours,so to speak. But I once tried to enter a mosque in Kuwait while in transit at the airport and do my “own” prayer and meditation inside it- and the guard almost pointed his gun at me!! What Crap.
khalida • 3 years ago
well dear alex I really didn’t get what you write but if you use the easy English words I will be able to understand u and barely answer you are quistion
zak • 3 years ago
Mr Alex. are follow churches or The Bible. most Christians follow churches rather than Bible they only go churches on Sundays and listen wht other guy is saying.
learn Qur’an before it is too late.
iam very very proud been a Muslim .
Alex • 3 years ago
What a silly generalisation. So out of the worlds 2.3 billion christians how many of them do you know zak? Good for you that you are proud to be muslim. I am proud to be christian. The difference is that muslims are allowed to practice their faith freely in christian countries. Why are muslims scared of letting christians preach christianity in their countries. Are you scared that people might actually prefer christianity?
Bfraz • 3 years ago
for ur information Adhaans are allowed to deliver in western countries, and still every minute every hour some mosque is calling for Adhaan (Masha ALLAH)
Back to ur question, non muslims are allowed to follow their religions the way they want, Islam does nt enforce any one to get convert in to islam because being a muslim the most important thing is FAITH… surely not all muslims will be headin to JANNAH (Heaven) because of their evil deeds and lack of faiths, so by forcely converting some one to ISlam will eventually do nothing
Alex • 3 years ago
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wasim • 3 years ago
Muslims rock ,, and we know it
secular • 3 years ago
no wonder it cannot bend!:)
Ruslan • 3 years ago
The numbers in this article are not correct. They are even not close to be correct. Author has taken the official census results of each country, which are not true in most cases, especially in countries where non-Muslims constitute majority. For example in India there are more than 350 million Muslims, whereas government census shows only 150 million. China Muslims are well over 150 million, but in government census they are no more than 25 million. Such situation is true in Russia, Philippines, Thailand, France, USA and in many other countries where true number of Muslims are downgraded by governments for various reasons.
afsar • 3 years ago
absolutely
khalida • 3 years ago
yap , but since india and some of the ather countries are not as that much developed so some of them don’t have a social security or the country id card so then the government is not able to calculate the real percentage
toton sk • 3 years ago
insallah
mohd qasim • 3 years ago
it is amazing to us
sheikh • 3 years ago
The true religion Islam is growing the fastest on the earth, INDIA is the first to outnumber highest in the world. There are 350 Million Muslims in India thus it makes the worlds Number one population in the world, and the first non muslims country lead the largest Muslim population.
@mk_mohammad • 3 years ago
Islam is the only religion which is made by the “ALLAH” who is created whichever presents on the earth, under the earth, in between sky and earth, and upon the sky in just within six days .And Insha’Allah Islam it will spread with dual speed in the universe till the day of judgment, Islam is the absolute unique religion, suggestion to you all people of the planet to confess the Islam, because it only real fact
ramlall • 3 years ago
You just say things which cannot be cross checked and argued upon! Even I can say my God created everything in 5 days – shorter time than yours! What does it prove? Talk philosophy and with logic- your entire religion will be shown that it contains flaws and flaws. But since you are not willing to hear a sensible word in criticism you cannot see what others say.It’s like saying a thousand times It’s Night, It’s Night when the sun is shining! You want that to be true which you say- not that which exists. So no arguments-I wonder why all
over the world only Islam is a religion where each day 500 Muslims on an average are killing 500 Muslims by Car Bombs, Suicide Bomber,Gun Fights etc. No other religion people do that to themselves. Islam is self imploding, it seems. Due to Karma, let me tell you.If you kill and convert, so will that happen to you.
khalida • 3 years ago
@mk_mohammad I really respect what you write and I am really proud of as you muslims
xxxsingh • 3 years ago
I agree with u alex.. wat I feel is tht they r so week and so scared tht people will get to know their real picture in reality.. if they listen to other religion… whoever says tht islam is perfect n beat religion in d world.. have u ever studied about any other religion, coz to compare u must know other religion also equally well..
Nur Arnaut • 3 years ago
Islam is the best and greatest religion in the world and the Islam truly unites all people (Men and Women) of all nationalities, races, ethnicities, cultural groups, and nations. Islam is truly the guiding force to bringing everlasting peace to the whole world. And I am very grateful and thankful to Allah for being a Muslim, as I have always been from the moment I was born and I will always be a Muslim.
Nur Arnaut • 3 years ago
I love <3 Islam with all of my heart
Lovely Ba Bu • 3 years ago
Subhahan allah very good
Abdullah • 3 years ago
Inshallah in some years 100% Indians will be muslims Inshallah.
iLoveAllah! • 3 years ago
Islam is the best religion EVER!!!!
TO HATERS: DONT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM IF YOU DONT GOT ANY KNOWLEDGE ON IT!
ISLAM IS PERFECT!
(Some) Muslims are not!
But the religion is perfect!!!
May Allah (God) guide us all to the right path of Islam
Ameen!
Sandy Casey Myers • 3 years ago
i am no hater of anyone or any religion, i am only writing this because i am just curios about somethings, that i have seen, and i don’t know who to ask, so i will ask u. but in
no way do i mean anything hateful about this. the muslims in america they are a pieceful people and very nice, but they do not at this time talk about some of the laws that the muslim faith have. i have talked to several and the suject always changes very quick. and i did not know if i had asked something i was not suppose to and i felt very bad. but i would like to know if and when we do get a president and we will, that is of the muslim faith, i was wondering would some of the eastern laws of muslim be made legal in the usa a, because some of the laws u do have are not right now. and i do hope u are able to answer the question with all honesty, it is a question not just myself would like to know, but for all no muslim people would like to know, i thank u so much for ur time and god bless u very much, thank u sandy
Athar Ahmad • 3 years ago
Islam is the only religion which is made by the “ALLAH” who is created whichever presents on the earth, under the earth, in between sky and earth, and upon the sky in just within six days .And Insha’Allah Islam it will spread with dual speed in the universe till the day of judgment, Islam is the absolute unique religion, suggestion to you all people of the planet to confess the Islam, because it only real fact.
mani bhushan kumar • 3 years ago
for worshiping the god there is no need to confess islam because god have not made any religion its made by human. god says maine insan banaya insano ne dharm(religion)banaya.
so my dear friend dont force to anyone to confess any particular religion
Riyaz • 3 years ago
First of all what I want share with my non Muslim brothers and sisters is please go and find out what real Islam is and what it teaches and hopefully it should help you to understand why there are some people are becoming Muslim and why there choosing to be Muslim and then you will understand why there is so many Muslim around the world. And for us Muslim its not that hard to understand.and then you can do your maths.
mani bhushan+kumar • 3 years ago
all religion are good .all r teaching good thing only.if u r thinking islam is good because of ur enough population then a/c to ur concept christian should be better then any other religion because christian follower is maximum
ramlall • 3 years ago
Absolutely! But these followers of Kill and Convert will never understand logic and humanity.
xxxsingh • 3 years ago
Ya u r right ramlal and bhushan but they wont understand us coz they r just blind followers they dont even know whats good and whats bad.. y shud v go n read about their quran n all.. I believe in hinduism n very much satisfied right now.. unlike other muslims who r still struggling to find the satisfaction. And if not then u wud nt say anything to other religion.. once u all muslim should read THE PURE N CLEAN THE HOLLY BOOK OF GEETA N RAMAYAN. . then u will know wat mistakes u have made so far .. and how offten u make mistakes in ur day to day life.. thanks
Bfraz • 3 years ago
If u cant read Quran and about Islam than stop commenting on Islam, u have no idea what u know n what u dunt know, and who said that muslims are struggling? despite of all such conspiracies, not only the muslims increasing but also the faith is getting stronger… as we know what is happening was actually mentioned many hundred years before, if u have the courage go nd search about the arrival of ESSA and Imam mehdi, and u will get to know y things happening and surely u would be thinking how things can be predicted centuries before
arif mahammad • 3 years ago
Islam, in the true sense, is a religion of peace & tranquility in no doubt. But all around da world there happening bomb blast, car bombing, suicide bombing, and innocent of children & people is going to die everyday & as per report there ‘ve connected any Islamic group. May be media’s wrong report or true as we know always they blame islam whenever they get a chance to say. It is noted that islam (religion) is always perfect & flawless in no doubt but there have few peoples (may b Muslim or non-Muslim or any country) who try to create chaos and disrupt for there benefit . So blame those & hate those but not to islam. My request to all Muslim brothers always maintain peace. Allah will bless you in every step of your life ..
Mumi • 3 years ago
True indeed!
Jesse N. Bosso • 3 years ago
Christians and Muslims disagree on the nature of God, salvation, prophets, the true Scriptures, etc. For the great majority of us on both sides, we will not change our views. You believe in Allah and Muhammad as his prophet. Christians are saved by the grace of my Lord and Savior, Jesus. In obedience to Christ, and according to the Bible, we seek to expose error and teach the truth…and, as Christians we teach that Christianity is true. Therefore, Islam, cannot be right. I say this outright so that no Muslim will accuse me of being deceptive or having a hidden agenda. Our goal is to convert Muslims to Christ so they may find salvation in him.
However, please realize that Christians have no hatred for Muhammad, Muslims, or the Koran. Most Christians were not wronged by a Muslim and have not had any childhood trauma involving anything Islamic. Instead, as a Christian we seek to bring glory to the Lord Jesus and in so doing we must teach that Islam is false because it contradicts the Bible. If you are a Muslim, I know you will disagree and perhaps you will take it as an insult or some form of persecution. I hope you do not. But, I am simply being faithful to my Lord Jesus in defending his truth as revealed in the Bible.
I realize that there are many good Muslims in the world who are peaceful, honest, compassionate, and who desire to serve God in truth. I do not fault any Muslim for this. Likewise, I hope you will not find fault with my honest intention to do the same according to the convictions of my heart since I seek to serve God. You may condemn me as an infidel and that is fine. But, my hope for salvation is not found in Islam and its balance of good works verses bad works. Instead, it is found in the work of Jesus who died on the cross and rose from the dead.
Radiashun • 3 years ago
That is totally fine. You are allowed to believe what ever you wish to believe. That’s is how Allah created us. To be different, to have different views whether I agree with you or not. Yes, I am Muslim and Yes I believe your way is incorrect. Think about these Questions and Answer them for yourself.. Maybe you will find some sense in your own beliefs.. Did Allah not send Prophets before Jesus (pbuh) because the people fell astray from the Truth? There are many contradictions in Christianity itself. Isn’t suicide a sin? Is it right to persecute and punish another person for other peoples crimes/sins? If God is all forgiving.. why did he kill his own son? or his own self? Why doesn’t he just forgive? How can God die? How can he resurrect if he didn’t die? Why are pagan rituals like Easter and Christmas celebrated as Holidays that worship the Son of Man? look up SUN OF MAN, SUN MAN, SUN GOD.. doesn’t that sound odd?
In respect though I hope you do not take it as an insult with the questions I ask you of.. Instead take it as Building on positive measures to understanding each other as People who believe in A GOD whether you call him your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ/Holy Spirit or Father.. or we call him Allah.
Alex. • 3 years ago
They are not contradictions Radiashun, you just don’t properly understand Christianity. They are common errors that people make when they only have a limited understanding of Christianity.
Firstly Jesus didn’t take his own life he gave it as a sacrifice to demonstrate God’s love for us. I’ll try and give you a brief explanation.
God is perfect…Holy…without sin… he can’t have any part of sin in him or with him…or he wouldn’t be God.
God gave mankind free-will to choose (good or bad) and he wants us to be with him.
All men have sinned, fallen short of perfection and made mistakes and bad choices. All men have a predisposition or tendency to sin as demonstrated originally by Adam and Eve.
So how can a sinful man be made clean and good enough to be with God? After all once you have done a sin you can’t undo it yourself. It has been done!
The sin has to be atoned by a perfect sacrifice…forgiveness, the old cleaned away and being born again in to a new life.
What sacrifice could be perfect enough? This is why God gave his only son begotten (fathered) Son…a perfect human and part of God , both in the same person.
So perfect men couldn’t stand to be with him, they told lies about him and put him to death simply for being who he was.. and God his father allowed him to die…for us… so that whoever believes in him and accepts his sacrifice for themself…will not truly die because they can go into the presence of God in heaven as Jesus did when he rose from the dead.
Hope that helps.
You asked why God couldn’t simply forgive? Why couldn’t God simply make everything ok without the sacrifice. He couldn’t as he had to be consistent with his own idea of justice. God has to be perfect or he is not God…he gave man free will and he was right to do that… so he can’t forgive and make it right without justice…someone has to pay for the sin. It’s God’s own laws. Jesus paid for the sin!!
You also have to remember that we Christians see God as a loving God, a merciful God. We believe that God sent Jesus to show his love for us as he sent his only son as a sacrificial gift. Jesus demonstrated to us all ultimate sacrifice, love and courage.
The sun God argument, you’re having a joke arent’ you?:) ps I don’t find your questions offensive at all. In fact they are good questions which any Christian should know and research to gain a full understanding of their faith and bring them closer to God. For a more detailed explanation to your queries contact your nearest church I’m sure they will be happy to assist you. All your questions are answerable. Regards.
Ermem • 3 years ago
This pharse you mentioned “God sent Jesus to show his love for us as he sent his only son as a sacrificial gift. ” So the god who sent jesus down muslim people believe in that God ‘ allah translation means God , its not a person , a person cannot die ‘
Maryam • 3 years ago
To us god is perfect, but god doesn’t not have a son. This is a verse from the Quran :
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.’
“”O son of Adam, as long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I have forgiven you for what you have done and I do not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky and then you would seek My forgiveness, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins that are close to filling the earth and then you would meet Me without ascribing any partners with Me, I would certainly bring to you forgiveness close to filling it.”
In this Hadithi Qudsi, Allah gives hope to mankind more than any other narration. It displays the quality and attribute of Allahs mercy. Indeed, He is ar-Rahman, the Most Compassionate, and ar-Raheem, the Most Merciful. In this Hadithi Qudsi, Allah tells man of the greatness of His forgiveness and mercy so that no one would despair due to the amount of sins he may have committed. This is supported by the following verse of the Holy Quran:
Say: O My servants who have transgressed against their own souls, despair not of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Surah az-Zumar 39:53)
This hadith teaches us the importance of realizing Allahs mercy, having faith and hope in Him especially when making dua, calling to Allah alone for forgiveness, and the importance of repentance in the life and faith of a believer.
Allah catches the attention of mankind by calling out, O son of Adam! This is a call to every human being. Why didnt Allah say, O mankind or O People? The significance of this specific call is because it was the first human being, Adam (alaiyhis-salam) who committed the first sin. Adam was an example to all humans of the consequences of sin and how to turn to Allah for forgiveness of ones sins. This gives hope that even after committing a violation, ones sins can be forgiven if one repents to Allah sincerely the same way that the father of mankind sinned, repented, and was forgiven by Allah.
Qur’an 3:45-51 Surah Ale-‘Imran (The Family of ‘Imran)
Behold! the angels said “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ (Maseeh) Jesus the son of Mary held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
“He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity and he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.”
She said: “O my Lord! how shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth; when He hath decreed a plan He but saith to it ‘Be’ and it is!
“And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom the Law and the Gospel.
“And (appoint him) an Apostle to the Children of Israel (with this message): I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I make for you out of clay as it were the figure of a bird and breathe into it and it becomes a bird by Allah’s leave; and I heal those born blind and the lepers and I quicken the dead by Allah’s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe.
“(I have come to you) to attest the Law which was before me and to make lawful to you part of what was (before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah and obey me.
“It is Allah who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a way that is straight.”
“Thereupon she pointed to him. They said, ‘How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?’ Jesus said, ‘I am a servant of ALLAH. HE has given me the Book, and has made me a Prophet; ‘And HE has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and almsgiving so long as I live; ‘And HE has made me dutiful towards my mother, and has not made me arrogant and graceless; ‘And peace was on me the day I was born, and peace will be on me the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised up to life again.’ That was Jesus, son of Mary. This is a statement of the truth concerning which they entertain doubt.”—Qur’an, Surah 19:30-35
Alex • 3 years ago
Islam offers no single original moral value Maryam.
The only contribution islam makes to world religion is that mohammed is gods last messenger. When we look at the life of mohammed we see a man who killed, beheaded people, stole, took sex slaves. You really think that someone who behaves like this is the last messenger of god and someone for the whole of mankind to follow?
Okafor Kingsley • 3 years ago
GOD bless you. Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life.
elite • 3 years ago
You can not possibly believe that GOD has partners/family/wife son? That’s not different than Hinduism where everything is GOD…
reader • 3 years ago
No. Allah lives with Jins, Angels, careted Satan. Needs immoral warmongering prophets to spread His messages and writes books on His spare time.
Maryam • 3 years ago
You are a very ignorant person, he does not live with Jin, do u know what Jin is ? Ghosts. You make me laugh seriously because of your ignorance
reader • 3 years ago
Also Son of God does not mean He has a family. It is a phrase. Son in the phrase ‘Son of God’ does not mean biological son as most Muslims think.
ahmet fatih • 3 years ago
I do not understand that we as Muslims accept Jesus as a prophet but Cristians do not accept prophet Mohammad (asm). We accept Jesus because kur’an accept him as a prophet. We as Muslims believe all prophets. In fact, Jesus informed about the last prophet. Now you can find many evidence that proves the prophet Muhsmmmsad right and the last prophet İn the Yuhanna bible. One of them is the of Pharaklit which has same meaning with Muhammad (asm)
Alex. • 3 years ago
Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God. Christians try and follow his example. Not all succeed I admit but we are supposed to take our morality from Jesus. The example set by Jesus was to love other people regardless of their religion or background. The bible says love thy neighbour, not love thy Christian neighbour. Jesus never killed anyone in the name of religion, never had anyone beheaded, never stole/took slaves etc in the name of his religion, never forced anyone to believe in him even his own disciples. From this you can see why Christians don’t believe in Mohammed. Best wishes Ahmet. Good question.
Paul Jaramillo • 3 years ago
Jesus was the son of God, and Mohammed defies the Torah and the bible as a whole. the Jewish people and Christians know what constitutes a prophet of God, Mohammed is not a prophet from God, he is a prophet from a desert people of nomads who are hell bent of usurping the Judeo-Christian world.
Just because the Quran quotes from the bible, that does not mean that Islam is the path to salvation.
ramlall • 3 years ago
Absolutely- Convert if you will, but by ,logic and love- not by force and at gunpoint as the Muslims do. That is horrible and any God which sanctions that is not a God but something else. It’s like a military academy then!The entire concept of such a God is redundant then. If Allah is so great- why does he let a single Muslim be killed by another Muslim each day.Look at Egypt, Beirut..horrible! No other country with other religions do that.What’s great about such acts, pleas explain!Just blood everywhere. Ugghhh!
Maryam • 3 years ago
Those people who do that do not represent Islam, that’s is not what Allah has told us to do, the talaibian & Muslim brotherhood are over exaggerating with our religion, what they are doing is wrong completely wrong, god did not ask us do spread violence & blood. It makes me want to cry, the way you think Islam is, it makes me cry what those talaiban & Muslim brotherhood are doing, because it’s giving people the wrong idea of Muslims.our religion is totally a NONVIOLENT RELIGION & no Islam doesn’t allow marriage nor sexual pleasure do girls who haven’t menstruated yet, from where did you get that idea totally wrong !!! Islam is the most fair religion with women.
mani bhushan+kumar • 3 years ago
aamin
abdul qayyum khan • 3 years ago
I am very happy to ask this question. now I know this much Muslims are in the world. I want give a message to all my brothers, pl. keep peace in the world. and fallow way of Muhammad sallallaho-alaihe-wasallm.
Mumi • 3 years ago
There is, in fact, very little difference between Islam and the “competing” Christianity. The development of Mohamed’s religion was influenced to a significant extent by the message of Christ. And both do religions profess one and the same God albeit from different perspectives, but with the common aim of the salvation of mankind from mankind’s own weaknesses and the influence of evil which appears to reside in each of us human beings – unless we take some time to commit our lives to God. I think it is therefore unfortunate that some comments here are almost militant and suggest conflict, whose only beneficiary would be “the evil one”. The statistics are only indicative and relate only to what people profess as their designated religions. In reality, few actually understand and live the message of either Christ or Mohamed. If they did, I doubt that the question of competition would arise… I personally know people of both faiths who are counted in the statistic only because they say they are in the group but do not live the faiths. Thanks for the statistics which I required for some research I was doing myself. In the meantime, may as many of us find God in the form that he reveals himself to us – that we find more purpose in fighting against evil than against each other. Hopefully, we believers shall meet both Christ and Mohamed (both of whom clearly lived for the purpose of glorifying God) in heaven and see how they relate. I doubt they will be fighting… 🙂
Sikha • 3 years ago
Sorry to say Islam is not a peaceful RELIGION IN THE WORLD . Check out Muslims every where in the world causing problems , fights . terrorism and trying to control the countries through changing the actual root of the cultures in the west . West is going to doom soon causes they are ignorant and acting like mindless people.
Mumi • 3 years ago
I am afraid there is something very wrong with the generalization on Islam. It may be true that there are some people who in the name of Islam perform acts in the name of Islam (and by extension God) which are very unfortunate. But in history, the same has happened with Christianity and in the name of God sometimes with even worse acts of terrorism. My limited understanding is that Islam IS a peaceful religion. Just some “overenthusiastic””well meaning” but grossly “lost” individuals using the wrong means to pass a message thereby falling in the devil’s snare. Talk about a repeat of the garden of eden lie by satan. I am quite certain both Christ and Mohamed would be so disappointed to come back and find people fighting in the name of God…
Talha • 3 years ago
Well Said.
The Truth Shall Set You Free • 3 years ago
you are 100% correct.
Abdulhakim • 3 years ago
I believe PEW is a biase organisation, for instance in 2009, you reported that in Nigeria Christians were less than 50% of the population and that Muslims are majority, However approximately 2 years later after complaints from Nigeria’s Pentecostal group, you overturned yourselves, now Christians are the majority with 50.8% of the population and the Muslims with an incredulous decrease to 47.9%.
This is a deliberate attempt to continually marginalize the Muslims, I mean how could your research be even credible given that during the period 2009 till now Northern Nigeria is undergoing a rebellious phase-the boKo haram insurgency. Even Nigerians are careful with their movement and often avoid the precarious situations, what more of participating or undertaking any research.
Kindly treat people’s sensibilities with sensitivities and avoid overheating our polity.
A decline in the Muslims’ population is not justifiably, especially when the facts don’t add up.
Okafor Kingsley • 3 years ago
I AM A NIGERIAN MY BROTHER. THE RESEARCH IS VERY CORRECT. CHRISTIANS ARE MORE NOW. IT IS A PROVEN FACT. AND THERE WERE NO COMPLAINS FROM PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES LIKE YOU CLAIM.
IN ALL MY LIFE IN THE NORTHERN, WESTERN REGION I’VE NEVER SEEN A CHRISTIAN CONVERT TO ISLAM EXCEPT ONE WHO AFTER A MONTH CAME BACK TO CHRISTIANITY BUT I HAVE SEEN COUNTLESS MUSLIMS CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY.
SO THE DATA IS 100% CORRECT. I THINK ITS EVEN MORE.
elite • 3 years ago
First, if they converted to Christianity they were really no Muslims to begin with. Secondly, of course, in Nigeria once the Christian missionaries give them food they’ll convert to whatever they ask them to… Sad what poverty does…
BOBJONES • 3 years ago
So it takes Christians to feed these people because the Muslims won’t?
Alex. • 3 years ago
yes
reader • 3 years ago
Bobjones point is great. Also at least Christian missionaries are feeding the hungry and when they are doing that they are following what they preach because Christianity preaches ‘feed the hungry and it is equal to serving your God’. However Islam teaches kill therefore Muslims kill.
Maryam • 3 years ago
Islam dos not teach killing, I am very sad of how ignorant you are about Islam. Please don’t talk about something you don’t understand or know about.
The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practice regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise. (9:71)
Believe in Allah and His messenger, and spend (in charity) out of the (substance) whereof He has made you heirs. For, those of you who believe and spend (in charity),- for them is a great Reward. (57:7)
And We made them leaders, guiding (men) by Our Command, and We sent them inspiration to do good deeds, to establish regular prayers, and to practice regular charity; and they constantly served Us (21:73)
and spend something (in charity) out of the substance which We have bestowed on you, before Death should come to any of you and he should say, “O my Lord! why didst Thou not give me respite for a little while? I should then have given (largely) in charity, and I should have been one of the doers of good”. (63:10)
Those who establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity, and have (in their hearts) the assurance of the Hereafter. (31:4)
Not only does the Quran command the Muslims to give in charity, it also forbids the Muslims from doing this generous act just so he can be praised:
Not those who spend of their substance, to be seen of men, but have no faith in Allah and the Last Day: If any take the Evil One for their intimate, what a dreadful intimate he is! (4:38)
So the Quran condemns those who give charity just so it can be seen by everyone else, just so they can show off to everybody for their own big ego, the Quran is totally against this, and wants the Muslims to give charity out of pure sincerity!
Look at the donations our country has made, it’s even more than this. OCFA records that during 2011, 34 UAE donor organisations disbursed a total of Dh7.74 billion (US$2.11 billion) in grants and loans to development, humanitarian and charity programmes in 128 countries. In addition, the Abu Dhabi Fund for Development (ADFD) committed another Dh674.9 million (US$183.7 million) to development programmes beyond 2011. Just over Dh3 billion of the UAE’s total foreign aid disbursements in 2011 were recorded as ODA, which amounts to 0.22 per cent when measured against GNI.
The UAE Government was again the largest donor in 2011, giving Dh5.97 billion or more than 77 per cent of total aid, followed by ADFD, which disbursed Dh782.3 million. While Dh6.86 billion was disbursed for development projects, representing 88.7 per cent of the total UAE foreign aid and an increase of 201.2 per cent over the figure for 2010, the UAE also responded generously to humanitarian crises, dispatching coordinated UAE Relief Teams to contribute to international efforts to assist those displaced by fighting in Libya, the victims of the famine in the Horn of Africa, and thousands of people affected by flooding in Pakistan. Overall, Dh625.3 million was spent on humanitarian aid in 2011, an increase of 54.2 per cent over the figure for 2010. A total of Dh253.1 million was devoted to charitable projects, an increase of 36. 9 per cent over 2010.
(Development refers to assistance provided to programmes aimed at improving quality of life, such as constructing roads, hospitals or schools, as well as providing economic assistance and budgetary support. Humanitarian refers to assistance designed to save lives and alleviate suffering. Charity refers to assistance provided with a cultural or religious motivation, such as building mosques.)
in 2011, the UAE spent Dh5.17 billion (66.8 per cent of the total) on assistance to countries in the Middle East. Dh817.9 million was spent in South and Central Asia, Dh491.2 million in North Africa and Dh465.3 million in Sub-Saharan Africa. Individual countries receiving the most aid were the Sultanate of Oman (Dh3.68 billion), Jordan (Dh757.5 million), and Kazakhstan (Dh315.9 million).
Overall, total foreign aid disbursement by the UAE in 2011 increased by 176.2 per cent over 2010. While several donor organisations saw variations in their disbursements when compared to previous years, the overall rise in the UAE’s aid is largely accounted for by the almost sixfold increase in spending by the Government. The Middle East and South and Central Asia regions were the biggest recipients of this rise, receiving 77.4 per cent of the UAE’s total foreign aid in 2011, a 321.4 per cent increase over 2010.
Sheikh Hamdan bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Chairman of OCFA, commented in his Foreword to the 2011 report on the impact and motivation for this aid:
Our development iniatives in countries across the world have played a meaningful role in the creation of valuable infrastructure, including roads and water facilities, to promote inclusive progress for all the citizens of the countries where we have supported projects. As Muslims, we have an obligation from Allah to share our wealth with others and to help people become productive members of society. This extends beyond our own national boundaries to countries that share a historical or strategic path with the UAE.
ramlall • 3 years ago
Thank God Muslims are converting to Christianity- it’s much better and a big relief since Christianity is a NON VIOLENT religion and we can be assured the world will be safe later on.
But if it’s the other way round- May Allah prohibit that- everyday we will see beheadings on the road, rapes of new born girls (Islam permits that-before mensuration)
Doba • 3 years ago
This is wrong and manipulated with a purpose! The Real world muslim population in 2012 was 2.01 BILLION. please refer to the site muslimpopulation.com/world. Muslim population is growing @ 1.84% per year!
Mohammad Mehrzad • 3 years ago
I am agree with you because I have also searched a lot about it and I found 2.04 billion in 2013 and increasing 1.84 yearly
Azhar • 3 years ago
Thank You. Your research seems to be the best so far. I’m from india, and i do understand that the figure represented is incorrect clearly understood by your mention as roughly figure, why does a fastest developing country cannot have such measure correctly. Indian muslims constitutes more than 28% of indian population, i want you to oppose me for that with real facts.
arjun • 3 years ago
keep dreaming that indian muslims are more than 28%…
Talha • 3 years ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_pop…
jpm • 3 years ago
Population Growth leads to Scarcity of Resources .Scarcity of resource leads to conflicts between peoples and finally result in civil war . Muslim nations are suffering from civil war because of population growth with out enough resources .
TheAngelofegypt • 2 years ago
You totally have NO idea about why the Muslim nations have civil wrs. Let me hint it for you, something secretly done that has to do with the Illuminati.
IMTIAZ ALI • 3 years ago
SUBHAN ALLAH MASHA ALLAH ALLAH HU AKBAR ISLAM IS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION IN THE WORD AND THE ONLY PEACEFUL RELIGION IN THE WORLD AND I AM PROUD TO BE A PEACEFUL MUSLIM AND I PRAY FOR THE BEST OF WHOLE MUSLIMS
imtiyaz ahmad • 3 years ago
True brother
mani bhushan+kumar • 3 years ago
why r u not praying for all human all r made by god only
sid • 3 years ago
haha they will for others they say their god is different and r their followers..
Rev Andrew A Conteh • 3 years ago
Countries and Population of Islam in those countries
Andrea Caumont • 3 years ago
Here is the section on Muslims from our December 2012 Global Religious Landscape report: pewforum.org/global-religious-la…
And our Global Religious Futures interactive shows you the Muslim population by country: globalreligiousfutures.org/relig…
AdrEan Hmalik • 3 years ago
ISLAM is the true religion….not the thing who create by people…..only one God Allah.
Gri Jalco • 2 years ago
Really? Who actually wrote the Quran not mohammad he was illiterate. Allah also did not recite it directly to mohammad either. It was ACTUALLY written some 20 years AFTER his death and then the originals were burnt! So PROVE it is the actually word of allah.
AdrEan Hmalik • 3 years ago
islam is the largest religion in the world…………………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mohd Aslam • 3 years ago
(subanallah) very good
sherefa hussen • 3 years ago
subhaan ALLAH this is b/c it is true religion
rajesh • 3 years ago
no this because 4 marrige 9*4 =36 children
kaif • 3 years ago
bcz it is one of the largest spreading religion in the world which is spreading at a rapid speed.
Gri Jalco • 2 years ago
Its growth is due to Muslim BIRTH rate not due to conversion.
Because a family has 10 kids does not mean they all stay Muslims. In US 75% of converts to Islam will leave it w/in 3 years.
Something startling is happening in the Muslim world — and no, I don’t mean the Arab Spring or the growth of Islamic fundamentalism. According to a leading demographer, a “sea change” is producing a sharp decline in Muslim fertility rates and a “flight from marriage” among Arab women.
Nicholas Eberstadt, a scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, documented these findings in two recent papers.
Eberstadt’s first paper was expressively titled “Fertility Decline in the Muslim World: A Veritable Sea-Change, Still Curiously Unnoticed.”
SUDHAKAR • 3 years ago
Rightly said rajesh.
ALI • 3 years ago
Mind your thinking …. coz Islam givs equal respect to women…go nd find out da number of man and women then compare…..36 children Masha Allah….
ramlall • 3 years ago
Equal respect to women!! One man’s word is equal to TWO women! One man can marry and carry FOUR wives! One man can say Talaq even in his dreams and it is considered a divorce!One man can commit adultery and get away but the woman is stoned to death!! Equality-Ugghhh!
Bfraz • 3 years ago
1.Two women equal to one man:its because woman would be accompanied by other woman, in the case where she is the only witnessed like for murder and other things, she as a sole witness of a case is accepted.
2. Woman gives birth to child so its legitimate to know who is actually the father of child that is why woman is asked not to marry more than one man at a time, well in case of man, he can marry upto 4 if he is strong enough to afford then with providing all equal rights.
3. Woman can also said talaq and she will be given if its defined in NIKKAH contract. and what a shame if man says i dunt want to live with u and still woman lives with him, Islam secures the self respect of woman.
4. Equal punishments are for both man and woman if they commit adultery.
Kindly first to and study what Islam is then comment, as it does not order to burn wife with her death husband (SATTI) instead Islam encourages woman to remarry in case of divirce of death of her husband…
I love everyone because Jesus died for me. • 3 years ago
lol. that is why there are rules against women driving and rules about women wearing what they want. lol. lol. lol.
@idk
Shahid Ansari • 3 years ago
My Dear brother Rajesh and Sudhakar…
First Thing…let me inform you that Islam is the only religion in this world which has RESTRICTED number of marriages upto 4. No any other religion has done this.
Second thing…Dear brother B4 making such a comment have u ever tried to find out number of muslims around you having done four marriages. Have u ever seen any muslims personally with four marriages.
Third thing… Dear brother.. 4 Marriages are not compulsory. It is based on the condition that if u are capable enough to take accountability (responsibility) equally without any injustice between your wives then u can do more than one marriage.
Fourth thing…Dear brother if U start counting from 1 you find 2 then 3 then 4. How come u promptly jump to 4 just after 1. Please think of it.
Fifth thing…..4*9=36…. Dear brother before such a comment please think of those couples who do get even a single child ever after 10 to fifteen years of their marriage. It is Creator of this World who decides the number of child for parents not we human. By making such comments you are hurting God As Well.
Sixth thing…. Dear brother please keep one thing in your mind every human being of this world sooner or later will leave this earth (willingly or unwillingly) and one day reach in front of God where u have to give accountability of your deeds of whole life. Do u think God will like person with hatred hidden inside his heart. Just think of it…it neither a suggestion nor a comment Dear brothers.
Seventh thing… Last but not the least… ask from your heart that how many people in this world with One Marriage are Fully Honest to their Single Wife.
Abraham • 3 years ago
The outcome of the battle for the hearts and minds of the worlds 1.6B Muslims will affect the west the most. Personally, I am ambivalent about what to do – shall I avenge? shall I make peace? Iin situations of doubt, we look to what the Iranian leadership does and says.
Imran Taiwo, Nigeria • 3 years ago
it is promise of Allah that will surely prevail all religion, and it is going to it fulfilment. MAA SAHALLAH
Penny • 3 years ago
Imrsn Taiwo, Your wrong.
khalida afghan • 3 years ago
just stop doing the bad and wrong staf if u think its false so just give me an idea and a reson so I can answer it but don’t be disrespectfull to islam mr penny and Okafor Kingsley
Okafor Kingsley • 3 years ago
Ore, Bawo. You’re very very wrong.
Alex • 3 years ago
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Dev • 3 years ago
This is false.God is not insecure to say such a thing and god doesn’t need any religion.God just sees the heart of a man and his integrity.
sani • 2 years ago
All real Muslims in the Would respect both Jesus and Muhammad (SAW). They are all Prophets of God. If According to Christians, Jesus is God Or his Son. Then answer the quations below please.
1. Do you belief in Jesus birth date (X-mas)?
2. who controls the Universe before the birth of Jesus?
3. Can God (Allah) do without Jesus?
4. Who control the universe now after Jesus?
NOTE: DON’T ALLOW SOMEONE TO THINK FOR YOU, U EQUALLY HAVE BRAIN TO THINK.
zokirjon eshov • 2 years ago
you are right
Esmatullah from Afghanistan • 3 years ago
Islam is to believe in only Allah that is one to be worshipped and Mohammad(pbuh) is the messenger and creature of Allah.
Sandy Casey Myers • 3 years ago
i am trying to understand what u just wrote, and i am so sorry, for asking but i truely would like to understand what u mean. i don’t know to many things about the muslim faith, and i have asked alot of questions to some muslim people that i know, but i got to know them through fb, they are my friends cause they have answered some questions, i post to them but, sometimes i feel like i may have hurt their feelings and didn’t mean too. but thank god, i was wrong. i am glad to find this site. but i don’t know if i will ever lean anything. its just hard to understand. please excuse me for being so stupid, lol, but it is what it is. and that is me. sandy
Vishnu • 2 years ago
If you want to detach yourself from the pleasures of this world and work for a life after this and ready to follow strict rules in life, Islam is the way.
If you want to explore everything in this world, live without rules, go for Hindu.
Somewhere in the middle? go for Christianity or some other one.
Mohammed Aasif • 3 years ago
SUBHAAN ALLAH…
ALHAMDU LILLAH…
ALLAHU AKBAR…
MOHAMMED ABDUL MUMIN • 3 years ago
IN SHA ALLAH ISLAM WOULD SPREAD AS FAR AS THE DENIZENS OF THE EARTH
ALI • 3 years ago
Ameen
khalida afghan • 3 years ago
I hope I will see a one day all the people muslim and respectfull to allah”jalijalalahu” and mohammad”pbuh”. (inshallah)
jebrila • 3 years ago
i really proud and agree wiz zis comments regarding the greatness and oneness of allah
Aslam • 3 years ago
Insha allah….
Chris • 2 years ago
Islam will never overcome the west.
ukkasha • 2 years ago
Islam Will over come
if not today then in future
it is my faith