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TroubleshootingDid I break my SSD? (self.buildapc)

Giott が 投稿

Just purchased an SSD and was attempting to install windows 10 from a CD with a new build. When I got to screen where you can format and partition disks I clicked "New" on the SSD and it seemed to freeze so after 30 minutes I rebooted the computer... Now the SSD doesn't show on that screen, nor in BIOS and when I put the SSD in my other computer it would not show up in disk management there either.

Have I completely fucked up? Can anyone help me please?

Edit: Drive is a Samsung Evo 850 (250gb)

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[–]thekrautboy 55ポイント56ポイント  (28子コメント)

Forget about Disk Management and Windows setup for a bit.

If the SSD is not recognized in the BIOS, then its impossible for software that comes afterwards to recognize it.

  • Does it show up as SATA device in the BIOS?

  • Does it show up in the BIOS of the other computer?

  • Make sure you have the SATA ports enabled, and dont set it to RAID mode by accident

  • Replace the SATA cable you are using

  • Use another power connector from the power supply

  • Use another SATA port on your mainboard

Keep trying and check in the BIOS if it shows up. If it doesnt, no need to boot into Windows or Setup. Once shows up, continue.

If it does show up in the BIOS, its possible that somehow the partition table to messed up. That can be fixed with disk part then. But if it keeps not showing up in BIOS, none of that helps.

If all that fails, you have a very rare defective Samsung SSD. Sadly there is nothing else left to do (that i can think of atleast) and you have to return it.

[–]Giott[S] 50ポイント51ポイント  (5子コメント)

Thanks a lot for the reply, it was a faulty SATA cable. Phew

[–]thekrautboy 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

Haha youre welcome! Glad you got i sovled.

Wouldve really suprised me, a actual faulty Samsung SSD.

[–]TrueDivision -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would've been the end of the world as we know it

[–]juusukun 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tried it in another PC without swapping out the Sata cable? Try to always have a spare :-), then you can swap out the Sata cable before using it in a different system

[–]terp02andrew 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

People thought moving away from PATA cables would make things easier, but bad cables will always be an issue sadly.

Loose cables can cause errors too, which is why the typical metal hatch is important too. Glad to see you solved it, but like anything else with PC building, diligence is always gonna pay off :p

[–]Magister_Ingenia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well it certainly made cable management easier.

[–]riq69 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why wouldn't you set it to RAID mode?

[–]thekrautboy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depending on the actual mainboard / RAID firmware, the device would then show up in a seperate RAID "BIOS".

Just to avoid any possible errors.

Of course he can set it to RAID if he wants to use it. But for the purpose of hunting down the error why it is not recognized...

[–]juusukun -1ポイント0ポイント  (19子コメント)

Intel actually has a lower failure rate than Samsung, or at least it did two years ago.

Also, I would not trust a drive that doesn't show up on the first nine boots but does on the 10th... Even if it does show up after a while, take it back and have it replaced.

[–]thekrautboy 2ポイント3ポイント  (18子コメント)

Intel actually has a lower failure rate than Samsung, or at least it did two years ago.

From my personal experience (i do sell components and build computers and such), i have never had a actual defective Samsung SSD. But i am far from a Samsung fan, dont like the company at all. But the quality of their SSD´s cant really be argued.

Have not seen a defective Intel either yet. But then again, we sell them quite rarely cause Intel doesnt have great distribution of their SSD's here in Germany (probably whole europe). Sure you can order them, but the price is rarely competitive.

Also, I would not trust a drive that doesn't show up on the first nine boots but does on the 10th... Even if it does show up after a while, take it back and have it replaced.

If the fault was a SATA cable, there is no need to replace the drive.

If a drive on itself acts up, regardless if SSD or HDD, then yes. Replace it.

[–]juusukun -1ポイント0ポイント  (16子コメント)

Personal experience aside, I did a Google search to see if I could find the defect rate for a Samsung ssds. I did not find it, but what I found was a 2014 review that found intel was the only manufacturer with a low fail rate that stood Out Among the others.

[–]thekrautboy 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

You will never find any actual data on defective rates. No manufacturer discloses them.

And i dont know how a single review can judge on the failure rate of all series of Intel SSD's...

[–]juusukun [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

Use your imagination, if they have the money for it, they could easily buy 10 of every single SSD and test them all. It might also be something that takes quite a long period of time since failure rates are being tested. If they are just looking to test Brands, they could test the flagship model for each brand to see the best of what each brand has to offer

The failure rates that I was looking up could have been information collected by a third party... thanks for pointing that out but it's irrelevant. The only reason I mentioned that was so that you could try searching for it yourself so that you could see the article that I am referring to. Next time I just won't bother using words and maybe I'll just comment the link and say nothing else. I don't know why I am still arguing with you... lol

[–]thekrautboy [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Use your imagination

The purpose of a proper review is that i dont have to use my imagination. I prefer actual facts.

they could easily buy 10 of every single SSD and test them all

A selection of 10 or even 20 devices does not represent at all a accurate point of view that those are reliable, or not. You can only make a more estimated guess based on such a small sample size.

If they are just looking to test Brands, they could test the flagship model for each brand to see the best of what each brand has to offer

You said that Intel has lower failure rates than Samsung. Based on what?

And even if someone would be testing only the "flagship model" of each brand and compare them, that does not in anyway mean that all SSD series of that brand are then good or worse compared to the others. Especially with such small sample sizes you mentioned above. If i buy 10 SSD of brand XY, and i run them for two weeks 24/7, and none of them fail, does that mean that this brand XY is absolutely reliable and should be recommended? I just couldve gotten lucky, or i bought them all at the same time from the same seller, with a high chance of them all being from the same production batch. Someone who buys a SSD from that brand could get a different series (of course), and a completely different production batch, sometimes even with different components used.

The only reason I mentioned that was so that you could try searching for it yourself so that you could see the article that I am referring to.

You are the one stating that Intel has lower failure rates (than anyone?). Why should i research now to either proof or disproof your statement?

Next time I just won't bother using words and maybe I'll just comment the link and say nothing else.

I dont get it... you came across some review, which stated that Intel has lower failure rates, and you argue with me about it here. But you dont want to post the link to that review? And you want me to google for it?

I don't know why I am still arguing with you... lol

Because none of your statements have any logical ground.

[–]juusukun [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Here you go

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/173887-ssd-stress-testing-finds-intel-might-be-the-only-reliable-drive-manufacturer

And if it's not clear, I'm not wasting my time reading past your second sentence.

[–]thekrautboy [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

And if it's not clear, I'm not wasting my time reading past your second sentence.

Then you better stop using reddit.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/173887-ssd-stress-testing-finds-intel-might-be-the-only-reliable-drive-manufacturer

Wow, impressive review. They test 6 different SSD, two of them being Intel. But there is not even any Samsung SSD in the lineup. So how can you say based on that, that they have a lower failure rate? It makes no sense. They are not even comparing any Intel to any Samsung.

[–]trustinbacon [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I know I'm jumping into the middle of this but here's some recent data from Pugent Systems.

Also, check out the SSD endurance test.

[–]juusukun [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Amazing! I found the god / king / king of reddit!. I will get right on stopping my use immediately. Thank you your highness

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    [–]thekrautboy [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

    Wow you're a complete moron but I will give you a reply to your first idiotic part of your comment... When I said use your imagination, I did not mean reviews are not based on fact... I mean open your mind so that you can one day have the ability to conceive of a review, study, or benchmark that is able to come to the conclusion that is required to figure out if any ne brand has a better reliability then another (or some other complex task that blows thekrautboy's mind)

    If you want to resort to insulting me, instead of giving real proof to your statements, fine.

    Just because you can't conceive things that aren't right in front of you, nor can you comprehend them, doesn't mean they are invalid.

    So you just make shit up then and believe in that? Cool.

    TL;DR you claim Intel has lower failure rates than Samsung. And right from the second post here you are giving me a shitty attitude. But you refuse to give any proof to your statements, instead you link to a 2.5 year old "review" of 6 different entry-level SSD, two of them Intel, but there is not even a Samsung in that comparison. And based on that you claim that Intel has lower failure rates?

    Holy shit.

    Edit: Typo

    [–]juusukun [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    LOL resort to insulting you? You've been doing that from the get-go to me. Just because you are passive aggressive doesn't mean you are any less insulting

    [–]LumberStack[M] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Play nice.

    [–]juusukun -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also, I would not trust a drive that doesn't show up on the first nine boots but does on the 10th... Even if it does show up after a while, take it back and have it replaced.

    If the fault was a SATA cable, there is no need to replace the drive.

    Yes. I know that. I was assuming that Op would have tried a different Sata cable before posting on Reddit, or trying the drive in another PC. Unfortunately I do not read every single word in a comment thread before putting my two cents in, sorry...