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[–]Here2HelpYou666 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Will Blacks get behind Asian Lives?

Will Blacks get behind the elderly Asians that were physically assaulted/murdered in San Francisco's Bay Views Hunter Point?

Will Blacks get behind the Asian students that were being racially harassed at South Philly High School?

Will Blacks get behind the string of robberies against elderly Asians in East Harlem, New York?

Will Blacks get behind the vilification of Chinese people after Diamond Reynolds stated the man that shot her boyfriend was Chinese and not in actuality a Mestizo Mexican (I'll post his photo in a few minutes)?

Will Blacks get behind the discrimination against Asians in higher education?

Will Blacks get behind the racist practices barring Asians from scaling the company to manger from worker bee?

Will Blacks get behind the lack of media representation of Asians in the media?

Will Blacks get behind the delivery driver that physically assaulted by a gang of youths in East Harlem when he was delivering food and attempting to do his job a (a foreign concept to the individuals that assaulted him)?

Will Blacks get behind Asians when Jeremy Lin is obviously racially targeted on the court?

Will Blacks get behind the Asian service workers working in low income areas providing food/services?

Will Blacks get behind Asians when Chris Rock was racially harassing young Asian CHILDREN?

Will Blacks get behind Asians for Danny Chen? Harry Lew? Peter Liang?

Will Blacks get behind the Asian man that was murdered in a Macy's bathroom at Stonestown Mall in San Francisco, California for his credit cards/debit cards?

Obviously Black lives matter and WHITES need to stop killing and discriminating against Blacks. But what WHITES do to BLACKS has nothing to do with if I'm going to support a community that doesn't support me. I'm not responsible for all these White on Black police shootings. I'm not White. I do not identify as White like these Asian "activists." I do not have white guilt. Asians come first and foremost.

[–]achineseman 16ポイント17ポイント  (9子コメント)

Answer me this. Why is there a constant fucking barrage of "black lives matter" related submissions to asian-centric subreddits? Hear me clearly, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO BLACK PEOPLE, IT DOES NOT CONCERN ME. Asians spend so much fucking effort scrambling over each other to show their bleeding heart self-inflicted guilt attitudes because the WHITE MEDIA tells them to. Again, I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE. AIN'T NO BLACK PERSON EVER GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ME and in fact the hilarious thing is despite the low number of blacks in Canada, I've still been managed to be called a chink by a number of them.

[–]Here2HelpYou666 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you. Finally some Asians with some kind of common sense. There are lots of Asians as it is behind Blacks Lives Matter. But are there Blacks behind the lives of Asians? No.

[–]Here2HelpYou666 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Asians are losing their minds. On the other thread some Asian is writing about "currying favor with Black people" by mentioning Blasians to Black people and how we can "come together." This is thread where a Korean American was called a "chink" by a janitor at n office building New York (he is most likely Hispanic/Black. I live in New York and they usually occupy these positions. If it was Kansas I would say White. But this ain't Kansas). The first thing though that comes to an Asian mind is to not call Blacks out on their racism towards us, but to instead think of ways on how we can "curry favorites" with the individuals that call us "chinks." First it was Whites and now its Blacks.

[–]RagingRaijin 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's mostly from a historical alliance against White America's racism, IMO. Yuri Kochiyama was right next to Malcolm X as he took his dying breath.

Nowadays, the power balance between PoC has changed. As we have just seen, "Chink" and jokes about Asians are normalized by people from all races, including Asian chans, in America. "Nigger" and jokes about Blacks have more retaliatory weight.

I'll support Black activism(give likes on FB, share stories and articles, but not gonna march in the streets) simply because of white privilege and the piss and shit they make Asians walk on, just to live in America. Hispanics had their own stuff to deal with. White America was lynching Black men for talking to White women and burning Black children in churches.

PoC don't have equal ammo to use against White racism. And they are not woke to what the other minorities went through in America.

Blacks are fighting hard power of white supremacy, Asians are fighting soft power of white supremacy.

In the meantime, I'm gonna aim to become an Authentic Asian and uplift Asians first and foremost. I'll be keeping an eye out for what Black activism does successfully to fight hard power and add it to my arsenal.

[–]Suavecake12[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

In the meantime, I'm gonna aim to become an Authentic Asian and uplift Asians first and foremost.

This I agree with

I'll be keeping an eye out for what Black activism does to fight hard power and add it to my arsenal.

This I question because from my perspective it is this fight with hard power that precipitates most of the problems for Blacks. Take a simple stop and frisk. Most Asians will be apathetic in showing the content of their bags to an officer. Go through the motions and get on with their day.

Some young Black males will not want to seem "soft" or "weak" in front of people. Will open their bags in an agitated manner, speak with tones of agitation and contempt in their voice, looking to bait the officer into escalating the situation.

Not saying there aren't time one shouldn't question authority. But I find the manner that some BLM supporters feel what's a "proper" way to interact with authority is what getting them into trouble in the first place.

[–]RagingRaijin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I edited my comment to add

I'll be keeping an eye out for what Black activism does successfully to fight hard power and add it to my arsenal.

I meant it as like a Sun Tzu type shit haha, like learn from how others fight and use what works for ourselves.

I don't know how Black people or BLM should approach their fight, it doesn't seem to be working. Especially because they can't go for the racists in higher positions.

[–]Suavecake12[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been asking that question myself recently as well. Besides using blacks as some sort of gauge of social equality in the US, I'm really not sure.

When I walk through my Asian dominated areas in real life the BLM is like not even a blip on most Asian's minds. For those of us that grew up in the black community with actual thugs and gang members, I don't see any support at all.

Even among my facebook classmates it's only one Viet guy that's very vocal about it, and a Filipino guy that seems vocal about it every now and then. Both of them seems to have more similar backgrounds with Jeff Yang in growing up in the nicer parts of town in NYC.

The saddest part for me is some of these supporters can't even write a letter to parents in their native tongue and needs the community supports. All indicators that they are very white washed and bad parenting in terms of the linguistic mastery of their mother tongue.

[–]miiihoL 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've also been called a chink plenty of times by black people in a part of the US without that many black people. And I'm Japanese.

[–]RagingRaijin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Every single stolen smartphone or attempted mugging on my family members were all by Black people. And we live in an enclave but they are all firm that Blacks are thugs.

My very good Black friend is going to medical school this year and in the future, I will have my family members treated by him lol

[–]reading_alot 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

One thing i have to say: Chris Rocks' Asians jokes at the Oscar awards..

[–]Suavecake12[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I found it strange too. I was the first of my facebook friends to make a comment about it when watching. But I guess no one was watching it among my friends, so I had to wait till the next news cycles to see Asians mobilize on the issue.

I use to be a his fan, till that happened.

[–]RagingRaijin 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

My Black friends who are also activism heavy called Rock out on it and were sharing articles criticizing him, leaving comments about "problematic jokes". I dunno how many people tweeted at Rock tho.

Real recognize real and racist bs like that will never get a pass.

[–]Suavecake12[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

But that message never made it through. That's the problem in the Black community, they had no vested interest in throwing Chris Rock under the bus.

They needed someone of Chris Rock's status to call him out in the Black community. Otherwise it's just white noise in the background (no pun intended).

[–]RagingRaijin 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hypocrites lol. And some don't even ask for help, they expect Asians to support them.

[–]miiihoL 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This. When it comes to Asians, blacks are just as racist as whites are. Which is precisely why I don't care what happens to any of them.

[–]Here2HelpYou666 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. Thank you. More Asians with common sense. I'm happy to see this. The two of them have long histories together that has nothing to do with us.

[–]cartoonfan3 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

My friend you have discovered what I like to call "cuck-Asians."

Even in "political activism" Asian people want to fit in the mainstream and internalize libtard thinking. That's why you see a lot of them championing sjw and blacks lives matter bullshit on social media. Just an observation but quite a bit of them are Asian women :)

Even though what they're doing doesn't benefit their own people. Why would a group support a people who see themselves as inferior? If it isn't supporting white causes they support black causes. The Asian American group is going in a circle. You're better off looking out for yourself.

It could be we need a guy like Duterte from the Philippines to purge all these cock suckers out our group.

[–]Suavecake12[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, but those poor "cock suckers" are still our "cock suckers."

So we have too look out for them as well. Sad part of identity politics. Got to take the good with the bad.

But I do think they need to called out about their "unintended consequences" of their actions. Like throwing a good number of Asians under the bus publicly for an issue that is not a major issue for Asians.

[–]miiihoL 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why? Traitors who sell out their own people don't deserve to be "looked out for."

[–]RagingRaijin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They need to be made an example of what NOT to do as not just an Asian, but a human being.

To sellout another person, even when that person is closest they can be to you, without being blood relatives, and sharing the same bullshit you and your children will face in this world, is a disgusting act.

Chans, Lus, and racists like that cunt in the Neenja video and that disability center in NY should be forever on Asians' shitlist.

Make a website called racistassholes.com and put all their info and documented screenshots of their hatred against non-whites.

If Whites wanna post on that site with their own experiences, it better be documented and backed up with proper scholarly research.

Real recognize real and bullshit racism is gonna get torn up. Just you wait for poorer countries' users to get complete access to the Internet and language translation software to obliterate language barriers. White society's criminals, and the world's, both present and historic, are about to be brought to justice.

http://www.cfr.org/internet-policy/un-report-internet-freedom-human-right/p25265

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Elon_Musk_Wants_to_Launch_4000_Satellites_to_Provide_Global_Internet_999.html

It is a good time to be alive.

[–]genghis_ju4n 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

When you're an Asian-American, it's apparently your obligation to not give a crap about your own people and instead stand up for issues that don't concern you.

I don't hate black people at all, I haven't known many but the ones I have known were great people. I just wish Asians would start trying to make Asian-American lives better instead of appeasing to BLM. BLM is a really sketchy organization anyway.

[–]miiihoL 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yup, which is why we should leave. Why pay taxes to these assholes who only look down on us? Let's return to our own countries and serve our own people.

[–]genghis_ju4n 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

We shouldn't leave, it's not like we're truly welcome in Asia either (people find out you're American and they either give you special treatment or treat you like shit). "Going back to our own countries" is exactly what us Asians (the "passive" minorities) are expected to do. Don't let your guard down, this is your country too, whether white or black people like it or not. Fight for your place in it and piss off as many detractors as you can. Don't end up like the first wave of Asian-Americans in the late 19th century and retreat back to Asia when things get too hard. We'll always be invisible if we never take action and just decide that "going back" to Asia is easier.

We already have a giant enclave in the middle of the Pacific Ocean for Asians/Pacific Islanders/Hapas, and we're high ranking in pretty much anything related to education or finance. We have too much potential to just drop it all and say, "fuck it, I'm going back to Asia."

[–]Here2HelpYou666 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some Asians wannabe around nothing but Asians. Nothing wrong with that either. Crime rates are much lower as well. No need to worry about getting raped late at night on your way home, murdered, kidnapped, or racially assaulted. Much better food as well. I see your point as well. I agree with both sides.

[–]miiihoL 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

But I don't want a place in this country. I want to expel the barbarians from Japan. I want a nuclear-enforced Sakoku. If I could play a part in making this a reality, I could die happy. I might take a few hits from my own people for not being born in Japan despite being ethnically full Japanese, but I think it is well worth it if it serves that goal. I don't expect it to be easy but expelling the barbarians from Japan and Asia at large where whites and blacks are a tiny percentage of the population is far more practical than fighting for an equal place here where the deck is stacked against us. Is that retreating? Perhaps, but one cannot advance while the enemy is to their rear.

[–]RagingRaijin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But homie, the population should be growing with GDP or something economic related like that. Same thing with European countries and they have immigrants to make up for that.

Basically, Japan needs to either start re-producing more or making basic quality of life future-tier. I'm talking robot doctors, robot caretakers for the aging population, and guaranteed basic income.

Imagine if Asia got its shit together like that, and made 99% of the population middle class with a high quality of life. Automated transportation systems, green energy in every single city.

Then, the creative minds can flourish, not having to worry so much about making ends meet when its meeting every month on the regular. The best minds create the best art or best science and Asia keeps improving.

I hope the 2020 Tokyo Olympics kick start another tech boom and Asia takes over the cutting edge technology. China and the US can go at it with robotics and automation, outdo each other with big ass automated factories and supercomputers. Japan and South Korea team up and solve immortality.

Fat, racists in America die of diabetes because they can't even get fast Internet right, how are they gonna fix their healthcare system?

[–]RagingRaijin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Naw, I'm returning to Asia to get some REINFORCEMENTS

The attack doesn't end there. Attacks on the film and media front, online cooperation between English speaking AsAm and Asians in Asia so we keep spreading all of this information. Make that pedophile White sexpat English teacher get arrested.

Like Genghis Khan preached, learn the best techniques and what works, what doesn't from America and bring up our countries. Develop open trade between Asian countries again.

The Asian Americans in America need to get together and go for political positions and lobby for fixing shit like that racist disability center in NY. Make that illegal and fineable.

There is a lot of work that needs to be done. No one is saying "fuck it". ASIAN PRIDE

[–]SquatsandRice 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I understand the reasons behind the blm movement, and agree with the founding reasons. Black people get treated like shit by police. But the the way they are going about it is fucking retarded, they expect the world to change for them while they themselves just sit back and change nothing about their own culture that helped them get here in the first place. Just by their attitude the first thing I want to say is "Fuck You" instead of "I want to help"

[–]Suavecake12[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

they expect the world to change for them while they themselves just sit back and change nothing about their own culture that helped them get here in the first place.

This is what I see too as well. There's barely any questioning of "Crime in Black communities?" Even if you factor out unfair policing due to race. Like Black cops policing poor black communities. It's still seems pretty high. But it's taboo to even talk about something like this in polite company.

[–]Roving_redditor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is unfortunate that mainstream discourse on most any issue in the U.S. is always dumbed-down to a simple duality lacking any room for nuance (black/white, left/right, etc.). It's a sure sign of controlled opposition management to protect the system from any real change. Police brutality, for example, is indeed a very real problem in the growing militarized police state that is the U.S. A cop can kill civilians, or shoot their dogs/cats on a whim, with no accountability (yet Americans comfort themselves to sleep with how North Korea is supposedly worse, when the only major difference at this point is level of wealth, rusty cage versus silver-lined cage).

Now enter a community of people whose behavior actively antagonize already-trigger happy uniformed thugs, and boom, you get BLM. Not necessarily saying the movement did not come about organically, but the end result is that it is now another useful tool of controlled opposition. So now, in order to participate in the mainstream discourse, to oppose police brutality you have to support BLM (rendering Asian or non-black victims irrelevant), or to not give a fuck about BLM you are branded as pro-police brutality (and being racist in addition). There's simply no room for people who do not benefit (or are severely compromised) from supporting BLM but are also against police brutality. This is the intended obliteration of any nuance into a dumbed-down duality, so that at the end of it all, people get to expend their energy, perhaps bash some heads cathartically, but the system remain unchanged. With time, BLM will fade out like a fad, and police brutality will continue.

[–]siberiandragon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand the reasons behind the blm movement, and agree with the founding reasons. Black people get treated like shit by police.

BLM is a criminal organization that just wants to be allowed to commit crimes with impunity. Cops are harder on blacks because the vast majority of cop killers are black. Black criminals have killed many Asian cops. I had the privilege of knowing the fine upstanding Officer Sonny Kim who was also a great martial arts instructor. He was murdered by a cowardly criminal who happened to be a BLM supporter that hated cops.

[–]IndoAmericanKiller 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're trying to virtue-signal to other leftists.

They are cucks, quite literally. They debase themselves and abnegate their own goals to try to appeal to White liberals, but the Whites just keep ignoring them lol.


I'm always sort of amused at that, but it gets annoying when their virtue-signaling starts disrupting us. For example, let's say we're talking about Asian masculinity and dating strategies, and then some PAA starts relating it to Charleston and BLM (I'm not kidding). And then I'm like "da fuck man. There's a thousand places to talk about Black issues. I'm here because I want to talk about Asian issues for once."

[–]Suavecake12[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I see what you mean from that article. The author see all minority struggle through the Black experience lens. In that regard I feel Asians have a long way to go, because not only is the vocabulary and language for describing the issue lacking.

The whole paradigm of how to frame the issue so that mainstream American doesn't find it irrelevant, without co-opting the Black experience, is non-existent as well.

[–]Suiko_no_shin 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

see the video I posted in the FFA thread. The only life that matters to them is theirs. Since that's what they think, leave them and their struggle to themselves. Asian community doesn't owe anybody anything.

[–]Suavecake12[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

FFA thread? not familiar with that.

[–]Suiko_no_shin 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Weekly Free for All posted right at the top?

[–]Suavecake12[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

The video shows to me why Asian don't need to get involved. Blacks and White have such deep seeded historical problems, that even the most level headed pragmatic Asian who was a master of philosophy and martial arts couldn't keep them from going at each other.

[–]Here2HelpYou666 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. Whites can start by paying African Americans reparations for slavery. If I was African American I would want reparations. African American last names are not even their last names, they are the last names of their families slave owner. This has nothing to do with us though. Whites need to come clean with their part in racism, discrimination, marginalization, and colonization against Blacks and all non-White people

[–]linsanitytothemax 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

i really have no idea why some Asian Americans want us to get behind BLM? why? i mean if we don't then we promote "anti-blackness"? are you kidding me? why can't we just stand up for ourselves? we need to protect ourselves first and foremost. so many times we care about other minorities than us. how does that make any sense? other groups look out for themselves first. and yet some of our Asian American brethrens care more about other people than ourselves. it is stupid. why? because nobody else cares about us. it would be a different matter if blacks stood up with us on different issues but they don't. they care about themselves. there are a certain segment of blacks who are incredibly negative towards Asians..calling us racists and how we steal money from black people by opening businesses in black neighborhoods and shit like that. also people have to realize racism against us is very different than against blacks. racism against Asians in many times very insidious and sneaky rather than most of the outright out in the open type of racism against blacks.

how can we support something when many AA's cannot even relate to this? most of us experience racism in very different ways. i have no problem with BLM i think it is something that can make a difference and i will be silently rooting for them. but that doesn't mean i have to march down the streets all day, lay on the ground in solidarity. no fucking way i will be doing that unless it is for a much greater cause for all PoCs.

[–]Roving_redditor 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

To me its seems our diverging point of view comes from the fact he never lived and interacted with poor urban Blacks.

I don't think that's enough of an excuse for people with his mentality. Many of us bougie Asians don't have that type of experience, but it should still be common sense to realize that being the subservient helper to other groups while always putting our own needs last is going to lead to ruin, if not already in many ways.

The underlying problem is that overall, Asians have less empathy for each other than they have for other ethnic groups. In fact, many of us despise ourselves, whether consciously or subconsciously. The rift and apparent lack of communication between middle-class and lower-class Asians has a lot to do with this rather than just a simple class divide.

[–]Here2HelpYou666 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm gonna start using "bougie Asians." I like the sound of that term.

[–]Roving_redditor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol, I use that term derisively most of the time, to denote people who are pampered, lost touch with reality, and internalized white-liberalism. I have to credit Al on the /r/AsianMasculinity podcasts for when I heard the term used in that way. I'm part of that middle-class background, and it's frustrating to see my views being a minority within a minority, on things that should be plainly clear from just observation.

[–]be_selfish_1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

nah

and the ones that will waste are just wasting their time