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[–]sicklyslickhttp://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/sicklyslick/saved/#view=z4PNnQ 361ポイント362ポイント  (17子コメント)

It's like the good old Linux trick.

Ask on forums on how to do something in Linux, nobody responds to you and even make fun of you.

Complain in forums about how Linux is too difficult and windows does things better, there'll be 100+ posts explaining in great detail on how to do something on Linux.

[–]MWO_Iron_CurtainGTX 780 x2 in SLI, i5 4670K @ 4.5 82ポイント83ポイント  (13子コメント)

Used a similar trick in WoW back in the day to get questions answered in trade chat. Ask a question, answer it incorrectly, and people would be inviting you to groups to correct you.

[–]Arik_De_FrasiaGTX 980ti | i7 4790k | 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaw X 57ポイント58ポイント  (7子コメント)

I believe that's an actual law. By stating something incorrectly, you'll 3x more likely to get a response on how to do it correctly than if you were to simply ask how to do it correctly.

[–]callan752i7 5820k | AMD 7990 (WC'd Nuke Reactor) 50ポイント51ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]just_add_pornAMD FX 4300 | EVGA 750 TI SC 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like how xkcd is directly referenced in the article

[–]jaijasty2i7-4720HQ|GTX 980M|32GB RAM|256GB+1TB SSD|1TB HDD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk what you were expecting when it's metawiki. lol, i don't see why more people don't use it instead.

[–]afewtrix 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is this Cunningham's law. Man I've been doin this shit before I ever heard about him!!

[–]Arik_De_FrasiaGTX 980ti | i7 4790k | 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaw X 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you

[–]Hanschrii5 4670, GTX 970 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think that is the Johnson law.

[–]kb_lock 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

A valiant effort at proving the law

[–]Xenoprimate 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you want to see real anger, go to a linux IRC channel and say "Hey guys, I'm really interested in Linux on the desktop because I want an alternative to Windows; how many years do you think it will be until it's caught up with XP?"

[–]Honda_TypeR 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Toxic communities online always share the same core issues.

Overly defensive (from low self esteem), self centered (from acting superior all the time as a by product to cope & bolster their low self esteem) and uncharitable with their time & patience for newcomers and people they see as unintelligent (going back to acting superior, again root cause of low self esteem).

Sadly these characteristics are far too common in the tech world. Not everyone is lacking self confidence and those with the most can sometimes go the furthest.

However online anonymity gives people who are socially damaged a cloister of like minded, sheltered, angry people who take out their frustrations on each other and any random who stumbles into their coven.

Their common method of dealing with people on the Internet is the only way they know how...to push people away even further away. Ultimately their goal is to not expose their greatness weakness to others (their lack of self esteem). Their lack of self esteem makes them socially awkward which immediately gives others the upper hand in their mind. They avoid being exposed, or rather reminded of their self esteem issues, by acting rude to everyone but a select chosen few.

I have been playing games and doing coding and been in so many online communities over the last 20 years.. Toxic communities always boil down to the same drama. It's all kids who used to be picked on, but never learned to grow up and cope with adversity. They stayed damaged goods forever and as adults perpetuate what happened to them on others, sometimes without realizing it and sometimes knowing about it and relishing in it as some sort of cosmic balance.

What I learned early on is when I spot a toxic community in something I really want to be part of I look for alternative communities and if everyone shares that mindset of negativity, sometimes I just move on. It's sad when people grow old but never can learn life coping and life thriving skills. People who shelter themselves never have a reason to grow or challenge themselves in these ways.

[–]NotZeroi7 3930k @ 4.5 Ghz|EVGA GTX 980 SCx2|32GB RAM 52ポイント53ポイント  (27子コメント)

JayzTwoCents's 5 year old daughter (at the time) knows more about assembling a computer than someone that writes for Vice.

[–]catOS57 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Funny because if a you saved up twenty five cents a day til your daughter became 5, you could build her a SUPER cheap gaming rig. Only $400 dollars...

This includes the monitor, keyboard, and mouse too. No MIR either.

When motherboard said PC building was expensive, its laughable. G3258+GTX 950 run MANY modern AAA games at 50-60 FPS, 1080p, medium settings.


edit: math behind it: 5*365= 1825 days. 1825 x .25 cents a day= $456.25 saved up after 5 years

[–]continoushttp://steamcommunity.com/id/GayFagSag/ 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah but inflation fucks that plan.

[–]jumbotronshrimp 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Would it? I am not learned on this subject, but computing power improves at a much higher rate than inflation. $400 gets you substantially greater tech today than it did 5 years ago.

[–]continoushttp://steamcommunity.com/id/GayFagSag/ -5ポイント-4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you think that program demand doesn't scale as well? Many applications would be quite demanding on five year old hardware too. Five years ago, the 600 series was launching from NVidia, and the Sandy Bridge line was a year old, but Haswell hadn't launched yet.

The 690, a dual GPU card, would likely get it's ass handed to it by the 1080.

[–]bloozntooz 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wouldn't programs and games also become more optimized to run at lower/more efficient settings?

My guest computer uses an FX-8150, R9 270x, 8gb ram, gigabyte GA-990FXA mobo. All of that is 5 years old minus the video card, its 3 years old. I got it all used for under $250 and can do 60fps 1080p on most of my games.

Why buy a 690 when you can get a new 750 or 280x for like $75 or probably cheaper if you buy it used

[–]continoushttp://steamcommunity.com/id/GayFagSag/ -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wouldn't programs and games also become more optimized to run at lower/more efficient settings?

You'd think that, but it's not really true. While specific instructions may become more and more optimized, the work demanded by the hardware increases. While 5 years ago a game would need only rough direct lighting and perhaps some ambient occlusion, nowadays we're seeing people demand some level of shadows, ambient occlusion, and even real-time global illumination. It's not a matter of things not being optimized, or anything like that, but rather will people's needs stay the same.

Modern sites would likely run rather slowly on some much older hardware. Things we can browse with ease on devices we hold within out pockets.

[–]LegendBeginsR9 390/i5-4590 | HTC Vive 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

$456.50 or &456.75 when you factor in leap years.

[–]imgurtranscriber 36ポイント37ポイント  (10子コメント)

Here is what the linked meme says in case it is blocked at your school/work or is unavailable for any reason:

Good guy Motherboard Vice

Post Title: Good Guy Motherboard/Vice

Top: TELLS EVERYONE BUILDING PCS IS HARD AND EXPENSIVE

Bottom: MOTIVATES HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO MAKE ARTICLES/VIDEOS ON HOW EASY IT IS

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[–]-XCVIILenovo Ideapad Z40-70 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

This bot is one of the best ones alongside the TL;DR bot.

[–]3aglSloth Masterrace | U PC, Bro? | http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r7NKFT 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

[–]xkcd_transcriber 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

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Title: Constructive

Title-text: And what about all the people who won't be able to join the community because they're terrible at making helpful and constructive co-- ... oh.

Comic Explanation

Stats: This comic has been referenced 237 times, representing 0.2007% of referenced xkcds.


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[–]mista_awesomeness6700k, 980 ti G1 gaming 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

These are the bots taking our codes haha

[–]CndConnection 33ポイント34ポイント  (8子コメント)

The same day that a "geeky" (more like that post 2000 geeky none of that 80s geek with actual brains) 20 something extremely pompous asshole makes his article about PCs being too hard to build...

...a middle-aged celebrity with a family, demanding schedule, and fans/papparazi to deal with manages to buy all the parts and will begin building his PC and is likely already done. Oh and he had time to post a video on FB and inspire even more people to do so.

So the lesson learned is : PC master race, and Terry Crews fuckin rocks.

EDIT Just writing this post and spelling the name Terry Crews has me wanting to jump out of my chair and flex my muscles screaming "POWERRRRRRRR!"

[–]1098886 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

What I like most about Crews is the humbleness he shows and willingness to learn. The self awareness is clearly there, can't say the same about the Vice dude who just screams victim complex.

[–]Le_Canadien25Specs/Imgur Here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Terry Crews, man. Love that dude. I hope to eat yogurt with him one day.

[–]Warp__4690k @ 4.2Ghz, GTX 970, 2x SSDs, 16GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's Jeremy Clarkson that yells POWERRRRRR, but point taken.

[–]balzotheclownSpecs/Imgur here 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Have you not seen like, any old Spice commercial?

[–]Warp__4690k @ 4.2Ghz, GTX 970, 2x SSDs, 16GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Being from the UK, no?

edit: Have you not seen like, any Top Gear?

[–]balzotheclownSpecs/Imgur here 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have, but given that were talking about Terry Crews in this thread, it's only logical that Terry Crews also yells 'POWERRRRRRRR'

[–]Warp__4690k @ 4.2Ghz, GTX 970, 2x SSDs, 16GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Like them both anyway :)

[–]CndConnection 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But Terry inspires me to scream power. I feel he would be down with the power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N613a2BsI8w

[–]Herculefreezystari5 4690k | R9 290 | 16gb ram 33ポイント34ポイント  (6子コメント)

This guy actually fucking said the manual for his motherboard didn't tell him where to plug anything in at. Apparently literacy isn't needed to become a "journalist" anymore.

[–]GaberhamTostitoi5-4690 - r9 290x - 16GB WAM 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

And their website is called motherboard.. The dude should be fucking embarrassed.

[–]twald0i5 6600k/ MSI GTX 980ti/ NZXT H630 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

To be fair, for a new user, the manuals can be a little confusing. That being said, that doesn't forgive the paid tech journalist for not understanding ANYTHING about the market he writes about on a regular basis.

[–]Pyroarcher99i7 3770/HD 4870/16 GB DDR3 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Here is the manual for the motherboard he got, I'll admit there's a lot of info there, but its relatively easy to follow and the step by step guide is simple and good enough for his needs, he just can't read

[–]continoushttp://steamcommunity.com/id/GayFagSag/ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, they have indexes.

[–]twald0i5 6600k/ MSI GTX 980ti/ NZXT H630 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

haha i mean yeah sure I get it. I was just saying that I can understand how a complete noob could find this stuff difficult. I know I did at first. But it's really no excuse when your primary trade is to write articles about tech.

[–]Metroidam11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think those bullet points listed on the top of the article gave me cancer...

[–]Jacob_exei5 3570k GTX 970 16gb Ram 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

What do they gain by straight up lying? Honestly, how does Motherboard benefit from pure ignorance?

[–]Lurker_Since_ForeverMay the -f be with you. 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Click bait article, got a hell of a lot of clicks from angry members of the master race.

This is why I'm of the opinion that reddit should automatically create Internet archive pages whenever someone links to a news article. They shouldn't be able to make money off of their stupidity.

[–]amidoes2500k 4.6Ghz/560Ti 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do clicks matter when you have adblock?

[–]evn0i5 4670k, GTX970 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, of course. Page views, time spend viewing, and clickthrus to related pages on the site are all metrics the site can use to bolster themselves to advertisers.

[–]potplanty 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually they didn't since pretty much every link was a link to archive.is meaning they got no ad revenue from it. Which makes me even happier.

[–]TheWacrai7-6700k | MSI GTX 1070 | 32GB DDR4 3400Mhz | ASUS Z170 Gaming 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

Can anyone give me links to the articles ?

[–]CiridianSpecs/Imgur here 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

be warned, it will make you angry.

[–]grant1704i5-4690K, R9 390, 16GB RAM | Windows | /id/grant0417 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

motherboard.vice.com/read/pc-gaming-is-still-way-too-hard

Use the archive.is link below.

[–]kornel191http://steamcommunity.com/id/sonicexe/ 37ポイント38ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]rabidjellybean 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh my god. Complains that you have to have a lot of money then spends $100 extra so he can buy it all from Amazon. Then he buys a 1TB SSD. Wow.

[–]WyzeThawtFormer peasant whom was shown the Light 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't forget that he recommends Apple products to less tech savy people. Add in another $500-$1000 over a good gaming build budget to instead by a Mac when we are talking about PC GAMING...

It's just pitiful from start to finish.

[–]kukirici5-4690, 8GB RAM, GTX 970 - CM Elite 130 mITX 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about the $200 "ugly" case? And the completely unnecessary $150 dual-fan AIO cooler, which he couldn't even read the manual to install properly?

With that kind of glorious setup, you'd think he's actually a brother in hiding, and that he set the article up for the exact reason outlined in OP's image.

[–]sblectrici7 4790k | 290 + 290X OC XFire | Custom loop | 24GB RAM 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

they don't deserve the traffic, bro

[–]grant1704i5-4690K, R9 390, 16GB RAM | Windows | /id/grant0417 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, Didn't think about that.

[–]g_squidman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about links to the videos about how easy and cheap it is? I have a friend...

[–]SeiferLeonheartFX-8350|R9 390x|Sabertooth 990FX R2|AX 1200i|8GB Ram|HAF 912+ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love how this gloriously backfired. Still, I'm still waiting for a PR response at least at this point. That's a painful read.

[–]dog_flavored 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Vice has gone to shit :/

[–]Xenoprimate 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

There was a time it wasn't shit?

[–]Le_Canadien25Specs/Imgur Here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? I feel this is an unpopular view, but it's just a highly sensationalist media outlet that uses topics its audience is interested in as clickbait. There's not usually a lot of substance to their stuff.

[–]Karmaislame 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I played PC games in the mid 90's when we had a computer before most of my friends. Played a few games but the console was where it's at. I just turned 27, built my first PC earlier this year and I am pretty happy. Way easier than I thought. It is still more difficult than buying a console but it was much easier than I anticipated.

[–]Phearlosophy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is still more difficult than buying a console

Really can't argue with you there.

[–]FREEvelocityx 2ポイント3ポイント  (27子コメント)

I built my first pc about a month ago after switching from Xbox(Gross I know) and it wasn't so bad. Pretty much every tutorial I needed was on YouTube. The only thing I screwed up on was using a hdmi cable on my 970. Never knew it only supported 60hz lol. My buddy still calls me a peasant after I pulled that one. FeelsBadMan

[–]Yaj8552Clevo: Eurocom Racer 2|i7-3940XM|GTX 680M(4GB VRAM)|Triple Boot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah you're never a peasant if you're open to learning. We all make mistakes and most of us were console gamers at some point in our life :)

You should hear about the brother who plugged his monitor into his motherboard instead of his high end graphics card for years! Happens to the best of us!

[–]Brightinly_i5-4690k/GTX970/PNY480GbSSD -1ポイント0ポイント  (25子コメント)

Don't worry too much about it.

Unless you can afford a higher end monitor every extra frame past 60 is just to make you feel good about the fps counter.

[–]PreparetobePlaned 2ポイント3ポイント  (23子コメント)

Nah, going higher than 60 still makes it feel smoother.

[–]deynataggerung 1ポイント2ポイント  (22子コメント)

What he means is that most monitors only display at 60Hz which is 60 frames per second. So unless you buy a really expensive monitor which has 144Hz display any fps over 60 is actually useless. Just like the cable only transferring at 60Hz, same issue. This is actually a lot of the issue with people comparing 60 fps to 60+ fps.

[–]PreparetobePlaned 2ポイント3ポイント  (20子コメント)

No, I get that. What I'm saying is that running higher than 60fps at 60hz is still beneficial. For one thing you are getting more up to date frames, and you will be able to survive dips in fps. If your average is 60 that means it's dipping below that often.

[–]shitpersonality 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

The frames dont display fully and you get tearing

[–]PreparetobePlaned 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Have yet to experience any tearing. Playing shooters at 120fps compared to 60fps is a huge difference in smoothness for me.

[–]shitpersonality 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Can you use a camera, recording video at 120fps, to record your monitor during a gaming session and share the video?

[–]PreparetobePlaned 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alas my phone can only record at 60 fps in 1080p or 30fps in 4k.

Maybe I'm just crazy but it's a noticeable difference for me. I'm going to test it out tonight and compare 60fps locked without vsync to uncapped fps averaging over 120.

[–]samuelspark -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Whenever you play a competitive shooter like CS: GO, any player will swear that the higher FPS is better to play with. 60 FPS vs 180 FPS, there is a world of difference. When turning and aiming, it's smoother and easier.

[–]Omneus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

CS GO is an isolated case wherein the game engine somehow benefits from higher fps even though you can't see the greater fps. look it up.

[–]Phearlosophy 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah but then you turn on v sync and it syncs the refresh rate to your monitor and.... oh.. and.. yeah....

nevermind

[–]potplanty -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's not what Vsync does. You're thinking of Async.

[–]Phearlosophy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Really? The top hit on google is Tom's Hardware with the answer:

Vsync basically synchronizes your frames per second with your monitor refresh rate

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/358383-33-what-vsync-gaming

[–]potplanty 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right. Long night at work and my brain decided to shit itself. midway through your sentence. What I meant was it doesn't sync it just like that. In the case that the FPS drops below your monitors refresh rate it will sync your FPS to half (or something something else) of your monitors refresh rate.

I was thinking of a blend of Async and Vsync when I wrote it all up. Time for bed I think.

[–]continoushttp://steamcommunity.com/id/GayFagSag/ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh no...it's retarded.

[–]galient5PC Master Race 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

As the other guy said, those up to date frames are displayed at the same time as older frames, and you get screen tearing. The display basically shows you multiple frames on some updates. You are right about the dips, though. But if your PC is capable of running at much higher fps than 60, while your monitor isn't, then it's good to soft limit your fps to 60, so that you don't get tearing and you won't get dips below 60 because your PC is more than capable of staying at 60. This is basically what vsync is.

[–]PreparetobePlaned 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

V-sync causes input lag though,and you end up with stale frames too.

http://i.imgur.com/DX7e4VC.png

[–]galient5PC Master Race 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

That is correct. But as it says, you'd experience a lot of screen tearing. Vsync and a limit are basically the same in terms of removing tearing, but an artificial limit isn't going to make the card wait to send frames based on the buffer. If you limit the frame rate to your monitor's refresh rate, you won't get the tearing, and you'll get frames as soon as they're available.

[–]PreparetobePlaned 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

The thing is though I'm not experiencing any noticeable tearing, so I seen no reason to use v sync or frame limiting.

[–]galient5PC Master Race 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's absolutely fair, but you aren't actually getting more up to date frames or smoother gameplay from having a higher frame rate than your monitor can handle, which is the claim you were making above.

[–]HandsomeHodgeGTX 980, i7-6700k, 16gb 3000mhz DDR4, 128gb/500gb SSDs, 1tb HDD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

any fps over 60 is actually useless

Nah, higher framerates still reduce input delay. Thats why I play OW at 1080p all low, on my 144hz monitor, despite getting way more than 144 fps, and having a nice 2k/60 monitor sitting idle right next to it.

[–]standardprocdure[Rev]Deadbaby 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm an IT professional by trade so I get the notion that it's harder for people who aren't all that literate in the first place but... maybe if that describes you, you shouldn't be working at a place called "motherboard". That said, there are literally THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of resources available to make selecting the parts and building a gaming PC painless and easy.

[–]potplanty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to mention he could have spent the extra hundred he paid to get it all from Amazon on paying a shop to put it together for him.

[–]sunf1re 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

really hope they reevaluate this dudes position at motherboard and nix this fuck lol

[–]FooQuuxmanSpecs/Imgur here 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

HAHAHAHAhHha.....ahha....Hhahahahah....hehe...he......

He will probably get a promotion.

[–]saytr101i5 3550 4.0GHz|Radeon HD 7870 Myst Edition|16GB DDR3 1333MHz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's with the wussy articles lately? First the pansy editor that compares an AR-15 to a bazooka and now this? What's with the surge of betas lately?

[–]comegetinthevan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

: / Except there were already thousands of videos on it... So now theres is just a few more.

[–]Trainguyromi7 4790k - 32GB RAM - Dual 4GB 970s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You say that like its a bad thing...

[–]SirCakez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was reverse psychology obviously, just look at the website name

[–]triszroy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The guy who wrote the article is regretting his decision. I guess he never considered how it was going to be received.

[–]flimflam2020 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The dude that wrote the article uses a Mac book. I don't think he had any interest in even learning anything.

[–]anteedumhttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198026987318/ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like this is exactly what they wanted.