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Protesters Block I35w In Minneapolis (startribune.com)

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[–]balrogath 33ポイント34ポイント  (97子コメント)

It's 99% white people

[–]mpls_poho_dude 69ポイント70ポイント  (55子コメント)

Honestly, at a certain level I have no problem with that statistic if it's true:

African-American people protesting: Hey, white people, stop killing us at traffic stops.

White people protesting: Hey, other white people with power to change things, stop killing black people at traffic stops.

Seems to me like both are worthwhile things to say.

[–]chucknorris10101 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (47子コメント)

youre not wrong, but its the way they are saying it that people have issue with. protest outside police departments or the governors mansion not on freeways

[–]DaemonXINE Metro 51ポイント52ポイント  (22子コメント)

"Protest in ways that don't make me have to think about it"

[–]dankmernes 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

TL;DR: ITT exactly that

[–]Tofon 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm sick of hearing this. Just because it's an attention grabbing way to protest doesn't mean it's okay, justifiable, or legal. Just because people don't want to have I35 blocked off doesn't mean they don't support BLM. It doesn't mean we don't think about it, don't care about it, or ignore the problem. It doesn't mean we don't want to enact or try to enact meaningful change in our society. It doesn't mean we want to force protestors to the margins where their voices can't be heard.

All it means is that we have better things to do than waste our time with chanting and holding signs on a highway, or to sit in traffic behind people blocking traffic.

I hope they are arrested and charged.

[–]Faps2Down_Votes 10ポイント11ポイント  (11子コメント)

Sitting in traffic makes me think about how I'm gonna be late for work, not what they are protesting. It actually alienates me from their cause.

[–]mordecai612 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

If they don't disrupt something it won't get covered by the press. I see both sides on this.

[–]Xzillerationer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You can disrupt things that get covered without dangerously blocking an intersection.

[–]Jucoy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

But causing blocks on the freeway can put both the protesters and commuters at risk. It's one thing to be a wrench in the system and another entirely to put other people at risk.

[–]mordecai612 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess I agree. They could march down any busy street or right through downtown but freeways probably should be off limits.

[–]SPna15 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

They should try better to placate you, guy who wasn't going to agree with them anyways.

[–]telios87 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Polarization rhetoric is not helpful to anyone.

[–]Tuilere 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

That your worst concern is "late for work" not "being pulled over for being black" is a privilege.

[–]Faps2Down_Votes -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh privilege. The pseudo intellectuals way of shaming based on something the individual has no control over. Lazy mans argument.

[–]Tuilere 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

In fact, you don't have control over having it.

You do have control over what you do with it.

[–]tovarish22 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, it sounds like he was trying to use it to go to work and be a productive member of society, but some jackasses on the freeway were preventing that.

[–]AwesomesaucePhD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can have a totally valid point but if you act like a jackass no one will care because you are being a jackass.

[–]Mrtrollham 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you think people come to good or bad conclusions about a protest if they are held by them for hours?

[–]michaelmacmanusFLAIR 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think these type of actions are meant to win hearts and minds. The goal is disruption and attention, which was accomplished.

For better or worse, legitimizing your movement as an actual threat to commerce calls attention from those in power.

[–]Mrtrollham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think that any business, looses enough or associates a few less people in a hour or two to the protest, because it's such deluded effect. I.E it's like a car accident, slows down progress. It's probably more effective to demonstrate and distrub so that those in power can actually see the effects.

[–]Merakel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or how about protest in ways that don't hurt everyone. These protests have the ability to seriously hurt people's livelihoods, and honestly, it's more likely to impact minorities than white people. I'm a white dude, I wasn't sitting on 35w, but even if I was and I was 2 hours late to work today, my boss wouldn't have cared at all.

Someone who works hourly, or has a work culture that doesn't allow for this flexibility could seriously be screwed over by this. What if you are struggling to put food on the table for your family, and suddenly you lose 2 hours of work because of this stunt?

[–]mpls_poho_dude 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The parent post had a problem with who was protesting, or more specifically, was attempting to invalidate the protesters' message by implying that they weren't allowed to speak.

There are other threads where the method of protesting is being discussed/debated, and I think those are interesting, too, but I think it's important to address those issues separately.

[edit: finished thought, grammar]

[–]dankmernes 3ポイント4ポイント  (16子コメント)

1st amendment rights are only good if they protect unpopular speech too

[–]Faps2Down_Votes 11ポイント12ポイント  (14子コメント)

Shutting down an interstate isn't protected under the first amendment as it is unlawful for pedestrians to be on the interstate.

[–]dankmernes -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Then they'll be arrested, charged, convicted, pay their fines, serve their time, and be released, just like a zillions of other protesters that have used 1st Amendment rights, but didn't escape the consequences of their actions.

[–]Faps2Down_Votes 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

What first amendment rights are you talking about? The first amendment doesn't apply when you are breaking the law.

[–]DiscordianStooge 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure it does. You can't be arrested for your speech on the freeway. You can be arrested for obstructing traffic, though.

[–]Faps2Down_Votes 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

In addition, the protestors rights do not supersede those that are stuck in traffic.

[–]dankmernes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's probably why they'll be arrested and (insert prev comment)

[–]bealmoth -3ポイント-2ポイント  (8子コメント)

haha but campaign contributions from corporations is legal, ahahahahahaa

[–]Faps2Down_Votes 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Wtf are you talking about? Why are you trying to derail discussion by bringing up something that has nothing to do with the topic?

[–]bealmoth -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I am responding to your apparent love fest for the law

[–]Faps2Down_Votes 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

laws are stupid amirite guise?

I was 12 once too.

[–]Tuilere -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Protesters aren't blocking freeways specifically to inconvenience you, you precious butterfly. If you're madder about being delayed than you are about the disproportionate killing of black folks by the police, you're mad about the wrong thing. And that in itself is a privilege.

[–]PolyNecropolis 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you're madder about being delayed than you are about the disproportionate killing of black folks by the police

Can we be mad at both? I don't think finding these types of protests annoying, and being upset about the disproportionate killing of blacks by police are mutually exclusive.

[–]Tuilere -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, but one hell of a lot of people seem to prioritize their clear path to work over righteous anger that people who are a different color are getting killed solely for their color of their skin.

Like these assholes: https://www.instagram.com/p/BHzluygDFi1/

[–]agrueeatedu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

should be naming names and calling employers about that crap. Death threats are a serious issue.

[–]chucknorris10101 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thats not what im saying Mr. strawman, im saying that for a movement with alot of people in the indifferent or ambivalent stages, inconveniencing them or potentially preventing the use of the road for emergency vehicles is not the way to engender more common support

[–]barrinmwSeward -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, everyone here is only worried about the emergency vehicles.

[–]smkeillor 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was organized by a group of non-poc BLM allies, so that makes sense

[–]ITworksGuys 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The activists identified themselves as nonblacks who are stepping up on behalf of Black Lives Matters.

[–]boomer456 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking morons

[–]Faps2Down_Votes -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

These are the same nutsacks who are going 30k+ in debt for their gender studies degree only to work at Starbucks when they graduate. Then they will complain that they are "over educated" for their position when in reality they just have a worthless degree and more than likely are worthless. Then in turn they will vote for the asshole that promises them the most free stuff.

[–]Jayohv -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course it was. You schedule anything at 730am and it's going to be 99% white people.