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[–]Zeldafan26 162ポイント163ポイント  (888子コメント)

I had no idea there were so many people against circumcision. Edit: I have never gotten this many replies to a comment before. Note to self: Don't talk about circumcision.

[–]Captain_Draco 24ポイント25ポイント  (24子コメント)

Most people outside the USA, Canada, Britain, Isreal and Islamic nations oppose it.

[–]EntropyNZ 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's rare to be circumcised in the UK unless you're Jewish. It's certainly not routine like it is in the US.

[–]ak40keven 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

I thought the british didn't circumcise.

[–]Gibslayer 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not common for Brits to be circumcised. It's a pretty weird concept to us.

[–]ninjustin 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I knew some places were against it but to be honest as someone who was circumcised as a baby it seems like the most inane waste of time thing to complain about.

[–]Gibslayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well if you've already been circumcised you can't really uncircumcised yourself. So it makes no sense to blame people who are circumcised for being circumcised.

But as for continuing on this "tradition" that America has that seems weird. As circumcision is an unnecessary risk for someone who has no choice in the matter when the tradition stems from the idea of stopping boys from wanking.

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    [–]GAThrawnMIA 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Think you might need to double-check your list.

    I'm British, don't know anyone who's been snipped. Mutilating children as a matter of course seems a very bizarre, barbaric practise.

    [–]Dariszaca 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Brits dont do it

    [–]Gurner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    New Zealand doesn't oppose it.

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      [–]Ecclesia_Andune 191ポイント192ポイント  (531子コメント)

      Pretty sure Denmark just banned the practice.

      Rightly IMO, the 'health' advantages are tenuous at best, and it's removing a part of a body without consent for psuedo science.
      It cuts a lot of sensitivity away too.

      [–]Redditapology 172ポイント173ポイント  (174子コメント)

      Whether the sensitivity part makes a difference is a debatable but there is definitely some questions about the practicality of it.

      That being said, the..."dramatic" stance people take over it kind of kills off any rational discussion, as seen below.

      [–]Canopenerdude 134ポイント135ポイント  (42子コメント)

      I was circumcised as a baby, and I'm completely ambivalent to the whole thing. I've never had a time in my life where I thought 'man, I really wish I had some extra skin hanging off my penis'.

      Funny story, had someone on Reddit tell me I was a pitiable subhuman because I was 'mutilated'.

      [–]PandahOG 52ポイント53ポイント  (24子コメント)

      Reddit is the only place where I have been told to hate my parents for doing it to me. Not to mention, never even gave it a thought. Not like I was ever asked if I was cut for a bank loan or a drivers license or for a job application.

      This movement would of never have taken off if there wasnt other men shaming other men and making them feel bad for something they never thought about.

      [–]Arkiasis 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

      This movement would of never have taken off if there wasnt other men shaming other men and making them feel bad for something they never thought about.

      I find it's mostly the circumcised guys and women doing the shaming towards uncut guys. "lol smegma" "it's gross" "women hate it" etc.

      [–]nnmk 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They could have chopped the whole dang thing off and still no one would care for your bank loan. Doesn't mean it's not a bizarre practice.

      [–]-DDD- 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      i blame europeans

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        [–]Redditapology 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

        I find a lot of the more hardcore types tend to project a lot. They don't have great sex lives and they think if they hadn't been circumcised it would be great. So they blame the world and their parents.

        If you dont support it, dont do it to your own kids. Sometimes people don't need activism, they need therapy.

        [–]The_Thylacine 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

        It's the blame game, I think some people just want to be mad at their parents/society for something. Honestly I don't really care, it's just less cleaning I have to do.

        [–]Barkovitch 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I'm envious. The amount of plans I've had to cancel on because I was too busy washing my foreskin is just ridiculous.

        [–]The_Thylacine 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

        "Sorry, I can't go in to work today. It's foreskin washing day, and you know how that is."

        [–]pisspoordecisions 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        A decent amount of circumcisions result in a skin bridge, which can be pretty painful and embarrassing and is usually never fixed by parents. A lot of people are against it for reasons like that.

        [–]Canopenerdude 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I can see that. Didn't happen to me, so I guess I never thought about it too much.

        [–]triplehelix_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        i'm cut and very much against the continued practice. i don't think you are a pitiable subhuman, and hope you don't judge all those who are against surgically altering the genitals of non-consenting infants by the measure of this obviously emotional individual, who may at the time been struggling with negative feelings about what he views as a violation of his body autonomy.

        [–]AnotherDrZoidberg 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I was not circumsized and have, at various times, thought, "I Wish I didn't have this extra skin."

        I was always very self conscious about it. Mostly because one day, in the 1st grade, another kid saw it and said it looked like an ant eater and told other people. Porn always made me feel different too.

        [–]Canopenerdude 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        That really sucks :/ honestly i just hate that there's another reason to make the world into an 'us-vs-them'

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          [–]Ecclesia_Andune 31ポイント32ポイント  (63子コメント)

          Yup people don't like to discuss it clearly. It's just not something i want done. I don't see what benefits it gives that 'washing' doesn't.

          [–]fraccus 30ポイント31ポイント  (57子コメント)

          Back in the day, washing wasnt as common/available.

          Now, well, its a tradition. And people really hate giving up traditions.

          [–]jmg83 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

          The fact that it wasn't done to most people back in the day and they got by speaks volumes. If some medieval motherfuckers who bathed once a week didn't need to be circumcised, then the idea of doing it today when even the poorest people have access to running water is just stupid.

          [–]THANKS-FOR-THE-GOLD 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

          What they dont tell you about in the history books is all thier dicks falling off from all the disease.

          [–]nightcreation 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Yeah, but wasn't the life expectancy of someone back then like, half of what it is today?

          [–]jmg83 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Of all the things this could be blamed on, I'm sure that having a whole penis isn't one of them.

          [–]nightcreation 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It could easily have been one of a thousand factors. I mean, do you think all those dudes washed between their foreskin back then? Shit can get pretty fuckin nasty if you don't wash it often.

          [–]royalroadweed 26ポイント27ポイント  (9子コメント)

          Except is was never really about that. At least in America it wasn't. It was about 19th century society not wanting young men to masturbate.

          [–]Msj2705 44ポイント45ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Well I can tell you right now it doesn't stop me.

          [–]fraccus 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It didnt stop your grandaddies either

          [–]fraccus 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

          Except is was never really about that. At least in America it wasn't.

          Circumcision wasnt started in 19th century america, im not sure how that argues against the 'ancient' reason for circumcision, which was done for health and religious reasons.

          It was about 19th century society not wanting young men to masturbate.

          Maybe in that time that was their reason, theres lots of reasons out there for it. I just pointed out the original and current (mainstream) reasons.

          [–]gprime311 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Read about Kellogg's campaign against circumcision. He is the reason why it's prevalent in America.

          [–]fraccus 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Well i found this

          http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=0

          From a google search. But im gonna go out on a limb here and say he is probably not the reason circumcision is prevalent in america. I would argue that traditions from immigrants had more of an influence, as there were alot more of them than there were kellogs.

          [–]blazerboy3000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Relevant and fairly accurate video (yea, it's college humor, but it's still mostly correct), you'd be surprised by the power wielded by 20th century millionaires.

          [–]amaefm 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          But circumcision wasn't mainstream in the US until the 1900's. Even as late as WWII it wasn't the mainstream, it was something Jewish people did for religious reasons.

          [–]just_a_beaver 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Adam Ruins Everything had a great episode on this.

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            [–]ATI_nerd 7ポイント8ポイント  (35子コメント)

            This argument doesn't really hold water. If washing isn't common or available, then why would surgery be a viable alternative to anything?

            If anything, it makes surgery riskier, and a less advisable.

            [–]pantherbrujah 20ポイント21ポイント  (20子コメント)

            It was done in an age when running water and hygiene wasn't a common practice among the unwashed masses. However I would imagine most places where the surgery would be done could use the correct methods to maintain the required level of hygiene for the procedure.

            Although the procedure would be riskier I would imagine in the long term the reduced urinary tract infections would far exceed the number of complications from the procedure.

            All that being said I actually experienced complications from the procedure as a child and was forced to have two surgical procedures done. It has left me with some pretty gnarly scars and stitching. It led to a far reduced sensation in several parts and some serious psychological harm during my development in an area of the US that never talks about sexual health.

            I am very against this procedure as I have experienced firsthand exactly what it can do to a person.

            [–]KronktheKronk 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

            It was done in an age where ingrouping and societal control through religion was widespread and growing.

            There are civilizations who never practiced circumcision and they survived.

            [–]RapingTheWilling 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

            The people that were practicing circumcision survived as well. That's not a very good argument for or against it, just because they didn't die.

            [–]KronktheKronk 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

            It's not an argument directly against it, it's a counter-argument to the perspective that "people did/do it a long time ago because it has hygienic benefits"

            Which is both bullshit and beside the point. Human dominion over ones own body is a fundamental right and borderline to negligible decreases in the chance of contracting AIDS is not sufficient reason to force it on people.

            [–]Waterknight94 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

            As someone who the worst pain they have ever felt in their entire life was the result of having an uncircumcised penis, I find people against it to be on the same level as anti-vaxxers.

            [–]pantherbrujah 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Anti vaxxers are a group of people who based their entire movement on a doctor who lied on a written paper that was later debunked.

            I can confirm with my physical scars what happened to me because of this elective procedure. That being said why do you feel that way? What happened to make them so stupid in your mind?

            [–]Waterknight94 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

            As I said, the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. Some sort of infection. Of course that is before hearing your story. Im not calling you wrong at all. You have direct evidence for your position. 90% of anti circumcision people Ive talked to have no solid evidence. Its not like your story is highly publicised or even super common. But it is definitely valid and I would not blame you one bit for not snipping your son.

            [–]Pastasky 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Low risk events do not warrant controlling for. If the worst pain I ever felt was in my earlobe, that wouldn't warrant cutting of the earlobe of every child. On the other hand, if it was a common thing for earlobes to cause people terrible pain, I would agree. But it isn't.

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              [–]fraccus 4ポイント5ポイント  (12子コメント)

              Except its not an argument. Im not taking any sides. Im just stating the facts of the time. Back then they (thought) it was easier to cut than to wash. Nowadays people are just holding to tradition.

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                [–]hyperthermia 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                It doesn't need washing, there bacteria in there are natural, just like intestinal bacteria. And if something bad does get there, urine usually clears it up. If anything I think the foreskin actually protects from bad stuff.

                [–]fraccus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Thats a hilarious misconception

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                    [–]Grumpchkin 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    I believe it was found that there was no loss of sensitivity in the parts that are left but that there is an overall loss due to the loss of the foreskin.

                    [–]gary_mcpirate 16ポイント17ポイント  (10子コメント)

                    I had mine removed as an adult for health reasons. The difference in sensitivity is huge

                    [–]StpdSxyFlndrs 16ポイント17ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    Really? I also had mine removed as an adult for health reasons, and I found the difference in sensitivity to be practically negligible.

                    [–]captain_craptain 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    I'm sure it is different for everyone but the reduction is measurable and has been measured by a study: SFW image

                    [–]RockFourFour 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    I was circumcised as a baby, like most American men are. I have nothing to compare the sensitivity to, but I would describe my sex life as normal. I'm totally fine with what I have.

                    Having said that, it doesn't excuse the fact that we're mutilating the genitals of babies for tradition. It's kind of fucked up.

                    [–]Alphaetus_Prime 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    All that tells us is the difference in sensitivity if it's removed as an adult

                    [–]Moleculor 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    This is the abortion debate or climate change for men.

                    I doubt there will ever be rational debate, because each side considers their side to be the only rational side, and that there is literally no place for rational debate.

                    The climate change debate can be boiled down to (for the vast majority of those debating) science vs religion. Religion can and will never be able to have a debate with science and vice versa. The two just don't mix. They have different standards of what constitutes a well-made point of debate.

                    A scientist trying to have a rational debate with someone who points to a rainbow and praises "God's Covenant" is a bit like trying to teach a pig to sing.

                    Abortion is similar. Generally, it's a debate of ethics and science vs religion.

                    Circumcision is also similar. It's a debate of ethics vs millennia of tradition. Science doesn't or can't even factor in to it yet, because the science that has been done is either shoddy, non-applicable (e.g. studies' conclusions on the effectiveness of preventing STD transmission only being presented in the context of third-world Africa, but being applied to the whole world), or non-existant.

                    Those who have the very valid and serious point concerning consent are literally having to argue against thousands of years of tradition. Logic and reasoning will not work in the face of some parent insisting they should be able to amputate something on their child because of tradition. It just won't.

                    Because logic and reasoning do not work, and will likely never work, the only hope for ending the barbarian-era traditions from the stone ages is to enlist societal pressure on those who insist on carrying on the traditions of their ancestors by painting those who hold on to tradition in a negative enough light to place them on the wrong side of history, similar to the racial debates of the 1960s. If society can be swayed to view those practice barbarism negatively in the same way that Martin Luther King Jr and those like him painted racists as 'wrongheaded', then and only then will those who are against circumcision succeed at affecting societal change.

                    [–]metaltrite 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    not just the sensitivity, you're removing part of a mucosal membrane

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                      [–]NoLaNaDeR 46ポイント47ポイント  (31子コメント)

                      I'm cut. The D still feels pretty good in the P

                      [–]PandahOG 33ポイント34ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      But you are wrong and should feel bad and feel like a victim of sexual assault by your parents.

                      /s

                      [–]nnmk 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      If they had chopped your dick in half, the D would probably still feel good in the P.

                      [–]MerryMacattack 2ポイント3ポイント  (23子コメント)

                      I'm cut and glad I was. Uhh I mean, da joos did this

                      [–]ender89 16ポイント17ポイント  (18子コメント)

                      The weird part is its not only accepted practice in America, so many people get circumcised that an uncircumcised penis is treated as bizarre and scary in pop culture, like having a normal penis is something you should warn people about before they see it.

                      [–]captain_craptain 1ポイント2ポイント  (17子コメント)

                      It is ridiculous, our country is so immature on this issue and it is pathetic. People saying they are 'glad they were cut' in what seems like an attempt to hide their shame or keep the mindset that it was somehow 'OK' to do to them. I feel badly for them all, but would never want to make them feel bad about themselves.

                      It's a tough line to walk when you don't want to offend or hurt the people you think were treated the worst when they insist that they're fine. It's almost like a girl defending the guy in an abusive relationship.

                      [–]olite206 10ポイント11ポイント  (12子コメント)

                      Personally it just does not affect me at all. I dont care that i got circumcised. I wouldnt have cared if I didnt. I feel like thats most peoples mentality about it.

                      [–]Waterknight94 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      I say Im glad Im cut. Of course it happened when I was 7 years old so that is certainly different from as a newborn.

                      [–]captain_craptain 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      It certainly is. It still is not old enough for you to make that decision barring any medical necessity. So what was the reason? Phimosis?

                      [–]Waterknight94 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Some sort of infection. And I suppose it wasnt much of a choice honestly, because the choice was either suffer through another day or more of the worst pain I had (still to this day) ever felt or just go in and get a little flap of skin cut off and never have a problem again. I dont think many people would choose the alternative.

                      [–]captain_craptain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Some sort of infection. And I suppose it wasnt much of a choice honestly

                      That was my whole point, no whole man voluntarily goes in to get cut unless there is a problem. That is no bueno bro, sorry.

                      I dont think many people would choose the alternative.

                      I'd just teach my kid to wash his penis in the first place to avoid the while issue altogether.

                      [–]tman7779 26ポイント27ポイント  (21子コメント)

                      Ever since a few Redditor's talked about being circumcised when they were adults and not noticing any change to sensitivity, I've been pretty indifferent about the subject. Do it, don't do it, I don't care. There is no solid research to show that it negatively affects someone. I myself am circumcised and don't give 2 shits.

                      [–]Rajani_Isa 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      If your circumcision is affecting your shitting then the doctor did something wrong.

                      [–]Whiskeypants17 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      instructions unclear: dick now in a box

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                        [–]tylerdean9944 14ポイント15ポイント  (77子コメント)

                        Without consent? According to most laws, parents assume the responsibility for a child until he or she is able to do so themselves. So where is the consent problem?

                        [–]KronktheKronk 8ポイント9ポイント  (72子コメント)

                        I don't see people making <18 year old girls follow through with pregnancies based on their parents wishes anywhere.

                        there is no age at which dominion over your own body becomes a right, it's inherenet (or should be).

                        [–]tylerdean9944 2ポイント3ポイント  (63子コメント)

                        Did I say 18 was the age? In the US, when an individual is unable to medically make a decision, legally the guardian/closest family member in terms of adults, is able to make major medical decisions.

                        [–]Rajani_Isa 6ポイント7ポイント  (21子コメント)

                        In most cases circumcision is a religious decision or tradition. Not a true medical decision.

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                            [–]captain_craptain 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Give your baby a tattoo or pierce their ears, let CPS know what you've done and then your head will spin so fast as they take your kid away.

                            But yeah! Lets defend giving them the choice to remove 1/3 of their penile skin, 30,000-50,000 specialized nerves and the gliding function of the foreskin in a painful operation that will fundamentally change the way their sexual anatomy functions for the rest of their lives in a reduced level of operation and sensitivity! Sounds like a great thing to let masses of people who don't know shit about the issue decide for their kids...

                            [–]tylerdean9944 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            America's fertility rate is fine. I don't see much of a problem.

                            [–]captain_craptain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            It's about ethics, not population control. Fertility rate is irrelevant man...

                            [–]Pastasky 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            The consent reason is that there is really no reason for the parents to be the one making the decision when they could just wait until the kid is older.

                            For other violation's of a child's consent (forcing a child to get a vaccination for example) its because the child is not in a position to to make an accurate judgement and the decision at hand has an immediate and significant impact on the child's quality of life.

                            Circumcision on the other hand,either way, has little impact on the child's quality of life so there is no harm in waiting until the child is an adult and can make that decision for himself.

                            [–]BrutusHawke 31ポイント32ポイント  (65子コメント)

                            I'm just super happy I'm circumcised. Looks way better imo, and imo it should be left up to the parents.

                            [–]immortalreploid 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Yeah, I'm with you there.

                            [–]tartay745 7ポイント8ポイント  (33子コメント)

                            Seriously. I can tell you 100% that I'll never suck a guy's dick if he is uncircumcised.

                            [–]Sarioth 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Maybe it's because I like to makeout before someone goes down on me, but I was with a girl who told me that she wouldn't suck an uncircumcised dick if she saw one. I had to inform her that she had, in fact, sucked such a dick, my own.

                            Granted, we were both young and inexperienced, but when it's hard, you can't really tell much of a difference until it moves about.

                            [–]BrutusHawke 4ポイント5ポイント  (24子コメント)

                            Soooo many girls I know thing uncircumcised dicks are gross

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                              [–]t_leevs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Same. Glad my dick doesn't look like a pig's asshole

                              [–]Pastasky 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              imo it should be left up to the parents.

                              Why? The decision is irreversible and has no significant or immediate impact on the child's quality of life either way. So what is wrong with letting the kid make the decision when is older?

                              The harm with the parents making the decision, is that the kid may not like the decision when he is older but there is no way to reverse it.

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                                [–]shandow0 2ポイント3ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                Pretty sure Denmark just banned the practice.

                                Source? i cant find one saying that its illegal, only that a surgeon has to perform the circumcision.

                                [–]therealchungis 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                The only reason it is pushed so much is because they make money off of it. Foreskins are literally made into beauty products it's fucking disgusting.

                                [–]joonior83 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I wonder if it came from the practice of Brit Milah, the practice of a Jewish Mohel to circumcise the baby and then suck the blood off it's penis.

                                [–]nexguy 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                As for not having consent, does that mean children should not be educated or given shots or hair cuts because they may not give consent? Just curious.

                                [–]captain_craptain 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                Such a weak argument. Within reason certain things yes are parents discretion.

                                Give your kid a chest tattoo and you'll get your kid taken away for child abuse.

                                Give your kid over to a doctor to mutilate his genitals in a permanent and irreversible way and the hospital will throw you a party (Because they just charged you a few hundred dollars for the procedure and now they're gonna turn around and sell that foreskin for thousands of dollars a pop)

                                So in this case yes it absolutely be the childs right to choose at a later time. Outlaw it until people can go voluntarily mutilate their dicks when they turn 18.

                                [–]Pastasky 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                The difference is that hair cuts are reversible, and vaccinations have an actual and significant and immediate impact on quality of life.

                                On the other hand circumcision is irreversible and has little impact on quality of life, as such there is no reason to just let the kid make the decision for himself when he is older.

                                [–]1shadowwolf 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I'm not going to lie... I'm glad Im circumcised, I wouldn't want any more feeling down there FFS i'm already horny 23 hours a day and the shit gets tender as fuck after the 2nd time... I honestly wouldn't want it any more sensitive.

                                [–]RockyTheSakeBukakke 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Yeah but my penis is so handsome

                                [–]Waterknight94 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                The health advantages are anecdotally true from my perspective. You could also argue that less sensitive is better if it means it takes a longer amount of time to orgasm.

                                [–]HiHoHiHoYo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I find the whole discussion interesting. I'm was circumcised at birth and am very happy about that fact - as is every circumcised man I've discussed the issue with.

                                I'm equally sure I would feel the same exact way if I were uncircumcised - as would most or all uncircumcised men I assume.

                                So, I guess, all things considered, the practice really makes very little sense beyond the religious reasons.

                                [–]charizardbrah 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Wish it would have affected my sensitivity...

                                [–]gnit2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Well my buddy didn't get cut until he was 16, he needed it for health reasons, and boy does he wish he had it done when he was a baby, not a teenager.

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                                  [–]Ecclesia_Andune 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Holy FUCK reddit gets triggered by circumcision. Wow.

                                  [–]lady_MoundMaker 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Reddit gets triggered by a lot of things.

                                  [–]xdeviousx 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Im circumcised, im not vocal about my opinion at all, but I wish I wasnt.

                                  [–]lordcameltoe 36ポイント37ポイント  (100子コメント)

                                  I'm really surprised as well. I didn't think it to be such a big deal.

                                  I'm circumcised and happy as hell that I am. It was done when I was a baby, I dont remember a thing and I like it the way it is. I don't understand the controversy.

                                  [–]fullhalter 22ポイント23ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                  I had a botched circumcision that didn't heal correctly, now I have a skin bridge that makes prolonged sex very uncomfortable.

                                  [–]lordcameltoe 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  I am sorry to hear about it. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. However, after some quick googling, I see that these can be easily fixed with a minor operation. Have you talked to your GP about it?

                                  [–]fullhalter 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Yeah, I have. I'm having a vasectomy in a few months and am having it done then. I actually didn't know I had anything abnormal until I went in for the consult for the vasectomy.

                                  [–]lordcameltoe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  That sucks it happened to you. I'm glad its going to get fixed!

                                  [–]Dariszaca 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  It happens far to much for it to be worth the rather minor health affects it could possibly cause, Its seen as barbaric by most of the world

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                                    [–]4sRPics 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                    That's really the cornerstone of circumcision support, people have no idea what the foreskin does or what benefits there are to having one.

                                    If one presents you with a object (such as a body part), gives you a list of problems it can cause, but completely omits its function or purpose, its easy to convince people of the need for its destruction.

                                    Most people who are against circumcision understand the benefits to having a foreskin. Those who support circumcision often are unwilling or unable to understand.

                                    [–]lordcameltoe 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    In all honesty, I've never done any research on this subject. But you seem to have done some.

                                    Could you please reference non-biased and reliable sources of information that detail the benefits of having a foreskin? I would like to become one of the first to be willing and capable of understanding :)

                                    [–]4sRPics 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Hmm, this being a hot button topic, its pretty easy to have bias in just about any article or study. This topic seems to be an active pissing contest between the US's and Europe's scientific bodies.

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin

                                    I hate referring to wiki as a "reference" since it contradicts itself from page to page and different articles are controlled by different bodies, but its what'll I'll do for now since its what seems most neutral. But it does have a half decent section on the functions of the foreskin.

                                    On the, ehem, more bias side:

                                    http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/

                                    As with anything like this site, you should view it with a critical lens and double check on the references listed.

                                    I'm sure you're unlikely interested in anecdotes, but my biggest push for support of genital autonomy came from my own restoration. While I was against circumcision before I started my restoration, its really what cemented my opinion. I started because I wanted the gliding function back and I didn't frankly like the look of my penis (very dark scar, didn't like the dry glans). I got much more back from my restoration than I expected. I won't wane on into details, but you can always look up testimonies on restoration if you're bored.

                                    [–]Legendhidde 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    A layer of protection for a sensitive body part

                                    [–]GeneraIDisarray 9ポイント10ポイント  (44子コメント)

                                    Can I ask why are you "happy as hell". What makes you that happy, since you have no experience of not being circumcised?

                                    [–]Securitron81624 7ポイント8ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                    Not the guy you asked and obviously biased from looking at my own but I think it looks better.

                                    [–]4sRPics 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                    It looks better to you because its what you're used to seeing.

                                    There are many body modifications that are popular in various cultures that look hideous to outsiders, because one is used to one appearance, and the other is not.

                                    What you see in an intact penis is loose, wrinkly "extra" skin.

                                    When others from other cultures see a cut penis, they see scars, discoloration, a dry/cracked glans and parts they usually find erotic to be completely missing.

                                    Changing the body to match cultural appearance is a self diminishing defense. If it were stopped, it would never be expected. Thus there is no net loss.

                                    [–]headshothoncho 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    I have ran into a bunch of females that actually say they are grossed out when they get with an uncircumcised guy.

                                    [–]Dariszaca 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Thats because they are american and dont expect it, did you even read what he just wrote ?

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                                      [–]Doctor_M_Toboggan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      This is the 3rd or 4th time I've heard "dry cracked" dick tip coming up. I'm am circumcised and have never experienced this phenomenon. Any others experience this? It kinda sounds like the sensitivity issue along the lines of "Do you want your kid to end up with a dry crackly dick? Then don't cut!", when in reality it's completely different from person to person.

                                      I'd also curious about the severity of the surgical issues today vs. historically. Sure if you were cut 30 years ago they likely used different procedures that may have had the potential to be more damaging. On the other hand, my friend's brother just had a boy last week and he said the circumcision was some sort of rubber band contraption, and there were no incisions involved.

                                      [–]4sRPics 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      You're expectations are likely slightly misguided. While it of course differs from person to person, there is a very consistent difference between the appearance of the glans of a circumcised and intact penis.

                                      Small cracks and some deep cracks often form on the glans of circumcised penises. This comes from the exposure and lack of moisture that is normally needed for the penis. By contrast, environment the foreskin provides protects the external membrane of the glans from becoming damaged. This results in a very smooth, almost mirror like surface on the glans of intact penises. Due to the healthier membrane, blood vessels and nerve endings appear much closer to the surface, giving the glans a much more vibrant color compares to the more pale tone of the glans of a circumcised penis. I'd give you images, but given the nature of this subreddit I won't.

                                      The methods that are used now have existed for a long time now. The method you're speaking of is the plastibell. Unfortunately, its common misconception (and straight up lie from many doctors) that this doesn't involve cutting. It still requires tearing the foreskin from the glans (which is adhered with the same tissue that connects the fingernail to the finger) and then an incision is made alone the top. The second cut is not needed because it instead a band cuts off the blood flow to cause the remainder of the trapped penis to rot off.

                                      http://jpma.org.pk/images/Aug2010/ComparisonOfComplications1.jpg

                                      Naturally, any method used still damages the ability of the penis to work correctly as it removes the gliding mechanic of the penis. Without this, abrasions and pain is still an often side effect of masturbation or intercourse (for either partner), often needing external lubricants to attempt to combat this deficit.

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                                          [–]Pastasky 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          It isn't about you. You have all the right to be as happy or unhappy with the decision as you want.

                                          Its about self determination and letting future people make that decision for themselves. You maybe happy, but a future circumcised person may not be, and there is no going back from that. On the other-hand, an uncircumcised adult can decide to get circumcised if he is unhappy with the state of things.

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                                            [–]JX3D97 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                            its really unnecessary, especially if you just teach the man how to properly clean themselves

                                            [–]barufkeftw 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Its not rocket science, pull back, soap up, rinse done. You dont really have to teach it is what iam trying to say.

                                            [–]JX3D97 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            i know. and one of the excuses for having it done is cleaning. what, people are so lazy anymore they can't clean themselves?

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                                              [–]LukeArtanis 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Yes, and many medical organizations strongly oppose circumcision too. None are able to recommend routine infant circumcision for medical reasons. Not even the pro-circumcision AAP can justify such a position on medical grounds. Circumcision is a cultural practice, not medicine.

                                              [–]BlueKnight8907 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Yeah, I never thought it was such an issue that it warranted being on a mobile billboard. That is so bizarre.

                                              [–]dub121686 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Its fine to be okay with it as an adult, but there should be some talks and dialogue about its point. It really isnt just skin.

                                              [–]UncleSisterFister 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Well, you now know one of the subjects that makes reddit go full retard. Use this knowledge responsibly. Our don't, it's wherever.

                                              [–]PoopShootGoon 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              Well for starters, i might have liked my dick the way it was supposed to be.

                                              [–]Trynottobeacunt 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              It's sort of standard to be against genital mutilation in the country I'm from.

                                              [–]zBriGuy 9ポイント10ポイント  (79子コメント)

                                              Unnecessary, irreversible, and dangerous cosmetic plastic surgery of an infant's genitals? I have no idea why there are so many people for circumcision.

                                              [–]LukeArtanis 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                              Forgive my pedantry, but cosmetic surgery only affects appearance. The foreskin performs many functions including sliding and gliding motion of sex, lubrication, sexual sensation, protection of the glans penis, and immunological function. So circumcision is not cosmetic because it drastically alters the function of the penis.

                                              Also many people associate the word "cosmetic" with beauty or enhancement. Of course, beauty is subjective. Others find the dried out glans, circumcision scar and abrupt color contract at the scar to be unsightly. It is certainly not a natural look. (Plastic surgery, as you say.) Only through cultural conditioning can one's innate preference for Nature's perfect beauty be perverted into an acceptance of forced scarification and amputation of children's genitalia and a cruel apathy for the psychological and sexual damage they suffer.

                                              [–]zBriGuy 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              I completely agree with everything you've said. While some parents hide behind reasons like hygiene, most of the time it is done because of the aesthetic preferences of the parents and/or religion. So I'd say that aside from the rare times when it's actually medically warranted, it is primarily a cosmetic surgery.

                                              [–]LukeArtanis 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              We don't disagree. I suggest that the terms "medically unnecessary" and "non-therapeutic" are preferable to "cosmetic" in helping people understand the issue clearly since they are without positive connotations. There is a myth that women prefer circumcised penises, which is another common reason parents give for cutting their children. For people who believe that myth, characterizing circumcision as cosmetic may encourage them to cut.

                                              [–]hedrumsamongus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              There is a myth that women prefer circumcised penises, which is another common reason parents give for cutting their children.

                                              I really like and agree with what you're saying, although I don't think I'd classify that as a "myth." There are plenty of women who do. However, I'd wager that the proportion of women in a given region who prefer cut to uncut is roughly equal to the proportion of men who are circumcised in that same region.

                                              In most of Europe, for example, circumcision is unusual, so women are much more likely to have an aesthetic preference toward foreskin. In the US, I don't think I've ever seen a personal ad requesting uncircumsized men; I see ads specifying "circumcised only" regularly.

                                              So it's basically a fashion thing rather than an innate evolutionary selection criterion - if no men were circumcised, there would be no preference for circumcised men. If all men were circumcised, then the uncut would be a freak.

                                              [–]ManWithYourPlan 27ポイント28ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                              I'm glad I was circumcised. Especially when I was an infant.

                                              [–]CrimeFightingScience 10ポイント11ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                              That's good for you, but I feel cheated that I was. I didn't want to, but too bad now.

                                              We should let a person decide if their penis is going to be irreversibly cut or not. Seems like it should be a pretty obvious situation.

                                              [–]PandahOG 9ポイント10ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                              So when did you feel cheated? When you looked up what circumcision was or when a bunch of people were telling you that you should feel cheated?

                                              [–]CrimeFightingScience 1ポイント2ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                              Hard to pinpoint, but probably the first time I learned what circumcision was. I just didn't want it.

                                              Not saying anyone's existing status is better or worse. Just that, I don't know, we should ask people before cutting their genitals.

                                              [–]PandahOG 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                              we should ask people before cutting their genitals.

                                              That is fair and reasonable. The only problem with this whole debate over circumcision is that one side is ok with what was done and is enjoying life while the other side is trying to make them feel bad and feel like a victim for something they do not care about.

                                              You see it all over here that there are plenty of cut guys who are fine with it but are being attacked or ask, "so you are ok with me cutting your newborn's ear lobe off?"

                                              But you are right, people should have the right to their gentials but we shouldnt try to victimize people who have had it done.

                                              [–]CrimeFightingScience 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              But you are right, people should have the right to their gentials but we shouldnt try to victimize people who have had it done.

                                              Totally agree. Yeah, those people are a bit loopy.

                                              [–]Pastasky 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              while the other side is trying to make them feel bad and feel like a victim for something they do not care about.

                                              They shouldn't be doing this. But I also think that many people are overly defensive and feel if one argues that involuntary circumcision is wrong, then that means that something is wrong with them for being circumcised. So then they feel the need to say stuff like "I'm okay with having been circumcised".

                                              That is irrelevant to the conversation. Hence the response:

                                              "so you are ok with me cutting your newborn's ear lobe off?"

                                              That isn't an attack on the person. Its pointing out that just because an adult may feel okay with it having been done as a baby, doesn't make it right.

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                                                    [–]zBriGuy 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                    Good for you, but I'm not. But fuck me, right?

                                                    [–]FesterBoot 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                    Why not?

                                                    [–]zBriGuy 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                    A fair question. I have many reasons why it upsets me. In addition to the many general reasons people give to oppose it, I suffer from complications of the surgery that have left me with a disfigurement (above and beyond the physical modification that even an ideal circumcision would give). Google image search "penis skin bridge" if you want some idea.

                                                    Surgical complications like this can have a profound effect on one's self-confidence and emotions. I have personally gone through difficult times in my younger days dealing with what was done to me which has left me physically and emotionally scarred.

                                                    [–]FesterBoot 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    It says that this is caused during the healing process. Was the wound not properly treated? It also mentions that this can happen in uncircumcised men, are you advocating more awareness for this problem in general?

                                                    I also came across this link http://restoringtally.com/blog/2013/06/fixing-my-skin-bridge. This goes over some issue of a man, who had not been circumcised, dealing with the same issue.

                                                    [–]peety2269 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Your parents are to blame, not society

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                                                      [–]Thotaz 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      It's good that you are happy about not having foreskin, but why are you happy about it being done when you were an infant, instead of when you were older and would have been able to choose for yourself?

                                                      [–]ManWithYourPlan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      because I like being circumcised and I like even more the fact that I have no memory of the event

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                                                          [–]magicalmidgetmating 4ポイント5ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                                          I did't know there were so many people trying to find any means to justify the forcible amputation of parts of boys penises.

                                                          [–]kwantsu-dudes 9ポイント10ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                          I didnt know there were so many people that have to call removing a part of the penis as "forcible amputation" or "barbaric"(from another comment) to fear mongur their way through an argument.

                                                          Parents have control over their kids bodies. They can force them to go to school. They can cut their hair. They can make them wear stupid clothing. They can make them eat things they dont want to eat.

                                                          Are you out their protecting a child's right to not to be forced to move their body elsewhere? Their right to the hair follicles that grow out the top of their head? Their right of what's placed on their body? Their right to whats forced to be ingested into their body?

                                                          Certainly there is a line though. That i understand. But most of the circumsition hate seems to be coming from a hatred of religion or just simple arrogence that we need to ban something just because you didagree with it.

                                                          [–]Sarioth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Certainly there is a line though. That i understand.

                                                          Do you really? Because the entire argument is that the line should, probably, be drawn at "don't do things to your kids that physically cannot be undone."

                                                          Literally everything else you said about parental control is trivial in comparison to irreversibly removing part of the body.

                                                          [–]GarrioValere 1ポイント2ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                          Do you think forced female circumcision should also be allowed? How about cutting off or fusing an infant's earlobes?

                                                          [–]TeamLeibniz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          lol implying that female circumcision is in any way, shape, or form comparable to male circumcision.

                                                          I honestly have no clue why people get so butthurt over circumcision. IDK if people just want to blame some external factor for their not getting laid or what.

                                                          They think "hmm, I can't get laid and women hate me. Maybe it's because I stink of dorritos and live in my mom's basement? Nope, it's definitely because of some minor cosmetic surgery that was done to me as a child"

                                                          [–]Solace- -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Not even remotely the same thing lol

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                                                            [–]Arkiasis 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            I guess it should be legal for parents to get tattoo's for their kids. Children are not some fashion accessory that you can cut parts off of for your own liking.

                                                            [–]kwantsu-dudes 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                            Well its legal for parents to pierce their children's ears. I don't hear you guys bitching about that.

                                                            Thats something that would have a much easier time of making illegal too as its less controversial. And would be a good stepping stone to making circumcision illegal as it starts to have people questioning what patents can do to their children.

                                                            [–]magicalmidgetmating 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Ok try walking into a piercing place and having a 8 day olds ear pierced. You would get CPS called on you. No ones bitching about it because every one already knows its wrong.

                                                            [–]Pastasky 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            All examples you give are temporary and reversible. Can you explain to me why parents should have the right to engage their child in a surgery that is irreversible and doesn't have an impact on their quality of life? That is essentially needless? Why not just wait until the kid is an adult and can decide whether he wants it himself?

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                                                              [–]Redrum714 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                              Lol removing a tiny bit of skin is not "forcible amputation" you dumbass. That's like saying an ear piercing is getting impaled.

                                                              [–]magicalmidgetmating 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Its not a tiny bit of skin it is 15 square inches of skin about the size of an index card.

                                                              Well would you pierce your infant children's ear... No. Would you tattoo your child...No. It is their body it is not yours to modify in anyway.

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                                                                [–]HotCarls 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Lol outrage culture is incredible.

                                                                [–]Raiders310 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                Bunch of fucking losers, my dick is chillin.

                                                                [–]ManWithYourPlan 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                You have no idea the can of worms you just opened.

                                                                RIP your inbox with fuming anti-circumcisers.

                                                                [–]ffxivfunk 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                Bunch of whiners in my opinion. Oh boo-hoo, you got minor surgery when you were a baby that you can't even remember. It's not a life-ruining surgery, it's not comparable to mutilation, it's a tiny fucking piece of skin. You don't let children decide if they're going to to go to the doctor's office, get braces, or anything else because they're children, they have no ability to make rational judgement.

                                                                Frankly, it just sounds like a bunch of men who feel the need to be able to cry they were injusticed somehow so they find non-issues and conflate them with real ones.

                                                                [–]olite206 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                I was cut and it literally doesnt bother me in the slightest. Ive never seen anybody complain about being cut, only other people on reddit that havent been cut raise hell about it.

                                                                [–]mcnewbie 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                it's not comparable to mutilation

                                                                the definition of mutilation is "to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts"

                                                                so yes, it is literally mutilation.

                                                                [–]Alecazander 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Yes, children have no rational judgement. Then it remains up to their parents to make rational decisions, no? Let's pull out their fingernails! Then, dirt won't gather below them, it's more hygienic. Who really needs the buggers, anyway.

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                                                                  [–]wild_danguhtang 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  I'm glad it was done to me honestly. Some people are sooo against it though.

                                                                  [–]Dark-Ganon 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  I find it to be such a weird thing to be against too. I'm circumcised, but i have no animosity to the fact, not that i have any other grounds to base that on, since it was done as a baby like is usually the case. Would I have chosen to be if i could have had a say? Probably not, I get nervous just putting a hair trimmer anywhere near there. But it was done and gladly at a time where i can't remember the act or the healing process. I have no arguments though whether the act should be done or not because there's not really an answer to be had there

                                                                  [–]Pastasky 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Is it really that weird? Its mostly a non-therapeutic surgery. I would think any needless surgery would be weird to do to do some one with out their consent.

                                                                  because there's not really an answer to be had there

                                                                  I mean, it seems pretty clear to me. You don't do surgeries that are irreversible won't have a significant positive impact on the quality of life of the child with out their consent.

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                                                                    [–]Teh_Compass 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    They're complete dicks.

                                                                    (Shamelessly stolen from a 4chan post sorry)

                                                                    [–]triplehelix_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    there are a few forces at work. one, for some reason instead of uniting against surgically altering the genitals of infants, many women have decided its more useful to fight against recognizing male circ in english speaking countries as an issue and positioning female circ overseas as the only one we need to worry about.

                                                                    then there are the guys who have had it done who vehemently fight against the idea that there is anything wrong with non-consensually surgically altering the genitals of an infant. my personal theory is that its a protection mechanism that is protecting the individual from the idea that their own penis is anything less than perfect (size anxiety aside).

                                                                    but yes, many men and women see it as a violation of an individual's right to genital integrity and body autonomy. it should be something the individual themselves gets to decide on when they are an adult.

                                                                    [–]Arkiasis 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                    Cut guys need lube to masturbate.

                                                                    [–]Cormath 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    lol No we don't. Personally, I'm against it, but I also don't understand why most people who are get so fucking self righteously angry about it. I don't plan to circumcise any boys I have because I don't wanna cut parts off my kids, but I don't think it's a huge issue either way.

                                                                    [–]VexatiousOne 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Not always true... there are extremes to every degree... Many cut guys (wink wink) are left with a generous amount.

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