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Dealing with Stalkers[Question] -- Developer response (self.Guildwars2)

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Hi, bit of a long story so bear with me. Some time ago I was in a guild with a close-knit community in which we all got on really well. We spent a lot of time together doing guild events, running in WvW and all sorts. I am quite an anxious, shy person and this was the first time I made friends in an MMO. After a while they convinced me to join them in TS (which I would never have done before) and we had a lot of fun together.. for several months.

Then a new guy joined the guild. He seemed ok at first. He joined us in TS but he was kinda quiet. Then he started sending me whispers asking if he could add me on facebook or Skype and talk outside the game. This is a big no for me because I have had problems before, so I politely told him no thanks.

He then proceeded to spread lies about me and try to turn people against me in the guild. My guild leader told me that it would be best if I left to avoid drama. Obviously, I was quite upset that they believed this guy over me, and I played invisible for a while. Then I joined a new guild and made some new friends.

A few weeks ago one of my new guild friends told me that someone had been telling him I was a scammer, a thief and would steal all the items in the guild. It turned out the Stalker had been making up an intricate web of lies about me to try and discredit me.

The next day I was doing map complete and I had a whisper from someone calling me a "scammer" and telling me to kill myself. 5 minutes later I had another whisper telling me someone was talking about me in mapchat.

So, I unblocked the Stalker and sure enough, he was telling people I was a scammer, a thief etc. in map. I blocked him again and looked at my followers list. Every time I moved to a new zone, he followed me. I got a couple more whispers telling me the same thing. At this point I just logged off feeling really angry and upset.

A few days later I logged on again and the same thing happened. This time he followed me around zones for 2 hours.

What I don't understand is, how can I report someone like this? What does it come under? Verbal abuse? And how can he see where I am even when I block him?

I haven't logged on for a few days now and I know when I do he'll be waiting for me. What was supposed to be a break from real life misery has turned into something like a nightmare. If anyone has any suggestions I would be very grateful.

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[–]mxzf 119ポイント120ポイント  (10子コメント)

Report him for harassment, possibly through the OOG support system as well as the in-game one. This is horribly unacceptable behavior and should not be tolerated in GW2.

[–]The_Tyger 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

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[–]Lunateric 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hope he/she saved screens of this, if it's like it was described it may as well be a permaban.

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[–]MithranArkanereSUGGEST-A-TRON 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

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[–]ErazaiWelcome to the end. 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]MAD623 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]shana-bananaKitta.3657 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've had 2 stalkers that harassed me for around 2 months (for the first month it was non-stop) and would still do it right now if I logged in. I went through around 20+- mails with support over these 2 people harassing me and NOTHING has been done. Even though I have multiple video proofs, multiple screenshots... nothing has been done. They told me to block them, then to unblock them etc. They need to somehow catch them IN TEXT ingame to do something even though I provided screenshots and videos of them stalking me (and they did also out of the game by the way).

So really, support can only help you if they verbally harass you (which in my case they did in the first days but then I blocked them) with specific language. It's bullshit. It will be pretty much bittersweet to me if OP's story has a happy ending with support helping them out because I've done everything I could to get help from Anet's support to no end. Would just confirm how they only address this shit when it makes enough of a ruckus on here.

(and I'm worried that if they see this post of mine, they'll go back to doing it full force.)

Good luck anyway.

[–]mxzf 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

If not verbally, how have they been harassing you? There isn't any in-game harassment that I can think of that they can really do outside just following you around.

In your situation, I'd probably start working my way up the chain, directly emailing non-support people, PMing ANet people on Reddit, and calling their main office directly. It is a crappy situation though.

I actually had someone on here start sending me threatening messages demanding my in-game name so they could harass me in-game, claiming that they'd made over 20 people quit because of it (they got upset because I defended the automoderator that took down their SJW rant on /r/Guildwars2). I laughed it off because I've dealt with trolls/harassment in other games where they actually can do stuff to you in-game, but it can definitely be disconcerting when someone starts targeting you directly.

[–]shana-bananaKitta.3657 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm usually a pretty strong person, I can take it and I can dish it back. I'm used to toxic people and all that jazz and it doesn't bother me. This stuff was just different, literally being stalked ingame every day was getting on my nerves.

To make a short story: They started harassing a friend of mine over petty issue they had with him (they used to all be friends). They made characters look exactly like his, named their characters after his own username but changed the name to annoy him (it's pretty much impossible to give an example without giving away the names). Created fake guilds to mirror our guild's name or directly attack him and proceeded to follow us EVERYWHERE. Mainly while we play WvW (they're on the same server as us) but would often pop up in PvE as well. The usual siege throwing, teabagging and all that jazz happened as well.

My friend just kept on ignoring them but it was bothering me and our other friend who actually streams (mentioning this since he's partnered with Anet and it's been happening on his stream that whole time) So I chimed in, defended us and told them to fuck off. Now their attention turned to me. And they just kept on doing that stuff to me then. They went as far as harassing me on Twitch with multiple accounts and that's where they were mainly verbally harassing me as after the first few days I just blocked them ingame. One of them even wrote me a long hate mail haha.

Support literally told me to report them under every option possible at some point... They really should have an option for harassment, with this experience it showed me it's vastly different than verbal abuse and absolutely unacceptable behavior.

This stuff happened around March/May and I just ended up stopping playing the game. I couldn't hangout with my friend without them starting shit with me and at the end of May Overwatch released so I just stopped trying to get anything done from support.

[–]MirelesMireles Lore.5942 [XHSA] Yaks Bend 32ポイント33ポイント  (11子コメント)

You need to submit a ticket, include the persons account name. Take screen shots of the abuse and include a time window.

If you have him blocked he is probably using another account or other people to find you. Block anyone on your followers list.

Hopefully ArenaNet will take action and start banning his accounts.

[–]Mysticbane 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

Actually, if you add someone to your friends list and they block you you can STILL see which zone they are in.

[–]RomoSSJ5[🍰] 28ポイント29ポイント  (5子コメント)

Which shouldn't be a thing...

Also even if you appear offline, people can still see you through yellow dot on the map if they're part of your guild.

Anet should really update the privacy statuses on the game itself and how followers/blocked people can see things about us.

Option to log in appearing invisible would also be appreciated.

[–]SheenaMalfoy.8079 Thalia Bloomfurrow 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you log out invisible does it stay that way when you get back in? I've never tried it.

[–]KuyaJohnny 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes it does. You stay invisible until you change it back

[–]RomoSSJ5[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes u do.

[–]Petikk 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also even if you appear offline, people can still see you through yellow dot on the map if they're part of your guild.

Oh so that's how I was found. Fuck me, this annoyed me so much, I complained about this on reddit nearly 2 years ago where I made a post asking for advice on an old account. They literally do not care about this stuff.

[–]RomoSSJ5[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can also represent another guild. Preferably your personal bank guild that nobody is in and you disappear from the map.

[–]VarorsonKonig Des Todes.2086 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure they fixed this issue nearly a year ago now.

[–]YdrinnBreitlund[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thank you, and thank you to everyone for the kind replies. I'll do this as soon as I get home.

[–]cylonapplepie 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you got any screenshots of interaction attempts from this person, go send these along with that guy account name in ticket to support and ask if they can change your account name (and either buy directly or start saving for character name change if they won't give you way to do that too). For me, that should be reason enough to help you in such way.

[–]VarorsonKonig Des Todes.2086 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Changing account names may not work - old friends list may still have the account but under a new name. It's possible the stalker would just see the old character names with a new account name. Their account name change system is rather buggy.

[–]ProHealsMichael Henninger 30ポイント31ポイント  (5子コメント)

/u/YdrinnBreitlund Shoot me your ticket number. DM or public is fine.

[–]howellqHowell - Piken (EU) @thisishowellq 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm kind of confused, the post is tagged with dev response, but your response doesn't show up in /r/gw2devtrack/ and you don't have an arena icon.

/u/Xyooz /u/RandommUser ??

[–]XyoozI fix thingies 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Only people with the ArenaNet tag/flair are tracked by /r/gw2devtrack. /u/ProHeals lost his tag for some reasons, he was once tracked in /r/gw2devtrack: https://www.reddit.com/r/gw2devtrack/search?q=proheals&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

Further digging around shows that this was because he changed his GM name: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/403fr2/hey_guys_im_changing_my_gm_name/

/u/ProHeals wanted to use the account /u/ANetCSLead for work-related stuff on reddit (as said in the thread).

[–]redicheCreator of GW2.Ninja [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I feel like there's some Pro Heals incoming now.

[–]AhrinaVioffa 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

i would unblock them and gather screenshots of their post and send it off to support.

[–]Dakeru [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Hello Everyone! This is the evil stalker. While I welcome your willingness to protect someone who is asking for help you are forgetting that this is a forum and anyone can just post anything, so I feel it's fair if you listen to my side of the story first before making a judgement. I have never been part of the guild of this person or anything else for that matter. I noticed him for the first time between the Christmas event 2014 and .. it may have been the New Year's event since I remember we were in Divinity's Reach.. However the person was always asking for items in a similar manner: "I just need XX more of <random T6 Material> to finish my Legendary please help me to finish!" At that point I started to call him out on this bullshit especially since it was obvious that this was a new account (remember the 75% discount for GW2 that they gave before HoT came?) with merely 200AP obviously only used for begging. The begging went on with various female names which apparently helps to bait naive men to hand over their items to the Damsel in Distress. The thing went on even until today when he made this thread and someone on GW2 pointed me to it.

So talk is cheap so why would you believe me? I digged through old screenshots but couldn't find my best ones - I did however find some online from February 2015 which I had uploaded when the guy started to threaten me to hack me or get me banned for ruining his profit: https://abload.de/img/gw052i2qsz.jpg https://abload.de/img/gw056x5kbp.jpg https://abload.de/img/gw066o7stz.jpg https://abload.de/img/gw0742jsrf.jpg https://abload.de/img/gw075nbur5.jpg

[–]FauxGw2[SL] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Welp after seeing the Pictures and Watching my wife make a new account and then myself making a new account I can say this, you dont stay at 234 AP for more than 5min. Upvote b.c people need to see this.

[–]shigii [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Upvoting for visibility.

[–]Napuu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

https://i.imgur.com/0hQyd5Lh.jpg

[–]Hrafhildr [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What a cluster. I'm sure A.net will sort it out.

[–]IgneousWrathRebuild Rata Novus 2016 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If this were EVE Online, imagine the wars that could start out of this!

What a good and profitable day for the mercs it would be.

[–]HammerhandleHank Hammerhandle [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Gah, you just crashed the pitchfork futures market.

[–]Julliant [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Probably not important, but I have seen that exact message of begging for T6 blood and scales before, was either LA or South sun.

Take that as you will.

[–]AstralProjections77 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

How do you know that the OP is the same guy as on your screenshot?

[–]EmperorSorgivaEve [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah that's what I'm wondering too. I don't see anything that links the two together.

[–]Carilyra [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

OP doesn't sound like the nicest of persons based on their comment history:

"Why not? It's a made up game. The lore is just a bunch of geeks making stuff up."

[–]Servel85 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

just for clarification - YOU find a person (not really care if man or woman) who beg for t6 material in map chat...and you start following that person and trying to screw his/her game for god know how long, making sure he/she is kicked from guilds? Or its that part of his/her part of story not true? Becouse if yes.. WHAT THE HELL person you actually are? Its different to make fun from someone who are begging on map chat and going full out crazy vigilanty

[–]Julliant [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I have never been part of the guild of this person or anything else for that matter.

Not that we know the truth, but he refutes it right there.

[–]eschezhivet 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

Verbal abuse seems like an accurate if inadequate description of this kind of behavior. Can he still find you if you make sure you stay invisible/status "offline"?

[–]YdrinnBreitlund[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

He can't find me but then nobody can whisper me at all including the few friends I have in the game.. and as soon as I appear online again he sees where I am and moves to my zone. :(

[–]eschezhivet 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. It honestly seems pretty strange and unreasonable that blocking someone doesn't prevent them from literally using the in-game tools as a way to stalk you.

[–]kwaje 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't hide from him. Let him come. Let him see who you're hanging out with. Play as you would usually and let him spout shit in mapchat or whisper your friends and let people insult you. Let them do that, while you gather screenshots and send it all to game support. Remember to add exact time, in-game location, and their account names.

[–]ReadySetHealHeadbomb.5067 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can still mail you and you can whisper to them. Not the perfect solution, buy hey, that's something.

[–]Hoewhoew 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know it's not an ideal solution, but it might be a temporary thing you could do (until it gets sorted out with support, hopefully). But if your friends aren't doing dungeons or fractals at the time you're playing, you could go on invisible and go in a party with them to chat?

I do hope it gets sorted out quickly tho, behaviour like this is unacceptable and for many GW2 (or other games) are their sanctuary to escape these things.

[–]Mysticbane 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's totally bizarre that ANet would allow you to see where someone is in the game even if they have blocked you. What on Earth were they thinking?

[–]Petikk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had this problem 2 years ago, I can't see them caring enough to change it.

[–]thefinalturnip [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well thanks to that weird design flaw OP was able to figure out just how in fact was causing them so much trouble and is able to report the person.

[–]kwaje 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had something very similar happen to me some time ago. It was very upsetting, got me kicked from a guild and cost me some people I thought were friends, but I learned something from it.

Gather all the proof you can, including screenshots of the guy slandering you in mapchat, of anyone calling you names or telling you to kill yourself - append each one with the exact server time, location, and names. When you contact support, make sure you focus on the fact that this has gone beyond just that one guy, because he's dragging others into it and it's affecting your gaming. Know that someone simply calling you a bad name won't get Anet to do anything, there has to be more to it than that. Blocking people seems to be their go-to solution for cases like this, but you can't block every random person out there, so focus on that.

Also, support will not go digging for old chat logs to see if you're right - you have to provide the screenies/videos yourself. Him lying about you is not likely to get a reaction either; it has to be direct insults.

Lastly, update your support ticket FOREVER. Be polite, but explain how they misunderstood your previous mail or how their suggestion didn't solve anything. The first few replies will be auto bots (this is the exasperating part), then someone will simply suggest that you block the guy (here you will wonder if they've even read your ticket), so keep updating till you get a resolution. If there is no reply after 3 days, post to the relevant official thread for unresolved tickets.

In my case, it took a really long time and an intervention from Gaile Gray (<3) to finally stop my stalker. I hope you win this! gl

[–]abysiah 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

File a support ticket.

[–]FirePositionEventually, everyone will serve the dragons 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel like there should be a way to remove someone from "following you" in his/her friendlist. It feels so wrong that someone can tag you as friend and can follow your every move without you being able to do something about it. If you block someone, they should be removed from the "following you" list and be unable to have you in their friend list imo.

[–]isairr [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The whole follower thing should be removed or need a consent from person you want to follow or add as friend. Until you accept they should not be able to get any information like if you are online, what character you play and where. Blocking someone should cut all ties with blocked person so they can't interact with you and know anything about you. GW2 has one of the most frustrating friend list I have ever seen.

[–]NyuScarletAngie.1503 - A Wurm Is A Wurm [HELP] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry you had to leave your guild "to avoid drama". I would expect friends to support you when shit happens, not advise you to leave to avoid drama.

I hope there's something that can be done and you find peace again.

[–]Bluminati 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sadly, the best way we can help as a community is to upvote for visibility and hope a dev contacts you directly.

Anet. There really needs to be a "only people i have added to my friends list can contact me" check box option which works along side the original online, away, invisible options. This system is already partly in place for f2p accounts. If ya know what I mean.

Edit: This option should include a "only show my locations to friends I've added" as well. Because people can still add you (even if they are blocked) and find your location.

Yeah... Stalkers are creepy AF.

[–]Bosun_Tom 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Report this person, with as many details as you have about what happened and when.

[–]adozu[EVC] shrub 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

sad as it is i've heard similar stories plenty of times, not to this level however. for once i hope someone from aNet sees this.

[–]ChibiLlamaᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure how much help I could be, but if you ever want/need someone to screenshot his crap for you (so you don't have to see it), you can message me in game at any time. I'll party with you and hang out on whatever map you're on. If he starts posting crap, I can screenshot and report him for the harassment too. Just because he isn't harassing me directly, doesn't mean that I can't report him.

PM me if you're interested. I'll send you my account name (I don't want to post it here to avoid possible spam from others, no offense folks)

[–]Shadelang 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had a similar situation. Someone I got into a conflict with in pvp set out to harrass me pretty much every time he saw me for a couple months after. He would send me mail,whipser spam as well as purposely stop playing in any pvp match I was also present in just to prevent me and more importantly those around me from playing. He desired entirely to make sure that I didn't have any fun and that others wouldn't want to be around me (as his actions would drag them into it).

I eventually made an out of game report and an A-Net employee got back with me pretty soon. I gave them the info they asked for and I havn't had any in game issues with him sense.

He continued to harass me through the comment section of a youtube video I made but I think he got bored of THAT pretty quickly as that didn't last more than a couple hours. I also didn't bother making any more public gw2 videos as I realized it would likely just cause him to act up again.

In this end an out of game report would probably be your best bet to get a more in depth look at the situation. I know anet likely does there best with the in game report systems. But an out of game one is more likely to get a response that you can see yourself so you know for certain something is being done.

They probably wont tell you WHAT they decide to do or how. But they will almost definitely look at the issue. If hes in violation (and it sounds like he is) it is likely they will do something.

However. If there are any parts of the story you HAVN'T told us here on reddit. Keep in mind that the person looking at it is going to see that part of the story as well.

[–]Sunlight-Heart 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

And people wonder why some players prefer to solo in an MMO game.

[–]EchoFalls27girlgamerchronicles.com 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wt actual f. Your guild leader should have hooted him from the guild. Not ask you to leave it. Geez

[–]poisonedsodapopKarina Celestialus 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sounds like this stalker makes convincing arguments. Not saying I agree but they may have "warned" the leader who was worried about his/her overall guild and made the decision.

[–]HidingCat 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pyschopaths can be very persuasive.

[–]poisonedsodapopKarina Celestialus 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've had my own in-game stalker who was the most two-faced liar. I don't think all of his lies were believed but he really tried hard to manipulate situations and look like he was the victim. Pretty sure OP's stalker did similar.

[–]VarorsonKonig Des Todes.2086 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've been in a guild back in GW1 where I was around longer and got along with most folks, but someone joined and started causing troubles for and around me. In the end, I was forced to leave and I was called an "egotistical asshole" among worse things. Some guildies even found me in-game later randomly and taunted me with those same (sometimes lesser) insults.

So this isn't too surprising for me that the guild leader asked the wrong person to leave.

In my case, the person causing trouble was buddying up to the guild leader, so I'm sure that was the reason they chose to out me instead.

[–]hi_im_eros 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the hell...I really have no idea to be honest. Let's hope this gets boosted until someone higher up can help you out? I'm really sorry, this is messed up.

[–]Kupper 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I would use the in game system for reporting, I would also send a ticket directly to support.

[–]Kaandrowl 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just like some people suggested, make sure you send a Supportticket. Add as many Details as you can, most important times, so they can look into it faster and easier. That is an incredible disgusting behaviour and i hope Support can get rid of him ingame.

I'll wish you best of luck that this is solved and keep strong.

[–]poisonedsodapopKarina Celestialus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder if I know who this is. Could you actually pm me their name? Not planning to shame just want to know if I can help.

I had someone stalking a whole guild after some passive-aggressive ranting followed by a dramatic exit from the guild. This person lied about EVERYTHING, even posting on the official forum that a whole guild was harassing them. It was very hard to pull off but they eventually got banned for their actions for a short time. There's no easy way to deal with stalkers via in game report system.

[–]Kuroi- 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

At least you didn't add him on Facebook lol, otherwise he would be outside your house.

[–]JkTyrantExalted Legend 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unblock, report, get that creepy fuck perma-banned.

[–]Fury0fBalthazar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've heard of this happening to more people than I would like to admit. I'd suggest starting a screen-shot album and make sure to include server time-stamps. If it's a consistent enough activity ArenaNet should act. They really need to crack down on this sort of activity and accept that their blocking mechanism is part of the problem.

[–]THADDEUSJARVISThadjarvis - JQ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's not much more I can add that others haven't already said, support ticket would be your best bet, although there's no telling when it'll get answered. FWIW, sorry for what you're going through; it's a shame that people are so responsive to what seems like an obvious witch hunt on his part. If I was mapping at the same time, he'd be one of the first people I block so that I don't have to deal with pointless map spam.

Keep your head up; despite it being a rough patch now, it'll get better. It sucks that your guild didn't take your side, but pointless map spam and whispers are just that; pointless. Block the people who are being idiots, embrace your friends, and map like crazy!

PS: You're probably being very careful about who you interact with now, but if you need someone to game with/rant at, feel free to shoot me a PM on reddit for my account name if you want.

[–]matt_i907 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This needs attention. I can't add something that hasn't been said already.

Best of luck getting rid of the stalker.. :|

[–]Illusionary_Mursaat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi, I'm so sorry for what has happened. And if you're on EU server feel free to mail me in game and you're more than welcome to join our guild. No one is gonna harass you or blame you of anything. I hope that that person gets what he deserves. My ign is Flaming Phoenix.9164

[–]FizzmatixCraftineer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a shitbag. I'd unblock them and then screenshot everything they do and say to you. From there, if they're contacting people you know have them do the same and contact support about this situation.

[–]CloakedBartender 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand that the stalker might have been able to trick your former guildleader into believing him over you, people who display that kind of behaviour are generaly great manipulators. I however do not understand why people that do not know you at all would let themselves be persuaded by a random guy to start sending you hateful comments. Your stalker is displaying some horrible behaviour and should undoubtedly receive a big punishment for that, but those people that join in are not free of guilt either.

I just hope that seeing what this can do to a person might teach people to think twice before they believe a random guy in map chat.

[–]PetrillssI salvaged 18 eternitys pre wardrobe 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The scary thing is, if they see this post they will probably want to stalk you even more

[–]jlaweezBoom shakalaka Bleed! [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

which shouldn't make anyone afraid of telling the story even so. If they read, they now know that a Dev from Customer Support is in charge and checking.

[–]CoconutRacecarDiamond 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The last time someone tried to stalk me, I stalked them back in a much more creepy, aggressive way. Asking them things like "why do you leave your window open when you shower" and "hey I saw you ate Froot Loops today, I love those too." Of course I wasn't actually following them IRL but I was in game and out-creeping them when they tried to say something weird to me. At one point he told me he loved that I was a "chocolate girl" and I told him I could squeeze as much chocolate out of me on to his face as he wanted if he fed me enough Mexican food.

Needless to say, he quit stalking me after only a day or two.

Of course this kind of thing wouldn't always work, sometimes you can't out creep people because they're literally fucking psychopaths. But if you have a dark sense of humor sometimes you can freak them out and make them have second thoughts about dedicating all their time to following you.

[–]xtagtv 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

how can I report someone like this?

By making a reddit thread like you've just done. It is the best way to get Anet to pay attention to your problem. I seriously doubt they even look at those verbal abuse reports. So just wait around for someone with an Anet flair to respond and help you out. If they don't respond here you can try making a thread on the official forums, but they are more likely to respond on reddit.

edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4sndmo/dealing_with_stalkers/d5as8ns

This guy is a gm, he doesnt have an arena net icon, but he can help you out.

[–]Jaxkr [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Was browsing my mmo multireddit and thought this was talking about dealing with the Wildstar Stalker class in PVP.

But it was worse. :( sorry.

[–]VacuumViolator 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's messed up

[–]BearSeekSeekLest 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thought you might be talking about Mordrem Guard Stalkers but I guess not

[–]Big_JarKomson - DB 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Paging u/chriscleary

EDIT: Let hope he can can a minute to stop in to check this out and help as well. No one needs to tolerate this.

[–]Naqaj_Aurora Glade 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You might wanna add why you're paging him, so it doesn't appear like a random namedrop in his inbox.

[–]Big_JarKomson - DB 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good Point.

[–]EwindalThe Dragonward -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

He'll see the thread name, though.

[–]niknieuwenhuis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just contact support and tell them your story.

[–]serow081reddit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't have any practical advice, just well wishes and hope you can resolve this soon.

[–]Hrafhildr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really hope A.net can help you out. Like others have said, contact support with his account name, they will be able to see for themselves what he's doing and put a stop to it.

[–]Qweeerty 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

open a ticket with support

[–]HidingCat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone has suggested you send a ticket to support, and I agree. All the best, hope you resolve this swiftly!

[–]eradicator-Bork bork bork 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Block, report for "botting" (Anet has said something "if there is no right option in report list, select "botting"" afaik), disable map chat and create your own guild or do not join any guilds.

I have once posted a ticket for similar thing (not as bad situation as yours), but Anet support just replied "we cannot do anything with in-game player interactions".

[–]kwaje 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anet support just replied "we cannot do anything with in-game player interactions".

This is what infuriated me too in my case. Someone obviously slandering you, getting you kicked from guilds, lying, harassing, getting people you used to play with to block you... "sorry, we can't do anything unless he calls you a bad word."

[–]SentinelShortfuse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hope Anet bans this chump.

[–]trublood 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, report under verbal abuse. Report every single message, the second you see it. Don't read them, just report. Take screenshots too, and save them to your computer, and maybe to Google Drive or some other cloud service too.

If you have Facebook and Twitter, you should tweet and message Anet about this. They don't want people getting harassed in their game.

Whisper me in the game if you want. My main is Myqqa.

[–]Sublimatioostop world necrophobia [rT] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

WHAT THE FUCK how can someone be bored like this? he has some serious issues. ps. asking for facebook etc can be normal, i do this sometimes, so it's not creepy yet. or is it? xd

[–]manhugs 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it's a little creepy depending on how old you were before social media proliferation was a thing. That said, continuing to ask after being told no definitely is.

[–]Sublimatioostop world necrophobia [rT] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

of course.

[–]Petikk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think they do anything but I've had a similar problem before, though not as extreme.

If anyone has any tips on how to avoid someone you don't want to be around but don't exactly hate I'm all ears.

[–]Silverbleed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is really bizarre, and I'm sorry you got into this situation. Like everyone else suggested, a ticket with all evidence is probably your best bet.

This is also one of the reasons I feel Anet should fix the block list, followers list and playing invisible. And have an harassment report available. I get too often messages about people being stalked or harassment and it freaks me out. I've had a similar situation of being stalked through maps and getting PM's with "I see you". Which was thankfully over within a week and never got worse than that, but it was scary already. Can't even imagine what you're going through.

Thank god you never added him on your Skype or FB.

[–]kitamoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey sorry this is happening. Had something similar happen to me before in another game and it just leeches all your enjojyment out.

What's probably happening is that he's made a F2P account and either blocked you or added you on that account's friendlist. Every time you aren't invisible he can find you.

If he's even more obsessed, he may have found a way to join your new guild under a F2P account and find you through it.

For me (in that other game), I pretty much had to cut off all ties and make a new account just to get rid of him when their support was unresponsive.

[–]Kamui_Shirou( La Hermandad ) Sorrow's Furnace 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was a terrible guild leader, i mean if you have proof that was a insta kick , ts ip ban and a small speech in the next event with the guild

[–]Azure_FlamesNero Angelo | Seraphim Order [Ankh] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Reddit header states there's been a dev. response. Can't find it though. :(

[–]Minitell 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We had something similar in our guild, we decided to kick the stalker dude. Pity your old guild that knew you would side with him over you, better off without em. Dunno about reporting, hopefully someone will notice this post and help you out.

[–]ph0enixXx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Switch to offense.

[–]The_Birch [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've had some issues with that as well in the game. Most of the time blocking them works but not always. The support ticket is a great way because you'll end up getting an email back so someone will actually respond to you instead of you just hitting report and hoping for the best. Good luck and if you need someone in your corner message me.

[–]wolfsrun [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

When you block a player they can still do the following:

  • See your online status
  • See what map you're on
  • Read your messages in chat channels

Blocking a player should do those things, IMO. It does in every other MMO I've played, as far as I can tell. :/ It's an issue that's really bothered me since I first encountered a similar situation as OP and I wish they'd do something about it already.

OP; Sorry you have to go through this. It sounds like the same person I know of who goes around harassing people. They literally come on every day and when they see certain people, they start talking shit in map chat. I'd report them for verbal abuse and save screenshots of any harassment they're giving you for future reference.

Also try to stay positive. Easier said than done but try to keep enjoying the game, explain the situation to your guild leader in private if you're worried about it affecting your status in your guild at all, and try not to let his comments/behaviour get to you. He's clearly sick in the head and has nothing better to do in his life than to follow someone around like this. >.<

[–]wrongkanji [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I know this has already been said and you've got a dev looking into it, but screencap everything always.

[–]sephis666 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I know this problem, my guild was destroyed and fell a part by ppl like this

[–]PuffinPineappleIt's hazy in here... [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Not sure why we needed to have this thread. I understand your concern, but I mean you literally have all the evidence to go ahead and submit a report on them. I really just don't understand why this is happening, it's obvious you should just report and block them. If it is taking to long, then contact support and have them escalate the issue. Seriously though, making an entire thread about it just brings it out into the open which said Stalker could use a fuel against you. Whatever though, good luck and hopefully he goes away.

[–]Auran_Alchemist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You didn't read the post did you? They specifically mentioned blocking the person but that they are still able to track the OP. Then you are also assuming that support bans the person or does something right away. In game tickets for verbal abuse hardly ever get replies so it's a fair attempt to look for a more direct issue when this is boarding harassment/assult and not just verbal abuse.

[–]iamnunna(づ￣ ³￣)づ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Happens also to me and I am a recluse player, I appear offline all the time with 0 friend list and tons of blocked people just because I don't like drama and I want to play the game and minding my own business without bothering anyone, but there is this one person who keeps harassing me with mails. I don't even know the person, he/she would just laugh at me and send me some annoying msgs, I report the behavior countless of time with a verbal abuse tag but nothing ever happen because he keeps online everyday on my block list .. so .. yeah .. hope yours get sorted because that is just straight up creepy.

[–]ubootakaivloss [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Hey mate, one tip for you - if you are NA player just transfer to eu server or otrher way around - surely he wont follow

[–]thefinalturnip [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Should PM me his name. I'd give him a taste of his own medicine... but that might get me banned instead. If this was the real world I'd sock him in the balls for you.

[–]demeyor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

make a new tab with no text, leave ur inbox full at all times and enjoy the silence, dont let any small dick annoy, the big ones are the one you should care about either way.

[–]akaraxy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As others have said, send an actual ticket to support. It's highly unlikely the in-game "Verbal Abuse" reports get looked at unless a high number of reports come in about the same user. Sending a ticket will (hopefully) mean an actual person will read it and take action.

[–]j0k0b3t [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Make screenshots, send a ticket to Anet.

Nasty business, hope you get it settled quickly.

[–]ChiorydaxChronicler of Lacrymosa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hopefully you have a good TS community where this kind of behavior will get him banned, rather than the mods just ignoring the issue.

I've dealt with toxic people trying to get back into my life, but not nearly on this scale. Best of luck, and I'm sorry this is happening to you.

[–]Lovaa -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Screen shot everything he say, and then send it to exploits@arena.net with the explanation about what happen in the past and whats happening now. Make sure to add time stamps to your chat and log what you can including the map movements. I am fairly sure A-Net will act if they get solid proof handed to them. They do not want to have this sort of players in their game.

[–]appletoast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not what that email is for, but submitting a support ticket is good advice.

[–]RakWar -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

This clearly falls under verbal abuse

The mods can go back and check his logs....i'm pretty sure that this person has a perma ban coming

If for some reason reporting doesn't work to get them banned...start taking screenshots of conversations for map chat abuse to report in the official forums with links to uploaded screenshots to give your story validity..it's one thing to whisper someone and say things..it's another to say them in map chat

Sad about the other guild...but if the guild leader was so anal and narrow minded to believe the abuser over you then fuck him,,,not worth being in that guild then

There are strange people on the internet with behavioural issues

Curious what the name of the original guild that you were in that believed the abuser over you???

thank you

Edit with all being said...there are 2 sides to a story...we heard your version but not the other