Totalbiscuit on Twitter: "If you're complaining that a PC is too hard to build then you probably shouldn't call your site Motherboard."

NameSmurfHere · 4時間前

Ham tweet is in response to this ridiculous article- PC Gaming Is Still Way Too Hard

Here's Motherboard's super simple guide to building your first gaming PC:

Step 1: Have an unreasonable amount of disposable income.

Step 2: Have an unreasonable amount of time to research, shop around, and assemble parts for your computer.

Step 3: Get used to the idea that this is something you're going to have to keep investing time and money in as long as you want to stay at the cutting edge or recommended specifications range for new PC games.

bingleshmink · 3時間前

There were some things about my build that were different from the guide, like my CPU Corsair Hydro Series H100i water cooling system, which, unlike a standard heatsink, doesn't require applying thermal paste.

Please, please someone tell me I'm reading this wrong.

DarkElfBard · 2時間前

She literally put that she didn't want to buy a pre-built computer because of markup, and then says everyone should buy an apple

Galiron49 · 4時間前

RIP motherboard

Remmes- · 2時間前

"because that's what was readily available on Amazon and all PC cases are ugly anyway"

Lol. That whole article is ridiculous. Seems written by someone that never seen a computer.

bigmaguro · 2時間前

Step 3: Get used to the idea that this is something you're going to have to keep investing time and money in as long as you want to stay at the cutting edge or recommended specifications range for new PC games.

r9 290 released Oct 2013

HerbertGWells · 4時間前

It made me laugh that the cowardly twat doesn't allow comments on his ill informed, poorly written "article".

EDIT: Just to be clear, I am talking about the article John is referencing, and not Johns Tweet.

/u/bredmor wrote a fantastic rebuttal, to be found here https://medium.com/@bredmor/pc-gaming-is-only-for-rich-obsessed-engineers-with-way-too-much-time-on-their-hands-2efa603ff1ed#.gwhs88ava

whitetrashpanda · 1時間前

That's why I recommend Apple products to people who aren't tech savvy.

A mention of Apple has no place in a discussion about gaming, ffs.

FogeltheVogel · 2時間前

Apple reduces friction to the point where even my mom could upgrade the RAM on her iMac

Since when can you upgrade an Apple?

AHeartOfGoal · 2時間前

This may be blasphemy, but honestly, if he was having that hard of a time putting the thing together you can have it assembled at Fry's or wherever for like 80 bucks. Whole thing assembled, cable management done and pretty (my favorite part) and a 90 day warranty that puts any screw ups on them. I had this done earlier this year as I constantly travel for work and don't really have the time to sit and make everything just the way I want it. Of course, moving forward, I will do all of my own upgrades.

He shouldn't be spiting all this hate just because it was hard FOR HIM. I mean, I paid of the convenience of it, but if he is struggling so hard with something so simple maybe he should just eat the extra 80 >_>

ravenouscraving · 1時間前

motherboard.vice.com

Oh, well that explains it.

xIcarus227 · 4時間前

Pure savagery.

QuietLittleVoice · 1時間前

all PC cases are ugly anyway.

oh god

That's why I recommend Apple products to people who aren't tech savvy. They just work. When I'm pushing a water cooler down on the CPU while twisting its radiator into place and screwing it into place at the same time, it becomes clear that PCs don't just work.

kill me, this guy just complains that PC parts are too expensive and his remedy is to buy apple products.

nelly676 · 1時間前

despite being a lifelong gamer i had no idea hwo to build my gaming computer.

All i did was find a check list for basic ingredients, made sure they were compatible with informations on the fucking box, and put it together. Took me maybe 2 hours?

real_mister · 3時間前

TB is freakkin savage. Doesn't forgive. Doesn't forget.

Zeichner · 3時間前

Why didn't this Emanuel just ask a friend or coworker to walk him through it? EVERYTHING is hard when you do it yourself for the first time.

Just ask a friend to sit down with you and walk you through the steps when putting the thing together. As soon as you've done it just once you'll realize that FEAR IS THE MINDKILLER and there's nothing actually hard or scary about about building a PC.

Which is why this article is singularly unhelpful: it tells people, who are already afraid to try, even more scary stories... fuck you, Emanuel.

kuddlesworth9419 · 3時間前

And you really don't need the highest end components to play games at max settings. Graphical fidelity hasn't changed at all in like 6 fuckign years. Crysis 1 still looks better then most current games and Crysis 3 still looks better then well everything.

I play everything I own at 2560x1440 with a 680 Classified just fine and that card is nearly 4 years old now. And when I built my PC I think i did the whole thing in 2 hours. That was removing the 680 from my old pc into my new case with new mobo and CPU. And it;s not like you can fuck anything up because things only fit if they are compatible. Don't force anything in to slots or connectors everything should just go in nicely. If you have a brain use it. Do a little research and ask some questions on Reddit. Anyone will help you out and give you good advice on here and no one will be a dick to you.

WTBMoney · 4時間前

Wow, who the fuck is brigading these comments with downvotes?

Bric3d · 2時間前

I think this video of LinusTechTip having his 3 years old build a PC is just the best to show how this is stupid.

Kedan · 1時間前

Jesus christ...

Step 1: Have an unreasonable amount of disposable income.

Used a 'high end' parts list on PC Gamer. i7 CPU. AIO CPU cooler. Expensive unnecessary ROG motherboard. 850W PSU for single GPU system (1070 is rated at 150W). 32GB RAM. Upgraded to a 1TB SSD.

Step 2: Have an unreasonable amount of time to research, shop around, and assemble parts for your computer.

Did no research, used a parts list. Did not shop around, ordered everything from Amazon so it would all arrive quickly. Spent a whole five hours putting the thing together which I think is pretty reasonable for a novice.

Step 3: Get used to the idea that this is something you're going to have to keep investing time and money in as long as you want to stay at the cutting edge or recommended specifications range for new PC games.

Just plain bullshit rhetoric that is repeated over and over again. He has a $2000 system here that will easily keep him over the 'recommended specs' for 3+ years, longer if he's at 1080p (which I guess he is, already had a monitor).

Praises everything about the build. Performance. Guides on the internet and YouTube videos. /r/buildapc, /r/pcgamer and the PC community. Then slates the whole process, calling it ("with some authority") a nightmare! It's like one guy started the article, then someone else looked at it and said "Why the fuck would you want to do that?" and wrote a completely different contradictory conclusion.

Poor. Really poor.

fogeltanz · 2時間前

I give zero respect to an article that has spelling mistakes in the first paragraph.

despite why the awfully self-titled "PC Master Race" might tell you.

What a joke of an article on a site called Motherboard

deefop · 2時間前

hahahahah what a whiny little bullshit article

oskar669 · 2時間前

This is infuriating. He complains about the price, but he has a fucking macbook. He orders separate parts instead of a complete system and then complains that he has to assemble the parts. And then he complains about the difficulty of assembling it, which is literally easier than Lego since with a PC every part only fits in the correct slot. And then he installs the OS on a physical harddrive in a "$2000" system in 2016!

The1WhoCsAll · 2時間前

Knowing computers is easy with the proper education. And educating one's self is easy given (1) internet access (2) free time (3) an interest in learning about it.

Anyone who pretends that building a computer makes you a genius either lacks one of the aforementioned three things OR is a cretin you shouldn't be speaking to anyway.

uncle_jessie · 2時間前

My brother works construction. One of the most computer illiterate people I know. He just built his first gaming computer a year ago. It's not that hard. If you can put the square peg in the square hole...you can build a computer.

Get-ADUser · 1時間前

Weird, I'm apparently blocked by him even though I've never interacted with him at all on Twitter.

OldTimePCGamer · 1時間前

SHHH! We don't want people to know how easy it actually is. Once they do, we can't make any money doing it. It's one of the easiest things I do for money because people think I'm a genius when I build one. I don't fleece people, but if they knew they could probably do it, I'd get fuck all. On the down-low people.

back_fire · 2時間前

TFW TB still slaying. This is literally an official declaration of peasantry. These beliefs have been debunked years ago.

NewMaxx · 2時間前

One of my best friends, who is possibly one of the most computer illiterate people in existence, decided to build a gaming computer last year. I always let him game on my secondary machine when we lived close but I had since moved far away and he missed the experience. I offered to build and ship it to him but he wanted to do it himself.

I helped him pick out the parts and organized all of the literature (e.g., manuals) and then sent him step-by-step photos of a build I had recently done. He printed all of that out and made a binder and then got to work. He managed to get it all together in one night but was wary about the wiring and such. We skyped for a few hours and I helped him get his cabling so nice you'd think he was an expert builder.

We turned it on and...perfection. No problems since, plenty of gaming under our belts with it. The only part of the process he really needed my help with was hardware selection, but I had showed him PCPartPicker and it automatically checks compatibility for you and he was able to just go down the list and with a budget managed to actually put together a machine that way (I then went through and made suggestions). I jokingly now say that PC building is "so easy a his name can do it."

tl;dr My friend who could barely install WinAMP built a bad-ass gaming machine with one site, some research, and a bit of patience.

lolly_lolightly · 2時間前

Forget prebuilts, a webstore like NCIX will assemble your purchased parts for $50CAD.

soratoyuki · 1時間前

I just read the article and the only three pieces of information I got were "Building a PC is expensive, because I decided not to shop around, researching what parts is hard, except I got other people to happily do it for me, and building a PC is difficult, except it was actually really easy and with a ton of free resources."

So, um... +1 for PCMR?

ChubbyPencil · 1時間前

My 14 yr old brother just built his first pc after getting the money from mowing lawns this summer. It really is as simple as being able to follow a YouTube video.

beericane · 30分前

I'll play devil's advocate here, (I love PC gaming, for the record).

Simply put, building a PC isn't "nothing" like buying a console is "nothing".

Buying and building a PC is easy. Deciding what to buy and build can be a nightmare for people.

Research is usually a requirement unless you trust a "just buy this" kind of guide (which there are some fantastic ones out there, absolutely). Maybe some people are cool with that, but most people dropping good money on something they don't know much about usually likes looking into things a bit deeper first.

And the problem with PC's has and always be that the rabbit hole of research is HUGE if you allow yourself to fall down it. You think you are looking up processor reviews and next thing you know you are knee-deep in clocks and cores and threading and versions and comparisons.

I built a few PC's for friends and family recently and I must have spent a few hours on each one in just research - and I used to build the damn things for a living.

The sheer number of processors out there, for example, is nuts and comparing one to another can be ridiculous: "this one is newer but slower, this one is older but faster, these two were released at about the same time and score about the same except in special applications, etc..". Put two wildly differently priced units on a comparison site and you see there is like a .2 point difference in overall score. Then you read the descriptions and they appear identical. It doesn't make sense unless you are "in the know" on processor tech.

Then there's all the other components with a gigantic array of prices and purposes. Is $20 RAM good enough or should I spring for $150 RAM? This hard drive gets good reviews but a hell of a lot of people complain about it dying on them. Which motherboard do I need? What case do I want? Will they fit together? Will my parts all fit into that sized mobo?

So you get your big list of parts and..... half of them are out of stock (I'm in Canada, Amazon sucks here and the best local stores have spotty and ever-changing inventory levels). Back to the drawing board. It's enough to drive a person to drink.

Don't get me wrong - PC gaming is awesome and you really can't buy better than a PC when it comes to flexibility and performance but it's by no mean "easy" unless you just throw your hands in the air and trust a PC gaming build guide (and can find the parts).

ProbablyRuvan · 2時間前

Personally I feel that Motherboard do have a point. PCMR tend to be quite technical people and seem to forget that a lot of people don't have the slightest clue how a computer works and many were educated before it was on the school curriculum.

It takes some time and effort to understand what all the jargons means, what all the components do and which component is more important for performance. Where does your average person even find good up-to-date information on these things?

Even if you understand the basics of what the components do, you then have to wade through all the brand specific jargon AND know where to get GOOD reviews/benchmarks.

Expense is all subjective and you can't really criticise someone for saying something is expensive.

The assembly is not hard if you have the knowledge and/or a decent video, however, I think the point they're trying to make is it could be A LOT easier. There's no reason why it couldn't be like Lego in this day and age.

In my opinion, the manufacturers are purposefully making it harder and more obscure than it needs to be to drive sales. They can charge you for labour for computer assembly, for example. It makes less technical people much more inclined to upgrade their entire PC when it's starting to slow down, rather than just shove a new graphics card or a bit more RAM in, for example.

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