(cache) George Bush just gave an amazing speech at the Dallas memorial for fallen officers. Unlike Obama's speech today, he had no political agenda, no cheap humor, and aimed to invoke a great sense of pride and honor in the officers this country lost. : Conservative

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From another site re: Dubya dancing and showing disrespect.

Today in Dallas, the city held a memorial service for the five officers killed by Micah Johnson last week. The service was attended by Barack and Michelle Obama, among others. It was, as you would expect, a somber affair for everyone—everyone except George W. Bush, who was ready to party.

The video captures a choir’s rendition of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.” You’ll notice that everyone onstage is bowing their heads respectfully—everyone except George W. Bush, wearing a royal blue suit, who bopped along quasi-maniacally like the one person at a music festival set who clearly took too many drugs. Clasping his hand in quiet but abject horror is Michelle Obama, bless her soul.

Did George W. Bush... know where he was?

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My bad for assuming you heard it I guess? It wasn't a surprise to me he was passive/aggressive in his remembrance as he always is. He can't just mourn the loss without trying to assign blame to other situations that are unresolved? What if the MN or LA cops are found to be justified? Will he retract his connecting of that to this if so?

To me, his invocation of the two shootings unrelated to this gives power to those seeking to justify the sniper's motives. He tried to draw an equivalency to the innocent dead cops and the dead(maybe justified, maybe not) men in MN and LA. He attempted to assign blame to "all of us." Think those families wanted a lecture while they were mourning their loved ones?

Non-black people are shot by police too. He never stands up for them when assigning blame to police. Only when they're black. This wasn't the first time he's done this either. Today's speech was one thing. Placing it in context with all the others establishes a pattern. Never let a crisis go to waste.

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Too bad he had to be caught up in Iraq. Despite the goofiness he managed more unity and maturity under every crisis that happened under his watch than Obama has shown. I have no doubt that his speeches post various recent terror attacks and racial tensions would do their purpose of lessening the division they created instead of increasing it.

Obama can't help himself from being partisan or making smart ass remarks about others and wondering why they won't work with him.

I always thought of it like this. Bush acted like president of the united states. A very flawed president, who made many tragic blunders. But still president. Whether you were a liberal from Oregon, a hippie from California a socialist from Vermont, a libertarian from Texas, or an evangelical from Alabama. He knew he couldn't just dismiss you being part of the country or pretend you were his enemy. Obama views himself and acts like he's president of the liberals. He is against you if you are too much t his left or right and will intentionally and needlessly antagonize, insult, and rile up his "enemies".

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W. made sure not to go after Muslims in any of his speeches. That's something a lot of the candidates lacked maturity to do. If someone more radical and partisanned than him took office the hate crimes against that community would have been even worse. Trump would probably have brought up the celebrating Muslims he apparently saw in his post 9/11 speech. That would have been disastrous.

While Obama has the similarly problem but he pushes his agenda against gun owners, police, conservatives. There was no reason for him to try to push his politics at the memorial. He should be smart enough to not fan the flames of racial tensions as well.

Clearly I don't agree with the Bush foreign policy (or american foreign policy post Eisenhower) but I can appreciate the more positive aspects of his demeanor. His calls for unity is a big one.

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I don't disagree with you on W's avoidance of blaming Muslims. I think that was probably due to his own religious beliefs and close relationships his Muslim buddies. But either way he did a good job of not inciting violence. That doesn't mean he was "everyone's" president.

I watched Obama begin "negotiations" with center stances on policy and then not move any further right ie health care where liberals who voted for him wanted single payer and conservatives had been pushing for a health care market place for years. For some reason he was seen as an uncompromising dictator for pushing through deal that was more republican than democrat.

While I disagree with Obama on gun control ( among other things) I do see him trying to make a compromise between ideologies. A huge portion of the left just want guns gone. Period. They don't know or care to know the difference between semi auto or fully automatic firearm. They don't understand how legal gun owners think. Obama is starting his "negotiation" way further to the right than his base would like.

Again I don't agree with any gun legislation other than universal background checks, but when else should the he talk about an issue that he and his base feel strongly about if not when that issue is at center stage.

People are praising Bush who got us to engage in insanely costly and destabilizing wars with speeches of ambiguous us vs them Cheerleading, but criticizing Obama for being specific.

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Bush led us through 3 catastrophic attacks on our homeland: an act of terror, an act of God, and an economic collapse.

In all three cases he had the support of none save those he appointed. Not the press, not the Democrats and hardly the Republicans. He stood alone at the helm of the American ship during storms everyone thought would end us.

And though he lost 4486 in Iraq, he only lost 4486 in those 5 years. That puts him among the most successful commanders in history in terms of troop loss -- if you were able to ask any dead Soldier from any age what commander he would choose to serve under, they would to a man say Bush because in all likelihood they would not die again. For perspective, the British lost 19,240 on the first day of the Somme. In 141 days they lost 481,842.

You couldn't be more wrong about Bush. He was our greatest leader in three of our greatest times of need.

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I used to agree with this sentiment.

But when you look at the result and realize it's worse than the status quo ante, and realize how our decisions actually created this worse scenario, with ISIS and Syria and everything else, I just don't think this position holds up to scrutiny any more.

It seemed like a good idea at the time, but just because ideally something would be done, doesn't mean you can actually pull it off. The only way the Middle East is going to improve is if the West steps back and lets them. All our interventions just screw it up further and make them hate us even more, making us a bigger target for terrorism.

We just can't run the world. Why would people who realize that the government constantly screws everything up with bloated bureaucracy, inefficiency, political motives of personal advancement, and lack of understanding of problems, believe that when we project that power abroad that it won't do the same thing?

It does the same thing, and worse, since we understand the language and culture in these other places so much worse. It's Big Government run amok.

It's good that our military is robust and we have a presence around the world to maintain order. But they should be used for sharp quick actions when it's absolutely necessary, not to go on prolonged nation-building exercises where we just decide it's time to blast away the entire power structure of a nation and then replace it just because we think we can do better.

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There has been discussion of this elsewhere. It is not that he should not have spoken, but that there was little hope nor comfort in that speech. It did not invite us to honor these officers.

Imagine if he had said something about how "we have leadership here is Dallas that has faced the test of racism and bias well. In the coming days let us look to Dallas to show how to be one people." ...do you see how that is totally uplifting as opposed to his words "In the end, it’s not about finding policies that work. It’s about forging consensus and fighting cynicism and finding the will to make change" ...?

For a guy who campaigned on "hope and change," he seems to have run of the one and doesn't know how to encourage positive things in the other. Without following you over the top with "cops are amazing" it is time to show how much racism has faded (no, it is not gone), and put some thought into who should lead us into unity. That is the speech that would have continued the feeling of solidarity that he spoke of, by offering a purpose to those who were there to do more once they have given full honor to their heroes. No posturing. No rhetoric. No empty words.

Do you like this answer? Can you imagine Obama powering through these few thoughts, bringing them to life? I wish he had offered us that hope and the dead their time.