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Social Justice Drama...? idkThe Ghostbusters (2016) review embargo has lifted meaning you don't have to wait until you go to the movies to enjoy a bag of popcorn. (self.SubredditDrama)

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So if you haven't heard, there's a new Ghostbusters. And it's been quite controversial to say the least.

The movie is set to be released to the general public on July 15th in the U.S., but reviewers have already had the opportunity to watch and rate the movie. The embargo date for which they were required to wait until posting their reviews has just lifted and you can take a look at a summary of the reviews over in the /r/movies megathread here.

Here's some of the drama I've found so far:

OP posts a thread accusing the "industry trollbots" of spamming /r/movies, one user chimes in but is he a Sony shill?

Drama over Paul Feig's talent and if directing is simple

Some drama over if the movie is 'injecting feminism' and if it's a cash-grab

Slapfight over whether or not audience reviews are more trust-worthy than critic reviews

Are the positive reviewers politically biased?

One user who saw the movie states that his childhood was ruined after seeing it, should he 'grow up?'

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[–]rudhira_kali_caThe right to shitpost is in the Geneva Convention 671ポイント672ポイント  (97子コメント)

Hes actually a very successful writer, director, and producer now.

In your opinion?

His movies make money and are popular. Thats successful.

His 1 movie so far that has been successful is because it fooled people into seeing it. They thought, 'Jason Statham in Spy?' alright this worth watching. Then you realize how bad the movie is and wonder what the fuck happened.

Bridesmaids and the heat...

Neither are his movies.

He directed both.

I'm aware of that.

Then you would understand that his movies have been highly successful

those arent his movies. His works as of right now are 'i am david', freaks and geeks, and spy.

You can only find this level of density elsewhere in the universe in a neutron star.

[–]KingOfRages 103ポイント104ポイント  (2子コメント)

reminds me of ManRay trying give Patrick his wallet.

[–]FartingWhooper 110ポイント111ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is exactly what I thought!

Excuse me, sir, but I do believe you've dropped your wallet.

Doesn't look familiar to me.

What? I just saw you drop it. Here.

Nope, it's not mine.

It is yours. I am trying to be a good person and return it to you.

Return what to who?

Aren't you, Patrick Star?

Yup.

And this is your ID.

Yup.

I found this ID in this wallet. And if that's the case, this must be your wallet.

That makes sense to me.

Then take it.

It's not my wallet.

YOU DIM-BULB! TAKE BACK YOUR WALLET OR I'LL RIP YOUR ARMS OFF!

[–]the92jays 365ポイント366ポイント  (38子コメント)

They thought, 'Jason Statham in Spy?' alright this worth watching. Then you realize how bad the movie is and wonder what the fuck happened.

lol Spy has a 94% fresh rating on RT with a 79% audience score

EDIT: this is peak /r/moviescirclejerk

[–]ReallyCreativeI make eggs better than you 99ポイント100ポイント  (12子コメント)

It came out at the same time as some other big movies iirc, so it went a little under the radar for what it deserved, but it was a fantastic parody of the genre.

[–]morrocc 54ポイント55ポイント  (4子コメント)

Tbh it was one of my favorite movies last year. I loved how it poked fun at how often McCarthy gets typecasted and turned her into one of the smartest characters in the story.

[–]ReallyCreativeI make eggs better than you 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes, that particular turning of the tables really silenced a lot of her critics that she was a one trick pony.

[–]BradBrains27 46ポイント47ポイント  (5子コメント)

Also with a trailer that made the movie look bad.

Paul needs to figure that out.

[–]whisperingmoon(◍•ᴗ•◍) 37ポイント38ポイント  (4子コメント)

If I recall, trailers are typically cut by the studio and not the director, limiting creative influence over them. That's typically the reason given when the trailer and the movie seem to be wildly out of step with each other.

[–]nearlyp 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. Paul needs to spend some time thinking about what he did.

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      [–]mattattaxx 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Obviously Hollywood shill critics who were paid big bucks to promote an agenda.

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        [–]KingOfSockPuppets 189ポイント190ポイント  (37子コメント)

        His 1 movie so far that has been successful is because it fooled people into seeing it. They thought, 'Jason Statham in Spy?' alright this worth watching. Then you realize how bad the movie is and wonder what the fuck happened.

        Joke's on them though because Jason Statham was amazing in Spy.

        [–]MarkOfSadism 107ポイント108ポイント  (30子コメント)

        it was an action comedy, right? Statham was born to play characters for that genre

        [–]KingOfSockPuppets 114ポイント115ポイント  (21子コメント)

        Pretty much, he spends most of the movie giving dramatic monologues about how hardcore of a spy he is which is just funny in general well as good meta humor (and he knows it) given that he's, well, Jason Statham. Case in point

        [–]iaglia 31ポイント32ポイント  (15子コメント)

        and then he's kind of a shit spy the entire movie

        [–]Slapdash17 111ポイント112ポイント  (3子コメント)

        I loved his character so much more once someone pointed out to me he's a gender-swapped Bond girl.

        Super attractive guy (in my opinion) is competent, but plays second fiddle to the main character, McCarthy. They hate each other at first and hate working together, and then they're in bed together in the last scene of the film.

        It's great, because his character is a bit absurd, but it just shows how absurd the Bond girl trope is.

        [–]Andrea_D 22ポイント23ポイント  (9子コメント)

        It's like someone made a live action movie about Sterling Archer, only without the alcoholism or PTSD.

        Edit: and where Pam is the main protag.

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          [–]roseburrow 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Spy is not really my kind of movie, but even I cracked up when he said he makes a point of doing things people say are impossible... like taking up piano at a later age.

          [–]Magooniea.k.a JOHN CENA 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Yeah, really loved the underground poison club monologue.

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            [–]zeeeeeraYou initiated a dialog under false pretenses. 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Absolutely loved him in Spy.

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                [–]MarkOfSadism 109ポイント110ポイント  (7子コメント)

                uhh if someone directs a movie, it is their movie. not theirs and theirs alone necessarily, but it's theirs.

                [–]clabberton 78ポイント79ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Yeah I wonder if this guy would argue that there are no Steven Spielberg movies.

                [–]mrpopenfresh 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Only the produced ones.

                [–]bramlet_abercrombie 42ポイント43ポイント  (4子コメント)

                but don't movies really belong to all of us ~~*~ *<3

                [–]ActualCryptid 59ポイント60ポイント  (1子コメント)

                No, the feminazis took them away when they killed the gamers and cucked us with SW:FA

                [–]cahutchins 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Low energy shill, everyone knows we were white male genocided by Mad Max: Fury Road long before The Force Awakens!

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                  [–]DocSwissKabal Wins! Fatality! 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  That guy's just being aggressively stupid. Either that, or he's trolling so hard he plans on moving in under a bridge.

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                    [–]MintyAnt 277ポイント278ポイント  (14子コメント)

                    Dude, this sibbo is killing it in the first link

                    I haven't been one this whole time. For the first half of the year I was working with Disney to kill BvS and boost up Civil War. Anytime I hear Bucky's words I create a new imdb account and give it a 10 then give BvS a 1

                    Is there good money in that? How do I get started?

                    Just praise Rogue One when the trailer comes out at the end of the week. Nod your head when you watch it on your phone in your living room, bring it up in general conversation, have a conversation with someone on the street about how cool Jyn Erso is. If you've got potential, they'll find you

                    [–]beary_good 59ポイント60ポイント  (5子コメント)

                    He's a regular on a sub I mod. Great dude.

                    [–]Sibbo94 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    So this is where you found out about my shilling.

                    [–]Sibbo94 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    I'm touched guys, this is just 6-12 months worth of thinking the movie will turn out alright and generally not saying anything because I don't need to be told why I'm wrong, a healthy dose of /r/moviescirclejerk upping my snark, not understanding why people put the tinfoil hats on assuming critics have been paid off and general hysterics that /r/movies and /r/ghostbusters are raging dumpster fires over this

                    [–]kurin 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Oooooh we're getting another Rogue One trailer?

                    [–]uni-twit 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Will we get to see Jyn Erso? S/he's so cool! (nods)

                    [–]Sibbo94 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    There's a fat stack of cash under your pillow. Good work!

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                      [–]reddituser208 71ポイント72ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Beautiful. RT score is Fresh among all critics and Rotten among top critics, so everyone can see the critical consensus they want to see.

                      [–]ApexTyrantDisciple of YungSnuggie 327ポイント328ポイント  (75子コメント)

                      I got an opportunity to watch the movie at one of the pre screenings in LA recently and all I can say is that I personally don't think the movie is any good. The special effects are terrible and Leslie Jones' character is essentially a stereotype. That being said its nowhere near as bad as people are screaming.

                      its ok to dislike this movie on cinematic grounds(bad sfx, casting, etc), but once you get to "spamming 6 page essays on the man hating theme to the internet" you've lost any real credibility with me.

                      [–]killerpi 223ポイント224ポイント  (58子コメント)

                      so its like robocop, total recall, and all remakes for the last 10 years.

                      [–]ApexTyrantDisciple of YungSnuggie 109ポイント110ポイント  (18子コメント)

                      Yeah, and if we're being honest my first thing I thought at the end of the movie was parts of it felt like they were meant to just barely give enough ammunition to the "SJW's ruined the movie" crowd(they have to shoot the final baddie essentially in the dick, there are queef jokes, the males are far dumber than any human being could be, etc).

                      That being said, my personal theory is they just did what they original Ghostbusters movie did. They got an idea and grabbed a bunch of SNL players and comedians to fill it out. The chemistry just didn't work out, it happens.

                      [–]whisperingmoon(◍•ᴗ•◍) 93ポイント94ポイント  (10子コメント)

                      If I see one queef joke for every ten cum jokes I've been subjected to since There's Something About Mary came out in 1998, I will be content with the state of cinema. But that's nearly twenty years of jokes to catch up with, so...

                      [–]Atari_5200Concession Stand Attendant 42ポイント43ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      There's Something About Mary

                      That wasn't cinema though, it was a war crime in film form.

                      I kinda hated that film a lot.

                      [–]brufleth 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Never clicked with me. I don't like cringe comedy too much and that movie gave me cringe seizures.

                      I have trouble laughing when I just feel bad for everyone.

                      [–]ReservoirDog316 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      The heck? Who hates There's Something About Mary!?

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                        [–]ApexTyrantDisciple of YungSnuggie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I'm sorry, they don't make movies that long haha. Unless they want to take ghostbusters and make a Fast and Furious style series in which case you have a chance.

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                            [–]Canis_Familiaris[🍰] 22ポイント23ポイント  (6子コメント)

                            I kindof liked robocop though....

                            [–]My_Box_Has_VD 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Robocop had an incredibly ballsy opening sequence (getting a Western audience to empathize with non-white, presumably Muslim youth getting ready to try to blow up an American war robot), but then the rest of the movie wasn't nearly as colorful or memorable. There were a couple really great scenes after that, but then nothing else seemed to stand out.

                            [–]GoldySilveryIrony 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            I really liked the body horror bit where the robotic bits are taken away so he can see how much of him is really left.

                            Movie had a lot of potential, I wish the director was left alone by the studio.

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                                [–]FEARtheTWITCHyour politics bore me. your demeanor is that of a pouty child. 25ポイント26ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                21 jump street was surprisingly good, but yeah remakes are usually meh at best

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                                  [–]Matthew_Cline 76ポイント77ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  I got an opportunity to watch the movie at one of the pre screenings in LA recently and all I can say is that I personally don't think the movie is any good.

                                  Hey, at least you've actually seen the movie.

                                  [–]ZuggyThe Jewminati is good for Buttcoin 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  So far, the RT score for the new movie is a 77 while the original has a 97. Based on the trailers and taking into account how RT scores movies I feel that might be a fair score.

                                  The thing to remember about RT score is it's not a direct gauge of how good or bad a movie is, but what percentage of general audiences are expected to enjoy it. I think there's going to be a huge group of people who just aren't going to enjoy it because of how good the original was, but I also think it's unrealistic to expect the new movie to be as good as the original. It's not very often we get movies that are a perfect storm and are able to transcend time and I think the original Ghostbusters did that.

                                  I figure if the new Ghostbusters movie hits the mark of being a decent reboot then it's probably done its job for the studios. I feel in 20 years people will still be enjoying the original Ghostbusters, but this reboot will probably fade from memory. I felt the same way about Jurassic World. I would say it was the second best Jurassic Park movie, but I think in 20 years we'll still be enjoying the original and Jurassic World will be mostly forgotten except for its association with Jurassic Park. Just for comparison Jurassic Park has a 93 on RT and Jurassic World has a 73.

                                  [–]brown_cakeI love a good argument about ducks. 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Honestly this is what I expected. The reviews also indicated as much.

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                                    [–]FoximusMaximus 158ポイント159ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                    Man, I'm getting so tired of every venomous opinion reduced down to calling the other person a "shill." It's just lazy, and insinuating that your opponent only disagrees with you because they're getting paid to do it is boring.

                                    What happened to the truly vicious personal attacks that don't give the implicit benefit of the doubt that the person is just getting paid to disagree?

                                    [–]InsomniacAndroid 89ポイント90ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    Are you shilling for Big Peace?!?!

                                    [–]get-innocuousplease educate me about free speech 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    in the name of the cuck, the shill and the sjw

                                    the holy trinity

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                                      [–]ZaheerUchihaEDGELORD 278ポイント279ポイント  (64子コメント)

                                      This is the perfect storm for popcorn. If the movie had received bad reviews as many expected, reddit would have circlejerked for a while about how they were right and then moved on. But now that the movie has a 74 on RT the whole thing has imploded and drama will prevail. I don't think an ok movie has caused so much of a shitfest before.

                                      [–]amazingchickensDrama will prevail 230ポイント231ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                      drama will prevail

                                      http://i.imgur.com/7irzZYg.gifv

                                      [–]I_did_naaaht 27ポイント28ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                      Off topic, but that's an amazing gif. What's it from, or what's the context of it?

                                      [–]amazingchickensDrama will prevail 45ポイント46ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                      forest fire

                                      (After the fire)

                                      [–]I_did_naaaht 15ポイント16ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                      Man, fire ecology is so cool. There's some plants that actually produce flammable oils to encourage forest fires.

                                      I'm guessing the clip is from some nature documentary?

                                      [–]wraith313 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      A number of evergreen species require fire to even open their cones to disperse seeds. Long-leaf pine is one of them, though it's comparatively rare.

                                      [–]zeeeeeraYou initiated a dialog under false pretenses. 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      Yay Eucalyptus trees and I guess Paperbark trees also.

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                                        [–]Atari_5200Concession Stand Attendant 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        That waddle-run out at the end confirms that lizard as my spirit animal.

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                                          [–]Hammer_of_truthinessProfessor Memeritus 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Honestly the best part is that its got a 76% atm on RT for all critics, but for Top Critics its currently at 50% (so rotten) so both sides have ammo to shoot!

                                          This one's gonna keep going for a while now.

                                          [–]majere616 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          That sounds like it translates to "Eh, it's okay" percentage-wise. Which is kinda on the high end of my expectations for reboots/remakes.

                                          [–]FireWankWithMe 163ポイント164ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                          It emulates the drama around Hillary's emails so closely too: before the verdict subs like /r/the_donald couldn't wait for the guilty judgement to come through (implying they trusted the FBI) yet as soon as the FBI didn't give the verdict they wanted it was straight into conspiracy mode labelling the FBI corrupt shills for Hills. The exact same thing has happened with Ghostbusters: people were initially hyped for having their views validated by authority but when that didn't happen the reaction was to try to smear the very authority they had just upheld.

                                          [–]Puggpu 121ポイント122ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                          And, coincidentally, both the Clinton campaign and the new Ghostbusters have women in historically unlikely positions.

                                          [–]steeleworks 79ポイント80ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                          To be fair, Ghostbusters (2016) really did seem like a poorly written cashgrab by the trailer alone. (and the trailer is supposed to be the movie's best foot forward)

                                          [–]Deadlifted 61ポイント62ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                          For every Terminator Salvation there has to be something that is the exact opposite. The trailer for Spy was pretty bad and gave off a terrible vibe (it seemed like McCarthy was going to play the fat bumbling oaf spy) but was an amazing comedy and subverted a few genre conventions.

                                          [–]lionelione43don't doot at users from linked drama 34ポイント35ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                          fat bumbling oaf spy

                                          Shit, that wasn't what the movie was about? I saw the trailers, thought "This looks stupid" and never bothered to watch.

                                          [–]IceCreamBalloons 47ポイント48ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                          Not at all, though you can be forgiven for thinking so, the trailing was so misleading.

                                          The basic premise is that she's an agent who's demonstrated she's capable but has never been in the field before so she's flying by the seat of her pants, which is where a lot of the humor that involves her comes from. Not a single "lol, she's fat" joke in the entire movie.

                                          [–]lionelione43don't doot at users from linked drama 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                          Huh, I might check it out then. I just hate those movies where it's like "haha silly fat person not doing anything right, bumbling around, oh they farted haha". The trailer made it look like she was a bumbling idiot who they were relying on for some reason as Jason Statham looks on and shakes his head.

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                                                [–]Caelrie 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Paul Feig has a known history of making really good movies that have absolutely horrible trailers. He should hire someone better to approve them and take himself out of the trailer process or something.

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                                                    [–]bushizsomethingawfuldotcom agent provocatuer 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    It's amazing. If it had been an obvious masterpiece, reddit would have rapidly pretended that it never thought it was going to be bad, if it had been a complete dud, there'd just be smug satisfaction, but, as an entirely passable film that's nothing amazing, they can go into a total meltdown about it.

                                                    [–]HowNowBrownLau 68ポイント69ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                    Funny thing is, if it weren't for all the drama, I almost certainly wouldn't have gone to see the move. I couldn't be less interested in a reboot/sequel of Ghostbusters.

                                                    But the fact that it's gotten all this drama combined with the decent reviews makes me very curious to see it. I can almost guarantee I'll go see it this weekend.

                                                    Congratulations assholes, you've convinced me to go see the movie you so desperately wanted me to hate.

                                                    [–]MiffedMouse 50ポイント51ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    This is the hypest I've been over a mediocre film since the Interview.

                                                    [–]Little_Hurricane_ 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Eh, I'm still just gonna wait for it show up on HBO or Netflix or something

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                                                        [–]zeeeeeraYou initiated a dialog under false pretenses. 497ポイント498ポイント  (152子コメント)

                                                        Hopefully it will mean that Reddit wakes up and realizes that much of the US media is owned by SJWs.

                                                        Ghostbusters 2016 is objectively worse than BvS and Warcraft. The fact that it is scoring higher critic reviews exposes the phantom SJW menace behind the curtain pulling the strings and preserving The Narrative.

                                                        You heard it here, the SJW cabal owns the media.

                                                        [–]_watchingsub mod shillionaire 435ポイント436ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                                        Ghostbusters 2016 is objectively worse than BvS and Warcraft

                                                        The immensely varied palate of the reddit film buff

                                                        [–]Little_Hurricane_ 134ポイント135ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                                        Hey there, they probably also love the films of flawless visionaries such as Christopher Nolan and Quentin Tarantino

                                                        [–]UltravioletClearance 137ポイント138ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                        Sadly they really do. The movies mods tried having a weekly sticky post for lesser known, mostly arthouse and foreign films and directors, and got a TON of flak for interrupting the onslaught of Nolin, superhero movies, and generic blockbuster posts.

                                                        [–]del_rioAbsolute scrotum achieved. 52ポイント53ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                        /r/TrueFilm is great, but the discussion is so in-depth that participating in discussion is extremely intimidating.

                                                        [–]dijitalbus 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        That sub is approaching 100k users and still has a crazy high level of discourse... something to be admired, for sure. I guess one way to keep it that way is to make the barrier for entry obscenely high.

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                                                          [–]Deadlifted 73ポイント74ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          I "love" the weekly posts that are "If you like [generic cinematic term] you should watch [popular 90s film] because it does that [generic cinematic term] incredibly/amazingly/adverbingly [synonym for good]." Hate to break that up by actually having discussion of lesser known films when we can discuss Nolan not using CGI and instead actually visiting the singularity.

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                                                            [–]Ted_rube 38ポイント39ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                            Wait, are Tarintino and Nolan bad film-makers suddenly? Or are we just being SRD contrarian smug assholes?

                                                            [–]brufleth 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            They're great. Just that there are other great film makers out there too.

                                                            [–]tibby_throwaway [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                            They're great directors, but they're also like smug-film-school-bro 101. Especially The Prestige, The Dark Knight, Pulp Fiction, and Inglourious Basterds.

                                                            For more SFSB101, see also Shawshank Redemption, Fight Club, and most recently Whiplash.

                                                            [–]Little_Hurricane_ 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                            No, as mentioned in my later comment in this chain they've both got some good work on their resumes. But /r/movies tends to treat the both of them with a level of reverence that isn't really warranted simply in terms of being disproportionate to what they've done

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                                                              [–]SteadilyTremulous 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                              They are big guys after all

                                                              [–]Earwolfman_Jack 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                              I really don't understand the love for BvS on /r/movies.

                                                              You constantly see complaints there about lack of originality in Hollywood, often time in regards to reboots like Ghostbusters 2016, but then they just gobble up another crappy unoriginal super hero movie.

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                                                                [–]istealroadsignsfuckin' plambinis 230ポイント231ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                Tough break for the Jews. They had a good run, though.

                                                                [–]Little_Hurricane_ 119ポイント120ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                But if you rearrange the letters of SJW you get JWS, which is only one letter short of being Jews. ONE E as in One Earth, as in One World, that the Learned Elders are trying to lead us towards! Wake up sheeple! SJWs are Jews!

                                                                [–]Aimless_Drifterayyy lnpao 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                SJW - Superpowered Jew Warlord

                                                                Also known as Magneto

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                                                                  [–]CollapsingStarTekeli-[le]! Tekeli-[le]! 194ポイント195ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                  the phantom SJW menace

                                                                  I'll try shilling, that's a good trick!

                                                                  [–]SalmonPowerRanger 93ポイント94ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Now THIS is shitposting!

                                                                  [–]JamarcusRussel[🍰] 62ポイント63ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  I saw you had one of those laser memes, only jedis carry those

                                                                  [–]041744Obvious SRS shill 44ポイント45ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  'Perhaps I reposted a jedi and stole his karma'

                                                                  'Nobody can repost a jedi. '

                                                                  [–]d3northwayle benis petit 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  thousand yard stare while I sip blue milk

                                                                  [–]TrexJesk 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  So this is how ethical games journalism dies.

                                                                  [–]greenmoonlight 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  There's always a bigger shill.

                                                                  [–]thithiths 77ポイント78ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  objectively

                                                                  I love it when people use this word when describing value aspects in media. It means that they haven't given the nature of criticism any thought in their lives at all and can be easily dismissed.

                                                                  [–]eezstreet 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  I love it when people use this word when describing value aspects in media subjective content.

                                                                  FTFY

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                                                                    [–]upsetting_innuendocuck-a-doodle-doo 29ポイント30ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                    the phantom SJW menace

                                                                    man i could have sworn that came out in like 2000 or something, old news.

                                                                    [–]Kerasha 78ポイント79ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                    Unless he had been to a prescreening how does he even know that?

                                                                    The movie isn't even out yet.

                                                                    [–]mrpopenfresh 49ポイント50ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                    He saw the trailer. That's all you need to see.

                                                                    [–]VAGINA_EMPERORfiguratively can't even 49ポイント50ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                    Haven't even seen the trailer, but I know it's got feeemales in it, so it must be SJW feminazi propaganda.

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                                                                      [–]topdangle 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                      If you go by reddit posts apparently a lot of people were at the prescreener (both people that dislike and liked the film). Not entirely sure what the process is, but it didn't seem to be very exclusive.

                                                                      [–]azavx 48ポイント49ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                      There isn't a chance in hell I will watch ghostbusters but It just can't be worse than Batman vs superman. That movie is awful

                                                                      [–]Sand_Dargon 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                      Is BvS supposed to be part of the SJW plot, too? I am confused.

                                                                      [–]azavx 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      Whatever plot it's a part of is a bad one. Shit Wonder Woman was probably the only decent character and she still made little sense

                                                                      [–]LadnilWhy is everyone on the internet so weird? 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      The generic guitar riff when she showed up on screen had me laughing so fucking hard. When they eventually make the Walk Hard of superhero movies, I hope they use exactly that for their tryhard sidekick character.

                                                                      [–]ThatOneChappyYOUR FLAIR TEXT HERE 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Her acting was awful

                                                                      [–]agitatedandroid 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      Well, in two clutch situations it's a girl that saves the day. So, obviously Batman and Superman are cucks. I guess.

                                                                      Fuck, I hate all this nonsense.

                                                                      [–]COPCO2 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Male identity crisis is the wrost.

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                                                                          [–]kurin 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                          Erm. If it's a phantom menace, then it's not real.

                                                                          Edit: unless you subscribe to the belief that SJWs are skeletons animated by phantoms, I guess.

                                                                          [–]zeeeeeraYou initiated a dialog under false pretenses. 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                          Edit: unless you subscribe to the belief that SJWs are skeletons animated by phantoms, I guess.

                                                                          Do you not?

                                                                          [–]kurin 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                          I don't subscribe to any beliefs for which there aren't lengthy YouTube videos.

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                                                                            [–]vpovio 29ポイント30ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                            The idea that the new Ghostbusters is worse than BvS is just... dumb. I mean ffs "Martha?!" anyone?

                                                                            [–]a_jill_sandwich 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            Oh hey, did you say Martha? My mother's name is Martha! Wanna be friends?

                                                                            [–]PoogansAdvocate for the repeal of Unfair Flavor Laws 35ポイント36ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                            I know I blame you for destroying a city and countless lives, but our moms have the same name so we're cool now.

                                                                            [–]ThatOneChappyYOUR FLAIR TEXT HERE 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                            Actually I liked the Martha bit.

                                                                            [–]WideAwakeNotSleeping 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            I didn't like the execution, but the idea was nice. Except Luis Lane... her arrival in that scene was dumb and unneeded.

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                                                                              [–]mrpopenfresh 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              This is going to be the popcorn that keeps on giving. Everyone whipped themselves into a frenze over this movie for months, no matter what happens, the reactions will be extreme.

                                                                              [–]NorrisOBE 126ポイント127ポイント  (76子コメント)

                                                                              I'm starting to think that the film would have a less negative reaction on Reddit if it starred Tina Fey, Ellie Kemper and Aisha Tyler alongside Kristen Wiig.

                                                                              Hell, Reddit would be jerking itself if the female Ghostbusters starred Scarlett Johanssen, Emma Watson, Anna Kendrick and Aubrey Plaza.

                                                                              [–]Triseult 124ポイント125ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                                              When I first heard of the all-female-cast reboot concept, I was convinced they'd cast Sigourney Weaver as the grizzled veteran Ghostbuster training up a new team.

                                                                              [–]NorrisOBE 53ポイント54ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              I too would watch that.

                                                                              [–]MintyAnt 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              That's such a perfect Sigourny Weaver roll. She would be standing around, smoking a cigeratte with one hand, doing the "half arms crossed" thing and training them in the most hardass way ever.

                                                                              That sounds awesome.

                                                                              [–]Magooniea.k.a JOHN CENA 55ポイント56ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                              I would love to see an Expendables type movie with an all badass female cast. Cast could be: Sigorney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Uma Thurman, Scarlette Johanssen, Angelina Jolie, Zoe Saldana, Zoe Bell, Pam Grier, Rhonda Rousey, Eliza Dushku, Lucy Liu, Chloe Moretz and Kate Beckinsale for starters. Split them up to a good team vs a bad team and you've got a movie.

                                                                              [–]ABKC 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              Michelle Rodriguez with a bit part where her characters gets killed within 30 seconds.

                                                                              [–]mellowwords 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                              You mean The Expendabelles?

                                                                              http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/stallone-target-expendebelles-pal-article-1.2704858

                                                                              [–]KaiserVonIkapocCalibh of the Yokel Haram 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                              God damn, Expendables got so much shit for being a homage to cheesy 80's action movies. Stallone just didn't give a shit, he hammed everything. I wanna see how cheesy he makes Expendabelles so I can love it.

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                                                                                [–]cosmo2k10 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                Sounds like that Taylor Swift video.

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                                                                                    [–]MoralMidgetryThe memes of production belong to the proletariat. 56ポイント57ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                    I thought reddit hates Emma Watson now because feminism and Panama Papers. And maybe also Aubrey Plaza for some reason I can't remember?

                                                                                    [–]AnEmptyKarstThey who control the salt, controls the redditverse 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                    Aubrey came out as bi, so let's see how Reddit reacts to that

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                                                                                      [–]OgirYensaSubreddit Common Cold 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                      Emma Watson

                                                                                      Eh, not such a reddit darling anymore after He For She.

                                                                                      [–]Combustibutt 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                      Had no idea what you were talking about, so I googled it. Three thoughts:

                                                                                      1. Oh, a feminist speech from an adorable young lady. I'm sure Reddit didn't disappoint. I refuse to look up the drama cos it would only depress me.

                                                                                      2. Goddamn she looks fierce in a suit

                                                                                      3. Calling your feminist website unwomen.org? Could've chosen better.

                                                                                      [–]Fala1 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                      I've actually referred people to her UN speech, because it's personally one of the best speeches on feminism I know of.

                                                                                      But somehow there are still people who hate her now because of it? Or did something else happen?

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                                                                                        [–]mekka-lekka-hi 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                        Maybe Amy Poehler as well? Oh, man, with Nick Offerman as the secretary.

                                                                                        [–]puedes 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        Just go watch Parks and Rec

                                                                                        [–]mekka-lekka-hi 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        I can sadly say that after my son's maybe 20th viewing of Parks & Rec, I may be sick of it.

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                                                                                            [–]Intortoiseliterally srs 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            I am such a boring person that a remake of a children's movie literally ruins my childhood. My childhood solely consisted of sitting in front of a TV watching a movie, and now that a remake has come out, they somehow managed to go back in time and destroy the original and all my memories with it.

                                                                                            [–]MoralMidgetryThe memes of production belong to the proletariat. 113ポイント114ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                                                                            Ghostbusters wouldn't even make my top 10 movies that came out in 1984. Fite me irl.

                                                                                            [–]InsomniacAndroid 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                            Can I have a list? I don't even like Ghostbusters I'm actually curious.

                                                                                            [–]thedonkdonk 42ポイント43ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                                                            http://www.imdb.com/search/title?year=1984,1984&title_type=feature&sort=moviemeter,asc

                                                                                            Yea, that was a pretty good year...

                                                                                            [–]MoralMidgetryThe memes of production belong to the proletariat. 12ポイント13ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                                            Damn, that list is even deeper than I remembered.

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                                                                                              [–]Little_Hurricane_ 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                              That's kind of along the lines of what made this whole thing bizarre to me. Before this whole controversy kicked off I can't ever recall Ghostbusters being something that people talked about, like really ever. Sure the theme song was still pretty known, as were maybe two lines ("Don't cross the streams" and "blah blah God you say yes") but other than that? It just always seemed like any other movie that was popular back in its day but was mostly left by the wayside. But this reboot comes around and suddenly you've got Ghostbusters fans coming out of the woodwork by the thousands all trying to defend its honor and claiming its an all-time classic. Like, where were all these people before the shit hit the fan? Like, it's a good movie but I wasn't exactly seeing much "it's an unassailable classic" sentiment before this all went down

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                                                                                                [–]uniqueguy263Navy seal with over 300 confirmed kills 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                "Social Justish Drama" would be a much better tag.

                                                                                                [–]NudoJudo 154ポイント155ポイント  (60子コメント)

                                                                                                God, we've become such... pricks about things. What happened to being pleasantly surprised when a movie you thought was going to be shitty turned out being good(or at least not terrible)?

                                                                                                Were there these controversies back in the day? Like when Sigourney Weaver ends up being the protagonist in Alien, did the neckbeard-equivalent back then mew about it endlessly?

                                                                                                Actually, now that I think about it, there totally were. I wish there were message boards back in the '80s, so we could go back and see metalheads grouse about Kip Winger.

                                                                                                [–]CoreDuo08 175ポイント176ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                                It's because the movie is objectively bad and this is irrefutable evidence that the mainstream media is bought and paid for by SJWs. Instead, read this review I wrote that is unbiased and completely free of political slant about why Ghostbusters is factually unfunny and how the critics are wrong.

                                                                                                http://www.radfemwatchdog.net/articles/39412/ghostbusters-2016-why-we-need-trump/

                                                                                                [–]voldewort 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                fuck

                                                                                                [–]PoogansAdvocate for the repeal of Unfair Flavor Laws 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                This is the second time I've been Rick rolled this weekend and before that I'm pretty sure it's been years. The first time was by some hippie brass band in the backwoods of central Pennsylvania

                                                                                                [–]Bythmark 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                hippie brass band in the backwoods of central Pennsylvania

                                                                                                These guys?

                                                                                                [–]PoogansAdvocate for the repeal of Unfair Flavor Laws 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                Holy shit that's them!

                                                                                                [–]kekkyman 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                Are you a parody?

                                                                                                [–]CoreDuo08 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                That's for me to know and you to find out.

                                                                                                [–]McCyanide 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                ghostbusters-2016-why-we-need-trump

                                                                                                Gonna go with yes.

                                                                                                [–]Dakar-A 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                Watch the review; it's enlightening. He's no parody- he's legit.

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                                                                                                  [–]Antigonus1i 41ポイント42ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                                  A much better example is Starbuck being a woman in the Battlestar Galactica remake. I've personally never heard anyone who had a problem with it, but it was probably controversial at the time.

                                                                                                  [–]NudoJudo 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                                  It's really hard trying to remember any controversy about BSG because it's all overshadowed by the ending, and also by the fact that remake was a lot better than the original.

                                                                                                  With that said, I can't remember people whining about female Starbuck. I vaguely recall skepticism in regards to bringing back something like BSG, but nothing in regards to specifics.

                                                                                                  [–]My_Box_Has_VD 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                  With that said, I can't remember people whining about female Starbuck.

                                                                                                  Oh there was whining, loads of it. Dirk Benedict, who played the original Starbuck, was highly critical of Katee Sackhoff as a casting choice, and for a while there, the fans of the old show were calling the reboot "GINO" (Galactica In Name Only), which actually got a reference on the show as the name of a Cylon infiltrator, Gina.

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                                                                                                    [–]vestigial 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                    A much better example is Starbuck being a woman in the Battlestar Galactica remake. I've personally never heard anyone who had a problem with it, but it was probably controversial at the time.

                                                                                                    There were plenty of people who were upset Star Buck was played by a woman, right up until they saw her knock out the XO and saunter off to the brig chomping a cigar. So damn good.

                                                                                                    [–]ZuggyThe Jewminati is good for Buttcoin 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                    I think my only complaint about Starbuck in the new BSG had nothing to do with Katee Sackhoff's performance (which I felt generally ranged from good to brilliant) and everything to do with how they wrote her back in after she "died." From what I've heard she wasn't supposed to come back, but they brought her back anyways and her storyline ended up being one of those shit things at the end of the series.

                                                                                                    [–]_Dimension 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                    That was one of the gutsiest decisions in the past 20 years of TV. It was controversial but as someone pointed out, the second she knocked the XO out in the first scene of the pilot movie, it really set the tone of the character and people immediately shut the fuck up about it.

                                                                                                    Katee Sackhoff's performance just outshines everyone else in a sea of great performances. Every scene she is in she commands attention of the viewer. People talk about Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2, but that performance is cartoony compared to the flawed toughgirl Starbuck.

                                                                                                    The Emmy's have been notoriously bad for scifi, and I think this is one of the best examples. I think both Katee lead and Tricia Helfer as supporting were completely snubbed. And that is just the first season.

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                                                                                                        [–]FireWankWithMe 65ポイント66ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                        This has been my favourite drama to watch unfold, I'm pretty sure I laughed more from the drama than I will watching the actual film. There has been so much madness from the KIA crowd but I think my favourite was the thread trying to get to the bottom of what could possibly be wrong with Paul Feig to make him want to direct female casts. They diagnosed him with everything from deeply closeted homosexuality to deep seated childhood trauma, all while calling him a 'mangina' at the same time as they were getting upset about a villain being shot in the dick.

                                                                                                        Also this is outdated but now is probably my last chance to link to this and I feel like I should because it's the funniest video I've seen of someone wading through this particular borough of crazy.

                                                                                                        [–]MercuryMouth 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                        i love hbomberguy so much. it makes me sad he isn't nearly as popular as the alt-righters he lampoons

                                                                                                        [–]LieBaronCaptain Complicated 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                        He's not for everyone. I basically agree with him 100% of the time, but I tend to find him a bit off-putting on account of how his sense of humor is so circle-jerky and his videos are so lamely produced. It's one of those things where the things that makes him appealing to a small core audience turns him off to a lot of other people I think, and that realization has always been one of those [glass shattering] things for me.

                                                                                                        [–]Cynical_WarnerAspiring cuck 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        #WheresAnitasBees

                                                                                                        Hbomberguy is such a breath of fresh air on YouTube compared to the alt-right that seems to dominate the site (at least on the topic of internet politics). He's the only leftist Youtuber that is even somewhat popular besides LibertarianSocialistRants.

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                                                                                                          [–]SpaceGoggle 33ポイント34ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                          I can't stand people who scream "shill" around every corner.

                                                                                                          They're really fucking stupid.

                                                                                                          [–]ReallyCreativeI make eggs better than you 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          THAT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT A SHILL WOULD SAY, YOU SHILL!!!1!

                                                                                                          [–]Deadlifted 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          I'd love to be paid money to talk about movies online.

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                                                                                                            [–]torsocannon 50ポイント51ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                            In summary:

                                                                                                            I'm a self-proclaimed member of the egalitarian elite, so I'm basically better than you, and if you liked this movie you are a spooky, racist, man-hating SJW shill who can't speak your real opinion because Hilary Clinton. And no, being "egalitarian" in no way means I'm actually apathetic and lack empathy.

                                                                                                            There, that's the whole drama.

                                                                                                            [–]AuNanoManI prefer my grilled cheese with ham 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            "I believe everyone is equal. Now listen why I tell you why I'm. Better than you and all women."

                                                                                                            [–]TheGreatZiegfeld/r/movies mod 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                            Somedays /r/movies really makes me want to die.

                                                                                                            [–]Atari_5200Concession Stand Attendant 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                            This is the reason I'd never mod anything here. I mean really, I'd just say fuck it and close submissions if I were in a position to do so.

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                                                                                                              [–]soapgoat 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                              78% on RT and climbing... oh boy this is going to be a fun one :>

                                                                                                              [–]Zombies_hate_ninjas 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                              I'll probably feel the same about this movie as i do the recent TMNT movies, get weren't great but I didn't hate them. I was way more into Ninja Turtles as a kid than I was Ghostbusters. But a shitty remake doesn't replace the original.

                                                                                                              I like the director, the cast seems fine, and it has Thor. That's usually enough to get me to like a movie.

                                                                                                              How people get so invested in a commercial movie i simply can't understand.

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