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[–]jwt13Brother Nero will pay! 69ポイント70ポイント  (274子コメント)

Saying all lives matter is true but it's also like saying "this house is on fire let's put water on the whole town" Black lives are dying unlawfully by cops with no repercussions not white or any other race is.

Edit: To everyone saying "more white people die by cops" ect, you have to understand those cops get charged, they don't walk free, when a black man dies by cop nobody pays for anything.

[–]AmericasElegy 44ポイント45ポイント  (2子コメント)

I agree but I'm also gonna give them the benefit of the doubt here, I think at least recognizing that D Von as a black man has a life that matters at least keeps things open for discussion about police brutality and systemic racism. It's not nearly as ignoring as All Lives Matter is

[–]pottersquash 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

The problem with the new hashtag world is complex concepts have to get boiled down to something small and simple and people want to argue about the simple, nugget instead of the big issue the nugget was trying to address.

[–]yetiman223death by ohno 29ポイント30ポイント  (25子コメント)

fact is that there is systemic racial inequality in America, so saying "all lives matter" or "I don't see color" attempts to ignore that. Even if those sentiments are true/nice, they don't reflect the harsh reality and therefor only aid in those inequalities by erasing them in conversation.

[–]KcoriThat's a shame. 3ポイント4ポイント  (17子コメント)

I don't understand why some people interpret "all lives matter" as a dismissal of racial discrimination. Our courts and police discriminate against people for a multitude of reasons, and black people definitely do receive a large degree of discrimination, but so do latinos, for instance, and class definitely plays a large part as well. "All lives matter" means that all lives are equal regardless of color, class or anything else that shouldn't be a factor. The idea is to fade away the irrelevant differences and focus on what's important: we're all human.

[–]da_boston 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Black Lives Matter" means "All Lives Matter." That's the implication. People who correct "Black Lives Matter" with "All Lives Matter" are actually trying to shut down the very idea that maybe black people are treated differently. And to be even less charitable, people who say "All Lives Matter" are trying to wave off the deaths of black men and women by the state.

[–]eviemcstevie 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Race is not an "irrelevant difference". It's a huge thing. I'm a woman of color and that's a central part of my identity. Saying that you "don't see color" is bullshit.

OF COURSE all lives matter, that's not even up for debate. But the problem is, black lives are not being treated like they matter. And when people talk about "All Lives Matter", it's just something that dismisses all the points that that black people have been trying to make.

Perfect analogy -- Go to a Breast Cancer Rally and scream "WHY ARE YOU ONLY TALKING ABOUT BREAST CANCER? THERE'S ALSO SKIN CANCER! YOU'RE ALL BIGOTS! # ALLCANCERSMATTER"

[–]ilovekingbarrettbad posts barrett 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

even better: a breast cancer supporter going to a rally for a minor disease that's barely given funding or attention, neglected by doctors, often claimed to not exist because of how the symptoms are so poorly understood, and ask why they aren't fundraising for breast cancer, and THEN saying "all diseases matter".

[–]eviemcstevie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or like when people talk about how disabled people are beautiful, and I decide to walk in and scream "I'M PRETTY TOO"

[–]FullMetalFlakMy bad, y'all be good! 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because, if you'd seen how both had started, you'd see that blm was originally implied as Black Lives also Matter, not as only Black Lives Matter. All Lives Matter got pushed out after blm, and to those that agree with blm, it came off as patronizing, because it came off as countering the later implication, rather than the former.

[–]eviemcstevie 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

Race is not an "irrelevant difference". It's a huge thing. I'm a woman of color and that's a central part of my identity. Saying that you "don't see color" is bullshit.

OF COURSE all lives matter, that's not even up for debate. But the problem is, black lives are not being treated like they matter. And when people talk about "All Lives Matter", it's just something that dismisses all the points that that black people have been trying to make.

Perfect analogy -- Go to a Breast Cancer Rally and scream "WHY ARE YOU ONLY TALKING ABOUT BREAST CANCER? THERE'S ALSO SKIN CANCER! YOU'RE ALL BIGOTS! # ALLCANCERSMATTER"

[–]KcoriThat's a shame. 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

I disagree completely with the breast cancer analogy that's being used recently. The reason we have research for specific cancers, such as breast cancer, is because all cancers need to be treated independently; there will never be a cure for all cancer and, additionally they all have different methods of diagnosis and different symptoms. Because of that, it makes total sense for breast cancer to be considered separately.

However, the best and most effective method to end discrimination isn't to spread the "acceptance" of black people; it's to change the mindset that one type of person is better than another for reasons independent of their actions. If we can do that, it will lead to the acceptance of all people and eradicate the mentality that creates discrimination in the first place. "All lives matter", as I see it, is the avocation for a silver bullet, rather than playing a never-ending game of cat and mouse where we tackle issues one minority at a time.

[–]eviemcstevie 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I disagree completely with the breast cancer analogy that's being used recently. The reason we have research for specific cancers, such as breast cancer, is because all cancers need to be treated independently; there will never be a cure for all cancer and, additionally they all have different methods of diagnosis and different symptoms. Because of that, it makes total sense for breast cancer to be considered separately.

What? I'm not trying to make a point on breast cancer or cancer in general. The point is about how "alllivesmatter" is simply deflecting from the issue at hand. You know what the analogy meant, let's move on.

I'm gonna repeat what I said before, I'm not even black and I acknowledge that black lives are treated as lesser than in this country. Please don't come at me with some "enlightened" white person stuff about how you don't see race or that it's irrelevant. It's very fucking relevant when minorities are TERRIFIED of getting pulled over because they know it's literally a life-or-death situation.

All Lives Matter simply deflects criticism and makes the whole movement about white people.

[–]ilovekingbarrettbad posts barrett 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

if you're dissatisifed with the cancer example: even better: a breast cancer supporter going to a rally for a minor disease that's barely given funding or attention, neglected by doctors, often claimed to not exist because of how the symptoms are so poorly understood, and ask why they aren't fundraising for breast cancer, and THEN saying "all diseases matter". all diseases matter but not all are equally funded or resourced. breast cancer is actually a disproportionately funded cancer because of komen and other corporate interests being able to turn a profit off it. how much of that money actually ends up in researcher hands is another question.

it's to change the mindset that one type of person is better than another for reasons independent of their actions.

this assumes that racism is best thought of as individual, isolated acts of racial prejudice. i would argue that instead, racism, being a sociological phenomenon, should be treated sociologically. especially when we see evidence of social/infrastructual institutions acting racistly, you have to consider that in the equation too. the best solution to racism then, isn't to solve the problem of how individuals think at all, but to solve the overall social problem.

racists - deliberate, overt racists - find ways to be racist as long as they're permitted to, because mental gymnastics is a wide and exciting field full of new research. when saying black people are biologically inferior goes out of fashion, they say "we hate black culture, not black people", but act the same way, and have the same consequences on black people. if a racist hates black people, that's his problem. if he has the power to act on that hate, that's everyone else's problem. remove racist's power, or the power of racist institutions, or un-racist the institutions, and the most dangerous parts of racism fade away.

[–]_FinestJellyBeansRawLARIAT EVERYONE! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand why some people interpret "all lives matter" as a dismissal of racial discrimination.

Because that's how it's often used - as a counter point to BLM to try and downplay BLM.

[–]yetiman223death by ohno 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because when a disenfranchised group starts discussing systemic inequality they face it is erasure to shift the point of discussion to a more general topic.

Imagine you come down with a terminal disease and start trying to raise money for on GoFund Me and someone sees that and says "All terminal diseases matter, donate here instead". And they tried to hijack the point of discussion to generalize the topic.

Doesn't that seem unfair?

[–]NihiloZero 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

there is systemic racial inequality in America, so saying "all lives matter" or "I don't see color" attempts to ignore that.

No, it doesn't. That's a common sentiment I see expressed, but it's wrong. The notion that all lives matter is (or at least was initially) a unifying statement which suggested that the poor and marginalized members of society all have very similar issues regardless of race. But when people shout down those who say that poor people of all races share similar problems and we should work together and unite... then that's going to stymie any movement against police brutality.

Look at it this way... If one group is getting screwed 50% of the time and the other group is getting screwed 30% of the time, why pretend that one group isn't getting screwed? Especially when, in total numbers, the group that is only brutalized 30% is actually being brutalized more -- as is the case with the demographics of people that police kill. I mean, you can split hairs about this. And it really sucks that one group within the larger group (of total people who are mistreated) is being brutalized at a higher rate, but many people outside of that smaller group are also being brutalized at a high rate and in higher total numbers.

The hard truth is... class plays a bigger role in determining who gets brutalized by the police than race. Black people may generally be treated worse by the police (which is truly a shame) but any random poor black person or any random poor white person will each be mistreated more often than someone of any race who is driving a Mercedes. And that's the reality of the situation.

[–]yetiman223death by ohno 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one started saying "All Live Matter" until people started saying "Black Lives Matter"

no one started saying "Heterosexual Pride Day" until people started doing "Gay pride"

Nobody brings up a white history month until February

Why is it that its only when marginalized people's speak up for their rights that equality instantly becomes the topic instead of the inequality being discussed?

[–]ilovekingbarrettbad posts barrett 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

i don't even know how you can come to this conclusion properly.

everyone understands the intention behind saying all lives matter. but the fact is, the results are different. a breast cancer supporter going to a rally for a minor disease that's barely given funding or attention, neglected by doctors, often claimed to not exist because of how the symptoms are so poorly understood, and ask why they aren't fundraising for breast cancer, and THEN saying "all diseases matter". all diseases matter but not all are equally funded or resourced. breast cancer is actually a disproportionately funded cancer because of komen and other corporate interests being able to turn a profit off it. how much of that money actually ends up in researcher hands is another question.

the whole point is, black lives specifically are being treated like they don't matter. white poor people, gay poor people, and many more marginalized people also will be fucked around with by the police. we shouldn't ignore this and people aren't trying to. but the police kill black people when they can, and get away with it, and they have no legal recourse against this - the atmosphere is totally different that it creates amongst all black people. it's not that every police officer who stops you at a traffic stop, when you innocently go to explain you have a weapon and to show it to him, will kill you. but any police officer could. poor white people don't feel the same way except in truly shitty neighbourhoods. middle class and richer white people don't feel the same way. we shouldn't - and have no intention of - ignoring the ways the police fuck other minorities and people without the power to stand up to them. but black people and the police is a specific problem, it's different in nature to the others, and therefore, it deserves a specific solution. the cure for breast cancer is not the cure for skin cancer.

[–]NihiloZero 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

white poor people, gay poor people, and many more marginalized people also will be fucked around with by the police. we shouldn't ignore this and people aren't trying to.

I've personally seen this reality dismissed at BLM rallies. I've also seen it dismissed online by BLM activists. Not necessarily that it isn't a real problem, but that it isn't worth mentioning (or even that it's offensive to mention) at a BLM rally. And you can argue why this is a fine or good position to take, but by doing so you will alienate victims from those groups who otherwise would have been far more willing to stand with the BLM activists.

Again, I'm not questioning that police racism against black people isn't particularly accute and problematic. It is especially bad and it's statistically verifiable. Nevertheless, other groups have very similar problems and are also brutalized at very high rates. And if those groups don't feel represented or defended by people flying under the banner of BLM... then they, in turn, won't always feel particularly inclined to stand by the BLM activists. And this is especially true when there appears to be hostility directed toward those who bring up broader problems which are actually shared across the board by many groups.

I guess, maybe, what I'd like is for there to be an anti-brutality movement that overtly acknowledges the brutality across the board but which also is willing to highlight the particular problem of racism. As it is though, justifiably or not, I feel the movement is seen as being supportive of some victims but dismissive or others. That may not be right or fair, but that's how it's largely seen by many people. And I also think it subsequently attracts some people who do only care about some groups but not others. This is problematic in my opinion and I don't think the BLM movement will be as effective at eliminating police brutality as it otherwise could be.

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    [–]MrSwogQUIET WYATT!! 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Despicable. What kind of a tone is that to speak to a group who have gathered to mourn? I hope she comes to regret that later in her life.

    [–]ilovekingbarrettbad posts barrett 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

    how can you read that video and see the comments on it and not think to yourself "hm, maybe i'm aligning my view with the wrong people here."

    the gay community such as it is is mostly behind black lives matter, and there were gay black people killed in the orlando shootings, and gay black people ignored in the orlando pride protests. just because people are finally speaking out about their issues doesn't mean they're just suddenly getting noisy and annoying.

    [–]MrSwogQUIET WYATT!! 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

    As much as it is awesome that there are so many people here today... but, who are you really here for?

    [–]ChemPrincess 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeahhhhhhhhh, I remember that first video. It's honestly baffling how someone could start that line of thought. It's exactly the shit like she's doing that completely discredits her own argument to people who would and should have otherwise been her ally. What a dope.

    [–]Fyrus 13ポイント14ポイント  (20子コメント)

    "this house is on fire let's put water on the whole town"

    Pretty horrible analogy. I think it's more like saying that every house that catches on fire should be treated with the same severity, no matter the color of the person who owns the house.

    I've been the victim of police injustice as a white guy, and while I'm sure many police districts have racial bias, the core problem is that the police are allowed to get away with things they shouldn't be allowed to get away with. This effects people of any race, color, and creed (except for rich people). Trying to stop people from being racist is an impossible goal, ideas cannot be killed. Stopping cops from abusing their power (or getting away with it) is a tangible goal though, fixing that means that racist cops wouldn't have the power to do what they do.

    While I personally don't have an issue with BlackLivesMatter, anyone can tell that the very title of that alienates anyone who isn't black. This is an issue that requires people of all races to work together. So far #BLM has just divided people.

    [–]ilovekingbarrettbad posts barrett 19ポイント20ポイント  (16子コメント)

    the house fire analogy isn't perfect but it gets the message across. a different one, if you'd prefer, is the cancer analogy - that is, all diseases matter, but not all diseases need equal funding or resources, and not all diseases are equally pressing issues. you would not go to a cancer fundraiser and say "i think all diseases matter." it's obvious that all diseases matter.

    but some diseases are given more attention than others. breast cancer is very well attended to in a lot of ways because corporate interests like komen realized how much money they could make off pinkwashing things. in comparison, rarer, less well known, less publicized, less well known diseases get much less funding, much less attention, etc.

    suppose that a particular disease had been afflicting a particular part of the population, but the medical establishment had simply not been dealing with it - not even because it was especially rare, either. you might feel like, if the ignorance and actual non treatment of the disease was severe and negligent enough, and responses about your disease dismissive and flippant enough, as well as responses as the struggle for funding research, as though people were treating your disease like it "didn't matter". you would probably, in a context like that, like to say "[x disease] matters." because it could easily feel like everyone else is treating it like it doesn't.

    there is no "only" in front of black lives matter. people are reading into the name things that aren't there, because it looks divisive because it acknowledges race. blm has seen huge support in huge segments of the black community, going all the way up to the biggest stars like beyonce, zendaya, less big stars like jesse williams or solange.

    don't blame the division on black lives matter. blame it on the conditions that force people to take stands like this.

    Trying to stop people from being racist is an impossible goal, ideas cannot be killed.

    this is, frankly, a stupid statement.

    besides - the evidence we have, from it being a common black experience for your parents to describe to you how to deal with a police officer so you don't get killed, and the (admittedly limited) data clearly suggest that there is a disproportionate trend against black people compared to anyone else. if you're not satisfied with that link, i have more evidence where that came from.

    [–]auriolrdI'm so big!!! 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm not black and it doesn't alienate me at all.

    [–]eviemcstevie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I've been the victim of police injustice as a white guy

    That's unfortunate, but that injustice did not happen because you are white.

    [–]pottersquash -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    anyone can tell that the very title of that alienates anyone who isn't black.

    It shouldn't though. Like, the Jewish Anti-Defamation League doesn't alienate me. That they pursue instances when people make defamatory against jews and not other groups doesn't mean that I think they are ok with other groups being defamed. And seeing them point out the sometimes subversive ways people use negative jewish imagery helps make me more aware when people do it for other groups.

    [–]PrimalForceMeddler 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "All lives can't matter until black lives matter."

    [–]DefaultProphet 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The rate at which black people die by cops per population is also much, much higher than white people. Raw numbers don't tell the whole story.

    [–]empurrfekt 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    when a black man dies by cop nobody pays for anything.

    That is BS.

    Those took less than 2 minutes to find.

    [–]eviemcstevie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's like walking into a breast cancer rally and screaming "THERE'S OTHER KINDS OF CANCER!! # ALLCANCERMATTERS" at survivors.

    [–]eviemcstevie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's like walking into a breast cancer rally and screaming "THERE'S OTHER KINDS OF CANCER!! # ALLCANCERMATTERS" at survivors.

    [–]The_Donaven 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    To everyone saying "more white people die by cops" ect, you have to understand those cops get charged, they don't walk free, when a black man dies by cop nobody pays for anything.

    Don't wanna be a dick here, but I've never really seen a source for this & I can't seem to find one with my poor google-fu. I didn't think stats were kept on police charged with & convicted of police brutality sorted by race of their victims.

    [–]TheLastWondersmithBetter Than You 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you're going to use someone like Michael Brown as a martyr here, which I hope you don't, I just want you to know your point goes entirely moot.

    And you don't know how law enforcement works in different areas. Cops kill white people and don't get charged plenty. The difference? It doesn't make the news as much.

    [–]pillage -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Glad you're here to correct Devon about what it means to be black.

    [–]fratstacheRALPHUS! 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

    The even bigger problem is black people killing each other by the hundreds each month in places like Chicago. Also people killing cops.

    [–]eviemcstevie 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Do you talk about black-on-black crime regularly and do you actually want to solve it? Or is it just something you bring up to deflect from the fact that blacks are killed by cops at 5 times the rate of white people?

    [–]fratstacheRALPHUS! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Does my answer matter? It sounds like your mind is already made up possibly. All I care about are facts.

    Also, citation needed please.

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      [–]NihiloZero 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Edit: To everyone saying "more white people die by cops" ect, you have to understand those cops get charged, they don't walk free

      An inaccuracy, at best. And that reveals part of the problem with the modern movement against police brutality. It could and should be a unifying issue among the poor and marginalized of all races. But the way it's presented and (mis)understood... certain segments feel that the current movement has no interest their struggles so they don't feel particularly compelled to support that movement in return.

      [–]Natetendo83 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (13子コメント)

      That last part is an hyperbole. White people are shot by cops twice as often and on top of that roughly 400 a year are shot by cops, deserved for otherwise. The crime stats of black people killing back people dwarf this statistic.

      [–]ilovekingbarrettbad posts barrett -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

      white people shot twice as often by cops in proportion to their population? or just in sheer numbers? you shouldn't be surprised that the majority of the population takes up a majority in a statistic. that's bad analysis to just look at that and say 'obviously white people have a bigger problem with the police.' see here for better stats.

      the 'black people killing black people' stats are gang violence, not caused by racism, but just by geography. mind you, white on white violence by that account dwarfs everything else.

      556 black people were killed by police this year, and the cops got away with it.

      [–]Natetendo83 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (11子コメント)

      Population proportion doesn't matter. Another interpretation of that is black peoples commit more crimes.

      Also pointing out that the number of people killed this year by cops isn't that high yet, and most of them so far are white. Take your made up facts elsewhere.

      [–]ilovekingbarrettbad posts barrett 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

      did you read my links? did you read them at all? it might be a fact that black people commit more crimes, but the context you're putting it in and your complete lack of analysis and understanding about what it means, why it is the way it is, and how it fits to things makes it totally fucking dishonest to spit it the way you do. i gave you stats with a lot of background around them. here's a lot more for you to chew on. there is absolutely zero sense in saying that "population proportion doesn't matter". when it comes to "that means black people commit more crimes" consult that link.

      most people killed by the police are black. this is a fact. it's not deniable.

      [–]eviemcstevie 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Population proportion doesn't matter.

      Are you fucking kidding? Black people are being killed by cops at 5 times the rate of white people, and you don't think this matters?

      [–]Natetendo83 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      No they aren't. Twice as many white people each year are shot by cops. That's in a number of less than 1,000 per year total. That comes out to like .001% of the total black population, at the most.

      [–]stockton209whatWe're Here -5ポイント-4ポイント  (11子コメント)

      More whites are killed by police per year than any other race.

      The narrative is bullshit.

      [–]IntelWarrior"Sledgehammer" 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

      That's not how statistics work, you have to compare percentages.

      [–]stockton209whatWe're Here 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Ok.

      50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black.

      &

      The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

      [–]IntelWarrior"Sledgehammer" 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

      Caucasians make up 64% of the population, Blacks make up 12%.

      [–]stockton209whatWe're Here -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Yet despite having a lower percentage, are more dangerous and have a much higher percentage of crime.

      [–]The_Fetaljuice 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Hmm, so I guess that means black people are naturally more violent since that's the only answer that reaffirms my own bullshit racist beliefs!

      If you actually bothered to learn anything you'd know that in every single organized state on the planet the population group with the highest internal rates of poverty (regardless of age, sex or race) is also associated with greater rates of crime. Since you love your statistics so much go ahead and look up the poverty ratio for blacks in the U.S. Try to ignore your cognitive bias if you can, that really helps when looking at statistics (and might prevent you from cherry picking all of them)

      [–]mad87645Looking for a thuganomics tutor 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      So even if blacks are automatically more dangerous than whites (which you seem to think is true) should all black people be treated like they're dangerous criminals? Everytime there's a violent crime should the cops just round up all the black citizens of the town and ask them whodunit? Should black people be seperated from the rest of society because they're a danger to every other race?

      Pull your head out of your ass.

      [–]stockton209whatWe're Here 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to MacDonald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

      [–]LiveThroughTheSpirit -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

      you're getting downvoted because you don't fit the liberal propaganda

      [–]stockton209whatWe're Here -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I know this man, I'm used to it on this website.

      [–]ilovekingbarrettbad posts barrett 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      you're getting downvoted because you're not engaging responsibly with the evidence.

      [–]eviemcstevie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Black people are being killed by cops at 5 times the rate of white people.

      [–]Emperor-NeroWOOOOOOOOOOOO! -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Level ten bullshit. As a matter of fact it is mostly justified when a cop shoots someone. And as a matter of fact cops are least likely to kill blacks as stated here. Now you can state well by their population it is disproportionate. Sorry it's not, because Black people on average commit violent crime in disproportionate levels of their population see here. In reality when talking about BLM you need to stop talking about cops, because most murders committed by black people are committed by black people. Seriously, facts are your friend.

      [–]eviemcstevie 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      because most murders committed by black people are committed by black people.

      A black person who kills another black person is going to jail. Killer cops get off free.

      Facts are your friend? How about this - black people are being killed by cops at 5 times the rate of white people.

      [–]Emperor-NeroWOOOOOOOOOOOO! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Black people also commit 50% of all violent crime despite being 12% of the population. Now this can have more to do with poverty rates, which leads to crappy schools(Schools are paid via property taxes), and on top of that the war on drugs, and the welfare system is not helping anyone.

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