this is something I have been hearing alot from the more ignorant critics of MGTOW as a means to smear the movement without ever learning the reasons or the logic of the movement. Here is what I have to say to it: SO WHAT. Yes, there are men in the world who may not be as socially astute or imbued with great sexual prowess but

1. That does not mean they are worthy of being spit on.

2.These men are suffering, merely remarking upon the manner of that suffering and attempting to use it as an insult is disgusting.

1. As an attempted insult it reveals alot about what society thinks about men.

2. If a man is sad and lonely then he is going to seek out those places where male vulnerability is seen with a degree of dignity and importance. How many places/movements actually do this? Not many.

So long as a movement has compassion for the vulnerabilities of men then men are going to be drawn to it and I'm talking about genuine compassion (to the extent that movement can have compassion) not the falsified compassion of nonsense like 'Patriarchy hurts men too' or the manipulative behavioral pattern that tries to evoke vulnerability in men then use it as ammo against him in the future.

To put it simply MGTOW has taught me a compassion for vulnerable men that I would never have had before. I don't look at sad lonely men like the scum of society, I never will. I look at these men and I see suffering, and it makes me want to figure out the causes. Such as the attempted division of men at a societal level wherein men are only 'Allowed' to interact with other men by women and even then it is on the woman's terms. Men assuming responsibility for a woman's actions expending his energy and time on her when he could be spending it on things that bring him happiness whilst she uses him like an emotional tampon and fucks some other guy. Men constantly fucking respect worthy men over in attempt to get laid. Men constantly believing that a woman is the answer to their problems and not his own personal betterment. These are of course just beginning to scratch the surface of a far larger issue at hand.

I apologize for the length of this post but I had to have this rant about these assholes who think its okay to berate a sad lonely man for his suffering.