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Red Pill TheoryMen HAVE emotions; women ARE their emotions. (self.TheRedPill)

GunsGermsAndSteel が 投稿

Men have emotions.

We feel sad, happy, angry, jealous, joyous, bored, etc just like women do. We feel our emotions to the same degree as they do. Our emotions are just as valid as theirs.

The difference is that a good man knows it is his actions, not his emotions, that make him who he is as a person. He knows that he will be judged by his merits, not by his feelings. For example when a man goes into combat and as a result of his actions is given a medal for his valorous conduct, nobody says "You can have this medal as long as you didn't feel afraid/angry/resentful during the battle".

Women are their emotions.

Women are raised in an environment in which they are judged primarily by what they feel, and what they say about their emotions. A woman can be held faultless for her infidelity as long as she claims that during the cheating, she felt sad, used, dirty, or whatever. Her actions are not what defines her. She is defined by feels.

YOU WILL NOT CHANGE THIS SIMPLE FACT. Not even on a small level. Not even just in your own relationship. IT IS WHAT IT IS.

So do the red pill thing, and use this information to your advantage. Use it to gain what you want, and use it to give a woman what she wanted all along, even if she wouldn't admit it.

If you spoonfeed her emotions to her, you become a de facto defining factor in her life. You become her source of self-identification. You hold the cards. And she WANTS you to hold the cards, so don't fucking feel guilty about it.

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[–]flawlessraptor 61ポイント62ポイント  (13子コメント)

the more I learn about female nature, the less I am interested in pursuing women at all.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel[S] 41ポイント42ポイント  (6子コメント)

The more I learn about female nature, the more I realize that pursuit is the opposite of what will get me laid. If you wanna pet a cat, you don't chase it down. You wait, acting aloof, doing your own thing, and pretty soon that cat is sitting on your lap begging you to pet it.

[–]flawlessraptor 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

no I mean at all.

I don't give a fuck about petting the cat. the cat takes more than it gives in the end.

[–]BaconMeTimbers 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Mgtow isn't for everyone, but might be for you

[–]TheSelfGoverned 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

It is an increasingly attractive option.

[–]harsha_hs 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

True. Women should treated like entertainment. Like how you treat movies, a beer or if a girl is HB8+ u can treat her as 40 year old single malt. Once you finish it, its empty.

[–]MAWL_SC 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Once you finish it, it's empty.

[–]Indigo_Monkey 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

The most Red Pill comment i've ever read in my life-time.

[–]Luckyluke23 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

lately this is how i feel also

[–]forcevacum 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can sympathise but let me also add a counterpoint- there is no greater feeling in this world than walking out of the apartment of some young, tight, blonde hot as fuck girls house after fucking her all night, that you gamed fairly the previous night. Make sure your reasons for opting out are not out of resignation by not wanting to take on a challenge but out of choice.

[–]CuzcoNOC 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of my friends who's pretty red pilled by nature once said: "I'm at that stage of life where if a girl tosses me the ball, I'll sorta try and catch it. But if I drop it, she's going to have to pick it back up for me because that's just too much work."

He said this after he dumped his girlfriend(a HB8) simply because he was going out of town for two weeks. Blue pill me thought him insane, but now I see his wisdom.

[–]Foregen_Is_Life 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am gay, so this is all hypothetical and I am only speculating.

If I was a straight man as opposed to being gay, I wouldn't ever bother to pursue women at all. I would get a vasectomy and avoid marriage entirely. But I would still continue efforts to be attractive - such as eating healthy, lifting weights, dressing nicely, and pursuing a good career. I wouldn't do this to impress women, though. I'd do it to earn respect from people in general.

As for my sex/romantic life, I wouldn't even bother pursuing it at all. For sex, I would rely almost entirely on porn, fleshlights, and sex robots should that day come. For affection, I would get a dog, develop close friendships, and possibly adopt a child. If a woman ever pursued me, asked me out, offered to hook-up, etc. Then great - I'd be down. But I wouldn't go out of my way to actively pursue a woman.

To act in the way that OP is suggesting - deliberately and drastically altering my personality just to please a woman - No. I would never do that. That sounds desperate to me. And degrading.

[–]TopologyDough 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are some men I would never want to pursue a friendship with either.

[–]103342 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

I agree with the general idea of the post but disagree with the conclusion.

Don't try to spoonfeed her emotions. It generally doesn't work. This is how you get oneitis and overly invested in a relationship.

Don't try to manipulate her, it is generally a waste of time. This is something that I wouldn't have said 6 months ago, but that I understand now.

Using "game" is good and easy only if the girl is complying with you and already interested. Otherwise you are just being a chump.

99% of the time nexting the best course of action in problematic situations with women. If they are doing something that bothers you or not doing something you want, just go for the next one or stay alone.

Life is easier when you realize women are just pretty things to stick your dick in and look at every once in a while. Other than that they are empty shells of human beings.

Their emotions aren't really what they ARE, is actually what they USE. It is not an inside thing, it is an outside thing.

If you want women to enjoy you more and you want to enjoy women more, treat them like objects.

Don't try to manipulate their emotions, you will only get frustrated.

[–]JackGetsIt 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Using "game" is good and easy only if the girl is complying with you and already interested. Otherwise you are just being a chump.

You very accurately outline one of the biggest misconceptions that men young and old bring to pick up. She has to have some interest from the get go for game to work. This is why it's so critical to put your best foot forward and wear clean clothes and groom. It's no coincidence the PUA's frequent target rich environments. After a certain point a girl is going to buy in and follow your lead or it's never going to happen and you have about 3-15 seconds leeway to operate in when making a good first impression. You can't negotiate attraction.

[–]cockatricejr 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Even though I see your point, that's what I don't like about the red pill: it brings the pessimist in ourselves.

"Life is easier when you realize women are just pretty things to stick your dick in and look at every once in a while. "

That's somehow accurate, but a pretty sad statement. I think LTR are good and desirable, and everyday I'm trying to find a way to conciliate TRP and a healthy LTR. I think it can be done.

If nothing, pragmatically understanding female behavior and expectations will help you keep her into you forever, happy and loving. It's manipulative, but life is a hostile environment..

[–]103342 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let me make one thing clear, I'm not saying you shouldn't try to manipulate her because its a bad thing for her, I'm saying this because its a bad thing for YOU.

You are the one thats going to end up frustrated.

I don't think that a lot of guys are familiar with the concept of Alpha Fux/Beta Bux.

Let me cite a wikipedia article on Human mating strategy:

One prominent hypothesis is that ancestral women selectively engaged in short-term mating with men capable of transmitting genetic benefits to their offspring such as health, disease resistance, or attractiveness (see good genes theory and sexy son hypothesis). Since women cannot inspect men's genes directly, they may have evolved to infer genetic quality from certain observable characteristics (see indicator traits). [...] Women prefer purported good genes indicators more for a short-term mate than for a long-term mate, and a related line of research shows that women’s preferences for good genes indicators in short-term mates tends to increase during peak fertility in the menstrual cycle just prior to ovulation.[33]

Women are thought to seek long-term partners with resources (such as shelter and food) in order to aid her, and her offspring's survival.[34] In order to achieve women are thought to have evolved extended sexuality.

This shit right here, is AF/BB. One of the most painful redpills for the average chump. If you want to really pragmatically understand the female behavior, read that shit over and over again.

Healthy LTRs where hard in the 40's, now... it is basically impossible.

Women hold the power, we live in an Open Hypergamy. A girl can jump from dick to dick without any backslash, on the contrary, she might even be praised for it.

One thing that a lot of guys here don't see is that being Beta Bux is the dream of a lot of MEN.

But, also, being a beta bux used to be praised in the times when marriage actually made sense for a man.

Most men love to work for something meaningful, specially if that "something" is love and family. Most women don't really give a shit about this, want proof? Look at every single idea behind feminism, which is basically the obliteration of the nuclear family.

I don't hate women, I don't hate betas, I don't hate western society. Redpill is only pessimistic because YOU frame it that way, because you don't want to face reality.

I've swallowed the pill, I'm learning from my mistakes. I know that a LTR in the traditional sense simply won't work in the very long term.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women are defined by the:

 

Hamster Wheel of Subjective Happiness and Progress

 

It's literally all they know.

There is no "objective reality" for women and from their perspective:

Truth is Hate

...in other words they don't see truth as being relevant.

Act in ways that recognize this truth about women. (that they reject truth)

 

[–]iron_jellyfish1 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

We feel our emotions to the same degree as they do.

I have to disagree with this. My wife and I use steroids for body-building. If I let my estrogen levels creep up too much, the emotions are crippling, you have no idea. It is completely overwhelming. I can't think, I just feel on an instinctual level and fixate on things, rage, nostalgia, joy, doesn't matter. I am completely non-functional. If this is even the slightest way women feel, it explains the vast majority of their behaviour.

Conversely, if my wife takes a little testosterone, she is cool as a cucumber, completely level and rational, like a man. High test, high estrogen, = crazy bitch who will fuck your brains out and slash your tires. Put women on birth control, jack up their estrogen and you wonder why they are unstable.

[–]MAWL_SC 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

The psychological effects of birth control are often glanced over and I am glad the you highlighted them.

[–]DigitalTherapy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i fucking love this subreddit

[–]JackGetsIt 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good post. I think I'm also stuck on 'spoonfeed her emotions to her.' Maybe you could help me understand better what you mean here.

I think another way to say this is that women borrow strength to dismiss and quite their emotions when they have a leader. This is also why many lesbian relationship have this butch dike dynamic. It's a grasping for leadership dynamic.

The stronger the man the more secure and in control of her own emotions she becomes. The more financially secure and domineering the more she can trust him to make decisions for her. Decisions she knows she does not make well on her own. Which is why women will do anything for an alpha male. It's like women are walking around with an intense psychosis and the only cure is pure uncut alpha.

There was a thread on redpillwomen a few days ago talking about sex with husbands and LTR's. They basically admitted and confirmed that they start to go a little crazy and lose control over their minds when their men don't fuck them frequently. Stable Stoic masculine leadership is the cure to unstable femininity.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

By spoonfeed her, I mean that if I want to elicit a certain response from a woman, I will input a certain stimulus that I know is likely to make her feel a certain way emotionally. I know that X emotion will result in Y action that will yield Z reward to me.

Pavlov's dog kinda shit.

When I write it out that way, it makes me look like a sociopath, I guess. But fuck it, she's getting what she wants and so am I, so who cares how we get there.

[–]neoj8888 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Touche. That's a very perceptive way of putting it. Great quote material.