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[–]optionhome [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

It's OK to kill your own kid, but not for society to protect themselves against them if your kid leads a criminal life.

[–]snedronningen [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

your own kid

*unwanted clump of cells

[–]Sly_Meme [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It isn't a child until it's breathing, that's how it works right?

[–]BenReilly616 [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

More blacks in New York are aborted than born. If black lived matter why don't black babies matter?

[–]puddboy [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

You're child is a child when YOU decide its a child and you're welcome to murder them until you do. But if you DO decide to claim it as your child, well then we'll fart out some liberal talking point because we're all in it for Hillary, y'all!

[–]FeelingzDontMatter [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

That's probably the most powerful thing I've ever heard Ben Shapiro say. "Deciding when a life becomes a life is the definition of evil and is exactly what the Nazis did."

[–]TurkeyPoundtown [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

I don't really see the power behind that quote, and I'd like to- could you explain that to me? I know this is a topic with a lot of heavy emotion from all sides- but while I can imagine the point is that deciding a fetus is not a life is evil, isn't he similarly deciding when a life becomes a life?

[–]FeelingzDontMatter [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

His point is that at one moment, everything comes together and it creates life. If you try and say that it's only a baby after so many weeks you are deciding whether it is a thing or a person. The Nazis viewed the Jews in the same manner. Not considering someone a person means that you can treat them any way you want. Life is life whether you recognize it or not.

[–]TurkeyPoundtown [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But is that supported by anything outside of Ben Shapiro's feelings? If the value of life is as innate and uninterruptible as "everything comes together and it creates life", isn't that a decision of when life becomes life? I guess I don't see how one perspective on when life begins is the definition of evil, and another is assumable righteous.

Not considering someone a person means that you can treat them any way you want.

It's very sad to note that even considering someone a person doesn't seem to stop us from treating them in horrible ways :/

[–]jgardnerReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Conservatives say all living humans have a right to live and we should protect them. No one can change this.

Hitler and the left say that only some living humans have a right to live, and they get to decide who.

[–]TurkeyPoundtown [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I want to respect all people's perspectives, but what you said really true? Though not from malice, I feel like it would be easy to view a lot of traditional conservative positions as incompatible with a right to life and an obligation to protection.

If we have to split this into the left/right dichotomy, aren't both sides professing a belief in what living things have a right to live? Don't both sides want to decide who has that right?

[–]SultanObama [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

No, God has already giving us His laws. We didn't decide as conservatives, we are simply following the preexisting laws of God. Liberals are the ones making up new shit

[–]Shademaster21 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No, God has already giving us His laws. We didn't decide as conservatives, we are simply following the preexisting laws of God.

What about those of us who don't believe in God, and who do not follow such laws?

[–]jgardnerReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes, it is true.

Conservatives respect history and tradition and do not want to change things unless absolutely necessary. There is a long history, especially in the Judeo-Christian traditions, of respecting life and what that means. We look to our philosophical ancestors for answers to questions like, "Why do we have to fight war at all?" and "What do we do with murderers and rapists?"

Liberals, or rather, progressives, reject tradition and history except as one opinion of many. In a way, rather they set themselves up as a moral authority, and so they end up in conundrums like murdering innocent unborn children but protecting the lives of murderers, terrorists, and the enemy. There is a huge risk when man takes upon themselves the role of the judge of good and evil, and takes upon themselves the job of choosing what morality should be. Conservatives defer that to the only Supreme Being who can properly handle such a power, rather than take it upon themselves.

There is a lot more to conservative positions than sound bites can handle. There is deep, fundamental reasoning and logic behind all of it. The fact that you can't understand it doesn't make us wrong, it just needs you need to spend more time studying the topics involved. Conservatism is not an easy political philosophy, and I cringe whenever an ignoramus claims they are conservative but does not even understand what that means.

[–]TurkeyPoundtown [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There is a long history, especially in the Judeo-Christian traditions, of respecting life and what that means.

Could you expand on that- what does it mean?

The fact that you can't understand it doesn't make us wrong, it just needs you need to spend more time studying the topics involved.

Now now, I would stress keeping separate "don't" and "can't". Would you mind telling me which topics are involved? Outside of the simplicity of sound bites, of course.

[–]ThyDoctor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This issue is nearly impossible to argue because both sides have different definitions of what abortion is.

[–]Final_Smash [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah apparently murder is a women's right.