FBI Announcement(i.imgur.com)
You meant commit suicide suddenly with two gun shots to the head, right?
Edit: http://www.freewebs.com/jeffhead/liberty/liberty/bdycount.txt
Fell down an elevator shaft... on to some bullets.
You know, I've always suspected some foul play there.
Specifically, to the back of the head...
"Victim shot themselves twice in the back of the head, and once with a shotgun to the chest from 20 feet. They then chopped themselves to pieces and placed themselves in 3 layers of trash bags, before driving themselves to a secluded spot in Wyoming, where they proceeded to bury themselves in a 10 foot hole they dug."
"Seems like a pretty open and shut suicide case to me, Jim."
What do you mean? Are you telling me I've been a forensic investigator the last 24 years and had homicide and suicide mixed up this entire time?
Well doi, what a goof up! I guess live and learn, huh!
Sounds legit, I'll allow it....
Or a dumbbell to the throat...
*Barbell
You'd be surprised....
Barass
Ignoring that he was not testifying about anything related to Hilary and just coincidentally knew the Clinton's personally. For fucks sakes guys, he was testifying about something unrelated to the UN that involved Hilary in no way. Even if the Clinton's were arranging all these murders which we have literally zero evidence of, why kill him?
On a faulty airplane in a duffel bag
Or the chest........
I think the joke is that it would be nearly impossible to shoot yourself twice in the head. Not an expert on killing, but I'm assuming it would be less of a feat to shoot yourself twice in the chest
Enter Whistle Blower Terrance Yeakey.
Slit his own throat 11 times, crawled 1 mile, with his throat cut open, to a remote field in El Reno, and found with rope burns and handcuff bruises on his wrists, along with a single gunshot wound to the right temple from a 45-degree downward angle.
Coroner's ruling: suicide.
It just so happened that the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building housed FBI documents to the Clinton's Whitewater real estate scandal and were subsequently destroyed in the bombing.
Yeakey had worked for a year after the bombing, attempting to investigate an elaborate cover-up of the OKC bombing.
Or mid back.
Behind the left ear to be precise.
Ayy, Boondock Saints!
Stabbed 100 times, decapitated, and burned... Coroner rules it natural causes.
"so naturally, he'd be dead."
Brian Regan FTW
It's pretty natural to die after being decapitated.
You've done it, you've successfully merged r/conspiracy and r/libertarian, I suppose it was only a matter of time.
now we need to complete the trifecta: /r/uncensorednews
.45 Caliber Aspirin for that headache he had.
Someone died like that. He was involved in the investigation of the CIA's involvement in drug trafficking in Urban areas. Oh yeah, Gary Webb
It's not impossible or unheard of to shoot yourself twice in the head. Just saying.
So you mean there are other victims. lol
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22surived+gunshot+to+head%22&oq=%22surived+gunshot+to+head%22&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.7855j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=survived+gunshot+to+head
and the whole thing turned out to be true
I mean, the Iran-Contra Affair is way more fucked up than any "conspiracy theory." We sold weapons to our enemies, to fund anti-democracy guerillas in South America, who also got money by supplying cocaine to the CIA, which was then sold on the black market.
How the fuck can anyone look at that and still think that "conspiracy theorists" are "crazy" for questioning other events.
conspiracy theorist is a label they give to discredit people's legitimate concerns. Terrorist is also one those labels.
Rule #2 - Double tap.
Like that Romanian hacker?
Or have a freak bench press incident.
In the business that's what's called a Gary Webb.
Yah but http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
Sleeping with the Fishes
Yea it's weird this guy shot himself in the head twice, rolled himself up in a carpet and threw himself in the river!
freewebs
There's a domain I haven't seen in awhile.
This format is horrible
And then locking himself in a suitcase after he's dead.
Avoid hot tubs, small aircraft, new friends, and bench pressing.
In the morning.
Don't forget about balconies!
What does Hilary call an FBI agent with 9 bullet holes in the chest?
The worst suicide she has ever seen
If I may ask, what is this in reference to?_
Ron Shock - Bolt Action Rifle Suicide
We found comey with 23 rounds of 9mm in his chest and two empty m9 Beretta magazines next to his body. Weirdest suicide we've ever seen
and then the establishment will be
"It appears he fell down an elevator shaft and landed on some bullets."
I'm European but I follow closely the US elections. It seems like a new season of House of Cards
Just vote for Hillary and no one gets hurt.
Vote for Hillary because she is a women and not a racist.
When are we going to riot??
After your nap big boy.
This sounds like a joke but knowing and reading people pretty well, something is definitely up. His speech was basically the speech someone makes when they want to prosecute but aren't allowed to and must take responsibility for it. He smeared her name as much as possible and then threw her a get out of jail free card.
There is no way the FBI would push for indictment unless they were 100% sure they could prove malicious intent
Not all crimes require malicious intent to be prosecuted. This is one that wouldn't need any intent threshold.
Oh, it was my understanding that proving the intent was basically the last nail in the coffin that the FBI couldn't hammer down.
I mean, I know she had intent to hide her conversations from the FIOA but I thought the FBI couldn't prove it beyond a shadow
You don't need intent for a drunk driving ruling. Just gross negligence. This goes even beyond that
This crime doesn't require "intent." Whatever form of "mens rea" that was needed was there, they just didn't want to prosecute. A lot of legal scholars afterwards said that there was no issue with intent from what he said and that a prima facie case did exist. Hence, you get memes like this, because everyone knows the reason to not prosecute is unrelated to the facts of the case.
I don't think they need to prove intent with this type of information. He even said, in not so many words, being stupid is not an excuse for exposing the highest level classified information. There is a long history of punishing many people for much less than this.
Intent is crucial to the laws in question.
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4rd6ou/fbi_recommends_no_charges_against_hillary_clinton/d50hmot?context=1
No, it's absolutely meaningless, as many a lawyer is saying until blue in the face right now, even on national TV.
Nope
Welcome to our new royal family.
Didn't Obama do something similar when he took office and decided he didn't want to get rid of his personal blackberry because he liked the phone?
In essence, in order to give Mrs. Clinton a pass, the FBI rewrote the statute, inserting an intent element that Congress did not require. The added intent element, moreover, makes no sense: The point of having a statute that criminalizes gross negligence is to underscore that government officials have a special obligation to safeguard national defense secrets; when they fail to carry out that obligation due to gross negligence, they are guilty of serious wrongdoing. The lack of intent to harm our country is irrelevant. People never intend the bad things that happen due to gross negligence.
https://oig.justice.gov/special/s0809/final.pdf
Report of Alberto Gonzales mishandling classified information and not being prosecuted for exactly the same reasons they are not doing it to HRC.
There is no way the FBI would push for an indictment if the powers that be were dead set against it.
Its like in the movies when a hostage is told to answer the door and not to say anything. This seemed like dude's way of mouthing "help, call the cops!" with a gun pressed to his temple by a masked gunman.
No way the Obama administration was going to allow Hillary to be charged. Maybe the FBI felt that they couldn't prove intent. I tend to believe that Comey's hands were tied and that his two options with associated outcomes were more or less:
So he took option 2 (and again, maybe they felt they couldn't prove intent) and in the process basically shredded any credibility she had left (for anyone paying attention anyway).
Bring charges against her and lose your life. Don't bring charges against her and get a promotion under the new Clinton administration.
FTFY
You could tell he drug her through the mud as much as possible before saying they won't prosecute. There is a chance his harm could have been a lot more than losing his job. (or there was a hidden benefit a lot more than keeping his job)
Watch his blinking rate when he starts talking about how there was "no outside interference". It goes way up compared to the rest of the speech. He's not a good liar.
Or he's pretending not to be, in order to suggest something he isn't allowed to say out loud.
Why is this point not bigger news? He basically said, if anyone else did this we would charge them, but not her.
This cannot be about just getting the first woman in the chair. She is cancer. Between her and her foundation they are selling off state secrets at an alarming rate.
Quote from the FBI:
To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
Comey actually said, others would be "subject to security or administrative sanctions" which by definition falls short of being "charged" by the FBI.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/fbi-director-comey-sanctions-are-appropriate-in-cases-like-clintons/
edit: a typo
I've given up trying to explain this to people. Nobody wants to hear it.
Being fired from your job as secretary of state would have been a big deal, and that's what he says should have happened
Too bad this was put on the back burner for 2 years.
she broke the law - plain and simple. they cite examples where she broke the law, and still found nothing to charge her with? She is made of Teflon.
Mishandling Classified Information Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email.
Violation of The 2009 Federal Records Act Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements states that:
Violation of the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA)
If you or I did this, we would be in Gitmo - bag on our heads, sucking water through a rag. Fair playing field for all -- that is the biggest problem, it is painfully obvious that there are 2 sets of rules.
/u/lpzthehvy from /r/law explained it for us lay people:
I'll jump in and give it a shot, but the other comments in this thread have done a good job of laying out some stuff. Full disclosure: I'm a law student with no special background in this area, so please feel free to listen to actual lawyers before me.
So, the law at issue is 18 U.S.C. § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information. This law lists seven relevant subsections under which a person could be charged with, (a) through (h).
Subsections (a)-(c) require intent to commit espionage. Since no one is alleging Clinton intended to spy on the United States for a foreign country, those are out. Subsection (d) requires willful intent to communicate the information with someone not entitled to receive it. Since she never intended it to be seen by anyone else, doesn't apply. (e) requires unauthorized access, but since she was authorized to access the information, that's out. (g) just says conspiracy rules apply, so you still need to be guilty of something else for this to kick into effect. Lastly, (h) just says a person guilty forfeits relevant property. So, we're left with subsection (f).
Subsection (f) says:
Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
Let's simplify this language a bit:
Whoever has lawful possession of classified information AND:
Through gross negligence allows the classified information to be removed from its proper place, delivered to an unauthorized person, lost or stolen; OR
Knows the classified information has been illegally removed from its proper place, delivered to an unauthorized person, lost or stolen AND does not report it.
So, the most relevant thing here is #1. for Clinton to commit a crime under this statute, you need: (1) lawful possession of classified info; (2) gross negligence; and (3) removed, delivered, lost, or stolen info. She is only guilty if all three exist.
The FBI concluded that she has lawful possession (easy because she was Sec. of State) and that her actions likely were grossly negligent. But, the investigation comes up short on whether using a home server is removing the information from its proper place of custody. It's tricky because these are emails that were always intended to be seen by her and put in her custody. So, no unauthorized access and not lost or stolen. At the end of the day, they ended up in her e-mail inbox (where they were supposed to be), it's just that her inbox was on a server that was unsecured. There's a potential for them to have been stolen, but there's nothing yet to indicate they ever were.
There is definitely an argument that this can count as information "removed from its proper place of custody," but there's also a strong counter-argument. The FBI concluded a prosecutor would likely not try to bring this case, given the huge potential for reasonable doubt and the absence of any evidence to indicate anything actually was stolen.
TL:DR: She screwed up, but not enough to prove criminality beyond a reasonable doubt.
The FBI isn't saying that she didn't break the law, only that there is not enough proof to get a conviction. If they tried to bring those charges to court, they would not be able to get a conviction. The FBI only asks for charges when they are sure they can get a conviction.
For the record, I think Clinton is definitely guilty of criminal charges, but I just don't think that a court would find her guilty. Not enough evidence for a conviction.
The Teflon Con
I thought I heard about them saying they couldn't find intent, which without it means it is negligence...but honestly someone in her position shouldn't be able to claim ignorance.
There is a difference with "She broke the law" and "She broke the law, and we have solid evidence that she did that will permit us to have her found guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt"
It's very sad that the vast majority of people lack critical thinking and reading comprehension. The statement was maybe poorly worded but it's obvious what was meant by the "subject to sanctions" part. Was she guilty? Probably. Was it beyond a reasonable doubt. No. And that was the FBI's responsibility here. They are not moral police or ethics authorities.
Many people (typically the loudest critics) are typically emotional thinkers when it comes to the Clintons. The facts are ancillary to their feelings.
Eh, its pretty funny to see people trot out all these due processes of law when there is a history of the FBI creating bogus charges just to negatively impact people's lives. Lee Chagra was a lawyer that would represent drug dealers in court and was very good at getting them light or no sentence. The FBI hated him for it so made up false claims about him being a drug kingpin and indicted him. The "evidence" was bogus and the case was thrown out. But news of him being indicted as a big time criminal ruined his name and law firm.
They ruined someone simply because they didn't like him. So this shit about due process is funny. It's because she's a Clinton, nothing more.
Technically it's the courts responsibility to determine innocence. Not the FBIs.
They determine guilt, everybody starts out innocent.
Read those last two sentences again. He's saying that a person in the Executive Branch (i.e. still employed there) would face administrative sanctions. He very clearly does not say there would be criminal charges. And since criminal investigations are what the FBI does, those types of sanctions"[are] not what we are deciding now."
So the take away is that Obama would likely have asked her to resign if she were still in office, but instead he is campaigning with her.
That's neat.
Not necessarily. Most likely any appointed official, especially one with a public profile, would have taken some heat internally and been asked to change the practices. Civil servants would have been fired over this, but they're held to a(n ironically) higher standard.
Yep, would've been fired off it was anyone else, since it's her she can continue running for president
"Being fired" and "continue running for president" are generally not considered mutually exclusive activities.
Similarly, any low level employee that mishandled classified info in the exact same way would still be allowed to be president if the voters chose them.
Well, to be fair, most candidates would be fired just for saying what is typically said during elections. Since we don't want government to have the power to disqualify candidates they don't like, it is up to the voters to decide if they still think somebody running is trustworthy.
Unfortunately they tend to suck at it...
What are your arbitrary restrictions for who can or can't run for president? I think the constitution is pretty clear.
They would be fired. And lose security clearance. Yet she can be president. She wouldn't even be able to get a basic government job that required any security clearance.
To be fair, the government being able to disqualify someone from being president is a terribly abusable notion.
Especially for a top secret clearance. World would flip if Obama was not able to be a Senator/President due to marijuana use.
I mean yes but you have to realize OJ could be president. Going to jail or losing clearance has no impact on being president. It's an elected official and there is nothing prohibiting anything besides the 3 basic requirements to be president.
They would be fired. And lose security clearance.
It's true. And yet, if they ran for office and won, they would get access to whatever materials they needed to be a Congressperson/President/whatever. This should reflect on her ability to do the job, but the technicalities are all in order here.
Security sanctions and administrative sanctions are not criminal charges.
Look at the FBI's history of security sanctions for this exact crime.
Everyone gets an espionage charge on their record for the rest of their life and is asked not to seek security clearance again. Security sanctions and criminal charges most often go hand in hand for mishandling classified information
No, he didn't say that at all. You're misunderstanding the last sentence.
"That" means "the issue of whether she should receive security or administrative sanctions". Security or administrative sanctions were not what they were deciding then. The FBI investigation was not about that.
Here is literally, in plain English, what that paragraph means:
"We're not saying that this is not a thing that should have consequences. People who do these things often receive disciplinary action from their superior. However, per the law and existing precedent, what they don't receive is criminal charges. And that's what we're here to do or not do."
Yes, she should face 'consequences' in terms of her being able to hold clearance for secret information or hold a government job. I can accept that she shouldn't be prosecuted. However she should be held to those 'consequences'. I'd be fine with that.
The quote you provided contradicts your opening paragraph.
Other than your main point being wrong, and proven wrong by your quote, go on.
What he didn't say was that they would've been prosecuted. As you may have noticed over the years, the gov't tends not to prosecute its own top level officials unless it's a slam dunk with criminal intent to boot. This becomes a fait accompli for the next senior official who fucks up in any kind of gray area because the precedent has been set (rinse, lather, repeat). Note, I'm not saying it's a good thing, just that it isn't some pro-Clinton exception/conspiracy.
It's amazing that you can put the quote that refutes your claim in your own comment without seeing the contradiction.
So spell it out - he states she did all these 'Things' that were against the law. Then said that they are not going to recommend any punishment, followed up with if anyone else did this there would be consequences.
again how is this a contradiction?
There would be administrative consequences. She doesn't work for the government right now. How would they apply administrative punishments?
Revoke her clearance, remove her from being able to run for president. If she has no clearance, how can she have access to top secret information, make decisions, hold the nuke launch codes (if that is still a thing) or any other security part of the job.
It says nothing about criminal charges for other people with the same action. It says administrative or security consequences.
Man, a shocking amount of people can't properly parse a sentence.
He probably said what he said under duress. Considering who he's dealing with, you can guarantee he was threatened to take this stance.
I am sure.
[edit] I was wrong
This is the kind of shit that really makes my blood boil
Yes, when people say completely false things I get annoyed too. The FBI director said other people would face administrative sanctions, not prosecution. Well since Clinton isn't the Secy. of State any more, they can't really do that.
Cool your blood down. What he said, in effect, was that maybe she should have been fired, but that that's not what the investigation was about.
It's like if you called the police because you had an employee who was taking too-long breaks. You wanted them arrested. And the cops said "Well, we investigated, and often people who take too-long breaks are disciplined by their employers, but it seems on review that your employee isn't doing anything actually against the law, sorry."
So why did they arrest this guy for the same breach of security protocol last year?
No! He means that people under normal circumstances could be fired from their jobs, face fines, etc. Not legal issues, just personal life.
Administrative sanctions =/ charging someone with a crime
I thought the larger point was that many other government employees also use private servers because the state departments system is slow, outdated, and cumbersome to use, and it was Clinton's high profile that brought this to light more than anything. Also, the precedent for indictment in cases like this is not there, so the FBI assumed, as any prosecuting body would, that there wouldn't be an indictment if they tried? Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way a Clinton fan, but after reading the articles posted yesterday, it seemed like this was the case.
When she was the Secretary of State, she should have done something about it. I mean you fix the problem, you do not ignore it, or do your own thing.
Why is this point not bigger news?
Reddit wont stfu about it. Why do people want cnn, fox to report on it so badly when you already know how out of touch they can be?
Because CNN, Fox news, MSNBC have a larger viewership than Reddit does.
I think I have just found the new meaning of "libtard." I mean, I know you people are already idiots because you really think a country this size could function with next to no government (good luck with those roads, ace), but can you seriously not read either? Fucking read. Just read, dude. Seriously. READ WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID.
Poisoned by his enemies.
What kind of cancer is this?
It's called Hillary Clinton. It's terminal. I'm sorry
By November, almost 300 million could be dead from it.
The only chemo option we have is Trump, which also kills you. But it'll be a much more amusing death, like getting choked to death by an orange clown with freakishly tiny hands.
I won't vote for him out of principle (or her for that matter), but I can't say there won't be some schadenfreude if she loses to Trump.
Had to learn how to pronounce that one.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d3_DjiLLDfo
We also have Gary Johnson to be fair
It's like /r/libertarian /r/conservative /r/conspiracy and /r/politics merged and became tv lawyers.
I'm Upvoting this post in hopes off better visibility. This is awesome
Seriously, posts like this don't do anything to help libertarians get away from the fringe conspiracy theorist stereotype most people view us as
Yeah, I'm leaning on the edge of voting third party but posts like this honestly make this sub look no better than /r/The_Donald. I'd rather see policy hit the front page than a really shitty meme.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
It's so sarcastically written. "We shouldn't even NEED to tell you not to believe this"
Just a coincidence guys we are super serial
This is my first ever comment here but this decision is absolute madness. My father served 33 years in the military and if he EVER did this he'd go to jail no questions asked.
Civilians aren't subject to the UCMJ so the situations aren't the same.
Why even try. These types refuse to listen.
What do you mean by "these types"?
People with opinions you don't hold?
"opinions"
First off, military operates with different rules than the state department.
Secondly, if he did the exact same thing then he wouldn't be. The FBI, with a Republican head known for going after people, didn't just decide to let her go because he felt like it. There wasn't enough for them to feel a prosecution would be successful.
Sorry I don't know the context, what did she do?
Mishandled documents on a private server while she was secretary of state. These documents held top level secret information. Just a short version of what happened.
A bit worse than "mishandled". The private server existed specifically to avoid FOIA requests, and the top secret stuff just went through there because everything did. The shit security honestly isn't the main problem; the very existence of the server proves corruption and should carry severe penalties.
The Clintons may have a lot of dirt on members of the FBI and other agencies. Bill was once the president after all.
I guess I don't understand where and how the Clinton's got this power? I really don't get it. Politicians are mostly corrupt and generally evil control freaks who want your money so they can tell you what to do. Some do worse things than others.
How can she be so blatantly evil and where did this power come from? How do they maintain it? What do they have?
You know the kid from high school who was an asshole , stole shit and was a general piece of garbage but no one ever really fucked with him because he was best friends with the biggest kid who could beat your ass?
Who is Hillarys muscle? Where is her influence coming from?
People seem to die around the Clintons...
THE CLINTON DEAD POOL
James McDougal. Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
Mary Mahoney. A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder ...happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
Vince Foster. Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
Ron Brown. Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.
C. Victor Raiser, II. Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
Paul Tulley. Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".
Ed Willey. Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
Jerry Parks. Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
James Bunch. Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
James Wilson. Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
Kathy Ferguson. Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
Bill Shelton. Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
Gandy Baugh. Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
Florence Martin. Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
Suzanne Coleman. Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
Paula Grober. Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
Danny Casolaro. Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
Paul Wilcher. Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
Jon Parnell Walker. Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
Barbara Wise. Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
Charles Meissner. Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
Dr. Stanley Heard. Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton `s advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
Barry Seal. Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
Johnny Lawhorn, Jr.. Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
Stanley Huggins. Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
Hershell Friday. Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
Kevin Ives & Don Henry. Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
Keith Coney. Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
Keith McMaskle. Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
Gregory Collins. Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
Jeff Rhodes. He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
James Milan. Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes".
Richard Winters. A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
Captain Scott J . Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan
And now you're next. RIP
Give this a read
Your information is full of half truths and flat out inaccuracies.
The decision not to indict will still hurt her later in the election, although she still should have been indicted.
I really find it amazing people on reddit can defend the Clintons of all people
You should see all the hate comments in my inbox...
i mean i'd definitely have that mindset. if i charged her and she won in november i'm pretty sure i'd be shitcanned and blacklisted the second after she was inaugurated
Lol
More like he doesn't want to resign suddenly.
He doesn't want to be poisoned by his enemies...
Pretty much sums it up.
I think it was more of the fact that she is promising stuff to them for when she's elected.
"I don't want to wake up in a bathtub full of of toasters. "
Literally my first thought when hearing the news
It kind of makes sense when you realize that Comey and Clinton turned buddy buddy during calls for encryption.
MAFIA
A moment of silence for the death of the rule of law.
Yes this is new
r/libertarian going for full on retard conspiracy theories
I don't believe he'd have been murdered for it, that's the result of the OP watching too many TV dramas, but you can't deny the pressures on him to make the 'right' decision were immense. Also, really? Retard? Come on, this isn't high school anymore.
All I'm talking about is the "Hillary will have you killed" conspiracy theory shit.
I certainly agree that's pretty out there, but it's probably mostly utilized for comedic purposes. I hope so, at least.
It's a joke for most people. I'll eat a big pile of shit if it turns out Bush did 9/11 or the moon landing was faked. If it turns out Hillary has been complicit in a murder, I'll eat at Arby's.
Are you really surprised though
reading the transcript I got the impression that Comey wants Clinton indicted but somebody above his pay grade said it ain't happening and so he's done the next best thing which is just publicly lambaste her
Biggest bullshit meme going around is this one. If the FBI Director wanted he could of made the recomendation. This is simply one hand washing the other. There is no conspiracy, or fear of life -- that's just childish. James Comey simply doesn't see a need to hold those in power accountable because then he may one day be held accountable for his own treasonous actions actions against the American public, ie cracking the fuck out of US persons without a warrant, or any of the other BoR amendments to the constitution he willfully neglected.
It's sad that I have to scroll this far to find the first sensible explanation of Comey's actions, and it is sitting at negative points. As you said it is incredibly childish to assume that Hillary holds a figurative gun to FBI director's head and forces his hand, RATHER than Comey paving way for a candidate he knows will be favorable towards the actions of his institute.
Yeah, we'll just wait until she's in office for her to kill off all of her enemies.
I'm pretty sure most of the populace is her enemy.
Prison Break.
Strange that the self inflicted gun shots came from outside the trunk of the car he was bound in, I guess he must've had some real inner demons.
Since when did Libertarian mean conspiracy theorist?
Are you new to this sub?
Spoiler alert: idiocy like this is why libertarians are a joke in this country.
Take off the tinfoil and join the real world you kooky fucks.
so what about wikileaks?
O mm.n
This is seriously fucking scary guys :( I'm so worried
