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[News]Hey /u/DanielAndrewsMP, will you follow NSW and ban Greyhound racing in Victoria? (abc.net.au)
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[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -20ポイント-19ポイント-18ポイント 9時間前* (38子コメント)
hey /u/rote_it are you going to give up eating meat?
[–]hgritchie>Insert Text Here< 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 8時間前 (14子コメント)
Screw your false dichotomy and the horse it rode in on.
[–]ohnineninetynine -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
Do you own leather shoes?
[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
No he only wears fresh nikes because chinese children suffering for hours is more ethically sound than using leather.
[–]ohnineninetynine 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
And uses an iphone and goes home and watches movies and posts on reddit through his macbook pro.
ps - whats with the sig? haha
[+]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 8時間前* (10子コメント)
Animal cruelty is only not okay when it happens to dogs!!!!
[–]aonf 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 8時間前 (9子コメント)
How cruel is it to make a dog run around really fast anyway? Dogs love running around really fast!
[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 8時間前* (7子コメント)
Especially if they've been bred to do that for generations. It's actually cruel to have a greyhound and to treat it like other types of dogs. I know all these slacktivists here just want to live in a nanny state where all fun is outlawed but realistically these dogs are just going to be put down if they're no longer of use and I can almost 100000% guarantee that the farm raised animals that we all consume daily for meat, eggs and milk are suffering FAR more than any greyhound.
[–]_otsegolectric 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
Especially if they've been bred to do that for generations. It's actually cruel to have a greyhound and to treat it like other types of dogs.
I'm not getting involved in the rest of your argument, but this point is demonstrably false. Like 60 seconds of research would show that greyhounds are one of the most docile, lazy, lapdog type breeds there is. Greyhounds don't love running around like farm dogs, they just happen to be really good at it. This is the main reason there's been a recent resurgence of having them as family pets.
"A very common misconception regarding Greyhounds is that they are hyperactive. Greyhounds can live comfortably as apartment dogs, as they do not require much space and sleep close to 18 hours per day. In fact, due to their calm temperament, Greyhounds can make better "apartment dogs" than smaller, more active breeds."
[–]ohnineninetynine 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
[–]_otsegolectric 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 8時間前* (0子コメント)
Yes. Two pairs, actually.
I wasn't commenting on whether or not greyhound racing should be banned, just telling him to stop trotting out made up facts.
Edit: it's like you didn't even read what I wrote and just cut and pasted this reply to anything that looked vaguely as if it were showing empathy so you could give a catch-all shriek of "hypocrite". Grow up, mate.
[–]aonf 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8時間前 (3子コメント)
And how many frigging people make their livelihoods out of greyhound racing? The NSW government just wipes out their entire lives at the stroke of a pen, because they kinda feel like it.
Who benefits? Well, there's the property developers who will now swoop in to redevelop all the dog tracks into apartments...
[–]hgritchie>Insert Text Here< 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
First they shut down the cock fights, and I said nothing...
[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 8時間前* (1子コメント)
The dog tracks will most likely be sold off quickly as to cover the shortfall in profits. I think that they'll be sold directly to Chinese land buyers who will subdivide the land and build apartments/flats on it which will be sold to property investors who will negatively gear it.
But it's cool, less dogs suffering I guess
[–]aonf -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
The dogs will either be (a) sold interstate or (b) put down.
[–]ohnineninetynine -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
[–]mario_snifferSCUMSHINE 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 9時間前 (12子コメント)
Hey, I'm vegetarian. Does that mean I'm allowed to think greyhound racing is bad? Just wanna check with you, since you're in charge of who's allowed to think things are bad.
[–]ohnineninetynine -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
Do you wear leather shoes? Or are all your shoes made from canvas/hemp fibre or dare i say it, vinyl?
[–]mario_snifferSCUMSHINE 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
Isn't it past your bedtime?
[–]ohnineninetynine -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Dont try and change the question, are you a fucken hypocrite or not?
Why are you on reddit?
[+]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 8時間前* (8子コメント)
I think it's just a silly double standard to eat meat with the conditions that chickens, cows and pigs are raised in and the horrible lives that they endure and then to kick up a massive fuss about greyhound racing.
Thanks for checking with me, although you are a very typical vegetarian. Couldn't wait to tell me all about it!
[–]mario_snifferSCUMSHINE 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
I reckon giving a shit about dogs but not chickens, cows or pigs is better than not giving a shit about any of them.
[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 8時間前* (0子コメント)
I think it's hypocritical and it's kind of up in the air wherever you want to draw the ethical line. It seems like it is easier just to demonize greyhound racers than face the reality that human beings are apex predators who thrive off of the suffering of animals.
Even as a vegetarian the food that you consume is sourced directly from land that was previously part of the habitat of other animals, every piece of digital technology that you own has materials in it sourced from war torn parts of Africa with child miners and probably assembled in China where people have slave wages.
Nobody is ethically squeaky clean.
do you wear leather shoes? Yes?
Fucken hypocrite.
[–]speedyleedy 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
I think you misunderstand the banning. If 50% of cows were just killed 'because' and that's it, then there would likely be in inquest and the banning of beef farming.
[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 8時間前* (3子コメント)
100% of cows are killed and many are forcibly impregnated every year for milk then killed once their bodies cannot handle getting pregnant again.
[–]speedyleedy -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
of course they're killed. I am sure there are some that end up living a life, but it wouldn't be that many. It's important to note that the calves they give birth to are separated at about 10 days and then either replacement dairy cows and marketed as veal.
The dairy cows themselves are sold off and used for beef.
IF they were killed and dumped, or if the calves were just killed and dumped, then there would be an inquest and probably a change in the industry just like the greyhounds.
I understand that you're vegan, but you've got to understand the differences between produce & farming vs killing,
I'm not a vegan, I just don't see the distinction between being outraged about greyhounds yet nonplussed about the conditions of farmed animals.
Man murdered wife, assaulted his three children
From the animals perspective there isn't a difference.
[–]User_HostileSouth Side 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 8時間前 (6子コメント)
That has to be just about the most pathetic strawman I've ever seen here. Hang your head in shame.
[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
"Oh boy, luckily I called his argument a strawman so now I won't have to consider it!"
[–]User_HostileSouth Side 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
What argument would that be, you muppet? Vegetarianism has nothing to do with dog races and comparing them is dishonest. Move on dude, you've lost this round.
[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
You come off as dishonest, dim witted and intellectually bankrupt. You attempt to argue using silly 'gotchas' I'm sure you have memorized every single fallacy in the book, sorry friend but that won't work on me.
I think you would benefit from broadening your intellectual horizon perhaps by watching documentaries at first until you have enough self esteem to begin reading your first non fiction book. Once you have completed the assigned homework feel free to return and debate me any time you desire. I don't begrudge you for being a knuckle dragging dullard any more than I begrudge the bacteria multiplying within the fecal matter I flush down the toilet every morning.
[–]User_HostileSouth Side -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
TL;DR
[–]gigantic_meaty_ballsBrunswick -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Retreating with your tail between your legs. "Move on dude, you've lost this round".
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(Sorry, couldn't resist)
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