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[–]thrownaway_MGTOW 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Even without that... why would you want to facilitate a child that is half "you" to be placed into the hands of the kind of women* who need to get pregnant via a sperm donor.

Seriously. Why? Do you have some sort of sadistic desire to punish some future bastard children?

And please, don't give me the BS about "continuing your genetic line" -- it really isn't "yours" -- you certainly didn't do anything to create or even select the particular random combination of genes that comprise "you" (and really neither did your parents, they too merely passing on the combinations they were saddled with, etc).

* People can regurgitate the marketing BS and prattle on about "infertile couples" all they want; the reality is that increasingly "sperm donor" and IVF are being used to further the aims of a combination of both lesbians, and extreme feminist "don't need a man" types, as well of course as "post wall" women whose fertility has taken a massive nose dive (in which case they often not only use sperm banks, but also egg banks).

[–]Mgtowmike35[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

You are 150% correct. I didn't think it through.

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Seriously. This is one of the things that both KEPT me from getting married/having a family, and which also gives me some "peace of mind" with the fact that I don't have children.

It wasn't so much JUST the idea that a woman/mother of my children could "divorce-rape" me, and then use the children as a sort of "weapon" to obtain even more money/resources from me (or "enslave" me).

It was the fact that... I would have felt HORRIBLE for having enabled (or been a participant in) a scenario where MY children would be under the control of such a person; and moreover where *I* would essentially be "powerless" (even more so than most men already are, given the "mandatory schooling laws" etc.) as to how the children were raised.

I simply could NOT abide the idea of that; and the more I thought about it, the ONLY way that I would want (or agree) to have children would be if I had at least SOME substantial assurance that I would retain custody of them, control over their home & education, as well as "responsibility" for their needs. Basically DEFAULT father custody.

Anything else -- and there is alas, zero chance or mechanism to create THAT in our current society (other than being a single dad via a surrogate*) -- would be a "dealbreaker" for me.

* something that has really only become viable VERY recently; and isn't without it's own additional concerns/complications (IVF is prone to problems: birth defects, etc).

[–]Mgtowmike35[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. It really is a matter of morals and ethics. We know now the a child without his biological father will suffer in life.

Regardless of the fact that he will have good genes, the mother will screw him up to where he will not be in a position to leverage them for any potential good in this world or himself.

It is not nature vs nurture in this case but a matter of both working together. Good genes are one thing but to take that person and set him on a path with a solid foundation of principles and knowledge is an entirely different thing and not something to be taken lightly.

You sir are a rock of wisdom here. Seriously guys, thrownaway is a wise man and somebody that we should all admire and look up to.

Keep it coming brother.

[–]eagerrangerdanger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idiocracy is already here.

[–]JStheHammer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never give a female your sperm.

[–]CClavin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]youtubefactsbot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]DigitalScetis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

At the time, women who want to get pregnant would say "I just want a baby, that's all. I have enough money for myself and the baby."

Fast forward ten years, and the money runs out. Perhaps an illness. Perhaps a layoff. At that point, nobody is going to blame the woman for doing what she needs to do to get money. It isn't personal. It's just what she has to do.

Moreover, it might not even be her choice. If she goes on public aid, public aid is going to want to know who the father is, so they can collect. I think there was some story about a gay sperm donor who donated to two lesbians in a civil union a few years back. They held the donor not liable to them, but that didn't matter. State aid basically subpoena'd them to give them the name of the father, so the state could start collecting child support.

Not only that, but you don't even know what the laws will do ten or twenty years down the road. If my hunch is correct, and women are going to go bankrupt in greater numbers, all the laws that protect sperm donors might be declared void. You might think you'd be grandfathered in, and from state retroactive enforcement, you would be. But then, forty years later, your child levels a civil suit for backed child support (with interest) just as you are about to retire. Stranger things have happened.

The bottom line is, just because a sperm donor is not held responsible at the time of the donation does not, in any way, preclude the donor from being held responsible in the future. And once it's done, there's no way to mitigate the risk.

[–]mgtow4ever 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

USA has anonymity most countries don't..

[–]lcoyote 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Re: If it weren't for the morons,etc. We've had some good starts with science with the Babylonians and Greeks and Romans until those wacky christians burned down the library at Alexandria. Then Islam was going good in science for three hundred years until the fundamentalist wackos shut that down. Now it seems that the morons have taken over again and we're heading for a new dark age.

[–]ElectricGhostD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think all MGTOW should look into r/antinatalism/

[–]Adaranoy 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nice unwarranted self-importance you got there, douche.

[–]Mgtowmike35[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well if I am smart, which I am, it's not really self warranted is it? Douche....

[–]Adaranoy 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're on a MGTOW subreddit bragging about your below average IQ to a group of strangers who don't give a shit... you're not very smart, are you?

[–]Mgtowmike35[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

First off, I don't have a below average iq; far from it. Second, I am not bragging. I'm simply stating that given the iq curve most people are not that intelligent and it is a shame to see the few that are have their genes die with them.

Do you have a problem with that?

[–]Mgtowmike35[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because to me it sounds like you are projecting your low intelligence in the form of insults.