FBI Directer Comey announcement re:Clinton emails Megathread

pashelinsky · 2016-07-05T16:29:36+00:00

...so that's it? She got away?

MSpainting · 2016-07-05T16:29:23+00:00

Imagine my complete lack of surprise.

If George Bush can essentially make the US go to war over make believe WMDs and not be charged with treason what made people think HRC would ever get charged for emails?

airz23s_coffee · 2016-07-05T16:29:23+00:00

Ahahaha. So many months of people being so sure the indictment was coming.

Reddit is going to be delightful for the next few months.

Vermilion · 2016-07-05T16:29:19+00:00

What kind of agenda shows the worst of Reason of America, the Great Seal Myth on the $1 Bill, in sorting by New?

Simpull_mann · 2016-07-05T16:29:14+00:00

Straight from the statement by FBI director on the investigation of Clinton's Email system: To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.

igetreallybored · 2016-07-05T16:29:12+00:00

ELI5 please? How does she pass Go and collect $200?

djdouken · 2016-07-05T16:29:08+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdeo7Q2E5cE

vbfronkis · 2016-07-05T16:28:53+00:00

I thought ignorance was no defense.

Oh yeah, unless you're named "Clinton."

earnedmystripes · 2016-07-05T16:28:47+00:00

Silly plebs, laws are for poor people.

mikoul · 1分前

USA: The best country where justice is the main value !

^/s

shockakan · 1分前

So now that Hilary isn't going to jail, what company's stocks should I buy if I want a massive return over the next 4-8 years?

HendersonDaRainKing · 1分前

Maj. Jason Brezler sent one unsecured email. One. Simply trying to stop boys being raped.

Mattythebeaver · 1分前

Regardless of the recommendation, the investigation brought to light that Hillary was grossly negligent in the handling of classified information. According to 18 USC 793, Hillary MUST be fined or imprisoned for up to 10 years. [opinion] Considering the severity of what she did what with using her personal server in the land of "significant adversaries'" territory, she should be serving near enough 10 years [/opinion]. Remember, "no one person should be above the law" -- Hillary Clinton. It's time to prove it.

qtyapa · 1分前

CNN is discussing star david trump's tweet, instead of discussing this minor matter.

jziegle1 · 2分前

Well I guess we have to hope Hillary goes through with her "Manhattan project scale assault on encryption" so we can find out what hostile actors she gave access to top secret documents.

Bwhite1 · 2分前

This is a game ender. How can any American accept the current justice system if an average citizen would face life for this, but because its Hillarys its okay... Round 2, we just need to find a new Washington.

PlumbingStick · 2分前

Ive always said it, but deleting emails should not be a crime. I delete spam almost every day

david531990 · 2分前

Comney is just a shill! - some berniebro

"Why the FBI clearing Clinton is the best thing to happen to Sanders' campaign!" - HA Goodman

Jippylong12 · 2分前

It seems to be all about intent. Now I know many of people on Reddit will just see the headline and say that either Hillary is Vindicated or say that the FBI is corrupted and whatnot. Now personally I am not a fan of Hillary at all. When I got into politics Last Summer I was unbiased I guess in terms of who I want to vote for. So I went looking, and found a man I wanted to vote 4 and I supported him and I still do. That being said, I also looked at Hillary and said hey if she wins I'll support her as well. Now I had heard of all the sketchy things about Hillary but I grew up in the South where she is not like so I just thought that it was all an uneducated. talk but as I watched the debates and as I watched the primary season unfold I started to see why people had this image of her. I say all of this because I want people to know where I am coming from. If you look at my history you will see posts on Sanders for president and I want to be transparent and try to say this is not biased.

Now that being said after reading the FBI's statement on the matter I truly believe and support what he has stated. We have to remember to try to look at this from an unbiased point of view and although I personally Bank that Hillary should have been indicted I do not have access to all the evidence like the FBI did. So I take this as the truth and will go with it as should everyone else. But now we move on to his statement and if we look at it closely we will see you what I think is one big theme. That is the incompetence of Hillary Clinton. The whole reason why charges were not recommended is because he determined that she did not purposefully expose this information. Basically the intent was not malicious and it was not malicious because of Hillary's incompetence. He even says it himself of her incompetence.

So the new question to answer is whether or not you would want somebody so incompetent to lead this nation. Someone who created not one but multiple email servers overtime comma who would send work-related emails when they were in a foreign country across a private server , and through all of this could have jeopardized some of the United States operations. I encourage everyone to read the statement and we should have a discussion on whether we want someone who the FBI clearly deems incompetent to hold a secretary of state position and give them even more powers and responsibilities to lead this country.

Delicate-Flower · 2分前

Say hello to our next president. We are so blessed. Who could ask for more?

Woodshadow · 2分前

and we think other governments are corrupt. I would still vote for Clinton over Trump but if this isn't an example of how corrupt and rigged out country is I don't know what is. Rules don't apply to everyone and there is always a loophole. If this was Russia and Putin no one would believe it was fair

HarmonyFlame · 2分前

So laws can be broken so as long as the subject can claim ignorance to the laws, even when its in your TITLE to know these laws??? If i told a judge i had no intent to break the law by selling drugs, i was just providing for my family, I should be getting off scott-free, right?

YOLOSwag_McFartnut · 2分前

He straight up said she's guilty, and had it been anyone else, they would've recommended charges.

That's incredible.

CrackingYs · 2分前

We are witnessing the beginning of a dictatorial dynasty.

Good luck with that, America.

farcetragedy · 3分前

You have to respect a straight shooter like Comey who didn't let politics get in the way. We can all accept this conclusion as the case was thoroughly investigated for months.

I_Hardly_Know-Her · 3分前

ITT: people who didn't watch the conference or read the article saying completely false things

JoeyZasaa · 3分前

GG Trump

mountaintop123 · 3分前

Ignorance of the law is no excuse, if I murdered someone and didn't know it was illegal would I not be put in jail??

Garandhero · 3分前

Not to mention, she perjured herself. She's said for months she sent no confidential or secret info from her private servers. We now know that to be untrue. Still no consequences. Unreal.

mothman83 · 3分前

Can't wait for the conspiracy theories! I am sure we will get some fun ones today

RIP_Betty_White · 3分前

Any normal person would be in big trouble for mishandling classified information, but rules don't apply to Clinton.

Thanks FBI for further proving the corruption of the system.

PoliticianToBe · 3分前

Good. Hail, future President Hillary Clinton! #NeverTrump

labelkills1331 · 3分前

Does this mean that there is precedent being set in regards to not knowing something is illegal and not being in trouble for it? I don't see how this doesn't get turned around on someone else later who does the same thing, but gets in trouble.

huxtiblejones · 3分前

Oh my god, this is absolutely hilarious. It's been months that people have been practically foaming at the mouth, calling Clinton a criminal, saying she deserves prison time, saying that the FBI will surely indict her.

And now I can practically hear the teeth gnashing and the hand wringing and the hair being pulled out. Absolutely fucking hilarious. Especially the number of people here who are apparently more qualified than the FBI to make legal recommendations.

Of course this will change nothing, people will just act like this is evidence that everything is rigged and that they're still right. For many, this was far and away their best and primary argument against Clinton, and it just went up in smoke.

cjluthy · 3分前

Not sure why the Republican House hasn't brought charges in an Impeachment-after-the-fact of Hillary. I believe Congress can bring Articles of Impeachment after the fact, because she was Secretary of State. This trial in which, if she was found guilty, basically nullifies her title after the fact. More importantly, It also disqualifies her from holding future office. It would pass in a second in the House, and the trial in the Senate would surely find something to convict on, even if for a technicality. It would end her shot at President.

This really needs to happen.

MrMolonLabe · 3分前

I don't understand how Reddit can be so "anti-corruption" and "anti-establishment" but when it comes to this its "Oh well, Hillary will do."

cabbage_peddler · 4分前

So, just barely not a criminal? Great, let's make her president.

truthBeUncomfortable · 4分前

The FBI protects the clinton oligarchy. Color me surprised.

Laws only apply to the peasants.

RyanGUK · 4分前

Deffo no clear intent Clinton meant to do it, but that does not mean it's alright and she's going to get off with it.

Clinton fans, replace Clinton with Trump in this situation and you may understand how... Absurd, this is.

Warphead · 4分前

At least now the FBI can get back to their real job of manufacturing terrorists and fighting against the evils of privacy. Anyone got an encrypted iPhone they can pretend matters?

OmeronX · 4分前

Unfortunately what I expected to happen. Funny how they admitted anyone else wouldn't get away with it.

EnhancedGrappler · 4分前

Listen, I think Hilary is evil too, but there's a little thing called scienter that's very important in the law.

IAmMohit · 4分前

Fuck man this is making me too emotional.. and I don't even know why :(

IBlameTheMachine · 4分前

I'll put money on the election being rigged.

brianbrianbrian · 4分前

This is like that Dave Chapelle skit.

"I'm sorry, FBI. I didn't know I couldn't do that."

Well... we'll let you off with a warning!

"I did know I couldn't do that!" ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF

IM_FUCKING_SHREDDED · 4分前

doesn't surprise me.

100jumpingbeans · 4分前

"Recommend that no charges be filed"

I fucking knew they would do this

MilmoWK · 4分前

Thee you have it, ignorance of the law will not get you out of a $10 parking ticket, but apparently risking national security is A-OK.

x2Infinity · 4分前

It's been great seeing people with no legal knowledge whatsoever praise Comey for months on this sub and now he's another evil Hitler protecting the establishment. When you're this deep in the koolaid it doesn't matter anymore. People who believe you can sum a case up in a reddit post aren't going to be swayed by this.

boobopt · 4分前

I just hope Bernie finally drops out and endorses. It's time old man.

-INFOWARS- · 4分前

Fuck the establishment.

Fuck the illuminati.

Fuck the nwo.

Fuck Clinton.

agarret83 · 4分前

Well, posting in this thread was a mistake

pacified69 · 4分前

somebody go hold the donald and sanders4prez

Malaix · 5分前

Well that concludes this election. The unlikely scenario of Clinton getting indicted was the only way Trump or Sanders could get elected. With that removed so goes the last forseeable obstacle to Hillary's first four years. Trump can't beat her in the general. He needed this indictment to grab the presidency.

roxtafari · 5分前

The fact that the FBI "interview" was on a holiday Saturday and the press conference started the first news cycle after the same holiday tells me the fix was in and this was all carefully coordinated and timed. It's like her debate schedule, all managed in her favor while preporting to be neutral. I'm disappointed in Comey today.

hawkwings · 5分前

He said that there is no precedent for prosecuting cases like this. There is no precedent, because this has probably not happened before. If a low level employee did this, she would be fired. Only a high ranking person could even do this. Colin Powell had a server, but laws have changed since then and knowledge about hacking has changed since then.

Some emails were deleted by mistake. If they were using a mistake prone system, they should have not deleted so they could make a second pass. For most personal emails, there is no strong reason to keep them secret unless she's hiring prostitutes or something.

justsomeguy5 · 5分前

Money, and influence, can make anything disappear.

CocoDarlin · 5分前

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TheRealPinkman · 5分前

Unfuckingbelieveable.

My-whatever-account · 5分前

Remember everyone, Hillary sent out paid shills to "correct" comments on Reddit.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/21/hillary-pac-spends-1-million-to-correct-commenters-on-reddit-and-facebook.html

bobthewriter · 5分前

See, she's not evil -- just incompetent.

Neither major party candidate is qualified to be president.

cuteintern · 5分前

Fuck this. Free Snowden. What a load of horseshit.

VSavage · 5分前

Went to law school, this is Criminal Law 101.

The law they were investigating Clinton for is an exception to the rule that ignorance of the law is no excuse. In the law itself, it says that to be guilty of violating that particular law, you must know that what you are doing is illegal. That is why all of this talk about Clinton's intent matters. It is extremely hard to prosecute, and I am not surprised that it is not being prosecuted. The only reason it got this much attention from the FBI at all is because Clinton is important, and the FBI wanted to show that they took it seriously.

PsychMarketing · 5分前

WOW!!! No Intent means No Punishment??? So ... we can now just walk around, and "accidentally" commit crimes, and it's okay? no punishment now??? I can GUARANTEE someone is going to cite this case in a future court case as to why the person is innocent...

Macintosh504 · 5分前

Never Hillary

Killtrend · 5分前

I liken this result to a drunk driving case:

"There's no evidence Clinton meant any harm in doing this"

Well, neither does a drunk driver. He just wants to get home and doesn't give a fuck who's in the way. That's Clinton. Clinton is on a war path for power and drunk or not, she's coming home.

obrazovanshchina · 6分前

So many experts here CERTAIN the FBI is WRONG and CLEARLY the evidence demands charges be brought.

Awesome! You should present your evidence to the FBI's investigators and Director Comey, a Republican, stat. I'm then sure your insider knowledge, expert opinion, and insight will compel the FBI to reopen the case and bring the charges you are certain--experts that you are--demands.

Here. I'll get you started. https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us

American_FETUS · 6分前

When I worked at a hospital, we had a specific break room because of the worry of a medical history being overheard if you made a personal call. This bitch can't even figure out the spam folder while she is passing out free screenings of whats next on the Clinton's agenda.

-INFOWARS- · 6分前

REMEMBER THE nwo

jziegle1 · 6分前

Well at least this puts to rest the preposterous notion that 'Hillary's the most qualified candidate in history.' I'd suspect that claim would have to include understanding basic protocol for handling classified information.

7890h123e98h3d · 6分前

She's losing her security clearance right? That's an administrative punishment. How can you be president without one?

Radiocide · 7分前

This actually silences two groups.

First would be the group that said the email issue wasn't serious. The FBI director disagrees.

Second would be the people that demanded prison time. Not happening.

I'm not sure where we stand at the moment.

aaron_autumn · 7分前

I'm just here to gloat.

CndConnection · 7分前

In the release it mentions that because the FBI could not find evidence of intent, which is supposedly required for an indictment, they will not charge her.

So in the matter of handling classified documents...if you just say "oh well I didn't know and I didn't intend for this to happen" you can get off?

That seems so unbelievably fucking stupid that I have no other way to acknowledge this info other than to just chalk it up to the FBI finding the best and most fancy way to explain "ehhh, we let her off cuz, well she's Hillary and running for president"

I'd just love to see some Judge explain away the bullshit when someone else gets pegged for a very similar crime and mentions "Hey Hillary had no intent and neither did I so I'm good to go right?"

lightninhopkins · 7分前

Hopefully this ends the 15 daily front page articles from crappy sources about her impending indictment. Thank Christ.

uMunthu · 7分前

Even without indictment, Comey saddled her with a gift that will follow her for the rest of the campaign ie two words that will stick: "Extremely careless". Chew on that one for a bit.

kingkarlor · 7分前

jesus better avoid reddit for the next few days lol

Oracle712 · 7分前

This was expected. The establishment would never let their preferred choice go down. Let it had been anyone else though.

dildog · 7分前

So yah ... about that Snowden guy, it's all OK then now...right ??

fonetik · 7分前

Consider their choice. You can piss off the presumptive next president and possibly hand the job over to Donald Trump, or you can let this slide while also making it perfectly clear for others to know that this isn't going to fly when someone else gets caught. The only thing that surprises me is that they did any of this before November.

Fellero · 7分前

Well, there goes berniebros last chance.

Wonder with what sort of Bernie Math they'll come up next to justify why Bernie Sanders is in fact winning.

ukfan758 · 7分前

What would happen if I used a private email (like one from yahoo or a cable company) to view confidential information sent from a company when I was supposed to use their own email service?

PoliticalTheater101 · 7分前

A well connected politician not going down for breaking some law? This is new... Remember Cheney's email controversy?

OhGreatItsHim · 7分前

Can someone do a wellness check on H.A. Goodman.

lapone1 · 7分前

Lest we forget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

JoeIsHereBSU · 8分前

I don't understand. Even if I didn't intend to break the law and did it anyway I'd be in jail already.

j-j-jesus_auntmarie · 8分前

No clear evidence Clinton intended to violate laws

Since when does intent make a difference?

greemmako · 8分前

can we please talk about the policy positions of the candidates now?

BasedBoyScout · 8分前

Look up #followthefoundation or #BreakTheFoundation on Twitter. The amount of data being mined and released to the public is staggering.

NickKurt-Dale · 8分前

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."

What.The.Fuck.

Catbone57 · 8分前

Nobody should be allowed to vote this November unless they have read "The Family" by Mario Puzo.

3VP · 8分前

So James Comey said,

To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.

What I get from this is: although what she did would get her sanctioned or fired if she was a rank-and-file employee, it would not get that rank-and-file employee jail time. And since she is technically not an employee she cannot be sanctioned or fired.


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