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[–]AspiringMathsGuy 8ポイント9ポイント  (13子コメント)

The way people use the word sociopath is so flimsy, I imagine most people that make the "i feel nothing" threads search history to look like: "what's a sociopath?" "will people think im cool if im a sociopath?"

Sociopathy isnt a black and white type of thing, you can have traits of a sociopath and quite a lot of people do. It's almost like autism the way there's a spectrum. When you say most people can relate to a level of sociopathy, they can because almost everyone shows atleast SOME traits of it but that doesn't make you a sociopath, not even close.

[–]1awalt_cupcake[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

There are healthy forms of sociopathy and unhealthy forms like a spectrum.

[–]red_fear 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

What is a healthy form of sociopathy?

[–]evileddy 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

A doctor that can quickly determine who gets to live in an over crowded ER.

[–]1awalt_cupcake[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I will post a new article soon about emotional currency and how you can keep people returning for more positive vibes

[–]AspiringMathsGuy -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

There isn't, naturally it's a disadvantage and you're just making the best of a bad mental illness

[–]Wolander 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well there is a distinction between sociopaths and psychopaths, but in some literature it is conflated. Anyways the point is: Kevin Dutton in The Wisdom of Psychopaths uses a dial analogy. Having some of the traits is good but being a full blown psychopath is not, so you can imagine a continuum but yes both terms are used in a flimsy manner but they can mean the same thing; all depending your stance with psychology and psychiatrity and or philosophy.

[–]Temujin-Khan -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

This post would suggest otherwise.

[–]AspiringMathsGuy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

This post is telling you how to make the most of a mental illness

[–]Temujin-Khan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You said it's a disadvantage, but I fail to see how. If most people are subject to their emotions but a sociopath isn't, that puts the sociopath in a better position for control.

[–]ItalianoVero 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Healthy" is not the right word I believe. What I know for sure is that sociopathic traits are definitely advantageous. If you can make the benefits outweigh the burdens, you're all set.

For instance, I consider myself to be somewhat of a sociopath. I won't go into too much detail but essentially, I feel that I gain a sort of omniscience over social situations, even in ones I'm directly and actively participating in. Since you aren't as emotionally invested, you can make observations about all the elements at play. I sometimes turn even the most basic interaction into a sort of power play through body language or humor or whatever.

There are obvious benefits to this, because you can use your perspective to learn about people and manipulate them. Most of the time it's fairly innocent (i.e. you realize your boss is insecure around you so you compliment him and hope to gain some benefit).

Someone more informed than me can correct me if I'm wrong about sociopathy, but this was my interpretation.

[–]The_Bald_Black 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sociopathy, or Antisocial Personality Disorder, is the disregard of people. Sociopaths are incapable of feeling empathy. Knowing how to play a room doesn't make you a sociopath.

[–]p00pey 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

your definition of sociopath is absurdly wrong. Most of us can 'play a room.' I've been able to quickly identify people's insecurities in literally minutes of interacting with them. I can play most people at work like a fucking minature violin. That doesn't make me a sociopath. I still can empathize, I don't just use and abuse anyone I come across. Read up the definition of sociopathy. It's not what you bbelieve it to be...

[–]red_fear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whether you have any personality disorder or not analyzing human behavior is a kind of a sociopathic endeavor to an extent. You can't really objectively learn about something you are invested/care about. There's a reason that many people with anti-social personality disorder seem to be naturally inclined to cunning. They observe/test etc. people as if they were objects (depending on how high or low on the spectrum they are I suppose) from a very young age. Their utter lack of empathy is what makes them predisposed to learn cunning/emotional manipulation.

Glorifying sociopathy is counter-productive though in my opinion. Some traits of them can be admirable (fearlesness comes to mind).

[–]allworkiseasywork 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've often suffered with giving people too much credit. Chances are they really are as stupid as they come across.

[–]1awalt_cupcake[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Projection his a rational fallacy

[–]Mildo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This post feels blue pill trying to be red pill.

[–]RedEmpor 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

further reading material you can recommend?

[–]1awalt_cupcake[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I recommend the Gervais principle for further understanding of social games.

[–]maxrp 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

whats the difference between a psychopath and sociopath?

[–]QQ_L2P 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're both on the same train tracks, just one (psychopath) is further down.

Sociopath understands that there are consequences for his actions, but his desire supersedes his fear of the consequences almost unilaterally.

A Psychopath doesn't care what the consequences are. He wants to do something so he will do it. Oh, I ran over your baby while doing it? Unlucky mate.

[–]IamPetard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In medical terms there is no such thing as either. It all belongs under Antisocial personality disorder and it is a spectrum. I believe that you could say a sociopath is someone who can control themselves while psychopaths usually end up killing people. You'll never find anyone in the business say these words though as they have been removed from the medical vocabulary

[–]1awalt_cupcake[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Follow the links I have provided

[–]evileddy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/02/12/differences-between-a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/

Sociopath Pop Culture Examples: The Joker in The Dark Knight, JD in Heathers, Alex Delarge in A Clockwork Orange

Psychopath Pop Culture Examples: Dexter, Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men, Henry in Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, Patrick Bateman in American Psycho

[–]Endorsed Contributorstonepimpletilists 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you haven't added it to your reading list, I suggest 'wisdom of psychopaths'. it's a great read, and a lot more insightful look, into the positive traits of those lacking empathy

[–]1awalt_cupcake[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I recently ordered it. I have 'The Dictator's handbook" to finish first in queue

[–]espero 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sociopathy is not defined as a -pathy at all. It is not a condition. It certainly is not defined by the DSM (psychiatry handbook of illnesses). Therefore dabbling in sociopathy is an exercise in semantics. Psychopathy most certainly is, but sociopathy is not.

[–]WarmApfelPi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Regarding the campfire, frame, and the shit test; the woman shit tests your frame by dumping water on the campfire to see how you handle her action and the cold, all while pretending she didn't know it would put out the fire. It seems the blue way to handle it would be to rush to try to keep it going throwing on some dry logs and blowing til you pass out. The red being I'll take back my spare blanket since you didn't have the forethought to get one, and enjoy the cold. Blow my fire or go start your own.

[–]farendsofcontrast -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

"A woman doesn't know how to start a fucking fire. It's your fucking job. Her job is to help keep the fire burning. That much she can do. When the fire is out, women will not show any effort to help restart the fire. They are cold and they want to stay warm. They see Chad has a nice fire burning and leaves you for the warmth."

Damn brah. I couldn't agree more, reading this felt like a wake up slap right in your face from this old strong man with calloused hands who you look up to a lot. TRP is that old man always looking out for you. I already understood this much but somehow reading that made me feel this.

[–]1MarcusDavidson -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

All the socially awkward introverts think they have autism, and all the frat boy wannabe alphas think they have sociopathy.

[–]1awalt_cupcake[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do not comment if you're not contributing attention-whore