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[–]daveyp2tm 9ポイント10ポイント  (17子コメント)

Mata to Everton then :(

[–]PhilJonesOnCorners 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not the worst. He's an asset to the PL but just too slow and defensively weak for Jose's setup. Still think we should get 25m+ for him if we can. Honestly don't see him starting for United in any competition with Mkhi coming in and he's too good for the bench.

[–]daveyp2tm 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

But he's so damn loveable.

[–]_WhatIsReal_Martial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How long left on his contract here? I'd say 25m is too low, especially to a fellow prem club. I'd be disappointed with that honestly.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

He can do so much better.

Wouldn't mind him staying. Jan transfer if it doesnt work out

[–]YoungPappy 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Can he really do much better though? Everton are looking to become a solid club and are seemingly ready to spend large amounts with their new owner. People need to realise that Mata hasn't performed for 3 seasons in a row now. He's already 28 years old and is supposed to be in his prime but it could be possible that he peaked early. When we bought him I expected someone like Rodriguez but he has never performed for us consistently.

Don't look too deep into last season's position, Martinez is simply a shit manaer.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Can't understand the 'hasnt performed' thing. Especially as he's played under 2 managers who have both been sacked for poor football.

He's been incredibly important. He's scored against Liverpool, City, in the FA Cup final, numerous winning goals and important assists. He may not have met expectations of some, but I think he's a fantastic player to have and do not want to see him leave.

Everton is a step down there's no doubt. When have Everton been good in the PL? Highest they've ever finished is 4th.

[–]YoungPappy 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Can't understand the 'hasnt performed' thing.

So you'd say he has performed for us? All those times where he was invisible, slow, weak, constantly ruining counter attacks and slowing down play are completly ignored because he had some good moments in 3 seasons of being a regular starter? If he didn't have those moments he would be thanking god Everton came close to him. He had 6 goals and 5 assists in 38 games last season, 9 goals and 4 assists the season before that and 6 goals and 4 assists the season before that (These stats are PL only), are you telling me he is too good for Everton with those stats? Even if he spent parts of that on the wing facts are he was still dissapointing at CAM or did you forget all the times where people were begging for him to play at CAM only for him to do nothing the entire game?

Everton is a step down there's no doubt. When have Everton been good in the PL? Highest they've ever finished is 4th.

Of course Everton is a step down, I doubt anyone will tell you otherwise. I'm convinced Everton can get a Europa league spot for next season with the right investments and that's what Mata is based on the last 3 seasons, a Europa League player.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's not been great, but has certainly been useful. It can be put down to horrible football that we played, which wasn't just him. If everyone was having good seasons around him whilst he was stuck in the mud i'd accept it, but he was on pace with even our best attacking players last season. Nobody was exceptional all season long and attacking wise we were awful, he can't be singled out.

I don't think he will stay cause Jose doesn't like his style. But i think if he wanted to make it work with Mata, he probably could with a better play style.

I wouldn't see them as an attractive prospect IMO. I hope we dont sell to another PL team.

[–]YoungPappy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nobody was exceptional all season long and attacking wise we were awful, he can't be singled out.

Martial has been great ever since he came here. Even 18 year old Rashford has performed well in this system.

It can be put down to horrible football that we played, which wasn't just him.

Once you are unable to perform under 3 different managers you have to wonder if you might be the problem.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Marital and Rashford are 2 natural strikers to be fair.

He may be the problem yes, but he has not had a spell at Utd under a manager playing decent football. Mata won POTY twice at Chelsea when he had a team built around him. He has not had that chance at Utd. If Mou were to give him a chance i think he'd be great, but we already have other options, especially in a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3

[–]daveyp2tm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely. In his defence he's had two ropey managers, but then I guess he now has a manager who didn't have a lot of faith in him, so that's not great either.

[–]spoofexKing Cantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reckon he'd be a hit at Valencia again. Surprised how casually Everton have come in for him with seemingly no contest.

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

We need to draw it out, plenty of clubs can afford 25m+

[–]xtianguz 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

He probably doesn't want to move house. The only way to get him to agree is Everton because we obviously won't sell to scum or city.

Pretty obvious Mou wants him gone and thinks he'll be dressing room poison if he's benched.

[–]ChegismDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Burnley or Stoke it is then!

[–]mrgentlemanbr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We can't try use Mata to bring Barkley?

[–]itsandercontrolJose Mourinho 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

[–]313d44Jose Mourinho 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I want to believe.

[–]MonsieurRyanGoss 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Most likely bullshit on the fact that if we can afford Pogba then so can Madrid.

[–]Luxuslev 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I actually think Real Madrid are in some slump. They are getting punished by the Financial Fair Play rules soon, and that means they have spent as much or more money than they have.

The new premier league money kicks in now, United can easilly afford him.

[–]FuckOffBorisJohnsonBlind 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

All I have heard is them being punished about the transfers of underage players not FFP

[–]redaleksJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Source on Madrid being punished for FFP violations? Madrid have turned a profit in most recent years as far as I'm aware and I've read nothing about them being in trouble for FFP issues. Are you confusing their transfer ban with FFP?

[–]yuma712Shaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They got hit with a 15m fine too.

[–]spoofexKing Cantona 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Madrid have hit the wall on their Wages supposedly. Which is why Kroos and James (and to a lesser extent, Benzema) have all been names floating around lately. Perez is insane with spending, but he never lets the wage bill exceed 50% of the total income.

Signing Pogba and sticking him on a silly wage means about 4 others instantly get pay increases to match the old 'Galatico' wage setup they offer to superstars.

[–]knoxisbackTevez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And the fact BEIN Sports is reporting this, lol

[–]parkerj9617 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm very worried that IF we get Pogba, it's going to end up like Di Maria, especially if it's true that he would rather be with Real or Barca

[–]ouguy2017 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

When is everyone expecting Mkhitaryan to be officially announced?

[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Tomorrow morning so that it can be addressed with Jose's unveiling.

[–]313d44Jose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was under the impression the Jose thing was Tuesday the 5th. Could be wrong.

[–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sounds about right. Funnily enough my previous comment was insinuating a Jose reveal on Monday the 4th, never realised we were already in Monday here in the UK.

[–]knoxisbackTevez 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tuesday or Wednesday

[–]92tilinfinityand 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Talk of the young one Will Hughes being on Mourinho's shortlist. Tipped as a potential midfield ace for years but is coming off a rough injury. I would fully condone the club taking a shot on him. He is English and if there is one thing our academy and youth teams is lacking it's the box to box playmaking presence in the center of the midfield.

[–]physlab 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would love Will Hughes too, but it's only The Sun linking him to us.

[–]92tilinfinityand 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Didn't read it through the Sun but that's a bummer. Hopefully there is something to the rumour though. Still early in the window

[–]MadaraTheUchihahttp://www.howmanypremierleaguemedalshasstevengerrardwon.com/ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any news on Mata to Everton?

[–]BlackBossalini 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

TOP 10 midfielder. Every thread until it happens.

[–]physlab 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

TOP 10 midfielder.

Mind listing your top 10 for us?

[–]HaroldGuyJi-Sung Neville 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not OP, not even sure on the whole sign a top 10 centre mid thing but was just interested in thinking about who that would be and what other people think. So mine, completely bias and off the top of my head, would be, and in no particular order

Verratti, Iniesta, Kroos, Modric, Matuidi, Rakitic, Pogba, Marchisio, Vidal, De Rossi

It's tough, honourable mentions to Tiago, Alonso, Krychowiak, Pjanic, Koke, and lots of others I've forgotten.

I guess what I've learnt though, is that I'd be very surprised if we signed a top 10 CM, maybe top 20/25 would be more realistic

[–]lazyassedartistTier -1 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

What do you guys think about Matuidi? Much better chance of getting him than Pogba and there are reports that PSG are willing to sell

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/12045165/Chelsea-transfer-news-and-rumours-Blues-clear-to-sign-Blaise-Matuidi-from-Paris-Saint-Germain.html

Old but hopefully their stance hasn't changed

[–]spoofexKing Cantona 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

No better than what we already have. Hence the reason we're linked with Pogba.

[–]lazyassedartistTier -1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmm I think Matuidi is better than all our mids but I see your point

[–]holden147Schweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he would be a great box to box option. Reminds me a lot of Kante.