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[Transfer Round Up & Discussion] July 3rd (self.reddevils)

GreedyDiabeetusMemphis が 投稿

Silly season has returned for the 4th summer on /r/reddevils!

Most of you know the drill.

For those who don't...From today until the window closes, a transfer round-up & discussion thread will be made every day. In these threads, ANYTHING can be talked about. Any player, in or out, any transfer fee, anything!

Now, with these threads starting, this means that rumours submitted as separate posts will be removed unless they are from reliable sources!

Confirmed Transfers

IN

Player From Fee
Eric Bailly Villareal £30,000,000
Zlatan Ibrahimovic PSG Free Transfer
Henrikh Mkhitaryan Borussia Dortmund £26,000,000

OUT

Player To Fee
Nick Powell Released n/a
Victor Valdes Released n/a

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[–]jcamilo70 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still think we need a midfielder. A World class one.

If we don't get Pogba, having Renato stolen from under our nose will hurt, that kid keeps looking better and better every day.

[–]mufcirclejerk 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

The MoS peg us as having "moved a step closer" on Pogba.

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Man...that is a serious fuck load of money. Fucken do it.

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely would pay that for Pogba, I don't think he'd spent his entire career here but for sure we could build a team around him for a few years. He's that good.

[–]CosmicGravyMemphis 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Strange we didn't announce Mkhitaryan today but Dortmund did. I wonder why that was

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Probably them jumping the gun after accepting the bid. We're probably waiting for medical/contract officially signed.

[–]CosmicGravyMemphis 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bit unprofessional, especially after them poking fun at us and City for our league positions etc.

[–]IwanJones102 YEARS! 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dortmund probably want to get him out the way and focus on their own signings. He's already in Manchester so I'd assume medical/contract/pictures/#MkhiTime/announcement will be tomorrow/day after tomorrow

[–]Savage9645Rooney 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Assuming we don't get Pogba (because I don't want to get my hopes up) what other CMs do you think we'll be in for? Also do you think we'll be signing an additional CB?

Side question, who gets sold and how much can we get for them?

[–]MohbaMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It doesn't seem like there are many WC ready available for us to pickup. If Madrid make waves in the Market you can bet we will attempt to pick up either Kroos or James.

[–]dleazzzRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (26子コメント)

Honestly, do you guys think we need Pogba? In my opinion, our midfield is pretty solid.

[–]CalimariaeSolskjaer 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

  • We don't have much creativity in our midfield.
  • Two of our midfielders are at the wrong side of 30.
  • Fellaini is a wildcard.
  • Schneiderlin hasn't really adapted well yet.
  • Herrera is wildly inconsistent (a solid run of matches might solve that).

[–]doesnt_like_pantsJose Mourinho 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still think our midfield is decidedly average.

Schweiny isn't top tier anymore and doesn't have the impact he used to. Carrick can still be amazing but his consistency is going. Herrera and Schneiderlin have both been solid if unspectacular but I expect both of them to improve under Mou. Fellaini is a square peg for a round hole. Mata who knows what's gonna happen with him..

[–]calthy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, we have a lot of midfielders but no one that is really world class.

[–]Rreknhojekul 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's not many midfields in the world that wouldn't be improved by the addition of Pogba

[–]HuzaifaElahiTony Henry 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

  1. Herrera is good at best, bang average if not given his lack of consistency.

  2. Schweinsteiger can't be relied on to stay fit and is well over the hump.

  3. Carrick is out of legs.

  4. Schneiderlin is solid and I think he can do well under Jose, fair enough but not exactly a prospective world class player either.

  5. Fellaini is a detriment in midfield.

  6. Blind is exceptionally average in midfield and shouldn't be more than a rotational option for any serious title contenders.

  7. Rooney is also over the hump and his midfield reliability remains to be seen.

  8. TFM is too raw to even be considered for the first team.

  9. Mata should be on his way really.

A big bunch that can play there doesn't make it a good bunch - I think our midfield is bang average, one midfielder is an absolute must, letting one go and buying two wouldn't be a crazy demand either if it wasn't too big of a one window overhaul. It's not even a case of young names not being there yet, they just genuinely aren't good enough and are unlikely to be good enough - Morgan and Herrera aren't kids and Blind lacks the skillset for example.

Our midfield looks like shit compared to say, Arsenal, let alone the elite sides.

[–]M4NUN1T3DRojo 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

How come to many jose will make memphis better, but dont say the same for our midfielders?

[–]WisegoatMartial 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Age.

[–]M4NUN1T3DRojo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herrera and schneid got a good 4 years to be had with us. Herrrra could easily play the oscar while schneiderlin can go back to his so'ton form.Matic had his best season under jose at the same age.

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Memphis is a lot younger and looks like he could be world class, Carrick and Schweini are old, Hererra hasn't ever show WC potential IMO, Fellaini the same and Schneiderlin whilst he could be solid again I don't think ever showed potential like Memphis.

[–]HuzaifaElahiTony Henry 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Memphis should improve by age - he's 22. Morgan, Blind and Herrera are 26 - supposedly in their prime or on the verge of it - he can make them better, not harder after last season under LvG (maybe barring Blind) but not good enough. Xhaka, a fit Wilshere, Cazorla, Ramsey, Ozil - they all waltz into our team.

[–]M4NUN1T3DRojo 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Matic was the same age when he got bought again and playing in a top 3 league for the first time aswell

[–]HuzaifaElahiTony Henry 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

He was 24/25 but more importantly, had a superior skillset - you can just look at Blind and what he's physically and technically capable of to see that he simply doesn't have much of a ceiling.

[–]M4NUN1T3DRojo 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Blind is technically very good but i agree with his physicallity

[–]HuzaifaElahiTony Henry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Technically good for a LB or a CB and is good with reliable passes to recycle possession - he's not much of a dribbler, his touch isn't anything special and he takes a fair few touches to get the ball out of his feet (similar to Mata) and slows down play. I'll give him credit for his good long ball distribution though.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

We have - Herrera, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Carrick & Rooney for CM positions. Blind can play there too. The issue we have is that Rooney & Blind aren't natural midfielders, and Carrick & Basti are ageing. Rooney isn't young himself.

Depends what formation we play I think. If we play a 4-2-3-1 i dont see the need for another midfielder right now. We'd be stacked If we play a 4-3-3, Pogba signing would make more sense...

If we don't sign him i wont be too disappointed.

[–]mufcirclejerk 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

LVG and all that, but we did look shite in midfield for huge portions of last season. There's nobody dynamic who can carry the ball or pose a threat on goal.

Schweinsteiger, Carrick, Rooney are injured often and all take time to get back to form.

Fellaini isn't good enough. We know that.

Herrera might be decent in a three but I don't think he's starter quality for Manchester United. Conceptually I think of him as being similar to Rojo: top targets weren't available but we needed a competent body. He will be a squad player next term.

Schneiderlin is good enough but needs support.

[–]clg93 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I actually think Herrera is a lot better than what we've seen so far. He looked quality in that run of games towards the end of the first season under LVG where we beat City, Liverpool etc, linked up really well with Mata, imagine what he could do with Mkhitaryan! I think if Herrera is given a little more freedom (I know Mou isn't mr freedom) he could really excel, we won't be as rigid as we have been the last 2 seasons.

[–]mufcirclejerk 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I actually think Herrera is a lot better than what we've seen so far.

Agree, but if a player like Pogba is attainable…

[–]clg93 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd drop Ander for Pogba in a heartbeat! But I'm happy for him to have a chance if no top class options are available this summer.

[–]dleazzzRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why am i gettign downvoted for having a opinion, grow the fuck up people

[–]StannisJrScholesy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to reddit

[–]EpicFloydMata 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are a few subs on reddit where you will get upvoted for posts relevant to the topic that help drive debate, and downvotes don't mean "I disagree with your perspective." This is not one of those subs.

[–]Junkrg 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can think of a few reasons You just asked a question without any sort of explanation. Secondly, you said our midfield was solid, which I think majority of people would agree, but why can't we get better ? Third, you asked if we need to add a world class player to our squad. Yes we need to add as many world class players to our squad regardless of what position they play. We are United, we make a lot of money, we need to spend money to improve our squad.

[–]TIDZ3Rash-Daddy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do you care about downvotes

[–]GarethGore 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

really? I don't think so at all, Mata is okay, Herrera is inconsistent, Carrick/Schweini are over 30, Fellaini can do a job and Schneiderlin didn't have a great season. I'd love to see Pogba and Herrera with Schneiderlin behind. Or Pogba with Rooney and Herrera behind and Schweini protecting the defence.

[–]dleazzzRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess, but i believe Shnederlin and Herrera can become great midfielders under Mourinho, and hoping our midfield will consift of Rooney-Herrera-Schenderlin. Perhaps even have Schewsteiger instead of Schnederlin or Herrera. I do agree that we Fellaini is a wildcard and could be useful in some situations.

[–]Junkrg 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Mata to Everton ???

[–]HuzaifaElahiTony Henry 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Almost sure he'd be Spain bound if he leaves

[–]Junkrg 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not sure about that. He has played in England too long not sure if he would go back.

[–]HuzaifaElahiTony Henry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Playstyle in Spain suits him much better, would probably be wanted by any of the non top-3 sides in the league there.

[–]mufcirclejerk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Talksport only people I can find reporting it first hand. Would be a surprise.