/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

The mods are just fucking terrible there. The actual users are a little better but the mods are so easily triggered it's embarrassing. I've never once dared to post there (although I lurk) because you can get banned for anything.

This is coming from someone who is pro-feminism, anti-racist etc.

>>759177

I got banned for defending the use of slurs on /leftypol/ as a purely hollow symptom of Chan linguistics that has nothing to do with any actual bigotry (I use the same damn terms on here with impunity, but would never dare say them in real life, and recognize they have an entirely different use on 4/8chan) - literally got banned for "ambiguity". It's pathetic. Any discourse that didn't completely conform to the ultra-id, ultra-sectarian pro-easily triggered camp was just immediately banned.

Like. I got 6 PM's within 2 hours from people who'd been banned and muted telling me to just not bother, or to not fuck with the mods. It's not actually a socialist board, it's just a masturbatory echo chamber about how great Lena Dunham is.

>>759183

It's probably run by the same people.

Posted there in defense of /leftypol/ last night.

Actually got one post in agreement with me.

The others were basically "muh slurs"

>>759162

>Also, I got banned.

NATURALY!

>>759187

>Lena Dunham

She's just terrible.

>>759276

The funniest part is that these losers think they can fight in an actual revolution, but hearing some bad words triggers them into curling up and crying.

>>759276

It might have been me, actually, I was legitimately surprised to find there were 2 people even kind of defending this board. Was it the one about how when leftypol raided some subs they used slurs and how that was indicative of their eeeeevil fasicst origins?

Sadly that mod is one of the better ones on r/socialism. A Trot (CWI) so closer to classic Marxism.

>>759323

I'm the second commenter and I'm really glad to see you were a leftypoler after all, it sounded too lucid to be by a redditor.

Also important to note I didn't get banned until later today, almost a full 24 hours after that comment, when my own thread gained traction.

To change/subvert r/socialism you need to be able to post there. So set up a duplicate account and use a proxy when you post there. Learn to stop just short of the guardrail. And stay clear of the mods.

>>759336

I kinda figured

I haven't been banned, but then again I haven't replied to any of those posters yet

>>759336

I've been getting a lot of supportive messages from people who don't want to interact with me in the public sub sphere but who explicitly endorse the shit I and other leftypolers have posted. One actally asked for the link to /leftypol/!

Second time around for me. Got caught up in the drama that involved the starter of r/socialism what a year ago? Wish I knew of this board. Dissidents definitely need a gathering spot.

>>759362

They probably won't like it here.

Of course I disavow any knowledge of that nest of reactionary wreckers known as /leftypol/

>>759287

https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/4qej5o/lets_talk_about_brocialists/

Just look at the pure concentrated cancer in that thread.

r/socialism is just liberals pretending to be socialists.

The very fact that they use terms like "class essentialism" in a negative connotation, shows that they they have thrown Marx out of the window, and are either drinking the liberal feminist koolaid or appealing to BLM retardation.

>>759369

That's what I said with due warning.

>>759372

Im the one who started this thread because I was so fucking fed up with the meaningless total moniker of brocialist. It gets really bad at some points, most of the highest up voted comments are from people with 'marxist' flair who unendingly argue that oppression is discovered from class or material circumstances completely.

You do have to keep in mind the demographic on r/socialism. We are talking new initiates to what passes for the contemporary campus left. There is a definite 'Lord Of The Flies' dynamic present.

>>759372

>Did you really say SJW? For fucks sakes thats not even what they call themselves. They are wokes. The only people I have seen who use SJW unironically are liberals, mostly because they use it as an insult and refuse to call them by their real name

>They are workers

Implying those shitters have worked a day in their college educated champagne socialist lives.

>>759424

Did they mean to say workers??? I genuinely thought they were intentionally calling them 'wokes' a la so aware now because of Tumblr. This comment just became so much more absurd and notable.

>>759424

>>759432

No, wokes is honestly what they call themselves.

I think it started on Black Twitter? Not sure honestly.

>>759424

>Wokes

>Not workers

I should probaly take a rest.

>>759424

>The only people I have seen who use SJW unironically are liberals

apology for poor english

when were you when liberal as a politics term dies

i was read kapital by marx when adam smith ring

'liberal is die'

'no'

and you?????????????

>>759442

Is there a real feud between self declared SJWS and self declared Wokes? What the fuck. I can't keep up with any of this.

>>759477

No I think that comment is saying that SJWs call themselves Wokes

>>759162

There is the occasional good discussion there, but I'm convinced the better part of moderation and the users are liberals who like the color red.

Black people slang used to be cool, then i think they ran out of ideas and became the swag woke chill people with zero chill.

yuck

As someone who started posting on 4chan in 2006, it saddens me to see how common it is for chan posters to use reddit. I still can't figure out the format of the site because I browse for more than 5 minutes without leaving in disgust.

>>759579

I finally figured out how the format works, but it's still just not satisfying and easy to use. Imageboard formats are pretty much perfect for me.

>>759579

Personally I refuse to associate myself with any system that uses rep or karma, since it's pretty much the complete establishment of elitism an cliques, an just begs for it to be abused.

>>759579

Reddit is everything I hate about traditional forums dialed up to an even higher degree of cliqueishness and groupthink.

>>759187

>slurs

What slurs does /leftypol/ use…. or am I just immune to them all?

>>759580

>>759587

>>759594

Not long ago I decided to see what /r9k/ is like these days out of boredom. Found myself in a 4chan nostalgia thread. Truly the old guard is the bastion of board culture.

>he says while posting on a board where virgins complain about the world

>>759579

Originalfag here, circa 2003 4chan and 2006 reddit, reddit used to be good for discussion before the SJWs and stormfags, it still is if you know where to go and stay out of the liberal and reactionary subreddits. And I hate to say it, other than /leftypol/, it's the only fucking place I can have a conversation about something anymore without retards coming in and shitting /pol/ autism everywhere(even fullchan is someone better these days in certain respects). But you're not going to find any actual good discussion or ciritcal non-faggot criticism anywhere, for that you're out of luck unless your interests are gardening or ham radios.

>>759604

4chan really has been split in two. On boards other than /pol/, if some /pol/yp tries spreading their bullshit, it's basically guaranteed someone will b2/pol/ them which will trigger arguments.

At least its not taken for granted like on the other major boards on this site. I got banned from /gg/ for mocking mods that called /pol/ their allies.

>>759600

Faggot, nigger, etc.

lel, they seem to think we are an ML circlejerk. Fucking rich from them. Half of the posters there have unironic mao flairs.

>>759612

>tfw there are core posters who have been posting anonymously on 4chan and now here for years

If it were a named forum, we'd probably all know each other and be friends. And yet, because it would be named we'd probably hate each other because we've probably all had serious disagreements and called each other out.

What a world we live in.

>>759600

Autist, nigger, faggot, bislut, whore, etc. There's a lot. Like I said, they seriously don't bother me because they're so untethered from the actual meaning.

>>759579

>>759601

>>759612

I started using 4chan and specifically /r9k/, /x/ and /mu/ in about 2007 when I was 12 and occasionally come back just to remember what it felt like to be that age and so deeply immersed with the website and specific boards before I got perma b&. I hate the direction all three of them have taken, it just annoys and somehow depresses me to even lurk anymore, and I have to rely on Reddit for activity.

>>759616

It's sort of a nice thought, I think. I know that arguing with anonymous fuckwits has definitely improved my ability to discuss things in general.

>>759612

I know exactly what this is that you are saying.

A fucking decade my man, how time flies.

>>759624

If you haven't noticed yet, /leftypol/ is addicted to arguing about stupid shit. The fact that people here take up as their hobby to debate with /pol/tards is beyond me.

>>759618

Was /r9k/ even around then? I remember moot setting it up as an experiment where no image could ever be reposted. I got bored with it fairly quickly and stuck to /sp/ and /tg/ until they turned to shit. Also /mlp/. Of course, I shitposted on /b/ but only until 2009 and the rise and fall of Chanology.

>>759618

>tfw i have aspergers and use the word autist frequently to insult people

>>759617

Not that guy, but I tried to search for that nostalgia /r9k/ thread, its somewhat informative, but the archive doesn't have search enabled on that board for some reason.

My advice: watch this shit and you'll realise 4chan was always shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3YsEn_jiY

http://tanasinn.info/wiki/Complete_History_of_4chan

>>759617

This. I didn't start 4chan until 2009. I still don't think I can call myself an oldfag even when it's obvious most users are very new.

>>759630

I went to one of those dressed as Anonymous. I remember singing Never Gonna Give You Up. Good lord.

>>759633

You missed the best days of 4chan, but after seven years you are an oldfag, provided you did a sufficient amount of lurking.

>>759638

Yeah. I remember thinking /b/ was the pinnacle of humour. I now cringe whenever someone calls an image macro a "meme".

Hell, I cringe whenever someone talks about memes offline. It's embarrassing. And yet you can actually see it on tv. It's fucking surreal.

>>759640

As an 06 faggot, it amazes me that there are people who started in 2010 who have been here 6 years. Like, fuck.

>>759642

Fuck off autist

>>759640

My main board was /a/ so I couldn't get away without lurking. Even if I missed the best years I'm incredibly nostalgic for what /a/ used to be.

>>759645

/a/ was my first board after /b/. I left because I don't like watching cute girls doing cute things. As shit as /v/ is, at least they have better taste than /a/.

But I'll always respect /a/'s elitism. Other boards like /v/ and /tv/ lost their elitism over time and became /b/ lite.

>>759644

I'd post a sad anime face, but I don't feel like expending the effort to look for one. No need to be mean, anon.

>>759651

I was referring to my use of the term autist.

You autist

>>759630

To be perfectly honest the users back then must have been younger, it was also pretty much an anime site back then, 4chan was just crude teenage absurdist humor, it was like the "cool" highscool kids club.

Today 4chan is total crap. Only a few boards have withstood the influx of the massive amount of new members. I would count /lit/,/r9k/, /tg/ and /mu/ as the last boards that have survived with their board culture intact.

>>759656

I'm confused. What happened?

>>759660

Lets be real, 4chan was worse than reddit back then. 13-15 year olds making memes is cringe as fuck.

4chan had parts of it get a lot better over time, but faggots from reddit and /pol/ shit it up. It became both more normie and more extremist at the same time. No fun allowed tbh.

>all these oldfags

And now we are here talking about starting a communist revolution. When it happens we have to say that we did it for teh lulz.

>>759661

dont worry about it bby

>>759666

Well, now I fucking have to worry about it, satan.

>>759663

Only in retrospect. At the time it scared the shit out of everyone.

>>759669

Which is funny really.

Now days all the normies think they have a right to be mollycoddled on twitter and facebook when they share their idiotic opinions. Those of us who have been here for a decade tell them to fuck off and all of a sudden the media goes on and on about "cyber bullying"

like nigga close your eyes

>>759672

what anime

>>759650

/a/ was my main after /b/ too. I liked the comedy SoL shows as well as the rest. My interest in anime is fairly broad so I don't feel left out when discussion revolved around cute girls doing cute things or whatever the main trend is. /v/ never appealed to me because by the time I checked it out it was already /b/ 2.0. I don't think their taste is better than /a/ at all. They are just more casual and thus only watch the good action oriented anime. /a/ only talked about SoL so much because that was 90% of the new anime getting released and /a/ focuses on currently airing anime discussion.

>>759660

Last I checked /a/'s culture was still intact albeit in a watered down state with more shitposting than I ever remember seeing.

>>759673

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmL72sgVdAQ

The perfect representation of my country

>>759681

4chan /a/ has unironic naruto threads.

it's borked.

>>759660

>/r9k/

HA

That board used to be something of a "gentleman's /b/"

But that was a long, long time ago…

I'm glad that a decent amount of /leftypol/ seems to like grand strategy games, since /gsg/ is almost nothing but shitposting now

/leftygsg/ when?

>>759688

>/leftygsg/ when?

There was a thread of that a week or so ago, it was pretty fun. Pretty much all generals have gone to trash though, /vg/ is a terrible fucking board.

>>759688

I remember when it was basically the green text board before virgins took over. God, a time before wojack and pepe. Can you imagine. I remember when people unironically posted cool guy/troll face and said trolled. Then reddit started abusing black and white faces and rage comics and all of a sudden it was taboo.

Also, I've always meant to try a GSG. I like games like age of empires, warcraft and fire emblem - could you recommend me something?

>>759683

When they started allowing Naruto threads most /a/nons were totally against it. It was mod enforced bullshit. I imagine now it is just tolerated, but I've been out of touch the past couple of years so maybe I haven't noticed how bad things have gotten on my occasional visits.

>tfw this thread about an idiotic website turned into nostalgia about a different idiotic website.

You guys make me miss the more innocent days. I'd say around 2012, or maybe 2013 onwards is when it all fell apart.

Not that it was ever great.

>>759697

Personally I've sank dozens of hours to Stellaris and EUIV, Paradox is like my crack cocaine dealer.

>>759698

I occasionally go over there for a thread or two when an episode or chapter just comes out for the sake of hype, since even though full /a/ has better quality discussion it's really slow.

I can stomache that much, but no more. It's gotten really bad.

>>759701

Even 2012 was pretty shit m8. I'd say the definitive shift was early 2007. Someone once pointed out that's when cell phones with internet access became popularized with normalfags.

That's still subjective, though, in the end. I've been posting on imageboards since 2004, and even though I've got some thick nostalgia for those times, I'd have loved to experience what the net was like before the eternal september.

>>759701

Yeah, I mean, things were in decline before that, but it was when /pol/ was made that shitposting and general board quality went into free fall. They brought the worst influx of newfags in the site's history because they refused to adhere to board culture except.

>>759710

/pol/ was bound to happen once /new/ got made and deleted, that culture was given proof that it could make enough of a fuss to get what they want. /k/ got completely fucked by the /pol/ crowd after /n/ got deleted, but it pretty much kept to /k/ up until someone decided to push that audience to /new/.

>>759708

I just abandoned 8/a/ because the /pol/ posting got so annoying. I actually don't even bother much with image boards outside of /leftypol/ now. It's kind of sad. I might try to go back to 4/a/ and/or 8/a/. This board grinds away at my sanity.

>>759710

I never went on /new/. But for a while I posted on /int/ which was alright. But after /new/ got deleted it descended into idiocy. Mods got a little extreme admittedly. I remember mocking a racist once with "hurr niggers" and I got autobanned for saying niggers.

Then they made /pol/ it was all over from that point.

>>759710

pol is the only board carrying on the culture of trolling normal faggots that should be /B/'s gimmick.

The world wasnt always like this, no tumblr, no sjw's, pol just cant help trolling these retards.

Not their fault they started a movement and got donald trump elected gop nominee

>>759712

If moot knew better he could have just not made /pol/. We'd have had far-right shitposting still, but not on nearly the scale. Plus far fewer stormfaggots.

>>759717

10/10 I laughed.

>>759717

/b/ was already a joke by the time /pol/ was created.

>>759722

The problem is that each politics board built up that audience - /n/ was a mix of genuine stormfronters and general internet users of the time, /new/ began the sort of alt-right shitposting methodology that when it was deleted filled the entirety of 4chan and then /pol/ has just taken off since they have a place to build up more bullshit.

>>759717

/pol/ fails at being old /b/ because they believe their own bullshit and take themselves seriously

>>759728

This

>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.

Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

Only autists took it seriously

>>759697

When it comes to GSG, obviously Paradox is going to be your go-to supplier.

EU4 is probably the most beginner friendly. It runs from 1444-1812, so you'll get the whole Age of Exploration to dick around in and be an imperialist dickbag. The game is $10 on Steam right now due to sales, or alternatively, just pirate it.

At the very least, pirate the DLC. It's overpriced as fuck, and only takes putting the DLC files into the right folder and running an authenticator to pirate. The world tends to proceed in a "believable" manner: not 100% historically accurate, but plausible.

CK2 isn't really GSG in the traditional sense: it's more strategy game mixed with RPG. You (usually) play as some feudal lord, and have to manage your dynasty while landed titles are constantly being passed around you and fought for. Runs from 769-1453, with the last major scripted world event being Timur the Lame's conquests. It's also pretty good for beginners, though it has the propensity to become WILDLY ahistorical, which I know can be a turnoff for a lot of people.

Vic2, unlike the previous 2 games mentioned, tends to be more simulation-like in how it operates (as in the world will proceed in a mostly historical manner unless the player intervenes). It's definitely not beginners choice, and is among the more complex of the GSG games. A lot of the gameplay is about industrialization and managing the economy, as well as the scramble for Africa and (with the DLC) WWI in the late game. Its usually considered to be the best of the Paradox games (and its the first game in the historical timeline that you get to play as commies/socialists).

I know >>759705 mentioned Stellaris, but it may be worthwhile to wait a bit before really diving into it. It's fun, but comparably bare-bones when stacked up to the other games.

>>759729

>made him cute and turned him into his current incarnation gondola

I may be a filthy newfag by your standards, but gondola is fucking based.

>>759741

Thanks that sounds really good

>>759336

>Also important to note I didn't get banned until later today, almost a full 24 hours

You got bannned!? Injustice!

Your comments on both of the threads were consistently insiteful.

>>759758

Thanks, it really wasn't particularly intellectually driven or concerted, just my basic opinions concerning idpol and the origins of exploitation.

>>759617

WOW it's been a long time since I've see THAT image

>>759618 | >>759629

Close enough. /r9k/ first appeared in 2008 but it wasn't in full-swing for a while yet

>>759162

>/leftypol/, I want to offer a sincere apology.

After being on reddit you better lmfao

>>759691

I just want to post and talk about my shitty playthroughs and create alt history mods

How autistic is liking alt history

>>759937

I really love stuff like Kaiserreich and Napoleon's Legacy. Just all the different politics and history.

Perhaps because it's generally more exciting than neoliberal hegemony, which is just a boring hell?

>>759162

My experience with all the "socialist" subreddits has been

>refusal to accept that you're just against idpol, you must be secretly in favor of the opposing brand of idpol

>thinks "liberal" means "socialists that have opinions I disagree with". They haven't the slightest clue what the ideological divide between liberalism and socialism actually is. I've been called a "liberal" for posting purely materialist opinions, all while they claim that their idealist and bourgeois individualist ideas are somehow "proper socialism"

>most of them have very little background in socialist literature, especially Marx, and it's pretty obvious they got their information from a secondary or tertiary New Left source.

>they all seem to revel in the idea of engaging in extreme violence, with lots of jokes and references to firing lines and gulags. I was told multiple times that they would like to put me up against a wall. Yet, they can't handle even slight disagreement or off-color language. One wonders if they think that the revolution will just be an orgy of divine violence where they get to brutally murder everyone they don't like and have never figured that it also involves people shooting at you

I have never actually used any of these subreddits but i heard that at least r/socialsim used to be better but that pretty much all of the vaugely left leaning subs has been couped by the same team of mods. I have no idea how true this actually is though.

>>759888

>reddit: the flag

>>760020

>>refusal to accept that you're just against idpol, you must be secretly in favor of the opposing brand of idpol

And even if they admitted you weren't idpol, they would qualify you as colorblind wich is just as badwrong.

>>759372

"This sub is a fucking pit of brocialism…"

I can see why they think /leftypol/ is a pit of nazi fascists and nazional anarchists if they have to actually debate whether /r/socialism is brocialist or not. It's like watching an ancarp calling a conservative a socialist.

Heads up; more counter-revolutionary whining here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/4qgzj4/rsocialism_defends_leftypol/

just saying in case you're unaware, r LateStageCapitalism is the cat's tats

polite sage

Just remember to use a throwaway account if you want to say that identity politics are a just another manifestation of neoliberal capitalism…

>>760020

>One wonders if they think that the revolution will just be an orgy of divine violence where they get to brutally murder everyone they don't like and have never figured that it also involves people shooting at you

I wouldn't be surprised. I've noticed a millennial/apocalyptic sort of belief among them. It's like leftism/socialism, at least for them, has become something of a version of early Christianity: a doomsday cult where they believe if they keep themselves free of the sins of liberalism, some day the divine apocalypse of the revolution purge the earth of their enemies.

>>759162

>Also, I got banned.

That's kind of a good sign imo

>>759198

Jesus. Full, unironic McCarthyism

>ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY?

>>759323

>/leftypol/

>brigading anything

There's maybe–maybe–three hundred posters here that are actually socialists and only a fraction of them actually give a shit about /r/socialism or /leftypol/'s honor enough to go and downvote shit idiot redditors say

>>759362

grats dawg

>using reddit

You got what you deserved.

>>761397

/r/LateStageCapitalism is also an idpol-ridden shithole. I was banned after posting a perfectly on-topic (and upvoted) link, presumably because I had also posted on /r/CringeAnarchy

>>759697

>God, a time before wojack and pepe

Yeah, I miss when "memes" were actually cultural in jokes rather than just TEXT ON IMAGE LOL ISSA MAYMAY XD

>>763202

I was banned for for saying "fuck off" to someone who took offense to me calling Thatcher a twat.

I want my old /jp/ back ;_;

>>763232

I have no regrets about the split, at least part of old /a/ managed to survive a bit longer.

>>763202

>>763215

It's obviously an idpol shithole. I have a particularly insane redditor I use as an idpol detector. If she posts there without having a tantrum, the idpol cancer is terminal. Here:

https://www.reddit.com/user/-Enkara-/

P.S. She loves being hugged.

>>763253

>Your symptoms are similar to mine,… emotional dysregulation is my thing, but my close relationships are pretty stable and I hide a lot of the suicidal/self harm stuff to try and protect them, I do a bit of the black and white thinking and get really paranoid that loved ones are fucking with me in really unrealistic ways sometimes, but not so much really, and that's really just a result of the way emotional dysregulation warps my perception of reality I think… Anyway I'm not formally diagnosed with BPD… I asked not to be pathologized and I donno whether I meet the full criteria or not (probably not), but I am seeing a therapist that does DBT anyway, and it's been really beneficial for me.

>I guess long story short, is that you don't even need to be diagnosed with 5 of the 9 symptoms of BPD to benefit from therapy, DBT in particular is really good for learning ways to manage the mood swings.

lol