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[–]Maximumboneage 45ポイント46ポイント47ポイント 5時間前 (20子コメント)
"The only good parts of this game are graphics and pvp"
" and pvp "
LOL
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 -6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 2時間前 (19子コメント)
What's so funny about that? Imo DS3 has the best PvP in Souls series. Of course no one has to think that way but the given reaction makes it feel like the game has all the broken game mechanics, glitches and stupidly OP builds that other Souls game had, which don't exist in DS3. Even without considering the time the game's been out and that it doesn't have dlcs yet, it is still the best balanced one (except invasions). It could use some weapon and spell variety (that we will hopefully see in dlcs) but the DS3 hate in this sub is getting ridiculous.
[–]NightWalpurgis [スコア非表示] 20分前 (3子コメント)
I'm not sure why you're getting downvotes; it's your opinion after all. I guess it's because your thoughts on the PvP don't follow the consensus of this subreddit.
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 [スコア非表示] 13分前 (2子コメント)
I have no idea. There are quite a lot people in this sub who think DS2 is the best Souls game (probably the same ones who hated it when it was first released) and I respect them even though it is BY FAR the worst imo but people get really mad when their circlejerk is broken. Maybe it's b/c the game is new and people are still passionate about it, which is a great thing in the end so it's okay I suppose. I mean don't care about imaginary internet points but there are no real arguments they offer. How do you respond to "lol okay"?
[–]NightWalpurgis [スコア非表示] 10分前 (1子コメント)
I can't say much about the PvP across the series since Dark Souls 3 is the first time I engaged in it. But if that weren't the case, I'd still not care if someone's opinions differed from mine. You like Dark Souls more than Bloodborne (my favorite so far)? Well, that's good I guess.
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 [スコア非表示] 6分前 (0子コメント)
Exactly. Why would a different a different opinion make your experience less enjoyable? People get carried away I suppose.
[+]Shadow_XG スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 2時間前 (14子コメント)
Lol okay.
[+]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 2時間前 (13子コメント)
Great argument. Here's an equivalent response: You're probably mad b/c you can't run through an UGS to chain backstab people with a Chaos Rapier with a ninja flipping Havelmom anymore.
[–]Warath 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
But its easier to backstab and defeat UGS users in this game. They cost more stamina, have slower animations, and have slower recovery than any of the previous games.
[–]AndresGleamingChest [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (0子コメント)
It's easier than the poise, insta backstabs of DS1?
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I agree that they are harder to use against experienced players and that their stamina consumptions and animations need to be re-adjusted but it is definitely not easier to backstab them in this game. They'll mostly whiff and if you play unlocked, you can destroy backstab fishers. Just watch PraiseTheSun's UGS or heavy weapon videos. As long as you can time your attacks and be patient, they obliterate most people. The way instant backstabs work in DS1 makes it beyond frustrating to deal with bs fishers. I mean I still play the game, in fact I just played yesterday. I have almost 750 hours invested in it and it's the best gaming experience I've ever had but it's broken to the core. UGS users have no chance against DWGR+katana users or Havelmoms. I don't want to comment on DS2 as I don't like playing that game b/c of floaty movement and animations but it dealt with backstabs much better, although not as good as DS3. The game's constantly getting patches and I think post-dlcs would be the best time to judge game's balance. Current criticism is of course needed, otherwise we wouldn't have got those patches but all I'm saying is people are being way too harsh with no justified reason. No one wants to remember mundane daggers, hex builds and all the broken shit DS2 had at launch and it's not fair.
[–]MaskOfInfamyNew Londo was an inside job [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (5子コメント)
The Havelmom and Chaos Rapier of this game is the Dark Sword, Estoc, and Carthus Curved Sword users.
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (4子コメント)
Oh come on. Dark Sword was just too powerful for a straight sword and it has just been nerfed. Same for Estoc. It was too fast and powerful but you could still parry the shit out of spammers and now it's been nerfed as well. Carthus is still troublesome but it'll get its taste of nerf soon I believe. I realize that these weapons caused balance issues when the game was first released and people didn't know how to deal with them but it is certainly not an issue anymore. Like I said, there'll be a ton of balancing but comparing those weapons to the ninja flipping bs fishers just isn't fair. I think people are forgetting what it was like. Just have a visit to Oolacile. The shit is still rampant here.
[–]Mohl97The Tumbleweed: http://imgur.com/a/YEWZM [スコア非表示] 54分前 (1子コメント)
Estoc is still original speed in the left hand, I believe.
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 [スコア非表示] 40分前 (0子コメント)
True but no one uses it anymore. At least I haven't seen it. I don't know how much of a difference it makes in left hand as I've never used that weapon myself but it must be big I suppose. It's probably b/c stamina consumption was reduced as well but I'm not sure. As far as I'm concerned, the weapon wasn't a nightmare before and it certainly isn't now.
[–]venicellovolvo pls add santiers [スコア非表示] 13分前 (1子コメント)
Dark Sword has been nerfed
By 20-30 damage. Still incredibly efficient.
Same for Estoc
Nerf doesn't apply if it's in your left hand. And yes, people use it.
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 [スコア非表示] 11分前 (0子コメント)
As I said, I don't think they were too difficult to handle to begin with and now they've been nerfed, which is good enough for me. I understand people think differently but they are nowhere near broken and not stupidly OP in my humble opinion.
Edit: Also, stamina consumption of Dark Sword was nerfed as well afair and 20-30 less damage per hit is no joke.
[–]Mohl97The Tumbleweed: http://imgur.com/a/YEWZM [スコア非表示] 55分前 (3子コメント)
Actually, we're mad because the game is so comically unbalanced that for the longest time, three weapons were so good that the general strategy to beat them was "outrange them" because if you got even remotely close, you'd get decimated.
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 [スコア非表示] 43分前 (2子コメント)
Can we please have an argument without exaggerating the issues? You know what's so comically unbalanced? Being summoned into world where the host is casting Tranquil Walk of Peace and he spams Wrath of the Gods while his summon spams Dark Bead. Now that, was comically unbalanced. The case with ds3 was that you had to be noticeably better than your opponent if they were using unbalanced weapons. It certainly isn't fun or balanced but it's not gamebreaking and the adjustments have been/are still being made.
As for outranging, at least you can parry people even if only the tip of their weapon reaches you. In DS1, you had to be standing face to face to parry a guy spamming his spear behind a shield (which had huge stability even with small shields). Besides, people who use cheap tactics are usually not the brightest and now they can be punished with baiting, parrying, etc. Cheap/broken exploits guaranteed wins before, now they don't. It's still hard but not frustrating, that's what I'm saying. I escpecially think that Dark Sword and Estoc weren't that big of a deal. People destroy them all the time and now they're not even that viable anymore. The latest patch is being celebrated like the second coming of Christ. We should give them a chance to see what they'll do in upcoming ones.
[–]Mohl97The Tumbleweed: http://imgur.com/a/YEWZM [スコア非表示] 8分前 (1子コメント)
Dark Souls 1 had the absolute worst PVP. I'm not denying that.
I'm talking about DS2 PVP, primarily.
[–]Days_IgnoredChip chip dingaroo m8 [スコア非表示] 3分前 (0子コメント)
DS2 had some of the best ideas and implementations about PvP and I love that but the thing that ruined the game for me was the floatiness. I constantly felt like I was sliding. I'd heard people complain about it before I played it and I thought they were just bitching and not adopting to the new game. I was extremely hyped about the game but that one thing ruined it for me and I just couldn't get used to it. I mostly agree how well DS2 handled most things but I couldn't enjoy it. Maybe if it's remade with DS3 engine.
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