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[–]Chamale 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd say it's certainly possible to change that mindset for an individual, and changing it for a society means changing the way that the media tends to depict men as characters and women as goals for those characters.

[–]thatoneguy54 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's totally possible to change the mindset, I believe. The problem with objectification comes when you think of a woman as an object instead of a person. It's 100% totally okay to have your first thought about a woman be, "Wow, she's pretty". What's not okay is to then base all of your interactions with her around the idea that that is all she has to offer.

I think getting to know lots and lots of women in non-intimate ways is the best path to avoiding objectification. If you personally know tons of examples of women who are more than just their body (all of them), it'll be easier to avoid thinking and acting on negative stereotypes about them.

Overall though, thoughts are difficult to control. It's more your actions that you truly need to be worried about.

[–]Ciceros_Assassin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think people of all genders often have a visceral/visual first impression of other people, but I don't think that objectification of others is necessarily biological, more just a thing we're socialized to. Like others have mentioned here, something that would probably help immensely would be media depictions of certain people as having more value than just their looks.

[–]nomhtar 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

  1. Can you link the studies please so we can read them and understand exactly where you're getting your information from.

  2. Appreciation of beauty isn't a bad thing, a woman, car, tree, landscape, meal or whatever you find beautiful it's fine to appreciate that, if your thought is "what an awesome set of tits, I want to cover them with my man gravy" then your sexualising someone, if you keep that in your internal world ie to yourself the that's not bad either but if you base a getting to know the woman with your goal being to baist their breasts in your love juices then your degrading and treat her as sex object and that's not cool. It's not all black and white, in sexual relationship obviously you're going to be treating a person as a sex object and you'll be treated as one to and that's okay in consenting sexual relationships.

[–]illuminated_sputnik[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]nomhtar [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The first article is about how people can identify woman quickly and the same why they identify objects, it doesn't mean they think women are objects, it actually means that women are identified faster in any situation as opposed to men that aren't.

Huffington post article, all wind no substance, like a I said Huffington Post.

The second looks interesting but the link to the study is dead so I can't make an informed decision on it.

[–]ThaMalc [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

if you base a getting to know the woman with your goal being to baist their breasts in your love juices then your degrading and treat her as sex object and that's not cool.

Can you state objectively why that is ‘not cool’?

Why is a heterosexual/homosexual desire to have sex with attractive women, and solely for the reaosn of having sexual intercourse ‘not cool’?

[–]nomhtar [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Because you're not viewing them as a person, just an object for your personal gratification in an act they may not even be comfortable with, not cool, but it's not all black and white, the person may want to engage and use you as an object to merely the same way you want to use them as an object, that is very cool if mutual and you're both having your desires fulfilled.

[–]ThaMalc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

first thought is something like "damn, she's pretty", which is not the same thing I think when I approach any other person.

Yes, because she is an object of your sexual desire. This is a perfectly natural and appropriate physical/psychological respinse to seeing someone your find sexual attractive.

Finding someone sexually attractive and seeing them as a human being as well are in no way mutually exclusive.