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[–]-R-TRAIN-NYR - NHL -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

So you would prefer to assume racism even though it just looks like any other bad trade? Once again I'll go back to the Hall trade for reference. If it was a black GM would it be racist? If Hall was black would it magically turn racist? If Larsson was black would the Decils be racists?

[–]50in15MIN - NHL 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

The fact that it is a bad trade (and it is) is really the culmination in a number of things that suggested Montréal did not appreciate the athlete, gentleman, and superstar that they had in P.K. Subban. You could certainly trace a line back through this season and find the moments where Therrien was given a pass and Subban was shouldered with blame. To pretend that racism in hockey isn't still a problem is to be willfully blind to the lingering prejudices that many still harbor. I agree with you that these threads are getting too argumentative though, and I can see that I won't change your mind, so I'm not going to devote any more time to bickering.

I've got no disrespect for you or your positions. I certainly hope that racism didn't play a factor in his ousting. But where I differ from you is that I see no problem with questions on that front. Have a good one.

[–]-R-TRAIN-NYR - NHL -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Honestly I don't even think it's worth speculating over. Let's say MB is racist, who does this affect? He's sending PK to a place where he will earn more money in less taxes and have more lenient media treatment. If MB was honestly racist he probably would of done something really shitty instead of making him one of the highest payEd defenseman in the league and then sending him to a good state in Tenessee. So even if he is racist, he is going to get his just desserts when Subban flourishes in Nashville. I think when we all sit around bickering it gives more power to ignorant racism than anything. But hey good day to you also I didn't come on hockey reddit to fight about racism

[–]YamoBDET - NHL 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

There isn't some line that you cross and then eligible for the title of racist. There are all kinds of subtle ways race can affect our decisions and behavior. It's worth thinking about and discussing, is all.

[–]casimirpulaskidayDAL - NHL -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

In this context? It's neither worth thinking about nor discussing.

[–]YamoBDET - NHL 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

What context, though? Hockey? Sports? Anything not blatantly tied to race?

[–]casimirpulaskidayDAL - NHL 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

the 'a black guy got traded in a sport so race must play a factor in it' context.

[–]YamoBDET - NHL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like that's missing a lot of the context that was addressed above