Certain Mods of /r/ACTrade and /r/AdoptMyVillager are acting unacceptable.

Smelly_Snail · 11時間前

I think that all of the main AC subs have some incredibly pretentious people in them.

kemistreekat · 2時間前

I've also had really bad interactions, so much so that I no longer participate in r/ACTrade.

I was offering up something for sale or trade, and I got a PM asking for the item. As this is explicitly in the rules as a no no, I told the person I wouldn't trade with them and felt obligated to report it to the mods.

I was berated by the mods to the point of tears, because I used the words "send me a message", really meaning to reply to this comment, as that is what is specifically stated in the rules where PMs are banned. The mod team called me stupid, and a myriad of other names and told me "not to report people when I'm the asshole."

I have never participated in that sub since. The mod team is no where near kind and understanding, they'll use anything against you as they can.

It's a shame too because I love this game with a passion, and trading on Reddit helps with a lot of things, but my own mental health and happiness is not worth the compromise of dealing with poor mods that will mentally abuse you to the point of leaving.

spelling88 · 8時間前

ur talking about unicormfarts right lol? i didn't like snoop your post history or anything i can just tell, that person was always so bitchy to me- I'm happy other ppl are realizing it, ac is supposed to be such a nice, relaxing game, sucks how it attracts such rude people

Greenhorn_Gentleman · 10時間前

Intriguing, I must say though the majority of those mods are indeed very nice, there is at least one I feel (most likely the same one) who is a bit too eager to assert their authority and who I believe is just a little too, um, entitled, I suppose. I've never had an actual bad encounter with them, but it's bits and pieces that have led me to often not feel very welcome, at times.

I understand it isn't an easy job and perhaps they're just doing what they think is best, but a modicum of thought wouldn't hurt. People make mistakes, it shouldn't have to take making them feel bad about it to get them to understand their mistakes.

Devonmartino · 12時間前

My first post on /r/ACTrade was when I had a lot of yellow pansies I was just going to chuck and was seeing if I could get anything for them. A mod (the same one you're having issues with) immediately replied "NOPE. No one wants those." That's a direct quote, mind you. When I said "No need to be rude," that mod acted like I had personally kicked his/her cat across the room and threatened me underhandedly.

I've attempted to extend the olive branch twice since then, but was rebuked for it both times. As for your case, I wouldn't take it personally. Once you know they're just trying to get a rise out of you, they can no longer drag you down with them into misery.

katysu · 11時間前

Interesting reading as I have had no major, if any contact with mods on reddit. Everyone is human and being a mod can be very time consuming, its not paid, and in general players tend to try and push the boundaries, so I suspect tempers can fray somewhat.

Having said that the mods you talk about seem to be very young/immature. Its a balance, maybe they need to take on board a few older players.

An aside - yellow pansies - well as a feng shui devotee, I do use yellow flowers. And I have seen a few posts where players are after any flowers just to fill up their town fast (maybe to help with grass wear). Tho the quickest way is to bring in flowers via tours from your island.

Best to ignore and move on. You will come across people like that in all areas of life. On the whole I find reddit one of the best sites for acnl & news about it.

Dartpaw86 · 7時間前

This is why I (usually) don't give a crap about playing online. Too much trouble. I can't understand people who act like online is the only possible way to enjoy the game.

KidShenanigansDPM · 1時間前

I know who you are talking about and you are right. I got in trouble because trade fell through for me getting flowers, so i decided i would just get my own, i ended up getting to much so i decided i would sell the extras and they blamed me for selling flowers i "got" from another person, eve though i never got them. I use to be banned, but i dont know anymore, it was on a different reddit account

hitherecutie · 6時間前

Tell me about it. A mod got all pissy that I expressed interest in a villager and said if anyone else wanted her before x time they could have her. Something about how it scares people away from wanting that villager... lolk, already said its okay if other people wanted it. Then I saw another thread around a month later someone else doing the same thing I did, and where is the mod to be seen? Nowhere. Guess the new mod wanted to flaunt her power, lool.

edit: Oh, she seems to have deleted her account? lool And yes she was still a mod when that thread I saw was happening!

Just remembered; I tried to PM a mod for help before as well when I was a no0b and they told me not to PM them. looool. Hooooo!! Can't remember who it was tho

chandler631 · 4時間前

I remember when i participated in an auction on ACTrade I made a new comment instead of commenting on the first bidder's comment, and a mod deleted me off the post and went to town yelling at me in a private message

AirIsFreedom · 3時間前

I'm very glad someone has brought this up. I understand that the job is probably time consuming and stressful, but sometimes the mods seem a little rude. The job also wouldn't be as time consuming and stressful if they didn't essentially have a monopoly over all the trading subreddits. I just do my best to follow all the rules to a strict tee and have the least amount of interaction with the mods as possible, but it sucks that I always feel worried in the trading subreddits.

Ness_64 · 1時間前

After I grabbed them I started to type a "thank you! Sorry about last time!" type of message but the mod ended the session before I even got to "thank y." I immediately knew that this would be a problem because not only did I not say hi, now I didn't say thanks. I, again, went to the thread that I started on the giveaway post and explain my situation but no avail. The mod them made a comment that stated that I am "One of the rudest traders ever."

What? Let me see if I'm missing something. You accepted to visit for a giveaway, you accepted to take some items like the host said, you didn't seem to break any rules or do anything harmful to their village, yet you're one of the rudest traders ever just because you didn't say "hi" and "thanks". And you're completely ignored when you try to explain anything, even when you aren't "wrong". Did I get this right?

This reminds me a little of those kids who instantly add you the moment you visit a friend's village, then get mad at you and call you names when you don't add them back because you don't even know them. I can't understand this logic at all.

Even if it's a moderator, you shouldn't let a single person ruin an entire community in your view. It's not like you're visiting that community just to play with that person, and you don't need to do anything with him/her if you don't want to.

Now getting banned is an entirely different matter, and you shouldn't quietly accept this if the ban is unjustified. Now it may be too late to do something about it, but if anything like this happens again, try taking a few pics from everything that happened (in-game or not) and show them explaining the situation to other mods. Maybe this will make them think twice before they break their own rules.

pm_me_ur_river_otter · 8時間前

i think it's well known who you're talking about and it's also unsurprising. there's nothing we can do about it unfortunately, if it's really an issue for you then think about taking it to the admins

FrostyMcNuggets · 13時間前

I double spaced but I guess that doesn't work so now it looks like a text wall, my bad.

MiniGoat_King · 3時間前

Whelp, I think it's about time we had a "An-exit" from this union of AC subs...sure, our Bells' worth will drop for a little while, but we will be free!

Unicormfarts · 1時間前

I love how your story is so pro your side, without any evidence of these multiple messages that have been cruelly ignored.

bingotown · 18分前

Also a late reply that might not be seen, but I think everyone could benefit from seeing the situation from the other person's perspective.

In your case: You should realize that the mods do a lot of work for the subreddits, much more than you might realize. They have been moderating the subs consistently for years, and they've had to deal with many different kinds of users, which is why I think they tend to be blunt and harsh.

You could be more fair to them by realizing they're people too. They might not be able to answer your question within 45 minutes. Remember that they have other responsibilities, and they have to help other users.

You are also calling them out and shaming them publicly, even if you don't give their names, so you can't claim that you're not trying to flame or harass them. No one should be surprised that some of the mods are reacting negatively to this post. How would you feel if someone publicly attacked you? I do think a private conversation would have been more polite, although I admit it might not have been effective, depending on the mods' response.

In the mods' case: The mods should realize that a lot of these users are new and not as familiar with the subreddits as they are. Yes, there are rules listed in the sidebar, but a lot of these users are young, not familiar with reddit in general, and/or using reddit on mobile, where the sidebar isn't as visible. I know it gets tiring trying to be polite to ignorant or rude users, but I would hope that the mods of a game like Animal Crossing would want to welcome users into the community as much as possible. And unfortunately, while hosting giveaways is great and generous, it's not a replacement for kindness.

I think maybe mods could better separate their work from the rest of their interaction with the subs. Keep things straightforward: respond to rule breaking with pre-written warnings explaining the situation/rules, apply temporary bans after a certain number of small infractions, and permanent bans after certain number of bigger infractions and warnings. User complaints should be handled with straightforward explanations.

I'm sure there's more to this story, and many other stories of frustration between users and mods. It's more useful to start a discussion between people than to place blame and vilify others.

devvydowner · 4時間前

You never confronted me about anything. I tried to talk to you multiple times, you deleted your own comments and threads, instead of replying to my warnings. I temp. banned you because you ignored multiple warnings, deleted and reposted threads to evade warnings and broke various other rules. I have screen shots, if you'd like to see them. I have better things to do with my time then follow users around doing damage control. Then, when I gave you that temp ban, you responded by making a copy of our sub and stealing my art to use as your own. Real cool.

Your views of what happened are wildly inaccurate and this only further proves that you are throwing a fit because you had to follow rules. Publicly flaming us is never going to get your problems resolved. Good luck with your sub, hypocrite.

Edit: Here's a screen shot of the comments you deleted and said that I removed. (For those who don't understand, if I removed them, it'd say that and the comments would be highlighted in red. When a user deletes their own comments, it simply says "deleted," and the other comments remain.) You can also see how incredibly rude and abusive I was with warning you.

Platyp · 59分前

I don't know if anyone will see this comment because it's so late, but:

It is important to note that downvotes are for useless content, not content that you don't like. Any mod replies are extremely useful content here and should have been upvoted.

caelumsixsmith · 3時間前

Note: I have messaged the mods to ask if this post if permitted but have not received an answer in 45 minutes so here it goes.

To be fair, modding a sub is not a job. I think every user should understand that and not expect immediate action from mods cuz they have their own lives to take care of.

Secondly, as much as I've had been through some lame things with a very specific moderation team, this just adds drama. As it is, we have to browse through your content and hope we find the things you're talking about :/ If you're accusing someone, even if you don't give their names, always present proof cuz if you don't, whatever you're doing has no real credit.

As I said, I've been there myself. And what's worse, shouting out about what happened somewhere else did nothing but make people hate me cuz even though the moderation team was shit, people were still behind them. It's nearly impossible to get "justice" on Reddit if we're targetting a small sub cuz no one will do anything and chances are that the community will stay behind the mods unless they treat everyone poorly, which not even half the communities pay attention to. So, an advice? Just keep it to yourself and move on. Yes, it hurts and yes, people have the right to know. But as I said, without proof this has no real credit :/ Inciting drama doesn't help the situation, it only makes all sides look bad.

ChipWalker · 7時間前

As an ex mod who pretty much ran AMV for an extended period of time with no help, let me tell you it gets incredibly difficult to try and wrangle users into following the rules.

There are a lot of behind the scenes stuff that seriously jades you. Users frequently complaining in modmail about how unfair it is they had to be checked for their own rule breaking, people not reading the rules properly or even at all.

You dont see it all because most of it is automod removed or over modmail and so on the surface it does come across rude but honestly we have to deal with some absolutely horrific users. You should see my screengrabs or take a look through r/acbanhammer for a laugh.

You should try to look at the bigger picture. I know because i was behind the scenes for a long time and people used to call me a jerk for dealing with rule breaking but let me tell you, those subreddits would be 100x worse off without competent mods. Its a thankless job.

MonkeyManDan · 1時間前

Unicornfarts called me an actual monkey once :(

KerryAnnCrossing · 2時間前

I find your complaint to have no merit. You have, whether you agree with it or not, exhibited poor trading behavior by not showing up to the first giveaway. What you don't understand is that these mods (which there are few of, so your concern of them being "harassed" or "flamed" falls on deaf ears) are taking the time and going out of the way to give away FREE things. Clearly the one mod had a reason to not trust you, even if the Internet cut out. As far as your embarrassment of this happening, again, you clearly did not express that in the second giveaway you participated in. It's not hard to enjoy this community and you've had a difficult time for your behavior and lack of showing ownership. You come into this sub, which to this post is irrelevant, and express that you have been wronged. I personally have never had a problem with the mods and there have been a few times where I exhibited poor behavior. Giveaways are hard to run, one of the first trades I did was a disaster, and I expressed my apologies fairly and gave everyone what was agreed upon. Another time I showed up to a giveaway with no inventory space and I was entirely apologetic and took ownership. Also, I have never had a problem with the mod on ACTrade in question. I also never felt rushed or was unable to say thank you before the sessions ended. These users are giving away free stuff and you fail to see the bigger picture. Wasting people's time is not cool, period. Whether those people look past that is entirely up to them, and this mod chose to not trade with you again. There is a reason behind that and I don't see how that is abusing power. I see that many people on here agree with you and it's sad to see people rally behind someone complaining that their experience getting free stuff in a game resulted in such nonsense. To conclude I will reference your note at the beginning of this post. You don't know if you're breaking the rules but because no one replied to you, you do it anyway. There was a user about a week ago here posting about their ban on acturnips and has since been removed. I find no difference in these two situations. Perhaps your attitude towards subreddit rules is why people don't take kindly to you on AC trading subs anyway

Smiles4you · 2時間前

Every summer we get threats, and complaints from the kids that are on summer break that start playing ACNL again. Kids that want to overthrow the moderators and think that raising pitchforks and torches will make reddit removed us. They have no idea the work we put in behind the scenes. We definitely have not monopolized ACNL trading (contrary to what users may believe), there are TONS of options out there. If our subs do not meet your standards feel free to join TheBellTree or Tumblr trades or even Facebook groups. But think about why the ACNL Trade subs are still active and getting new subscribers every day and why we are still getting over a dozen new RMM pages every week.

Our subreddit works well for users that understand our rules and want a pleasant trading experience. They don't want to wait 2 hours for "just pixel" villagers, they don't want someone coming over and destroying a town they worked hard on.

And if we are rude to you, that probably means that we've been monitoring and discussing your shitty trading behavior and we've had just about enough of your shenanigans.

Unicormfarts · 1時間前

If any other of you guys want to be hypocrites and come get free stuff while trashing me in this thread, I have a giveaway going on right now: https://redd.it/4q4jmu

kevinftw17 · 27分前

Now everyone go hate on me :)

Silowet · 3時間前

Let's face it. There's only a handful of mods on both subs (even here!) and even less are actively moderating; it doesn't take two firing neurones to figure out who you're talking about. That being said this post has gained some traction so clearly your experiences have some merit.

Let's say that your passionately worded anecdotes and fervent support of others causes those select mods to step down. What happens then? Are you or any other disgruntled user willing to take up the mantle? Keep in mind that you have to be the professional you wanted them to be for a few years at the very least, constantly checking modmail daily and all year round for rule breakers and delivering justice in a swift but well-researched and non-biased manner; otherwise you'll either become inactive like most of the mods there, thereby letting the whole subreddit fall into disarray, or you become exactly like the person you're complaining about right now.

However this post was just to draw attention; you and others don't actually want to moderate because that would require work. Maybe that's why this sort of outrageous behaviour still happens then huh, because everyone here enjoys spewing diatribes about moderator cruelty (!) in order to rally up the people, but when presented with an opportunity to act first-hand, I'm sure that most if not all of us would not be willing to take up their role. And hence nothing happens: all these venting posts fade into obscurity, you and all the others who've been slighted move on (or hold unreasonable grudges, whatever rocks your boat), and the mods continue their reign of perceived tyranny because of inaction.

I'm not going to participate in some subreddit revolution where us lowly users overthrow the megalomaniac mods, but I'm also not going to claim that the mods are actually doing stellar work; that's not the real problem. AC:NL has been out for a long time now (almost 4 years!), and clearly the hype has died down til only the most dedicated or late users have remained. There isn't enough hype or numbers for the mods to stay the way they were since release, and so naturally things start to fade. That level of professionalism you desire isn't worth keeping up anymore, compared to say post-release when any flagrant abuse of mod power would be seen by the majority of users, who were active back then.

So what should we do then? We wait until a new Animal Crossing game comes out and the community springs back to life. Then with some fresh new faces and renewed vigour we might see either new dedicated moderators or the old moderators might see fit to put on a new air of professionalism. For now though this post is nothing more than shouting into the wind.

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