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[–]Nordic Empirekakatoru 85ポイント86ポイント  (37子コメント)

What is a scrub nurse?

[–]MrFredFreddington 525ポイント526ポイント  (20子コメント)

She gets rekt by pro nurses

[–]Slightly_Stoopid_ 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

You made me sound like I we clearing my throat as I sat up straighter in my chair at work while watching a movie and browsing reddit because I don't work so hard

[–]cheezewazzers 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

You made me giggle while I pooped

[–]European Union HungaryCaraotero 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

You made me have a big laugh in the Metro, now people is giving me strange looks 😆

[–]The NetherlandsPrussicus 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I always get this when redditing in the bus or when I'm with my family haha

[–]part-time_memer 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

You made me spill my coffee. :(

[–]Canary IslandsYngvi_Freyr 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are nurses able to work at operation rooms. They need extra training to do that.

[–]United Kingdomnedgus 30ポイント31ポイント  (7子コメント)

When the surgeons are 'scrubbed in' and sterile for carrying out an operation, there is also a nurse who 'scrubs in' and is sterile and they help with the smooth running of the surgery by handing over equipment, making sure things don't get left inside the patient etc. :)

[–]grappamiel 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

A nickname for Spaniards, apparently

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    [–]Romanian Rare Mineral Enthusiast/YUROP-27titsnoass 178ポイント179ポイント  (6子コメント)

    He knows fully well what he's doing.

    [–]France (living in Hungary)TarMil 104ポイント105ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He looks a bit like the TF2 Medic.

    "Anyvay... Zat's how I lost my medical license."

    [–]one-hour-photo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    "Mr . medic... To be fair.. I understand that brexit had a slight effect on your ability to practice medicine, but don't you think it's entirely more likely that you lost your license because of all the people you senselessly killed?"

    [–]Polish bloodcubesnack[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I haven't noticed that! Amazing!

    [–]sirlantis 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Browsing his phone, pointing at things... since a friend moved from Seattle to Germany, he enjoys using that underused finger all the time - Germans just don't care.

    [–]EthosBlab [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Oh... Hmm well I thought he was pointing out the fact that the German guys job is administering gas, I'm ashamed

    [–]Japanpaburon 173ポイント174ポイント  (91子コメント)

    Does anyone honestly think that a post-Brexit UK would block doctors and other highly educated medical professionals from immigrating to Britain? Or block people who are well-educated enough to pass entry requirements for medical school?

    Here in Japan, there are a few far-right groups that spout racism against immigrants, but even they have almost no problem with highly-educated immigrants from rich countries.

    [–]Cataloniagawyntrak 108ポイント109ポイント  (19子コメント)

    It's not about blocking, it's about becoming less attractive for highly educated medical professionals. UK is not the only "rich" country in Europe that wants to get "highly-educated immigrants from rich countries". It may be the only one in which these people will need to apply for a visa, and will have less rights than a local.

    [–]FlandersJustCallMeBen 12ポイント13ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Germany wants doctors.

    [–]newsfromanotherstar [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    Are you talking about this picture? It's definitely demonstrating the fact that the NHS relies upon European migrant workers, not about it becoming less attractive to them.

    The UK will remain very attractive for two reasons; we want foreign doctors. We speak English.

    Most people who voted to leave (I did not before you get angry), are sick of the poor migrants in whom they see a threat. Doctors and nurses, and skilled professionals are highly desired.

    Similarly, applying for a visa for other countries is not a difficult process, there's no reason to assume it will be for the UK, and would entitle them to the same rights as they currently have (i.e., not able to vote, but will have to pay taxes to the UK). There's no point in spreading disinformation just for the sake of it.

    [–]European Unionxorgol [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    applying for a visa for other countries is not a difficult process

    Having to apply for a visa makes it less attractive.

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      [–]Portugalfengilitious [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      I'm not a doctor, but I'm in one of those highly-skilled, highly-educated, in high-demand professions.

      I'm considering moving. I got here 3 weeks ago. I would have moved already if not for a 3 month lease on my house.

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        [–]Poland Cmillz 34ポイント35ポイント  (12子コメント)

        This. The whole discussion is so infantile and emotionally-charged there are rarely any sensible arguments. The trade will stop - right, because both EU and UK desperately want to lose billions just to spite each other. The professional immigration will stop - right, because UK will surely stop importing highly educated people, just like USA, with it's draconic immigration policy, doesn't. The country will lose international signficance - right, because suddenly the fifth biggest economy in the world will suddenly collapse, along with their top-notch military, diplomatic involvement and especially the Commonwealth of Nations. People need to start to think sensibly, with cool head, and drop the primary school-grade arguments.

        [–]EnglandDaveChild 35ポイント36ポイント  (4子コメント)

        The trade will stop - right, because both EU and UK desperately want to lose billions just to spite each other.

        Nobody suggested trade would stop, only that it would be harmed. If we have trade tariffs added, it will be. If we can't have banker passporting, it will be. Those are things that have not been agreed and there is no guarantee they will be.

        The professional immigration will stop - right, because UK will surely stop importing highly educated people, just like USA, with it's draconic immigration policy, doesn't.

        Stop? No. Reduce? Probably. Who would want to move here after 17 million people voted to reduce immigration, and were followed by a spate of racist and xenophobic attacks? Who would move here when there is now huge uncertainty about the future of the economy? That doesn't scream "lovely place to live".

        suddenly the fifth biggest economy in the world will suddenly collapse

        Sixth biggest, because it started collapsing on Friday. Hopefully it goes back up again. But once again, that's not happened yet and there's no guarantee it will. There's no guarantee it won't continue to get worse before it starts to get better either.

        People need to start to think sensibly, with cool head, and drop the primary school-grade arguments.

        If only that had been the case a week ago.

        In truth I agree with your sentiment to some extent - there's not much to gain in pointing out to Leave voters what their vote has done, and it's probably better use of time to concentrate on trying to un-fuck things. Odds are they are aware of these problems already, even if they are trying to avoid any responsibility for them. But at the same time, Remain voters aren't exactly happy to just ignore the problems going on, or that the high odds these would happen were spelled out before the vote.

        [–]iamsii [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

        Stop? No. Reduce? Probably. Who would want to move here after 17 million people voted to reduce immigration, and were followed by a spate of racist and xenophobic attacks? Who would move here when there is now huge uncertainty about the future of the economy? That doesn't scream "lovely place to live".

        100% agree. As someone who worked in Switzerland (non EU), Germany and France. I am less willing to move to the UK after the brexit. The most important factor is the uncertainty about the future of the economy. As a foreigner your job = your visa. If you lose it in an EU country you have a safety net in most of the countries. You can still live there with your friends and family. In a non EU country you have to leave after losing your job.

        If I would find the exact same Job (Salary and Position) in the EU or UK - I would def. pick the EU.

        [–]slug-for-arms [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

        Sixth biggest

        No, fifth.

        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/eu-referendum-result-has-the-french-economy-really-overtaken-the-uk-in-size-since-last-night-a7101361.html

        Apparently everyone and their fucking nana got the memo about the overtaking, but not the one that came shortly after debunking it as bollocks.

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          [–]Germanydefrgthzjukiloaqsw 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

          The trade will stop - right, because both EU and UK desperately want to lose billions just to spite each other.

          Nobody ever said that. That's actually not a problem at all. But the UK will have to pay tariffs of course.

          The professional immigration will stop - right, because UK will surely stop importing highly educated people, just like USA,

          There will obviously be less people willing to emigrate to the UK.

          just like USA, with it's draconic immigration policy, doesn't.

          Most people applying for H1-Bs are indians, are they not? And there's only about 100k new ones each year.

          [–]SAWHORSEFISHTAPE 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          People will still come to the UK they will just have a disincentive to choose the UK over other countries. Also the US is much more competitive than the UK. Our wages are higher for professionals and our cost of living is on average, much lower. I imagine there are plenty of EU professionals that speak English that will try the US over UK now that UK is not advantageous.

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            [–]OrtakVeljaVelja 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Stop thinking binary, it would just give less incentive to move to UK and more incentive to move to lets say Germany or France.

            [–]Greecefrequenttimetraveler 15ポイント16ポイント  (23子コメント)

            No , but it would become less attractive option for EU nationals, as you would need a work visa or equivalent, there would be different taxation schemes , import duties etc.

            [–]Japanpaburon 33ポイント34ポイント  (22子コメント)

            I am just not convinced that requiring EU immigrants to fill out a work visa application would be enough to make them avoid going to the UK.

            Moving to a foreign country involves a lot of things that are more difficult than applying for a visa - such as finding housing, learning the local language, filling out job applications & doing job interviews, and adapting to the local culture.

            Because English is a language that many people throughout Europe learn, it seems like it would make the UK an easier country to move to than say, a non-English speaking country that would require another language for work.

            different taxation schemes

            I'm not familiar with how things work in the UK and the EU, but aren't taxes automatically taken out of one's salary?

            import duties etc

            I am not sure what import duties have to do with people immigrating to another country. Does the UK want to charge a special tax on each new worker?

            [–]SunkFoalBrother 27ポイント28ポイント  (9子コメント)

            I am just not convinced that requiring EU immigrants to fill out a work visa application would be enough to make them avoid going to the UK.

            No. But what happens if you lose your job? Will you risk losing your visa (and that of your spouse and kids) as well? Will you get unemployment benefits just like other workers?

            Also, work permits are often a headache for the employer too, making the process of hiring a non-citizen (without EU-style free movement) a lot more tedious.

            So yes of course, a work visa process is definitely making a country much less attractive compared to one where you can just move and work without any additional paperwork.

            [–]Japanpaburon -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

            But what happens if you lose your job? Will you risk losing your visa (and that of your spouse and kids) as well? Will you get unemployment benefits just like other workers?

            It would depend, I suppose, on their visa. If they were a long-term resident, they would probably get some form of permanent residency.

            I am on a limited-term work visa, but if I lost my job, I would qualify for unemployment benefits because of taxes and fees taken out of my paycheck every month. Because work visas are multi-year visas, I would have some time to search for a job before I had to leave.

            I never really considered going to another country to work, because I had visited Japan before and liked it, and wanted to live here, even if it meant having to get a work visa. I don't make life decisions based on the idea that one place is easier to go to than another.

            That's also how things work in America, I think. But lots of people from all over the world, including the EU, want to go live and work in the United States. I've got a general sense that the UK, like the US, has a certain appeal to Europeans, beyond the mere fact that it is easy to enter the country.

            [–]Lithuaniaiisno1uno 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I still don't get what you argue. Are you saying the UK won't become less attractive to move to, live, work, create families and careers because even though the immigration process will be stricter?

            [–]SunkFoalBrother 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I've got a general sense that the UK, like the US, has a certain appeal to Europeans, beyond the mere fact that it is easy to enter the country.

            Sure, but as you say - it's not the only attractive location in the world.

            As we speak, I have a job offer on my desk. It's a London-based firm. Given my education, work experience, and the industry I'm in, I have zero worries about passing the requirements for any work visa process in the future, no matter how strict. But I also have a family and nobody has a fucking clue what the process will look like or any other regulations to come with it, so why should I take that risk on top of the usual risks of changing jobs and locations? And here I'm not even considering the risk of the pound remaining low, which has an effect on my income as measured in EUR, which is still my reference currency as long as I haven't decided to settle in the UK for a long time. Which isn't necessarily that attractive, given the high cost of living in and around London.

            This is not the only option I have, so I'll politely decline. Without Brexit, the scales might have gone in the other direction. Some others will feel the same. Easy as that.

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              [–]SAWHORSEFISHTAPE 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

              The language thing is probably going to benefit Ireland a lot. They are already known as more business-friendly, they speak English and are in the EU.

              [–]MAssDAmpER 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

              With all due respect to Dublin, it's no London & it never will be.

              [–]Job Stealing GuiriLupineChemist [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

              Yeah, but now that it's going to be the biggest English-speaking city in the EU, it will become a lot more attractive to business and will trigger a boom there for plenty of culture and other stuff that the executives that will have to live there also like.

              Well, Edinburgh could benefit as well from the same stuff.

              [–]IrelandSetTheJuiceLoose [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              I dunno man, the accents can get pretty rough around here.

              [–]Japanpaburon 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Perhaps as a location for businesses, but as an alternative market for medical professionals?

              Ireland only has a population of 4.5 million people. London alone is nearly doubled that.

              [–]IrelandSickBoy88 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

              I doubt many EU personnel will come here to work in our health system. The HSE is like the NHS' slow little brother, with more bureaucracy and worse hours for doctors. We haemorrhage medical grads to the UK and Australia.

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                [–]MasterOfBitcoin 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                The Brexiteers during the debate claimed to be in favour of an Australian points based system. Not one of these people would struggle to work in the UK at all.

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                  [–]The Netherlandsmaxpowerer 116ポイント117ポイント  (58子コメント)

                  No worries, Lord Protector Farage will fix that soon enough.

                  [–]TheGhostOfMRJames 1ポイント2ポイント  (39子コメント)

                  Judging by the average UKIP supporter, they'd be lucky to scrub a toilet, let lone become a scrub nurse.

                  [–]United KingdomPabloPeublo 49ポイント50ポイント  (36子コメント)

                  Why are pro EU folk so classist?

                  [–]AyBruhBruh 49ポイント50ポイント  (11子コメント)

                  It's a shame because it's that attitude that caused the working class to vote this way in the first place.

                  [–]United Kingdomkatilakoski [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                  Lets keep it real, the working class can be just as classist and snobbish as the middle class. And they don't just direct it toward the middle and upper echelons of society either. Some of the most snobby, hyper critical people I know when it comes to working class people are other working class people.

                  It's just an ingrained part of British culture tbh. A constant subconscious need to enforce the class divide that has existed in this country for generations. Keeping up appearances is a British comedy classic for a reason.

                  [–]AyBruhBruh [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                  I think there's a difference between kicking up and kicking down, as it were. A royal mocking the working class is simply not the same as the working class mocking a royal.

                  [–]TheRealCJ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  He's not talking about working class people punching up. He's talking about the crab bucket mentality that has working class people punching sideways. As in "I may be working class, but at least I'm better than other working class!"

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                    [–]jpty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    Plenty of educated people voted out. Some of those have seen in person how shitty the Brusleaucrats are.

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                      [–]ITworksGuys [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      You mean calling people fucking idiots over and over again doesn't make them agree with you?

                      I've noticed the pro-EU people here seem like liberals here in the states. If you don't agree with them, you must just be stupid.

                      [–]TheGhostOfMRJames 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      I wasn't referring the class. Don't suppose huge numbers of retired people in their 60 and 70's are going to be going to be signing up for menial tasks like cleaning hospital bogs, let alone going to medical school.

                      [–]United KingdomPabloPeublo 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      You said they'd be lucky to do it, not that they'd be unlikely to do it.

                      It's pretty obvious you were talking about lower class people mate, no need to backpedal now.

                      [–]JB_UK 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I suspect I disagree with you on everything else, but agree with you on this.

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                            [–]densityfunc 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

                            The question at the referendum was about whether or not certain decisions should be made at an EU level or at a national level. That's it. There was no question about whether or not to kick people out. Europe is still Europe and people are still welcome. Trade and travel existed before the EU and will exist after it. Anything else is just scare mongering. Don't let the media scare you.

                            [–]European UnionHadoopThePeople 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Only that I remember how difficult it was for a Romanian to come work in the UK before 2007. Hell, I remember football player transfers going sour because of work permits.

                            Go back to work permits and I assure you those people will prefer learning German than waiting months to get their permit only to have to renew it next year...

                            [–]Germanybawki 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            You are correct in pointing out the real reason for the referendum, but ukip and conspirators fueled a climate of hate and fear to suit their agenda. They suggested that leaving the EU will stop immigration(the UK has taken in the least refugees and immigrants out of all eu nations). Moreover you already have a lot of pakistani and indian immigrants who used the commonwealth as a route for immigration, which has nothing to do with the EU.

                            [–]CmdrBratwurst 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Yes, it was. That was one of the main points. Kick out Polish people (and everybody else). No freedom of movement.

                            Did you sleep under a rock for the past couple of months?

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                                [–]Éire (Ireland)Bar50cal 82ポイント83ポイント  (73子コメント)

                                The NHS is fucked unless they allow immigration and for Brexit immigration was well........

                                [–]Slovakiaserviust 109ポイント110ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                But NHS will get 350 million pounds a week more...

                                [–]cysun 61ポイント62ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Well it was proven high concentrated cash directly injected in the blood-stream can cure AIDS.

                                [–]Posh CrimeaLow_discrepancy 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                high concentrated cash directly

                                Highly concentrated dollars. This is the pound we're talking about here. 350M pounds is about 3 fiddy.

                                [–]namdor 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                /s

                                [–]Lithuania - FederalistShirinator 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                After it's privatized }:-)

                                [–]CanadaLafayetteLever 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Which America has shown, is great for population. /s

                                [–]CmdrBratwurst [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                Especially that part of the population that owns hospitals and pharmaceutical companies.

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                                  [–]HungarySerendipityQuest [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  That was calculated with the estimated post-Brexit exchange rate of the pound so its about 50 euros. /S

                                  [–]Greg3625 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                  No, because Farage says that "they" - creators of Leave campaign was mistaken about that. And he did not correct it during the longs weeks of campaign because... he's a lying twat.

                                  Sauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ktojE6WQA

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                                    [–]Polish bloodcubesnack[S] 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    It's mind boggling, to say the least.

                                    [–]United Kingdomfastingcondiment 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                    Every country in the world allows skilled immigration.

                                    [–]madhatter610 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    But not all of them do it with the same requirements. The US for example have very strict conditions for international MDs to exercise on their soil, so does the EU for non european MDs.

                                    With Brexit, the UK is going to be significantly less attractive for EU doctors simply because of the administrative burden. Whether or not you think that's a bad thing is up to you but I'm of the opinion that the UK is going to lose out in the process.

                                    [–]Job Stealing GuiriLupineChemist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                    Some countries are easier or harder to immigrate into as a skilled laborer. Ireland just needs to to have a skill and have an offer of 30k€ or more, as an example. It's not actually that easy to get a tier 2 visa in the UK.

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                                      [–]concretepigeon 14ポイント15ポイント  (41子コメント)

                                      We have plenty of non-EU migrants working in the NHS as it is. The UK has been perfectly happy for decades to give visas to people who come here to work for the NHS.

                                      [–]ALDEjtalin 23ポイント24ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                      But the workers may not be happy to go through the visa application and renewal process, without having any real rights on top of that. Wages would have to go up big time to be worth it.

                                      [–]Polish bloodcubesnack[S] 35ポイント36ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                      Visas are an ostracizing instrument. They keep reminding you that you seem to not contribute as much as the natives (because you have to keep asking for their government to let you stay, like you have something to prove) and the same rights do not apply to you.

                                      [–]Exiled to AustraliaDisdainForPlebs 8ポイント9ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                      Commonwealth workers seem to do fine and have done since they were booted from the right to reside in 73. Amazingly people will still want to go to the UK even once its outside the EU.

                                      [–]Cataloniagawyntrak 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      I don't know if Commonwealth workers "do fine". They do, as long as it is worthy to go to UK. There are only 1100 clinically qualified Australians working in the NHS; compare this with Zimbabwe, a much smaller country with 3182 workers.

                                      Moving abroad is not a simple decision: "hey, I will get 50$ more, let's move to another country!". It's more like "double salary and much better conditions than in my home country? OK, maybe". Having to get a visa makes UK much less attractive for qualified workforce.

                                      [–]JonnyPerk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                      Also if your not from a Commonwealth country and have to get a visa anyway, a Visa with which you can travel all of Europe seems better than one just for the UK.

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                                        [–]Irelandcollectiveindividual 11ポイント12ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                        I don't know about that, I worked with plenty of Aussies who resented the fact that I had more rights and security as a non Brit in the UK than they had even though the queen is their head of state.

                                        [–]bbbberlin 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                        It's so, so. Honestly, even as a Canadian, it is so much cheaper and easier for me to get a German work visa than a UK one, and my quality of life as a foreign university student is immensely higher (because no school fees, versus insane UK fees + high cost of living). I actually visited for a school interview in the UK, but the work-visa salary requirements are so high I don't think I could get a visa as a young academic/researcher after finishing school (cause the first few years you're really badly paid!), and during school I would be (as a percentage of my expenses) basically entirely dependent on grants/loans/family, instead of the chance for supporting myself. Of course many foreigners do make a successful go at it, look at London, but I don't think anyone considers the UK an easy visa country outside the "working-holiday" 1 year visa.

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                                            [–]European FederationxNicolex 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            With the self-inflicted economy problems and the increase in xenophobia, I wouldn't be surprised if a good number decide to leave.

                                            There are plenty of better options.

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                                              [–]IrelandZentornus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              Us Irish can still go over without visas so I couldn't care less tbh

                                              [–]Germanydefrgthzjukiloaqsw 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                              Doesn't UKIP want to privatize the NHS?

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                                                [–]SerbiaIce00Angel 280ポイント281ポイント  (150子コメント)

                                                the ironic thing is those people who keep demanding that immigrants get deported are in a lot of the cases less educated than the people they wanted deported.

                                                way to dig your own grave

                                                [–]JB_UK 65ポイント66ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                That is kind of the point though. People who are citizens want their interests in their own country put before citizens of other countries. The same logic applies to residents of a particular region, town or local area. And it is kind of a reasonable point to make (although I did vote Remain).

                                                Edit: Of course blocking immigration has other dramatic negative effects, for instance to reduce productivity and tax returns, as well as more vaguely formed ideas about being able to understand, trade with, and make deals with the rest of the world for stability, peace and economic development, so it is a balance. I expanded on the effects here, if anyone's interested.

                                                [–]HyDchen 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                Is it though? If these people don't have the education and qualifications to work a certain job then the employer obviously needs to get it filled from somewhere. Therefore not letting people with the qualifications in wouldn't mean that the job would go to a British citizen because they won't suddenly have the right qualifications.

                                                So the solution wouldn't be not letting people in, it would be providing better and cheaper education and even then there would still be jobs that would be better filled with immigrants because there might just be a better fit.

                                                Brexit won't change this at all.

                                                [–]rndmnck [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                Not sure how it is in the UK, but in the US, companies will often claim they can't find enough skilled workers so that they can hire foreign workers at much lower salaries who are dependent on that employer to stay there (for high skilled positions).

                                                [–]JB_UK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                Yes, I agree (I'm the poster above). I think there's a risk that the EU adopts a similar structure to the US, which will tend to lock in economic inequality. I wrote a long post about this, if you're interested.

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                                                    [–]dpash [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                    Which would be fine if the UK was flooded with unemployed doctors and nurses, but it's not. The UK government has not invested in medical training, and have only made the situation worse recently, by removing funding for some of the university courses required. We just don't train enough doctors in the UK.

                                                    [–]callcifer 5ポイント6ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                    People who are citizens want their interests in their own country put before citizens of other countries

                                                    How is kicking out doctors and nurses like those is putting their interest first?

                                                    [–]WtfMayt [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                    About 10 people out of 65 million actually want to kick out legal immigrants. The vast majority that voted leave wanted a points system so we could employ immigrants just like these.

                                                    I voted remain but the 'leave voters are all racist morons' circlejerk has gotten fucking ridiculous now. I guess this is what happens when we have open discussion on the internet, most of what you read is wrong and/or a gross oversimplification. This is reflected in the way people voted and the way the internet and media has reacted since the results.

                                                    [–]callcifer [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                    About 10 people out of 65 million actually want to kick out legal immigrants.

                                                    Really? Well then all 10 of those people must live in Huntingdon where they seemingly want to kick out "Polish Vermin". You know, people who are EU citizens and are legally living in the UK?

                                                    And don't even get me started on "We are fine with EU immigration, we just don't want muslims/browns". Leaving the EU (who has zero authority on non-EU immigration) has absolutely nothing to do with that, which says a lot about the brexiters who voted leave thinking they were getting rid of muslims.

                                                    [–]SammieData [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                    What makes you think its the doctors and nurses they want kicked out?

                                                    [–]DNamor [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                                    How is kicking out doctors and nurses like those is putting their interest first?

                                                    Honest question. I want to understand, I really want to know this.

                                                    Do you think when this all goes through that they'll be looking to kick out skilled or specialist workers, people like Doctors, Nurses etc?

                                                    Is that actually and honestly what you think is going to happen?

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                                                        [–]amijustamoodybastard 45ポイント46ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                                        Nobody wants doctors, nurses, teachers etc to be turned away

                                                        The public seem to want a point based system so only those with skills we NEED can come over.

                                                        Trade skills are being undercut by migration which has drove wages down, it's a race to the bottom.

                                                        I don't see anything wrong with that.

                                                        [–]bobby2286 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                        Nah sorry man but this is too easy and wrong. Practically nobody who voted leave has anything against German and Spanish educated workers coming to the UK. It's the uneducated Syrians who are gathering at Calais by the thousands that scare them. I'm not saying I agree with brexit, but you can't say that these people have it out for German anesthesists.

                                                        [–]ScaniaImmaSuckYoDick 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        The ironic thing is that those people who keep demanding that immigrants get deported are not talking about nurses, doctors or whatever the fuck job.

                                                        [–]Fuckedfromabove -2ポイント-1ポイント  (61子コメント)

                                                        The reason the high end of society wants open borders is to source cheap labour from overseas it's very rare a specialty position can't be fill internally. If you can't find a anyone to fill the job it's because the pay is too low to attract an applicant. Of course the low educated are louder in there opposition it's because they have more limited job prospects so yeah they get pissed when migrants take the only jobs they are likely to get.

                                                        [–]GreeceTheoGr 29ポイント30ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                        it's very rare a specialty position can't be fill internally.

                                                        with 5.4% unemployment its obvious that positions cannot be filled internally

                                                        if you think there was a waiting list for English scrub nurses you are delusional my friend. the NHS desperately needs more people, and it will be your mother and father that will be left without care (but you will keep blaming immigrants regardless anyway)

                                                        [–]Fuckedfromabove 9ポイント10ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                        I refuse to believe there's 17 million lazy racists. There's nothing wrong accepting migrants trained in the fields there needed in.

                                                        [–]GreeceTheoGr 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                        I refuse to believe there's 17 million lazy racists.

                                                        unemployment is 5.4%. I don't know why that is so hard to understand

                                                        yes, these people are needed. pretty much all EU immigration is needed since it brings in a net benefit

                                                        and of course you refuse to believe that there are any racists whatsoever, I think this is clear by now

                                                        [–]IrelandDarkSkyz 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                        EU immigration sure. Not a horde of migrants with no qualifications. Also you're putting words in his mouth, he said he refused to believe that all of the 17 million were racist.

                                                        [–]GreeceTheoGr 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        Also you're putting words in his mouth, he said he refused to believe that all of the 17 million were racist.

                                                        which is him putting words in my mouth because neither me nor anyone here ever hinted that 17 million are racist

                                                        but somehow its OK to put words in my mouth, bad if someone does it to a Brexiter god forbid - we need to divert all attention from racism ASAP

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                                                              [–]Cataloniagawyntrak 50ポイント51ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                              No.

                                                              I work in IT, which is a field where the workforce tends to be very multinational in the US and Europe. I guess that there are cheap shops full of exploited foreigners, but in the "big" companies which pay very much over average, the only criteria during the hiring process is excellence. If you think that Google and Facebook want to have more foreign workers to save a few pennies, you should think again.

                                                              [–]Poland Cmillz 30ポイント31ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                              IT is the holy grail of employment and none of the normal rules apply to it. Very few people from IT would complain about immigrants as well, as they are well-paid and well-treated, with long-term employment opportunities.

                                                              [–]diosio 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              very few people would complain

                                                              I wouldn't agree with this 100%. Keep in mind there is the issue of outsourced software development (i.e. coders in asian countries, working for peanuts and churning out poor quality code that "works"). This is a major concern for us.

                                                              [–]Poland Cmillz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              I agree, these are problems faced in Europe as well, especially in the UK (a lot of major companies outsource helpdesks to India, because supposedly they speak English). However, from my experiences and from what I heard from others, outsourcing to Asia is never a good choice, as software engineering is not really something that can be advanced by high quantity of low quality programmers.

                                                              [–]Cataloniagawyntrak 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                              In the US at least, many IT local workers are crying all the time about H-1Bs stealing their cookies. In Spain, the "evil cheap IT workers" are the Latin Americans.

                                                              [–]Irkam 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              In France the "evil cheap IT workers of doom" are Indians.

                                                              [–]Poland Cmillz 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                              Maybe, I've worked in several European countries on-site, as well as remotely in US and I've never experienced any kind of immigration complaints.

                                                              On the other hand, I work mostly with startups, with young people born in the Internet era. I wouldn't be surprised if there is such anti-immigration vibe amongst the older workers.

                                                              The IT salaries in US are also among the highest so the problem may lie in shortage of specialists (which actually happens worldwide in IT), which hikes the prices up higher than the execs would like to pay.

                                                              [–]diosio 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              young people born in the Internet era

                                                              I would love that! Sounds like an amazing environment!

                                                              [–]European UnionAreshian 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              I work in one of the big tech companies. We are located in a small office, ~60 or so. We probably have people from 30 different countries, all quite young. Is actually pretty good, and people is only interested on where are you from to learn stuff (regional food, how was the fall of the USSR in your country, what TV shows you were on TV as a kid...). As millz said, young people from the internet era (well, slightly older, but almost) have it easy to find common cultural ground.

                                                              [–]diosio 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              that's pretty cool! It's how it should be I think!

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                                                                [–]SpurdoSpoerde 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Of course, Disney never happened.

                                                                [–]Walesmodernbenoni 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Well he's talking about the jobs for people with lower levels of education, who would not normally go into IT. Certainly not for companies like Facebook and Google. So while I believe your anecdotal evidence that in IT they favour the best applicant rather than the cheapest, it doesn't really address /u/Fuckedfromabove's point at all.

                                                                [–]FranceConradfr 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Yeah U.S companies don't abuse H1B visas to lower wages and reduce turnover ...

                                                                [–]lightbot 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                I take your point but don't agree. The argument that if the salary was "correct" for some of these jobs then locals would fill them. Take Norway as an example however where service jobs are paid extremely well yet almost exclusively filled by immigrants. Same is true in most developed countries, the locals don't want these kind of menial jobs.

                                                                Open borders are for attracting highly skilled workers as much as anything else.

                                                                [–]flyinfishy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                There is a MASSIVE skills gap. In the US it's estimated at around 5 million jobs, in the UK it's just under 1 million. We don't have enough engineers, medics, other STEM field specialities. It's a massive problem. The low skilled labour is a large number of the immigrants but the lack of skilled labour is a huge drag on the economy. Previously, we were viewed as one of the most open and accepting countries in the world. Now, I fear the skilled immigrants ( who can pick and choose where to move ) may be put off. Hopefully not, but our NHS needs well trained doctors. Almost 50% of F2s (people 2 years out of med school) didn't carry on last year, we are haemorrhaging home grown talent at an absurd rate

                                                                [–]Germany-Plastic- 24ポイント25ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                                As a wise man said before:

                                                                When an immigrant with bad or no education, language skills, no social connections and a different cultural background takes your job... it was about time, because apparently you really suck at it.

                                                                [–]Earthslopeclimber 40ポイント41ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                Or maybe it's because those immigrants would agree to do the same work for a lower salary on worse conditions...

                                                                [–]LithuaniaAirazz 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                Employers can't pay less than minimum wage in the UK.

                                                                [–]Earthslopeclimber 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                They don't have to be minimal wage jobs, it could easily be 3x that. What matters is that native British would demand more for it (and would get it if there wasnt someone who'd do it for less)

                                                                also

                                                                worse conditions

                                                                [–]Thomaskingo 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                That's the dream scenario, but what will actually happen is that the service won't be bought, because the labor cost is to high to render the service or product profitable.

                                                                If a Romanian gets 80 pounds a day digging cellars manually in London (the only possible way to do it), and said Romanian gets sent home permanently, then the salary for digging cellars isn't going to suddenly double or triple because otherwise no Brit will do it. Instead the expenses connected with expanding a townhouse cellar will be so steep, that only the ultra rich will bother with it. In the end, this means few extra jobs for brits and loss of a lot of low skill industry inside the country.

                                                                [–]narwi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Except that this is not what has happened with immigration, including with work related immigration anywhere. That very much includes all of immigration to UK, immigration into US and H1B via holders to US, as the overall numbers of people employed and the salry paid have both risen.

                                                                Would you happen to have a case where this was not true?

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                                                                  [–]TheGhostOfMRJames 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  That's true. One of the most exploitative things I have seen though is in the agricultural industry (no surprises there). Workers were hired from eastern Europe at min wage. Then they had their "room and board" deducted from their salaries, for the pleasure if sleeping in bunk houses. Not sure if the authorities put a stop to this, but it was awful.

                                                                  [–]Fuckedfromabove 21ポイント22ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                  Yeah or because they're willing to work for half the price living in slum conditions 10 to a house to be able to afford living on a shit wage.

                                                                  [–]Germany-Plastic- 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                  There is a minimal wage in the UK no?

                                                                  [–]The Netherlandsnitroxious 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                  some jobs shouldnt be anywhere near minimum wage

                                                                  [–]Germany-Plastic- 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  And those jobs are not for uneducated people

                                                                  [–]The Netherlandsnitroxious 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  they can be, especially in areas like construction, in which experience is far more valuable than a piece of paper

                                                                  [–]Fuckedfromabove 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Minimum wage isn't enough to live on in many cases. 'The working poor' is a phrase used to describe people in this situation.

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                                                                    [–]My_PW_Is_123456789 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Or you might want to have a decent life, a job that does not kill you by the time your 58 due to the physical abuse and the stress.

                                                                    What is so fucking wrong with that?

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                                                                      [–]Jeffy29 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      The reason the high end of society wants open borders is to source cheap labour from overseas it's very rare a specialty position can't be fill internally

                                                                      If you need 2 doctors, of course it's not hard, but if you need 200 thousand then it can be a problem.

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                                                                        [–]cultofcargo 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                        My father works in the tech industry in London, says 10 to 15% of the staff are British, everyone else is European.

                                                                        [–]narwi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Because movement has been free, London pays well, it is a wonderful city if city life is what you want and changing jobs is easy because there is always demand. If some of that gets removed, things will change. So will tax take from income tax and vat.

                                                                        [–]Diapergenie 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        FAKE! I can read their handwriting.

                                                                        [–]Belgiumnic027 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                        The health sector here in Belgium is also full of migrants (EU ones mostly)here in Belgium.

                                                                        Freedom of movement was needed and one of the best thing that could happen for health sector.

                                                                        [–]madhatter610 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                        The "need" for migrant doctors was created by our own institutions though. Basically we have created a system where we limit the number of doctors we can form and then fill the gap in public hospitals by hiring EU imports (mainly from Romania at the moment) or even by doctors from outside the EU through programs like FOSFOM (which have the added benefits for the hospitals of being less expensive and more disposable).

                                                                        I'm all for free movement but it's been used as a solution to a problem we created ourselves.

                                                                        [–]Belgiumnic027 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                        The health sector isn't only about doctors, most of the tasks are done by nurses or technologists.

                                                                        Here in Belgium the need is more about technicians/nurses/etc than doctors. And from what I see on that image, it seems that UK is lacking technicians and nurses too.

                                                                        And the limitation is there because doctors costs too much to form and attract too much people and most doctors formed here want to be independant, not working in hospital.

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                                                                          [–]ineedcoffeepls 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                          Spanish dude is hot...

                                                                          Uh, but anyway, this picture does not serve what is actually happening or going to happen.

                                                                          [–]United KingdomBlussy96 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          It doesn't need to, just needs to be a part of the circlejerk

                                                                          [–]Kaisern 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                          Yeah, I'm sure that doctors and nurses will have a hard time getting a work visa.

                                                                          [–]Belgiumnic027 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          Yeah, I'm sure that these people are protesting because they are going to be affected by a Brexit. Stupid immigrants /s.

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                                                                            [–]GreeceSoupias 22ポイント23ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                            I do not get the meaning of this. Why people think that brexit means all these people get deported? It only means that people would need a working visa from now on. Essentially UK now has control of who works there by granting or rejecting visas.

                                                                            [–]narwi 12ポイント13ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                            You really imagine that if you tell people who have been until now been free to live and work somewhere that they will from now on need a visa for residence and work that a good portion would not leave?

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                                                                              [–]SlovakiaZarZar123 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                              Isn't like every 4th nurse non-native?

                                                                              [–]North Rhine-WestphaliaSensitive_nob 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              • Nurses: Philipines

                                                                              • Doctors: Romania

                                                                              • Denitists: India

                                                                              [–]United KingdomBlussy96 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              Something like that, but this photo is in Hackney, where the population is 36% White British, so it's obviously more.

                                                                              [–]United Kingdompaulusmagintie 11ポイント12ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                              Our NHS is propped up by immigrants, if all of them stopped working so would the NHS, so people hating immigrants coming into the country and working where our own people won't is stupid.

                                                                              We have a shortage of Doctors and Nurses even with all of these guys coming over for crying out loud. Preston's AE department had to close because of a shortage.

                                                                              [–]United KingdomBlussy96 2ポイント3ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                              If we want nurses and doctors, we give nurses and doctors a visa. Do you understand? Free movement with the EU isn't required in order to accept doctors.

                                                                              [–]narwi 9ポイント10ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                              You also need to have doctors want to come to the UK.

                                                                              [–]United KingdomBlussy96 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                              Doctors will still want to come. We are still English-speaking, we still have high wages, and we still have London. There are millions of skilled workers in India who are queuing up for the opportunity to work in the UK, never mind the entire world.

                                                                              [–]madhatter610 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                              Yes doctors will still come, but the UK already wasn't that attractive for high level EU doctors and without free mobility it's going to be even worse. You are going to have doctors, but their quality might be significantly lower than what you had when the UK was part of the EU.

                                                                              This is just my opinion as a belgian MD, I'm not well versed in UK politics and there might be other advantages in NHS management with Brexit.

                                                                              [–]United KingdomBlussy96 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                              Fair point, right now about 26% of our doctors gained their qualification abroad (non-EU), and about 11% were in the EEA. Just some interesting stats http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/register/search_stats.asp

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                                                                                [–]HyDchen [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                And yet it will be quite a bit less attractive than it was before as you have to maintain the work visa, people won't forget that a lot of people in the UK actually don't like immigrants which was shown when looking at the way some of the leave voters argued and on top of that for now the UKs economical situation is weakened and uncertain.

                                                                                It simply means if you have to decide whether to move to, let's say Berlin or London, quite a few people who would have previously said they'd prefer London, might now find it more attractive to move to Berlin because it's easier, they have more rights. The UK will be less attractive. It won't stop immigration but it will be different.

                                                                                And that's already assuming you won't have to accept free movement if you want to access the single market anyway.

                                                                                [–]United KingdomBlussy96 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                people won't forget that a lot of people in the UK actually don't like immigrants

                                                                                Britain still remains a very welcoming place

                                                                                Berlin or London, quite a few people who would have previously said they'd prefer London, might now find it more attractive to move to Berlin

                                                                                This also comes with difficulties, finding a new house, perhaps moving your family and most of all, learning a new language.

                                                                                And that's already assuming you won't have to accept free movement if you want to access the single market anyway.

                                                                                True

                                                                                [–]narwi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                While true, it will still mean losing experienced ones and getting rookies in return.

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                                                                                    [–]United KingdomBenV94 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Why is this a good thing? IT just exposes problems for the UK.

                                                                                    In Germany, the health sector is manned by EU or Non EU people at a level of 5% or so, with shortages mainly in the care sector and some nurse areas.

                                                                                    In the UK its 15% or so.

                                                                                    Europe contributes sure, but this exposes a problem more than anything. We need to train more nurses. Government recently removed cap on nurse training places which should help hopefully.

                                                                                    [–]CybsecS 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                    It is a pity that a country can't educate and motivate enough people to staff its own hospitals, and must instead import specialists from all over the world.

                                                                                    [–]leisure_goblin [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                    It's the shitty conditions that put people off. Junior doctors were on strike recently about the insane hours they were being made to work.

                                                                                    [–]bonjouratous 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Hey, that German guy stole my job! I wanted to be an nanaestatatetic doctor too but I have to be a lawyer instead. And the Spanish guy stole my heart

                                                                                    [–]bad_evil_lt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Having a mass who is dumb enough to live here, even if it meant having to get worse before it starts to get worse before it starts to get worse before it starts to get better either.

                                                                                    [–]Happy to be European, while figuring out what it means to be oneOda_Krell [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                                    Great picture, seriously. But one question immediately comes to my mind:

                                                                                    Why not more of this just a bit earlier?

                                                                                    [–]traderguy1173 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Soooo not British

                                                                                    [–]Greeceleanaconda [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Of course the Greek guy is the urologist

                                                                                    [–]xhankhillx [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    why aren't people getting it

                                                                                    the people who want the immigrants gone want the muslims gone more than anything. it's why they want to "keep Britain British" aka white. all these people would be fine in their eyes, maybe a bit too tan... but that can be sorted out living in the north for a little while, yeah?

                                                                                    they directed their anger at the EU when outside the EU we're likely to have more muslims here anyway

                                                                                    [–]The NetherlandsTraveller9011 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                    Ha, the only Briton there is a Pakistani. Globalism can real punch you in the face like this. Perfect image. How are the English enjoying London?

                                                                                    [–]newsfromanotherstar [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    They're not. They're mostly complaining about how expensive and overcrowded it is whilst buying extortionate pints of beer.

                                                                                    [–]United KingdomBlussy96 5ポイント6ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                                    It's probably too late to comment now, but no thread has ever annoyed me so much.

                                                                                    1. This is Hackney, Hackney's population is 36% White British, it is only expected that it's hospital is made up of majority immigrants.

                                                                                    2. Free movement isn't required in order to accept doctors, or anyone. If there is a need for foreign doctors, we will give foreign doctors a visa, and trust me, there are plenty of doctors who would love the opportunity to work in the UK.

                                                                                    [–]Swedenqjornt 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                    just wait and see the UK crumble to dust :)

                                                                                    uk leaves the eu, a lot of eu workers will move elsewhere not to bother not being in a eu country (Germany, France, Sweden, etc, all prosperous countries in need of medical staff) , Scotland, NIR and maybe Gibraltar will leave UK, London isn't happy at all for leaving EU. You'll be left with England, Wales and a disheartened London. And a weak pound with nothing to export (Scotland leaves with the oil) which is harsh on UKs economy. :D

                                                                                    But at least you can somewhat halt the immigration, which is the root of all your problems, right? :D

                                                                                    brexit salt is the best salt

                                                                                    [–]United KingdomBlussy96 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                    brexit salt is the best salt

                                                                                    Says after being completely salty himself. The only thing making me salty is how unknowledgeable everybody in this thread is about the situation, including yourself.

                                                                                    Now, you gonna respond to my comment? Or just accept that I'm right?

                                                                                    [–]lutwidj 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                    He is salty because his country is actually crumbling.

                                                                                    source: Swede too.

                                                                                    [–]United KingdomBlussy96 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                    Haha, I was going to mention Sweden but I thought that would be unfair on the other Swedes

                                                                                    [–]lutwidj [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Nah, don't hesitate. Sweden is going the way of the dodo if nothing is done to prevent it.

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                                                                                          [–]empress_sisi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          And so began what was later referred to as "the golden era" for british-born scrub nurses. ;-)

                                                                                          [–]Xenu_RulerofUniverse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          "Immigrants are not stealing your jerbs"

                                                                                          checkmate eurocommies

                                                                                          [–]Wewlizard 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          I was treated at this hospital last year and a similar proportion of the patients were non British too.

                                                                                          [–]EuropeSpeech500 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                          Another reminder of how awful it was to vote leave. Our only blessing right now is that Boris is backtracking hard on the Brexit.

                                                                                          [–]Azlan82 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          Why? Not one single nurse or doctor will be stopped coming to the country under a points based system

                                                                                          [–]YoungerThanSheFeels 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          And they can all apply for Highly Skilled Worker visas and will probably have them approved! Amazing that they would have to go through the same process to work in a foreign country for literally anywhere in the world other than Europe. It's almost as if the world didn't stop turning just because the UK voted to leave the EU.

                                                                                          Paburon has the right idea.

                                                                                          [–]TonyIscariot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          Why is this a good thing? These people should be doing these jobs in their own countries, rather than deserting them?

                                                                                          [–]garblednonsense 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          Anyone who wants to work in Homerton is welcome to as far as I'm concerned. Unless it has magically become an ex-shithole since I left.

                                                                                          [–]elf123012 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          Having a mass who is dumb enough to live in a way that seems to be affected by a Brexit.

                                                                                          [–]Veggie_Prussian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          And the Italian guy is taking the picture I suppose

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