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How many of you are ex-Wehraboos? (self.ShitWehraboosSay)

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I'm asking for a, uh, friend.

When I he was younger so many years ago, he totally believed that German equipment was vastly superior to anything the Allies had. That Rommel was the greatest general of all time who was held back by Hitler's incompetence. Or that Operation Sealion totally would've worked, guys.

Never a full-on "Hitler did nothing wrong" person, the Internet wasn't around when I he was a kid to fact just, so he just believed everything he heard from his friends. Especially that dude who had a mustache in the 8th grade and used to bring nunchucks to school because he was in training to be a ninja but don't tell anyone cause its a huge secret.

Of course, he also believed back then that Bruce Lee faked his own death to go fight the Chinese Triads. Which he now knows is probably more likely than the German's chances of successfully landing troops on English soil.

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[–]Wikkoeevery german saved at least five shermans 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am an ex-Where'saboo. I would insist that "Where's Wally?" was a superior puzzle book series to all its competition, and would even spend hundreds of dollars for top-of-the-line Wally garb. I even forced my dog to dress like Woof.

But to be completely honest, frank and 100% devoid of memery, I used to be a full-on neo-Nazi. Like, in the full extent of what that word implies. I was fascinated by the German military (and the rest of the Axis) as well of course, but I considered myself an actual proponent of the ideology behind it as well. Actually, the latter eclipsed the former by quite a lot back in the day. Although I had those beliefs, even I saw that the Nazi war effort was a failure riddled with many mistakes and inexcusable fuck ups. I merely admired them from the perspective of them being people who fought and died for "the cause", as it were.

[–]Ace4929 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you dont mind my asking, what made you change your mind?

[–]CreshalVictor's fifth column 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think there's a difference between just passively absorbing wehraboo bullshit because of simply not knowing any better (it doesn't help that wehraboo sources are all over Wikipedia and everywhere else), and turning it into some kind of belief system and defending it.

[–]welchblvd 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. I have always been a total Nazi-hatin' Freeaboo but, hey, you read "the Panther was the forerunner of the modern MBT" enough you're probably going to start believing it.

Once you know it what you're looking at it's amazing how pervasive wheraboo bullshit is.

[–]MightyVanguardM7 Priest in the church of Patton 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to be a German armor boo, but that kind of faded. I wasn't a 'German armor stronk-er than Allied armor!', but I did enjoy them to the point that I didn't think the reliability issues were that bad. Then I started reading into armor from all throughout the war and after my studies and a few sessions of guiding prayers, I became an M7 Priest in the house of Patton.

[–]Armenian-Jensen420/88 just Blitz it! 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I used to make these theories on how the germans could have invaded britain, how they could have beaten back the landings in normandy, how the could have defeated the soviets etc. Not from a "the nazis were cool" but more a "war is interesting" point of view. Still get twitches when i see a Tiger tank. But i've been clean for 4 years and there is no way om falling back into that hole.

You're never taking my Pz.1 from me though.

[–]MMSTINGRAY 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well they maybe could have stopped the Normandy landings, or slowed them down a lot more, it's just it wouldn't have changed the final outcome of the war.

[–]CompositeGNR 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is a trap, right?

[–]welcometothezone 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Search the area, he must be hiding those mods somewhere!

Burn the whole thread if you can't find them.

[–]Comrade_Hugh_JassSherman's March through the Reich 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No tovarishch kamerade, is not trap

[–]BrotherSurpliceEnglish Channel can't melt steel river barges 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to think that Rommel was a pretty cool guy and that the Nazis could actually have won if Hitler listened to his generals.

[–]SergeantSpookAfter all, if there's anyone we can trust, it's the Nazis. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've always been way more into the Western Allied side of things.

I used to believe the whole "human waves, Soviets kill hundreds of thousands of their own men, yah dah" thing though. Fortunately not for too long.

[–]manhands30Stalingrad was Thermopylae, kiddo 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Alright, you've got me; I still enjoy reading alt-history, much of which is focused on possible German victories (particularly my favorite author, Peter Tsouras).

I used to tell myself "At least it's kinda sorta based in fact! Alien intervention is kept to a minimum! I cut Turtledove out of my life, man! I'm past that.", but reading this sub makes me furrow my brow and think that there's no way Germany could've achieved anything close to a victory.

That being said, Disaster at Stalingrad is still tons of fun to read.

[–]nichnick [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I read Turtledove. Your comment makes me feel dirty. What the fuck did the dove do to you mang?

y u b hatin

[–]manhands30Stalingrad was Thermopylae, kiddo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think Turtledove has reached the point in his career where he knows he can just churn out shit writing and based on when he was great, people will buy it.

I lost my zeal for him at the end of the Southern Victory series (which I feel should be required reading at r/shitleeaboossay but is still great). The War That Came Early series was just...boring. I read the first and part of the second, and it's just all the bad habits he had from earlier series over and over again. I'd rather he had written a follow-up to Southern Victory called Sam Carsten Needs Zinc-Oxide.

So I guess my issue with Turtledove is that he became a bad writer, and his goofy ideas couldn't be glossed over with interesting reading anymore.

I'll admit to loving Guns of the South though.

[–]Comrade_Hugh_JassSherman's March through the Reich 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Back when I started playing more WWII games I was almost wehraboo, enough that I'd bought in to a quite bit of their bullshit but not enough that I donned the "Waffen-SS Das Reich" username and plastered all my profiles with Rommel quotes. After I became more well acquainted with Axis players I pretty much did a heel turn.

[–]Mafaka3221 Kar 98k = 5 M1 Garand 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rommel has quotes?

[–]Wikkoeevery german saved at least five shermans 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it."

Which was a mistranslation of "In absence of logistics, go find Allied soldiers and surrender to them."

[–]nichnick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Hier.

[–]SlavophilesAnonymousDresden is the holocaust [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I used to think that Hitler brought back the German economy. I was also a pretty big fan of Mussolini in those days, too. I thought everything he did was justified because it prevented the Communists from gaining control, the trains ran on time, etc.

[–]Vympel1794 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, we gotta admit that it's very commonplace... Although I was since the youngest age (and still am to an extent...) a Nazi-hating slavaboo, I had these ideas, until aged 14-15, that Germany could totally have won the war with Rommel in charge, if they released the Me-262 as soon as possible, and all of that BS.

Well, after all, everything is possible with the first Hearts of Iron game and cheat codes... then I began reading something else than military books from the 70s and 80s (you had tons of books about brave, well equipped, not Nazi at all Germans following orders and fighting the Asiatic hordes, courtesy of the Cold War scare), which began chipping away the wehrb propaganda, but, as expected, I began dumping that down the drain as soon as I got interested in the technology and overall work behind military hardware, which includes how to produce it massively and bring it to the frontline, while keeping it fully equipped.

[–]RittermeisterSouthern democrat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Aye. When I was an edgelord 16-year-old reenactor I got to the point that I could excuse the Malmedy Massacre. German soldiers were traumatized by the strategic bombing campaign, woogie woogie woogie! By 19 or 20 I had flipped to the opposite extreme become the careful and circumspect scholar you know and love.