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[–]HardcoreHazzaCapitalist Aussie "Statist" 35ポイント36ポイント  (8子コメント)

Switzerland peacefully sleeping through nightmare Europe for over 200 years.

[–]TheSelfGoverned中国制造 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland

[–]HardcoreHazzaCapitalist Aussie "Statist" 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

What's with the link?

[–]TheSelfGoverned中国制造 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Their militia-based culture may have been one of the reasons why they were left alone to begin with. It is hard to believe that Germany didn't crush them simply because their small military decided to remain neutral.

Nation states always have a difficult time with guerrilla tactics. See the Middle East currently.

[–]StuhlSocial Market Economy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Switzerland and Liechtenstein both produced stuff for the Nazis during the. War. But Hitler he ideological reasons to hate Switzerland.

[–]Zoltar23Better dead then red 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also the whole mountain thing as well.

[–]of_ice_and_rocka sensation that could become a liberating crisis: goo.gl/wu90yN -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Or, you know, maybe the Nazis weren't actually imperialistic.

[–]TheSelfGoverned中国制造 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Never heard that one before.

[–]of_ice_and_rocka sensation that could become a liberating crisis: goo.gl/wu90yN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

An actual autodidact deserves it to himself to read at least one revisionist work on each popular narrative.

Regarding World War II, I think what you'll have a hard time refuting is that the Nazis didn't actually want a conflict.

[–]LizardFingers 44ポイント45ポイント  (15子コメント)

We made the right choice boys.

[–]sunflowerfreedom 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

angleterre = England?

[–]GuyFromV 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Looks like Poland is better off.

[–]ProjectD13XI hate roads 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Still not into space so that's debatable

[–]GuyFromV 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gotta master screwing in lightbulbs first.

[–]pinakionAncap 14ポイント15ポイント  (12子コメント)

The second image is wrong. The EU is largely a French project which was imposed on Germany, not the other way around.

[–]Jamie54[S] 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

Maybe a few decades ago. But that's a good reflection of the picture in 2016. By the same token you could say France imposed Nazism on Germany prior to 1040 with the treaty of Versailles etc.

[–]insincere_fondueAnarcho-Capitalist 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

1040, good year. #IREMEBERTHEANGLOSAXONS

[–]ThatSodomiteMinarchist 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

1066 Best year of life, strong Normans remove Anglo scum!

[–]KobathesealionNeo-Reactionary 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I Hastings to do!

[–]ProScienceVacBot 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

Actually, it is correct. The Nazi's started planning this in 1944 when they realized they were going to lose the war.

Then in the 50's the Bilderberg Group, chaired by Nazi Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands started formalizing plans for a "common market", the Euro and the EU.

[–]KobathesealionNeo-Reactionary 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Considering the EU's ethnic and racial policies I doubt much of that old Nazi influence is left, or that it was ever especially strong. Interesting to think it might have done a good deal to help Europe stand against Communism back in the day. The Bilderberg club might have actually served a genuine purpose.

[–]LokgarEdgar Allen Poe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also the fact Bernhard was a nazi up until 1934, and there is a lack of evidence to indicated he was privy to any fourth Reich plans.

[–]MorningLtMtn 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Bilderberg club might have actually served a genuine purpose.

Yes. Their own.

[–]True_KapernicusVoluntaryist 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mate, the French are allowed to believe that to protect their pride, it is quite clearly Mitteleuropa. Why do you think it expanding Eastward so aggressively? German foreign policy.

[–]Rudd-X 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The EU is a CIA project.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/the-european-union-always-was-a-cia-project-as-brexiteers-discov/

Not even remotely a conspiracy, bro. It was started by the Office of Strategic Services to rein in Europe and to make it pliable to American interests.

In a sense, Brexit is the independence of Britain from U.S. interests.

[–]Turagian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Britain is still in US interests.

[–]Octo-puss 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

I don't get it. Could someone explain?

Thanks

[–]doorstop_scraper 11ポイント12ポイント  (8子コメント)

The top image depicts the early stages of WW2, with germany having defeated poland, czecho, belgium and the netherlands. Now it's turning it's eyes on France, who is asking for help from England who is retreating from Dunkirk.

The bottom image depicts the EU, with Germany dressed up as some kind of psycho threatening france, who is asking for help from England who is leaving the EU due to brexit.

[–]MorningLtMtn 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I get most of this. As an American, I see the EU as some sort of consolidation of power between whoever is strongest between Germany and France at the given time, with England chirping in from time to time but nobody really listening because, "fuck England."

Am I off base here?

[–]doorstop_scraper 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sort of. They have been a tripod of power in europe since Napoleon, and that doesn't look like it'll change anytime soon.

[–]MorningLtMtn 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Generally, Germany and France are left and England is right, no?

[–]doorstop_scraper 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

England specifically is conservative, yes, the UK is more mixed. France has been hard left wing for a long time, but that looks likely to change. Germany is sort of centrist (Angela Merkel is conservative).

[–]Rudd-X 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Small correction: it isn't "some kind of psycho". In Polandball lore, the tiny eyes of Germanball appear, exclusively and almost always, on comic panels where Germanball is transitioning either to AustroHungarianEmpireball or to ThirdReichball.

Edit: I am wrong. The Reichtangle (the only Poland"ball" with the tiny eyes) is supposed to represent the Fourth Reich. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/211glg/a_brief_history_of_germany/cg8pqn9

[–]doorstop_scraper 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was talking about the EU flag draped over his head like the shatner mask from halloween. I know about niemcy, lol.

[–]Octo-puss 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for that.

Why is Germany dressed up as the EU?

[–]doorstop_scraper 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because Merkel is pretty much calling the shots.

[–]footinmymouth -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Germany controls the EU, so it's like Nazi Germany

[–]durdygAnarcho-Capitalist 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn. This needs to be all over Reddit.

[–]Cato_Keto_Cigars 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Ball and Chain metaphor is great.

[–]chbrulesBig Words Go Here to Impress Strangers on The Internet 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I literally feel like the Germans are fighting an economic war over Europe. The Germans lost the real physical war, so they resorted to economic warfare. Keep the little guys in line and control their money.

[–]cyrusolblack markets best markets -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Your feelings are bullshit.

[–]LethnAnarcho-Voluntaryist 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

It may not be the German people I think they're just trying to live their lives, it's certainly German politicians and their backers though.

[–]cyrusolblack markets best markets 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Frankly, I'm not interested in excuses, downplay. The core issue I have with millenials, with young people like me, is that they do what feels good not what does good.

Which is why they are in favor of the state, see it as a replacement for their parents.

Which is why they are in favor of leftist bullshit that has been proven wrong over and over.

Which is why they are never in favor of freedom and self-responsibility. Especially the letter, they are of course never responsible for their own failures.

Which is why they (mis)judge an entirety of a group. It's easy to say Germans are evil. It's easy to pick on them, at last they have to repent for their sin that their grandparents were evil nazis!

I can tell you that as little as 5 or 10% of those who voted Merkel maybe did so for here view on economical topics. And if they did so it's not because they truely believe that austerity by itself was a good decision (they couldn't understand) but because they believe that "Merkel did something right? We are good off?".

The vast majority of those that elected Merkel did so because of her views on immigration/refugees, her foreign policy. It feels good to "help those in need".

Anyways, she got 18,165,446 votes. 44,309,925 people voted, or 71.5% of those that are eligible to vote. What's with all the Germans that didn't vote, or at least didn't vote Merkel? She in fact was the only candidate in favor of austerity.

So I completely disagree with the notion that the evil Germans formed the evil Fourth Reich, named it EU and basically enslaved all other countries after 2008. It's based on feelings alone and simply not true.

It's still open for debate whether austerity truely was the worst policy that could happen or not. But that debate can only happen after people stop listening to their shit feelings alone and start use their brains.

[–]LethnAnarcho-Voluntaryist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you're right, but it's not just that, I think that they have been brought up in schools and universities and it's not far off at all to say they have been brainwashed into their believes rather than actually choose them after looking at multiple perspectives.

This is why there are left wingers voting voting for leave regardless of their political beliefs and this actually went against our mainstream party because the anti-capitalist die-hard left here are just as out of touch and living in their own bubbles as the ones in America are.

I mean fuck me, I had some twat trying to lecture me about Islam the other day and he said was from fucking Silicon Valley so the Muslims over there will be absolutely nothing like here in the UK. I dare any of these cunts to come around where I live or around London with an LGBT flag or an Israeli flag on their own and see how long it takes before they get stalked and harassed over it.

These people do not live in the real world like the rest of us and I think it took this type of think to shock them into realising that their views aren't actually correct like they have been taught by their university professors and school teachers.

[–]TheSlicemanCometh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The similarities between the current German power grab over Europe and the third Reich are somewhat eery to say the least when you really think about it.

[–]pdimitrakosDavid Friedman -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

this sub disappoints me more every day. you clearly don't get what's going on in Europe.

[–]4771cu5 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Help them understand.

[–]Jamie54[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's your problem with it

[–]OG_Platnum 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not an argument

[–]doorstop_scraper 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or maybe you have it wrong?

[–]seinfan9God, Guns, Gold, Liberty 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's not to get about their failing economies and the mass importation of third worlders that have no intention of assimilating and causing a strain on their welfare systems and wreaking social havoc in the form of violence and sharia law?

[–]PonaldRaulAnarcho-Capitalist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you give a decent explanation I will buy you gold. I'm legitimately interested in hearing your side.

[–]Universe_Man 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know how you can tell someone's smart? They tell other people they're stupid without explaining why.

[–]AECaros -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yes, because an economic union is exactly the same as literal Nazis. This is a rational viewpoint for rational people.

[–]Major-Freedom☺ 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

What about metaphorical Nazis? They're an underused group.

[–]Jamie54[S] 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

no, because the EU is not an economic union

[–]footinmymouth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Note that it's Germany behind the EU flag, you cannot deny that "Austerity" was imposed largely by the sway of Germany.

[–]fcumbadass 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except the EU started as an economic and trading union and evolved into a European Superstate

[–]Eagle--Anarcho-Rastafarian -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

Switzerland tacitly supported the Nazis by being neutral?

[–]Jamie54[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

no? I don't see that being implied anywhere?

[–]Eagle--Anarcho-Rastafarian 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh I see Switzerland asleep at the Nazi's side.

EDIT: Just realized it's arranged geographically. Whoops.

[–]CatsWithKnivesVoluntarist 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because the Swiss don't give a fuck.

[–]Major-Freedom☺ 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Could you explain your understanding of what NEUTRAL means?

[–]Eagle--Anarcho-Rastafarian 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not being involved in either side financially, militarily, or in any other way I deem not neutral.

[–]Major-Freedom☺ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

So...Switzerland then?