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[META] State of this Sub (self.The_Donald)

egoloquitur が 投稿

I hope this post is taken with the serious and constructive tone in which it was intended:

This sub is gaining subscribers by the day. As Trump becomes more and more the perennial front runner in the GOP primary, I think it might be time to analyze the quality of the content on this sub.

Like it or not, if you go over to /r/sandersforpresident, you'll find (yes, with editorializing), useful articles, news, updates, etc. on that subreddit's candidate. Whereas on /r/The_Donald, you find (largely) memes, jokes, and tired, circlejerk-y cliches about energy levels. I can't help but imagine that this subreddit is missing out on a tremendous opportunity to show, to new visitors, that the campaign, and indeed the candidate himself, is not a joke...not just one big meme. Instead, reading through some of the posts and the comments on here, it takes some time to sift through the content while you try and decide whether those who post here are poking fun at Trump or truly supporting him; it reads as that much of a circlejerk subreddit.

To the extent the members and moderators of the sub want to keep the content this way: that's fine, I suppose. I just see this sub's potential as a force for real assistance to the Trump campaign, and the tired, meme-y nonsense that makes it's way to the frontpage of this sub, and the top of each thread, really hurts Trump's message, and risks turning off new supporters. As he picks up more delegates we will only pick up more subscribers: I think our material should be (largely) as serious as the candidate which we support.

Again...just some thoughts.

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[–]cocaine_muslimAZ 28ポイント29ポイント  (6子コメント)

I would love to be proven wrong, but I think most of Reddit has already made up its mind about us.

[–]lolbird597UK 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah most just come here going "you guys are all trolls right #feelthebern"

[–]i_saw_a_moosePA 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Most redditors have no idea what Trump actually stands for. The funny thing is when you look at the issues, he appeals to many voters, both with his anti-lobbyist stance and his under appreciated libertarian side.

I think the sub should remain as hilarious and high energy as it has been (it's working. people want to be entertained) but with more links to positive articles and honest portrayals of Trump's "human side".

In the end this is an amazing combination.

Trump needs to be branded as a mythological badass who is secretly kinder than he lets on. I would venture to say the same could be said for many of the commenters here in this sub. Beneath our harsh exteriors and insane levels of energy lies an earnest patriotism and hope for the well being of our fellow Americans, as well as a desire to reclaim the greatness of this country, that we have all heard so much about, but have mostly failed to witness first hand.

MAGA

[–]cocaine_muslimAZ 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I didn't say they were well informed. I said their minds were made up.

[–]i_saw_a_moosePA 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not even saying you're wrong at all. But my mind was changed. Recently even. And it feels good.

[–]RobotJINI 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had made up my mind, then the Donalds high energy changed it.

[–]giulez845NY 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bingo.

[–]BernieSanders4caliphPA 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trumps campaign is different from others. For starters, we don't have a donation pool. When we get closer to voting dates we get more serious. We don't promote phone pestering either. I think the content is fine.

[–]FUCK_REDDITS_ADMINSKY 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

we have the sidebar for info

this sub is for keks, as nothing can stop trump anyway, least of all the behavior of an obscure subreddit

look at how well put together the bernie sub is, and look at his prospects for winning his primary

[–]egoloquitur[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

You could make the argument that Sanders would have done even worse had it not been for his massive social media campaign.

I still submit that this sub can be a source for good for our candidate. It's a mistake to say that online advocacy doesn't matter. It isn't dispositive, but it can help...

[–]NotNolanUSA 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are growing exponentially.

We are doing just fine.

[–]FUCK_REDDITS_ADMINSKY 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

i agree with you, bernie wouldnt have had anywhere close to the amount of success if not for his social media

but trump is a different kind of candidate. the bernie/shillary fight is a close one. nobody comes close to trump. i dont think shillary will be able to come close to him when the general election comes. i could be wrong, and if i am i am open to a change of strategy, but for now it seems unlikely

[–]GreenSaver19MI 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I've noticed is and am trying to edge towards less memey posts. We need to post more quality content if we truly want to get dedicated supporters who will stick with us until the end. Memes and jokes are fine, and are often hilarious, but I feel like we need to post more serious stuff, too.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's something serious.

Bernie and Hilfag want to both bring in Syrian refugees and tighten gun laws. As we can see in Europe, Syrians rape and kill everyone. Therefore, removing our defense and bringing them here equals more rape and death for everyone.

The right does the same shit as the left but to a lesser degree. Rubio wants to legalize 25 million people, many of whom are proven to rape and kill.

Even if you agree with every policy of a different candidate and you hate Trump, if you vote against Trump, you are pro-rape and pro-murder. You're a traitor. End of story. I don't see the point of discussing past that. These cucks can't be reasoned with.

[–]chunkynuggetsNY 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm on the fence. I enjoy the memes. Important stuff usually makes it to the top and the business end is on the sidebar. If someone wants to have a serious discussion then they can make a self post. Perhaps some better post flair & filtering options would be beneficial for those who prefer to have a meme-free view. The humor of this sub is one of our main attractions.

[–]fwcNJ49VR29NUPxFfbK4OR 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sanders will be out of the race in 2 weeks. Who gives a fuck what they do over there. They losing because they ain't us.

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing wrong with the sub. I do wish the downvoting asshats would be banned.

[–]ericredbikeTX 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, that the front page of the sub does seem a little immature, but who cares we are having fun. There is always relevant news articles in the new queue. Perhaps the side bar should mention checking the new queue as well? IMO most of the news stories, while ineresting, that don't make it to the front page, there isn't much to discuss.

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

We shill dank memes and shitpost. Infos on the sidebar. This sub should be fun and right now it fun. Let's keep it that way.

[–]UdeadpoolmemeTN 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Go back to /r/sandersforpresident. Don Jons entire campaign is focused on meme magic. It's gotten us where we are today. Maybe your energy is too low for this sub

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This. I didn't realize he was a BerniePerson. Typical cultural marxist behavior trying to change another group's culture to better fit their narrative. We lose our identity in the process if we listen to their advice!

[–]cocaine_muslimAZ 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

On another note, I think this subreddit already paints Trump supporters in a very positive light -- most of the people in this community are funny and witty and just want to have a good time and share a few laughs with like minded people. I'm biased, but I think to a neutral party that must look way better than an entire page of posts begging for money.

[–]FLUXLINKCA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

-- most of the people in this community are funny and witty and just want to have a good time and share a few laughs with like minded people.

Yes. I feel it to...

THE HIGH ENERGY

[–]Alpha-as-fuck 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Many of us know there's no point in trying here on reddit.

High energy dank memes work. Also not donating is best.

Why bother typing out well presented arguments to the many idiots here on reddit who won't bother to listen to what is said anyway? All bernie bots know how to do is point, and yell out 'racist', and ask for handouts.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This. The information is out there. The ones that want to be spoonfed are looking for attention and upvotes. Fuck them. Let the dank memes speak for themselves. Let it be a personal encounter with the truth and not us skullfucking the truth into their throats.

[–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh and btw, this post is exactly why we hate the regressive left. You always want to change a culture so you don't have to expose yourself to a different perspective in the process. Learn some self awareness. Stop trying to change people's culture so it better fits your tastes. Jesus...

[–]BoiseNTheHood 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/SandersForPresident is a joyless hugbox. There is no quality content over there, just circlejerking, conspiracy theorizing, and bragging about throwing money at a failing campaign. The Bernie people are the last group of supporters we should be emulating. They are actively driving people away from Bernie's campaign with their relentless spamming and intolerance of dissent.

I've seen several posts from non-Trump supporters recently who admit they like our sub because of its sense of humor - the very thing you think we should crack down on in order to emulate a bunch of neckbeards who are turning people off in droves.

This sub is like Trump himself in a way: funny, slightly absurd, but capable of getting serious when the situation calls for it. The best way to promote Trump is to keep doing what we're doing.

[–]highenergysector 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why bother with low energy #SJWFREEDOM-Reddit

Focus on MAGA

[–]shoppy2012MI 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree! For the most part. I would love to see more articles just giving us more solidification in our trusting of the golden haired stallion. I go to this subreddit when I'm looking for a defense of trump all the time, so quality information would be super helpful.

However, I think part of the purpose of the memes, and general silliness, is to separate ourselves from the berniebots and have fun.

It's all about what actually gets upvoted and how the mods handle it I guess. Hard not to upvote everything because it just so fun!

[–]cogen4days 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm an energy enthusiast, and I also support trump and this subreddit and consider myself a serious person (professional engineer).
There's a certain part about trump that is not serious/funny/ridiculous - and I think we all like it. I take him seriously because I can see thru fun part. I also think that may be the reason this page is so popular. I feel like I receive a healthy mixture of funny trump stuff and serious trump stuff.

[–]FLUXLINKCA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are Trump supporters. We can be serious when we need to. But right now, we're having fun. DJT is the man. We don't have to pretend like our little subreddit is going to make a huge difference – like SJWs or berners or whatever. DJT's working for us. Let us glorify our nimble god emperor in peace.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

L O W E N E R G Y G E T O U T

[–]TheFirstTrumpvirate 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The sanders subreddit is the biggest pile of shit on the internet why do you want to emulate them?

I like to come here to blow off a bit of steam after a long day of winning so much and being so productive that I'm sick of it. I don't need to come here to organize phonebanks and beg for donations and post a trillion links to a trillion lame ass clickbait articles about how great Trump is.

[–]TrashPixie_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of the things that attracted me here was the fact that this sub Reddit was getting trolled brigades etc and you guys just trolled them back it was brilliant if you go to that other subteddit people get sooooooo butt hurt over anything it makes me Really happy to see

[–]___TRUMP2016___MD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This isnt the problem the people who use this sub as their personal blog eith their 5 self posts a day is what is getting annoying as fuck.

"Hey guys I'm voting Trump"

That doesn't need it's own thread. We have way too many self posts.

[–]Bardamu32AUS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Respectfully disagree. This sub is a refreshing change from the super cereal Bernie subs. Just look at them, they're so humourless and worthy. Spend all day bombarding the poor electorate with nuisance phone calls? No thanks. There's still plenty of news stories here, but it's all very light in tone and I think the message gets across more effectively that way.

[–]fatebound 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To think you don't even know what makes this sub fundamentally great and high energy. If you keep posting low energy bernie-like guac then your coats gonna have to confiscated