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[–]ShadowGuardian_ 69ポイント70ポイント  (7子コメント)

Oh the memories. The original Paper Mario was the first game I ever beat 100%. It has a very special place in my heart.

[–]rallynorth 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've been chasing the dragon ever since that game. Nothing will match how fun that was.

[–]SilverbulletRS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should try Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars if you haven't already. It is the precursor to the Paper Mario series and is a masterpiece.

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      [–]last_rule 1515ポイント1516ポイント  (190子コメント)

      No sure what (and their games) is supposed to mean but Nintendo's first party titles have been remarkable over the last couple of years.

      [–]Spyro78 438ポイント439ポイント  (103子コメント)

      Well, not exactly with regards to Paper Mario though...

      [–]HiOnFructose 283ポイント284ポイント  (96子コメント)

      There's been one bad Paper Mario game out of a total of four. The fifth game has not been released yet. Hold your judgement until it does.

      [–]Imagine_Baggins 321ポイント322ポイント  (33子コメント)

      From the various teaser trailers and E3 footage, Color Splash appears to be exactly what everyone expected and dreaded: Sticker Star 2. It's clear Nintendo no longer considers Paper Mario an RPG (hell, it's advertised as Action Adventure), which is exactly what people loved about the first two/three games. Just because we haven't played the full game doesn't mean we can't make reasonable judgments about what is obviously not what (most) Paper Mario fans want (as confirmed by trailer, gameplay footage, and developer interview).

      [–]Darshan80 36ポイント37ポイント  (27子コメント)

      The fact Paper Mario has a dedicated fan following is enough to make me happy. Loved the early games but stopped at the gamecube.

      [–]Emilbjorn 64ポイント65ポイント  (16子コメント)

      Mate, Thousand Year Door is the best one!

      [–]DestroyerOfPussy69 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Super Paper Mario also had a crazy good story and characters.

      [–]Incidion 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

      You know, I own thousand year door but just never got into it like I did the original. Then I went back and enjoyed super paper mario quite a bit. Fuck me, I guess.

      I keep meaning to go dust off my gamecube and give thousand year door another shot, but it's the one I never seem to make it far in.

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        [–]tsleb 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Loved the early games but stopped at the gamecube.

        So...just the first game you mean?

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            [–]noob622 113ポイント114ポイント  (38子コメント)

            Am I the only one who hated Super Paper Mario? The story was great but I could not get behind the new gameplay mechanics. I like the idea behind the perspective shift, but the realtime combat removed a lot of the RPG elements that I liked (badge equipping, stat boosting, etc). It just felt really off. TTYD is still the best; if only they used that as a baseline.

            [–]fonse 82ポイント83ポイント  (10子コメント)

            It wasn't as fun as the previous ones, but I still enjoyed it.

            I'll take a game with half the essence of Super Paper Mario over Sticker Star 2 any day.

            [–]noob622 18ポイント19ポイント  (9子コメント)

            I've never played Sticker Star, but from what I gather it was a step down from Super Paper Mario, despite going back to the turn-based combat, correct?

            [–]Raquefel 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Pretty much. The turn-based combat was ruined by it not actually being an RPG (no EXP) and relying on a broken Sticker system. Worse, they basically got rid of any and all new characters (which made up like 90% of the charm of the series and were the reason SPM was still great) except for Kersti, and replaced everything with fucking TOADS. The SAME red toad over and over and over again. Strip about 99% of the interesting story and slap on Bowser as the main villain and you've got Sticker Star.

            [–]IronMaskx 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

            There was no leveling system. Using stickers on combat was a waste. You're better off avoiding all combat that you can, because it's not beneficial in any way to fight.

            [–]thesteam 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

            It's like you combined new super mario bros. with paper mario, taking the worst aspects of each.

            From Paper mario you take the turn based combat system (which many might prefer, but it doesn't have the lasting appeal for me personally)

            And from New super mario bros. it takes the complete absence of comic relief, and entertaining story.

            [–]RippyZ 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

            The problem was that it took the turn based combat and then punished you for actually getting into fights. Fighting in sticker star just lost you resources for no gain. Of course it was clear that they didnt give a shit when they made sticker star the whole game is bad. Fighting bosses was supposed to be a puzzle but in reality it was go through your stickers anc hope its the right o e for this boss or hope you even ran into the right sticker before the boss.

            [–]MAXSR388 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Worst thing there was just no strategy in battles. You couldn't even target a particular enemy. You would always hit the one on the front. At that point I just spammed that green jump sticker that allows for multiple jumps whilst I hit the action commando

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                [–]aroymart 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                As long as there are still stickers instead of a level up combat based game, i will judge

                [–]FattyWnnaCookie 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                The original and thousand year door are and will always be the only two true paper mario games in my book.

                [–]Willasrulz10 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I take that back, I haven't actually played SPM but apparently it's pretty good. But TTYD will always be one of my favourite games ever.

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                  [–]Bamith 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  The South Park games seem to be better Paper Mario games currently :T

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                    [–]lycratard 58ポイント59ポイント  (25子コメント)

                    Please tell that to /r/metroid with a straight face.

                    [–]Mageziya 28ポイント29ポイント  (9子コメント)

                    Alas, our poor Metroid.

                    From what I understand, the series isn't doing well in part because the original co-creator, who's in charge now for Metroid games, apparently never really liked the Metroid Prime games, despite how well they were received.

                    [–]ZobmieRules 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    Yeah, Sakamoto is still salty about the Prime series.

                    [–]bassshred 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Is this the guy we can thank for Other M?

                    [–]ZobmieRules 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Bingo. I know that it's been out for quite a long time now (had it truly been a decade since Prime 3?), but for anyone who still wants catharsis in the wake of Other M, here's a great compilation of videos:

                    Metroid Other M (why it SUCKS) Mega Review (The Ultimate In-depth Breakdown) and 3D Metroid Dissection (Why Other M Failed Where Prime Didn't) by TheGamingBritShow.

                    Metroid Other M Review by Darklordjadow1.

                    Metroid Other M (Zero Punctuation)

                    /rant - Metroid: Other M Counterpoint by Eclipse Studios.

                    Super Best Friends Watch - Metroid Other M The Movie

                    Edit: Almost forgot about a FANTASTIC in-depth review and analysis from TVTropes. Mother, May I See Metroid Other M?

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                        [–]Noodle-Works 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        oh man... that's a depressing subreddit...

                        [–]Raquefel 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        "You don't actually want a proper Metroid game. You think you do, but you don't."

                        [–]lycratard 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I just want 90's Nintendo back.

                        They cared about pushing cutting edge technology and surpassing other consoles in horsepower.

                        They still made games where you had to try, not this hand holding bullshit with a complete lack of challenge.

                        They made good, interesting games. I just want those days back instead of reliving them on emulators.

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                          [–]PunishingCrab 44ポイント45ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          Paper Mario games are a shell of what they used to be. Sticker Star wasn't too great.

                          [–]jigglesthefett 38ポイント39ポイント  (32子コメント)

                          I agree, I wonder if this is someone who believes Nintendo gave enough shit about Zoe Quinn to insult her in the new paper Mario rather than it being a joke about Watergate (which makes about 1000% more sense)

                          [–]koolaidkirby 93ポイント94ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          The idea that nintendo would make a joke about obscure internet drama instead of world famous news is ridiculous.

                          [–]Imagine_Baggins 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I believe this is more just a shot at Color Splash itself. Dear fans of the first two/three games are not happy with the fact that Nintendo transformed a deep yet quirky RPG series into a shallower Action Adventure experience that ignores almost everything that gave the original games charm. Fans of the series have been begging for a return to form after the last poor installment, but Nintendo seems oblivious.

                          [–]Predditor_drone 9ポイント10ポイント  (26子コメント)

                          Context please.

                          [–]jigglesthefett 48ポイント49ポイント  (25子コメント)

                          http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/shufflegate

                          I really... REALLY wish I was joking about this.

                          [–]Predditor_drone 62ポイント63ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          Holy shit, that is some weapons-grade narcissism. Thanks for providing context.

                          Know the saying "when all you have is a hammer, all you see are nails"?

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                                [–]Dragmire800 3307ポイント3308ポイント  (746子コメント)

                                Except Nintendo still constantly releases High-quality games, and doesn't do a terrible job at advertising them

                                [–]HussyDude14[🍰] 1100ポイント1101ポイント  (443子コメント)

                                To be honest, as a huge Nintendo fan, I think Paper Mario and Mario Party aren't headed in the right directions at all. The Gamecube versions of both series were the highest points in their lives. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door was a legendary game that will never die; it was hilarious and fun to play, the battle system was actually perfected and done the RIGHT way, and the story was just beautifully done. Hilarious and fun for everyone. I miss actually playing Mario Party on boards where you can go anywhere you want. I mean, it's a party; I want to play with friends and do what I want on a board and go anywhere, or whatever... even if it breaks friendships. That being said, though, Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, XENOBLADE!!!, Monster Hunters (even if it's owned by Capcom), and just a bunch of the games in general are pure perfection. I honestly feel sad the Wii U's lifespan is cut short to make way for the NX. I'll probably get around to buying it not too long after it comes out, hopefully, but I definitely think the Wii U's shaping up to be like the GameCube. It's definitely misunderstood right now, but it's a really good system with a nicely made library of quality games.

                                EDIT: My first Reddit Gold! I never thought this day would come... and I don't feel any different. Is there like something I buy with this gold or do I just wear this as a badge or...? Can someone tell me what I do with it? Nonetheless, I have prepared a speech: Thank you for the Gold, Reddit. I feel like Leonardo, now, except like him, I have also ascended to- ah, forget it. Thanks so much for the Gold! And looking at the sudden raise in my points, I think I just went from a mostly-lurking redditor with a few nice points to gold and a bunch of points. Many thanks, everyone. I promise I won't let it go to my head and continue to post sincere and honest comments while respecting everyone else, as well. Thanks a lot, guys.

                                [–]Nezn27 268ポイント269ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                Donkey Kong Country Tropic Freeze was also a blast

                                [–]Timonaut 246ポイント247ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                Splatoon was amazing.

                                [–]Totikki 113ポイント114ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                Bayonetta 2 (& 1), best hack and slash series ever

                                [–]willfordbrimly 43ポイント44ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                That was made by Platinum Games, not Nintendo.

                                [–]XxWickedStormxX 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Still is in my opinion.

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                                    [–]Sk8rboisk8party 150ポイント151ポイント  (151子コメント)

                                    I honestly feel sad the Wii U's lifespan is cut short to make way for the NX.

                                    The Wii U's lifespan hasn't been cut short, really. By the time the NX comes out, the Wii U will have had a 5-year run. That's the same amount of time it took the Wii to come out after the Gamecube.

                                    [–]KratosC 110ポイント111ポイント  (53子コメント)

                                    No waaaaaay! Only 5 years? It feels like a lifetime passed between the GC and the Wii

                                    [–]Crimson-Knight 49ポイント50ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                    While you're in school 5 years is a lifetime. It's the time it takes a new 8th grader to graduate high school, which feels infinitely far away to the 8th grader.

                                    [–]chewrocka 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                    yup, once you grow up there's nothing new to experience anymore. we're all just killing time until the ol' dirt nap.

                                    [–]Sk8rboisk8party 32ポイント33ポイント  (36子コメント)

                                    Yeah, seriously. So many great games filled up those years.

                                    [–]guyliam 43ポイント44ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                    And that's really the big difference between the Wii U and the GC, not enough great games in it's lifespan

                                    [–]404IdentityNotFound 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Only 5 years

                                    5 years for a console generation is completely normal. The XBOX360, PS3 and Wii era was abnormal long

                                    [–]Tehjaliz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Maybe you were younger? I mean, to me, gamecube years were all school years. Wii years were university years. But both Wii U and NX years will just be "job years".

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                                      [–]Everyones_Grudge 25ポイント26ポイント  (28子コメント)

                                      People compare it to Sony and Microsoft with their releases. I think if they released quality consoles less frequently, everyone would be happier. It kind of seems like Nintendo is trying to play catch up with other two, even if they don't feel that way.

                                      [–]insanechipmunk 34ポイント35ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                      I get what you are saying, but Nintendo is not playing catch up. They do their own thing at their own pace. Nintendo has been around a lot longer than Sony or Microsoft. It's a company that is over 100 years old and has a wallet that would make most developing countries salivate.

                                      [–]rezzo7 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      there was no greater release than Super Mario 3 - it was first shown in the movie the Wizard and the game was the ultimate!

                                      [–]minnick27 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      "Get the warp whistle!"

                                      Bitch, you literally found out about this game 5 minutes ago, how do you know there's a warp whistle?

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                                            [–]HussyDude14[🍰] 9ポイント10ポイント  (64子コメント)

                                            Yeah, but still. There basically aren't going to be any more Wii U games. Also, even though the Wii's lifespan was about 6 years or whatever, it felt a lot longer for some reason, not to mention the Wii U came out about a year earlier than the Xbox One and PS4, so the NX will enter really early in the console race. It'd be kind of odd to call it a next gen console, too, and I'm pretty sure it'll be considered current gen, which might throw some things out of balance for Nintendo.

                                            [–]rabbyburns 38ポイント39ポイント  (50子コメント)

                                            It hasn't really felt like Nintendo was in the "current" gen since the gamecube. Everything after has been behind the times (visually). Not to say that's a bad thing - Nintendo has always had my favorite experiences.

                                            [–]Ilandar 36ポイント37ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                            They're in their own gen: Nintengen.

                                            [–]K3NN3Y 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Honestly, I'm fine with that. I play Nintendo games because they're fun and different from what Sony/Microsoft is doing. I own a PC, but if I were to buy a console, Nintendo is the way I'd go. Excluding exclusives, consoles don't offer anything you can't do better on a PC. Nintendo's hardware and games are usually quirky and different from the rest.

                                            [–]HussyDude14[🍰] 39ポイント40ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                            I admit, Playstation and Xbox are known for their rivalry and attempts at getting better graphics, framerates, and other stuff that people consider "hardcore," which isn't bad (and there're the occasional PC fans laughing at both of them), but either way, I just see the same thing. Sure, framerate is important, but a lot of the time, I don't really see much of a difference if I have 30 or 60 frames, and graphics are good to the point where I don't even notice if one console is significantly better than the other (compared to Xbox and Playstation). Their rivalry and graphics and FPS is a good thing for them, but Nintendo is amazing because it has long-running games and franchises that can relate to everybody. If Nintendo stopped making games, I wonder how many parents wouldn't buy their kids games, because honestly, there aren't many other companies making games for everyone, and I guess some kids may not get engaged in games (at least until they're a bit older). I honestly love Nintendo, because it's more cartoony, and cartoony graphics don't really age as much. I prefer gameplay over graphics, honestly, and as long as there's a good story, decent gameplay mechanics, nice controls, etc., I'll probably be hooked. It's probably why people like Mario or Pokemon and stuff. The core gameplay doesn't necessarily change, but the new worlds, stages, mechanics and such are wonderful to have.

                                            [–]snowe2010 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            I liked your comment and agree wholeheartedly. Also it's your cake day! Happy Cake Day!

                                            [–]JohnnyHendo 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            I would like to point a peculiarity with the parents buying games for their kids. Many parents nowadays seem to let their kids play whatever. Whether it is E or M. The reason for this would be that their kids want these games and the reason they want these games is because kids think teenagers are cool and they want to do stuff that they do like play more violent, mature games. This leads to kids playing games that they probably shouldn't be playing, teens playing games the same games, and it seems to me that a growing number of adults are beginning to play games that for Everyone while also playing T and M rated games. A growing number of young kids don't want to play E games because they will get made fun of by others and they won't be "cool". This is kinda weird as games were originally mainly marketed to kids and teens, but now, the "true" game audience are adults. The adults are allowed to play any of the games that come out and are more likely to play a large variety of games that even kids and teens might not play because they aren't considered cool.

                                            This might be more of a thing in the US so I'm not sure about the rest of the world. Its honestly quite interesting though.

                                            [–]HussyDude14[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            These are good points, and I guess it's mostly based on where you are, how old you really are, and the culture there. Sure, a lot of older siblings or parents might buy more mature games for younger children, but I can say that all kids might have a start from somewhere. I think it's safe to say at least a bunch of kids around the world start with Nintendo at least, and whether they grow out of it or not isn't what I tried to point out, it's that Nintendo at least gets them into gaming, casually, and then they might move on to Playstation or Xbox. To be honest, I'm actually wondering about the rest of the world, too. There're definitely alot of kids playing more mature games, now. I've seen college and high schoolers love Nintendo like fanboys on reddit, but where I am, I mostly only hear about Xbox and Playstation in my high school (given we do have a video game club with mostly nintendo fans, smash tournaments, and stuff, but still).

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                                              [–]ChemicalExperiment 4ポイント5ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                              From what devs have been saying, the NX is going to be very powerful, not on Xbox1S levels, but it'll at least be able to compete with the Xbox1 and PS4 power wise.

                                              [–]LaXandro 39ポイント40ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                              So, not powerful at all by modern standards.

                                              [–]ChemicalExperiment 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Well, it's...well....yeah

                                              [–]x755x 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Right, but when it comes to consoles, the only thing really worth looking at is how it compares to other consoles; obviously it's not as powerful as a PC. That's a forgone conclusion.

                                              [–]Dain42 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              It'll be plenty powerful to provide high quality experiences.

                                              That's one of the things modern games have demonstrated in spades: high fidelity and extreme graphical performance are not the end-all be-all. Ultra-realism isn't the only measure of excellence.

                                              There are so many games with wonderful stories, enjoyable gameplay, and with unique style and stylization. And many of them don't require the latest and greatest hardware to play them.

                                              As graphics performance has gotten better and better, the differences between successive generations have gotten less noticeable and less pronounced. Look, for example, the the differences between Half-Life and Portal. Then look at the differences between Portal and a current game. Yes. They're there, of course. But the degree of difference isn't the same.

                                              All this, taken together, I think, makes the raw power of a system significantly less important than the developers, the designers, and the artistry behind the games for a system.

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                                                [–]coredumperror 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                not on Xbox1S levels, but it'll at least be able to compete with the Xbox1

                                                Um, the 1S is the exact same hardware as the Xbone, just in a smaller, cheaper box. Did you mean Project Scorpio levels?

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                                                    [–]ArgentFox 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                    The new zelda game is being released on wii u

                                                    [–]Sk8rboisk8party 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                    That's true, it is early relative to the competition. But I feel like the PS4 Neo and the new XBO model might also upset the balance a bit and put everyone a little closer to being on the same, awkward foot.

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                                                        [–]theheartlesshero 11ポイント12ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                        Yeah, the levels in Mario party have really gone downhill. I know they wanna throw in new stuff but they should throw in classic boards and shit. I use to buy every single Mario party game but now it's just Meh.

                                                        [–]PersimBerry 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival is horrible too. It's like they managed to suck everything good from Mario Party like minigames and board variety and only keep the crap annoying random shit. Plus they added more bad stuff like having to use an Amiibo to roll a die every time and locking half the game behind needing more Amiibo cards.

                                                        Happy Home Designer is also terrible. Only slightly deeper than decorating your secret base in Pokemon Ruby. There's zero skill or challenge, you just place items and it doesn't even matter what you do. You can give them empty houses and they love it.

                                                        Two absolutely horrible Nintendo games. I hope it isn't a sign of future games.

                                                        [–]HussyDude14[🍰] 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                        I know! Every year there used to be a Mario Party game that I begged to get for my birthday, and what do you know? The perfect PARTY game for a PARTY for everyone to play! Heck, Mario Party 7 was amazing for allowing 8 player gameplay (given you shared a controller, but hey, more people, more fun). The friendships broken, the hilarious laughs of victory, all that stuff made it lively. I miss the old boards.

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                                                          [–]Cryovex2000 37ポイント38ポイント  (66子コメント)

                                                          Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.

                                                          Why have I never heard of this game?

                                                          [–]HussyDude14[🍰] 100ポイント101ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                          Oh, my goodness. Go get it on Virtual Console or whatever and play it. If you played the N64 version (keep in mind, I never played that until years later on VC, and even I liked The Thousand Year Door without playing the first; there's basically no need to play any of these games in any order or whatever), you'll love The Thousand Year Door. I enjoyed the turn-based system that it was mostly known for, and the fact that they added an audience kind of made it feel more lively. I mean, fighting with people watching you?? It almost does feel like a real story being told or an actual play, which is fitting for the style, but I loved how it made you feel like a hero. The moves, partners, and actual stories for each chapter was full of goofiness, funny lines, and pretty good puzzles, not to mention all the interesting "themes" seen. I mean, unlike the older Paper Mario, this game made a jump to actual paper by allowing Mario to actually turn into a paper airplane, boat, rolling piece of paper, etc., and it was just so much fun to do that a bunch. Go play it if you want, you won't regret it. Each chapter has new partners to offer, loveable villains to fight, fitting characters, and a bunch of interesting stories told in each one. In one chapter, you'd be in a happy little town in the meadows with a castle in the background with a dragon residing within it, while in another chapter, you'll be looking for an old pirate's treasure. It's freaking fantastic dude, you'll love it. Go ahead and enjoy it whenever you can.

                                                          [–]Cryovex2000 27ポイント28ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                          Alright I'll look in to it. For the record, I immediately got 5 replies in about 2 minutes XD

                                                          [–]SonOftheBoxcartist 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                          That's because it's legitimately an awesome game. I never played the original, but thousand year door was fantastic.

                                                          [–]Scyntax 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          The original was amazing as well. It was definitely in my top 3 favorite n64 games.

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                                                              [–]penguintheft 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              Sadly it's not available on the virtual console (for Wii U or 3DS)

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                                                                [–]RandomAccessMummery 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Get ready to RAWK!!

                                                                [–]mtaleph 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Dude. IDC if you have a thousand people saying this already.* Get that game asap. The train level is among the best of what Nintendo has ever made. Humor that doesn't resort to putting others down. Just plain silly awesomeness.

                                                                *It's your own damn fault :P

                                                                [–]leadhound 29ポイント30ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                What... Holy shit dude it's considered one of the best RPGs ever made. Get on it!

                                                                [–]cuatrodemayo 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                Important question: Do partners in your party have actual health and take damage without having to miss a turn? I was not a fan of that in Paper Mario for the 64.

                                                                [–]Invader_Zirk 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Yeah partners have their own HP that gets buffed as you upgrade them. I think there's also badges and stuff that can buff partner stats like Mario's. They're WAY deeper than the 64 partners.

                                                                [–]CutterSlicar 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Yes, partners have health and each of them have their unique traits. For example, the koopa has +1 to defense but if an enemy goomba jumps on him, he falls on his back and loses a turn. So you have to think what partner suits each battle

                                                                [–]Dr_Yay 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                yep

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                                                                    [–]PsychoWorld 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                    It's amazing. Go play it.

                                                                    [–]Bassdistortion 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                    A higher power knew that you would enjoy it now more than ever. Go get it!

                                                                    [–]KOWguy 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                    I know people are telling you to play it, but man... That game is literally my favorite game of all time. It's an absolute blast that destroys the norm of Mario games (happy level, desert, beach, snowy place, dungeon, repeat) the areas area all unique and super, SUPER fun.

                                                                    If you have the time, it's absolutely worth a playthrough.

                                                                    [–]kutjepiemel 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Yes, as far as Nintendo games I love Metroid and think Zelda is absolutely amazing, but TTYD is very much my favourite game ever.

                                                                    [–]Vladyr 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                    I just finished my replay of Paper Mario TTYD still 10/10 definitely should try it!

                                                                    [–]Esternocleido 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                    The Thousand Year Door

                                                                    If you hava a PC the game works perfectly with dolphin and it has HD retexture project, so you can play it perfectly at 1080p and 60fps.

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                                                                      [–]Haz_Matt 5ポイント6ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                      I don't think Gamecube was ever misunderstood. It was good since it released.

                                                                      [–]CutterSlicar 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                      The competition was tough when it was released. You had the PS2 which had strong console exclusives AND could be used as a DVD player, whereas you had the xbox which you had to get if you wanted to play Halo. It was a tough tie between the three makers

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                                                                        [–]not-sure-if-serious 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                        Mario rpg 7 stars was the best, never really got into paper mario.

                                                                        [–]bitwize 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                        The NX is coming in 2017, which is a good 5 years after the Wii U debut. For everyone except Sega, 5 years give or take is one console generation.

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                                                                          [–]Snipen543 171ポイント172ポイント  (77子コメント)

                                                                          Right? I have never played a Nintendo game that wasn't of the highest quality. Granted there have been games I don't care for, but every single one of them has been superb in terms of gameplay, quality, lack of bugs, and (most of the time) replay value.

                                                                          [–]WassaRuiner 79ポイント80ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                          This hits it on the head.

                                                                          Yea the games may not appeal to me. Doesn't mean they aren't made well.

                                                                          [–]cobaltblues77 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                          Do you mean games developed directly by Nintendo It any game released for the Nintendo platform ?

                                                                          [–]Ilandar 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          Clearly the former. There was some absolute trash released for the Wii and DS.

                                                                          [–]SavvySillybug 19ポイント20ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                                                          lack of bugs

                                                                          Not sure if Pokémon Red/Blue counts...

                                                                          [–]Snipen543 13ポイント14ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                          That's a valid point. I guess there always is an exception to every rule

                                                                          [–]SavvySillybug 59ポイント60ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                          I mean, if you weren't looking for bugs, you wouldn't really find any. You had to try to break it.

                                                                          But when you did try, oh boy, did it break gloriously. But playability? Yeah, I never had a moment when I thought, huh, this is unexpected, this is a bug. It's always "well if you hit START at the right frame" or "well if you do this thing and fly here and move up and down this single block column" or "if you fly out of safari zone before the time is over for some insane reason" or something like that. It's not "I progressed normally but this fight won't start/end" or "this puzzle can't be completed and I locked myself in".

                                                                          Only actual game breaking bug I can think of in a Nintendo game is that the first Legend of Zelda had cross-dungeon keys, and you could manage to open just the wrong door to lose your key and not gain one in return, keeping you from progressing. Later games fixed this by making keys lock to their dungeons and actually thinking dungeons through completely.

                                                                          [–]peasant_ascending 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                          well hm, actually, in pokemon red/blue, money is finite. If you happened to spend all your money on ultraballs, revives, potions, and vitamins especially, and have no money, you lock yourself out of the safari zone and can't get strength, which you need. So while it's hard, it doesn't require frame-perfect glitching. just normal gameplay with really really bad money management. I can totally see someone spending all their money on vitamins if they didn't know any better.

                                                                          [–]skivian 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                          glumly raises hand

                                                                          I was but a wee lad, and terrible at the game. had to start over at that point.

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                                                                            [–]k_nasty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            One time I did the safari zone glitch accidentally. But it wasn't remotely game-breaking, it just teleported you back to the exit of the safari zone

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                                                                                [–]skeach101 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Those are bugs I'll let pass because if Pokemon wasn't such a high quality game, there wouldn't be so many ravenous fans that would spend the time to find something that silly.

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                                                                                    [–]bosco9 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                    They still make some of the best games, but you gotta admit the Wii U was a marketing disaster

                                                                                    [–]modhog 81ポイント82ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                                                    Splatoon had a lot of advertising. And a song that pisses me off more than Let it Go.

                                                                                    [–]trainercatlady 59ポイント60ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                    but wait... what comes after being a squid now?

                                                                                    [–]nmotsch789 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    I liked it...

                                                                                    [–]LaXandro 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Only americans got the awful song. Everyone else got this

                                                                                    [–]Book915 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                    How could it piss you off? It's not like it's insanely repetitive and has terrible vocals or anything like that!

                                                                                    [–]Dragmire800 15ポイント16ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                    Hey, Let it Go was a masterpiece

                                                                                    [–]logoster 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Until your 10 and 8 year old sisters sing it 50 billion times, then its just annoying

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                                                                                        [–]smurfsarecommunists 38ポイント39ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                                        Their big hyped games are always good quality, but I don't think that's a good excuse for paper mario, marioparty, animal crossing amiibo festival and other hiccups here and there that left people sorely disappointed

                                                                                        [–]jasonporter 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                        Yeah, it's both a blessing and a curse to be a Nintendo fan. The high points are incredible, Splatoon being the major surprise of the Wii U era. Mario 3D World was also the best co-op platforming experience I've ever had. Breath of the Wild looks like it will be phenomenal. MK8 is the best racing game I've ever played.

                                                                                        But then you have Mario Party which has been reduced to a shadow of it's former self, Paper Mario which stripped away all the elements that made it amazing, Metroid which hasn't had a proper entry in years and is getting a chibi-spinoff, an Amiibo animal crossing thing... for every major victory there's a giant setback.

                                                                                        [–]Ilandar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                        It only seems bad because the majority of third party games on Nintendo platforms these days are shit. We rely on the Ninty developed games to carry the system and when one doesn't deliver, it feels like you lost 10% of the entire game library.

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                                                                                            [–]zingsblade 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                            That's why they have a lot of loyal fans

                                                                                            [–]KeepItRealTV 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            Sega Marketing team: "They should make mario look cooler to appeal more to the children now."

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                                                                                              [–]MarshawnPynch 23ポイント24ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                                                                              Splatoon, Super Mario Maker, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Smash Bros, Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3 are some of the best games of the last 4 years. Under appreciated. And I left games off the list and 3DS games

                                                                                              [–]PasteeyFan420LoL 69ポイント70ポイント  (46子コメント)

                                                                                              They created a console called the Wii U and the New 3DS. Someone on their marketing team has a screw lose. Also the new Star Fox was terrible.

                                                                                              [–]ShnyFlygon 46ポイント47ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                              "I want to buy a New 3DS"

                                                                                              "So do you mean a new 3DS or a New 3DS, or maybe a new New 3DS?"

                                                                                              [–]Raquefel 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                              No, I mean a new New 3DS. Not a used New 3DS, a new New 3DS.

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                                                                                                [–]Isomniac 21ポイント22ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                                                                oh no

                                                                                                a terrible name

                                                                                                maybe they could learn from the imagination movers at xbox for such high quality thought provoking names like

                                                                                                xbox

                                                                                                xbox 360

                                                                                                xbox one

                                                                                                [–]ERIFNOMI 45ポイント46ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                                You cannot deny that those names and their advertisements were terrible. The Wii U console itself got no advertising. The controller did, but the console did not. People weren't even sure at the announcement if the Wii U was a new console or a new controller for the Wii. Parents buying the console for their kids had no fucking clue.

                                                                                                Then there's the 3DS. It's a DS with 3D. Eh, wait, no, it's a new handheld console altogether, but all they did was mention the 3D aspect of it. OK, looks like Nintendo likes to do very similar names for new consoles.

                                                                                                Wait, here comes the New 3DS. This one has a similar name and even claims to be new, so it must be the next console. Well, actually, it's just a 3DS with slightly better hardware. It plays the same software. So, it's kinda the next handheld only it doesn't replace the 3DS.

                                                                                                Yeah, the Xbox line isn't as clear as the PlayStation line, but Microsoft comes out on a stage and screams "this is a new motherfucking console, time to upgrade, send your old one to the landfill because it's been replaced." They don't say "here's the Xbox+, now look how cool this controller is!"

                                                                                                [–]shrubs311 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                At least people know the differences between the consoles.

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                                                                                                    [–]PhxRising29 32ポイント33ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                                                                    Have you played a Paper Mario game recently? Have you seen Metroid Prime: Federation Force? Any recent Mario & Luigi games?

                                                                                                    What OP is saying is that Nintendo isn't what it used to be. Paper Mario especially. Those games are just a hollow shell compared to PM64 or PM: 1000 Year Door

                                                                                                    [–]No_Fun_Sam 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                    Seriously. Paper Mario and TTYD are two of my favorite games of all time, and every iteration of the series after them was just a slow decline away from the bar that they set. It's a simple concept that they just haven't been able to nail down since those two. The Mario and Luigi series is fine but for me a far cry from the quality of the original two Paper Marios.

                                                                                                    [–]PhxRising29 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                    The Mario and Luigi series is not anywhere near the amount of fuck the Paper Mario series has become. But just compare the newest iteration "Paper Jam" to "Superstar Saga" and tell me there is a distinct lack of RPG elements. The new M&L games are way more streamlined.

                                                                                                    [–]ImAPairOfCleats 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                    Superstar Saga

                                                                                                    Oh my god, I loved playing the original one on the GBA, I still would if I hadn't lost the cartridge over the years. :(

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                                                                                                          [–]CanYouDigItDeep 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          Couldn't agree more. Super Mario 3D world was one of the best games I've played in years that didn't have online multiplayer...

                                                                                                          [–]gillababe 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                          Like what? (Honest question)

                                                                                                          [–]ZS_Duster 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                          Tell that to Star Fox fans, and F-Zero fans, and Metroid fans.

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                                                                                                            [–]BlackhawkBolly 528ポイント529ポイント  (77子コメント)

                                                                                                            Why are you implying Nintendo doesn't release great games still?

                                                                                                            [–]Butterlord15 320ポイント321ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                                                                                            Because DAE Nintendo sux lolol?

                                                                                                            [–]LTVOLT 40ポイント41ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                            and couldn't we use the powerglove ad to say "back when Nintendo advertising was wrong/poor"

                                                                                                            [–]ehsteve23 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            They do but their advertising and naming recently has been pretty poor; WiiU and New3DS are confusing for many

                                                                                                            [–]vea_ariam 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            Well they ruined the Paper Mario franchise

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                                                                                                              [–]StewieBanana 244ポイント245ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                                                                                              One: That demo sucked

                                                                                                              Two: you had to pay for the magazine to get it

                                                                                                              [–]Bdoggs87 55ポイント56ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                              One of the greatest Mario RPG games.

                                                                                                              [–]JamesIsAwkward 29ポイント30ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                              Really wish they'd work something with square and do something with Mario RPG.

                                                                                                              [–]DoctorStrife 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                              We all do. The adventures of Geno is nothing but a far off dream...

                                                                                                              [–]dSpect 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                              Am I the only one who thinks Geno's story is self contained in Mario RPG and couldn't really work with a spin-off without coming off as insincere?

                                                                                                              For one he called himself Geno because that was the name of the toy he inhabited and his true name was hard to pronounce. His motive was to assist Mario with collecting the stars Smithy and his gang took from Star Road. Once the stars were restored he returned his physical body to its owner and went back to Star Road.

                                                                                                              Then again the 2 best Paper Mario games both used the same 7 star setup so maybe it wouldn't be so odd for the same thing to pretty much happen again.

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                                                                                                                    [–]toshi04 132ポイント133ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Ahh summer.

                                                                                                                    [–]ImMitchell 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                    It's not any different any other time of year. The nostalgia circlejerk is always here.

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                                                                                                                      [–]W277 71ポイント72ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                                      Only old things are good. /s

                                                                                                                      [–]GrizzledTheGrizzly 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                      I would tape him everywhere.

                                                                                                                      [–]smokinJoeCalculus 66ポイント67ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                                      "EVERYTHING IS WORSE NOW"

                                                                                                                      shaddaaaap.

                                                                                                                      [–]gattaaca 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                      /r/lewronggeneration/

                                                                                                                      [–]Rob4581 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                      Paper Mario 1 & TTYD was the shit.

                                                                                                                      [–]modsareallidiots688 28ポイント29ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                                      Woah, look at Super Mario Maker and tell me Nintendo doesn't make great games.

                                                                                                                      [–]TheTVDB 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                      Their advertising is great now, too. We were at a store getting a bike for my son yesterday and while we waited, a Nintendo rep came over and asked if we wanted to play the new Kirby game. My son said sure, and while he was doing that, the rep loaded me up with a shitload of free stuff. Erasers, posters, pins, and a Mario Maker sticker booklet that my son played with for an hour in the car. If that's not good promotion, I don't know what is.

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                                                                                                                        [–]kebordworyr 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Their games are still great, it's their hardware they need to get sorted.

                                                                                                                        [–]syrupdash 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Now your body can be ready as well.

                                                                                                                        [–]STFUTheFuckUp 39ポイント40ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                                        It's amazing how much entitlement there is in the gaming community sometimes.

                                                                                                                        [–]crowneroyale 24ポイント25ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Nah, their games have been pretty good recently. I mean shit, the frontpage was filled with E3 Zelda gameplay gifs for a couple of days afterwards, so they dont really need to advertise with witty magazine spreads anymore. I'd say they're still getting things right.

                                                                                                                        [–]RawrCat 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                        I blame the fall of magazine readership. Advertisements have to be quick now because there are so many other things to watch and look at. Back in the days of Nintendo Power, each magazine would be read, reread, collected, and compared. The advertisements needed to be good enough for repeat viewings.

                                                                                                                        And yeah, that's some damn good marketing. Silly, clever, tongue-in-cheek, and telling all with one sprite and a couple small images of game levels.

                                                                                                                        [–]IzzyIzumi 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Shit, I'd be lucky if my monthly Nintendo Power had the cover still on by the time I got the next one.

                                                                                                                        [–]donalddihlmann 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        I don't know why, but Nintendo's games never appealed to me. Except for Wii Bowling. I can't stop thinking about Wii Bowling.

                                                                                                                        [–]windwaker910 66ポイント67ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                                        DAE nintendo sucks now???!!!

                                                                                                                        [–]Wampawacka 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Shit comment for shit post.

                                                                                                                        Definitely in /r/gaming.

                                                                                                                        [–]CommodoreHefeweizen 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Next time just look at the bar at the top of the screen and it will tell you what sub you are currently in. :)

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                                                                                                                            [–]d0m1n4t0r 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                            Fuck off with that (and their games) part, you don't have any idea do you.

                                                                                                                            [–]Retic 19ポイント20ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                                                                                                            When did they get their games wrong recently? I mean, while we haven't gotten so many Star Fox, F-Zero, or Metroid titles, since, well, forever, we've gotten amazing titles from Pokémon, Mario, Smash Bros., Zelda, and the list goes on. I think the only thing they've got wrong is their amiibo shortages, and the YouTube claims.

                                                                                                                            [–]untrustableskeptic 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                            This game along with Mario Party and Smash Bros. were a staple of my childhood.

                                                                                                                            [–]Wampawacka 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                            Also DK64, Mario Kart, mischief makers, and GoldenEye.

                                                                                                                            [–]NJS1 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                            Super Mario 64 is still the best Mario game ever. It was so ahead of its time.

                                                                                                                            [–]idealreaddit 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                            As if Nintendo isn't still great

                                                                                                                            [–]liveslowdiesoft 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                            I can name over 100 titles in the past 10 years that are exemplary.

                                                                                                                            Gamers today just hear "Nintendo" and think children games.

                                                                                                                            Targeting potential customers that they could keep for a cpl decades isn't stupid, it's brilliant.

                                                                                                                            People living in the dark.

                                                                                                                            [–]TheLalbadshah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                            I have this ad in one of my old Archie Comics :D

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