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[–]Arizona-Willie 11ポイント12ポイント  (46子コメント)

Vote Green Party ... the Democratic Party has been bought body and soul by Wall Street and the Big Banks.

Voting Democratic this time is the same as voting Republican.

[–]A-VerySexyDisability 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

A better way of doing it is being politically active, and voting in new representatives. Go vote in your local elections, vote in your senatorial elections. Go out and vote. If you want to change the Democratic party, it just takes voting. The reason the Democratic party can be bought is because we have all become complacent.

[–]SunriseSurprise 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

Or do both. Vote for 3rd party president in the general and otherwise vote for the more progressive dems in primaries.

[–]GnomeyGustav 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is the right answer. Moving forward we need to fight against the Democratic party establishment for true left candidates in every primary - federal, state, and local - as hard as Sanders supporters fought during this presidential primary. The real front lines of the battle are the Democratic primaries, and we must be unrelenting in our attacks on paid-for politicians. It is time to organize to the left of the Democratic party and take it over.

[–]NeverDrumpf2016 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

So in purple or red states where we have center-left Democrats, we should primary them with socialists...

Because a socialist is sure to win in Missouri!

[–]GnomeyGustav [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes, in every single primary there should be a true left candidate forcing the establishment Democrat to explain to the people why the economic elite has - for decades - been winning on every economic policy they've lobbied for to the detriment of society as a whole. They should be forced to tell the people who has been funding their campaigns and providing them with post-Congressional lobbyist positions (Chris Dodd comes to mind as an example) and other goodies. Let them try to say with a straight face that the economic elite has provided all these personal benefits to them with no expectation of undue influence in government! The Democratic primaries should let the people see that the Democratic party's absurd notion of "cener-left" is actually conservative to the rest of the Western world, and that their economic insecurity is a consequence of a corrupt political system serving hard-right capitalism.

What has your party's neoliberal realpolitiking actually accomplished for the people? Electing your candidates does absolutely nothing but keep us on course towards becoming a nation where a few do very well and the people are left out in the cold to fend for themselves. Your candidates win, but the people lose. That's why it's time for the base to move left, organize outside of the party, and then take it away from smirking politicos who think they know better than the people.

[–]NeverDrumpf2016 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ok good luck not electing Republicans, who are far more friendly to the 1%.

[–]lossyvibrations 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or more importantly get involved in the party. Become a delegate eventually and vote on the platform yourself.

[–]youareaspastic 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

Voting Democratic this time is the same as voting Republican.

Are you joking or just 16?

[–]NeverDrumpf2016 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Unfortunately there are a lot of people 18 and older who believe this. They have no sense of reality, but they believe it.

[–]luis_correa 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd rather vote on the issues than irrational doom and gloom fears.

[–]Fauxanadu 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

"The president gets to pick supreme court justices" is just fear mongering, but "the evil banks own everyone" isn't.

[–]Unicornkickers 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well one of those things is an unarguable fact and the other is an exaggerated conspiracy perpetrated by people with little understanding of economic policy.

[–]MushroomFry 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

"The president gets to pick supreme court justices" is just fear mongering

It actually is a fact. Dont they teach that in sixth grade civics classes ?

[–]Fauxanadu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but people are having to do some serious gymnastics to explain why a Trump presidency wouldn't be disastrous to Progressives.

[–]ontopofyourmom 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's what we all said in the year 2000. As it turned out, it was bullshit then. And it's still bullshit

[–]Littlepriest -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Democrats have been telling themselves Bush was all Nader's fault for so long that they actually believe it.

It's true, I guess. If you ignore Clinton's complete trashing of his legacy towards the end via fucking a young intern and Al Gore's desperate appeal to the independent candidates with his pro death penalty and "let's ban heavy metal" bullshit then yeah, it was all those darned progressives that fucked everything up.

lol

Edit: The best way to stay a loser is to blame the competition when you fail.

[–]krfactor 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Green Party is full of anti vaccing retards and economic ineptitude. Absolutely not

[–]jbillzz33 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Economic ineptitude? But Jill Stein supported the genius move that was the Brexit, surely she's an economic genius!

[–]0sigma 2ポイント3ポイント  (19子コメント)

This is how Trump gets elected.

[–]SuperHardMode 1ポイント2ポイント  (17子コメント)

This is how Hillary gets elected.

[–]A-VerySexyDisability -1ポイント0ポイント  (16子コメント)

Hillary actually got elected because people are too complacent to vote.

[–]Fauxanadu 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

But more people voted for her than anyone else in history?

[–]A-VerySexyDisability 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

No they didnt.

[–]Fauxanadu 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sorry, you are right, that was back in 2008 when she did. This year she just won the most out of any candidate

[–]Awholez -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

How many did Trump get?

[–]Fauxanadu 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Around 13 mil, iirc. Clinton around 15. Bernie 12

[–]Awholez -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That makes sense. The combination of Cruz, Kasich, and Rubio received more votes than Bernie.

[–]thugok [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No female democratic presidential candidate has ever gotten more votes than Hillary. FACT.

[–]Seyloren -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

Got elected? Did I miss the coronation already?

[–]mbillion 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

are you acting like its not already over

[–]Seyloren -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's not guaranteed to win the election. The democratic nomination, yes. But she's not fucking president yet.

[–]A-VerySexyDisability 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I mean as nominee

[–]radiohedge -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is it July 25th yet? Because she ain't the nominee until the superdelegates vote. Sorry folks, but rules are rules!

[–]A-VerySexyDisability 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh im sorry. Under what reality is she not? The five stages of loss one? Are we in the stage of denial now?

[–]HillarysInflamedEgo 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

mostly the "currently under criminal investigation by the fbi" one.

[–]radiohedge -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't wait to serve up a few million slices of humble pie to Hillary supporters when they finally indict that woman. She is under criminal investigation! In what reality is it a good idea to run a candidate under and ACTUAL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION?!?

[–]Poolooloo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh no, it's coming one way or another. She has too much support from the global elite for them to allow some nouveau riche loud mouth who won't take orders and can't even stick to his 12 pre-approved talking points in front of camera to win.

[–]baroqueworks -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except Trump will never win, he's too much of a buffoon and isolating every minority which he can't win a election without the vote of. He's simply a heel scheming character of a evil politician that we get to see the antics of until Hillary becomes president, laughing all the way to the oval office she had such a easy ride there.

[–]Corn-Tortilla 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey everybody, you should listen to this guy. He's really smart and knows what he's talking about. Vote green!

President Trump thanks you.

[–]cecil15 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So if Hillary = Republican why do Republicans despise her so much? All I've heard is that Trump is an anti-establishment tornado that may destroy the Republican party, yet he still has much more Republican support than Hillary. Assuming both of those things are true (which they are not) why wouldn't the Republican establishment throw all of their support behind Hillary?

[–]CutterJohn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, vote for environmentalists who are so dumb that they're against nuclear power. That'll make things better.

[–]IowaPosted 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People said the same thing in 2000, and look how that turned out

[–]lornstar7 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well voting for a dem today is really a Republican from 15 years ago. A Republican today is unidentifiable

[–]dbonham 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you saying that the Democratic party has shifted right? Republicans 15 years ago supported LGBT rights and decriminalizing marijuana?

[–]lornstar7 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both parties have shifted right. On LGBT rights and Marijuana the people were their and the elected officials followed