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[–]Holdingdownback 60ポイント61ポイント  (58子コメント)

I mean... I love DBZ as much as the next guy but I don't think Saitama would lose to anyone in the DBZ universe. His entire character is a parody of how stupid strong anime characters get.

[–]KuroiKokujin 25ポイント26ポイント  (46子コメント)

Which is why you use feats, which Saitama loses to Yamcha in.

[–]tenshi_for_days 16ポイント17ポイント  (17子コメント)

Exactly,hell if people are going by "He has not lost,only won and we can't gauge his power" Then I can make the same argument for Whis(and Beerus too),we don't how strong he is so that means he can defeat anyone! I love One Punch Man but man did it attract the wrong type of people imo.

[–]RaitoGG 10ポイント11ポイント  (15子コメント)

It's still not comparable. It's as stupid as "Goku vs Superman", the whole fucking point of Saitama is being ridiculously fucking strong. He's a parody character, he's literally a reality-bender. I don't know why DBZ fans have this weird fetish with wanting the chars from their show to be the strongest out of all shows. As if somehow that would make the show better.

[–]DragonNovaHD 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

How is Saitama literally a reality warper? His strongest opponent so far has been Burst Mode Boros, whose most powerful attack was self-described as a surface wiper. That feat puts Boros at less than Saiyan Saga Vegeta's level, who was confident in his ability to completely destroy Earth. And while Saitama was clearly not taking the fight seriously at all, it was pretty much the exact same scenario as Super Saiyan Goku vs Frieza, who's literally hundreds or thousands of times stronger than both Saiyan Saga Vegeta and Boros. Considering that Goku at the present time is literally tens or hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of times stronger than he was in his fight with Frieza, Saitama has literally no chance. People hyping up Saitama point to the fact that the force of his Death punch demolished the mountain behind Genos or that his Super Serious Series Punch vs Boros' final attack cleaved the atmospheric clouds, but they seem to ignore the fact that Goku was fighting Beerus with enough power to destroy the universe back in his Super Saiyan God form, and he now has access to the upgraded Super Saiyan God Blue (SSGSS) as well as the ability to stack Kaioken x10 on top of that. Summarily, Saitama would get absolutely fucked by Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, Whis, Champa, Vados, the Omni King, or hell even most of the Z fighters.

[–]RaitoGG 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

How is he a reality warper? Simple. He's a fucking joke character. Get over yourself.

[–]Etonet -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hercule must be literally the strongest character ever just because he's a "joke character" who always wins fights wow

wtf is a "joke character"? this isn't Looney Tunes

[–]RaitoGG 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

But Hercule's joke is acting strong while being weak. One Punch Man is a parody of traditional shounen and Saitama's joke is to be laughably broken.

[–]A166524 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That's great. Saitama still beats anyone from DB with ONE PUNCH

[–]Quelandoris [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

God OPM has the dumbest fucking fans.

[–]A166524 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm a fan of both I just accept OPM for what it is, why are non-OPM fans so obsessed with proving Saitama can actually lose. The whole point of his character is satirical; he can't lose no matter how mad that makes you lol

[–]Etonet 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

but man did it attract the wrong type of people imo

that's exactly it

the same "Broly's power is maximum" dudes now watch OPM

[–]ahundredpercentbutts 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The entire concept of using feats to compare characters across universes is stupid as hell.

[–]Supertrinko 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Which is why feats aren't a good measure for Saitama.

[–]Black_Scarlet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He doesn't have anyone to perform feats against, unfortunately.

[–]Curious_Tony [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I dont remember yamcha getting kicked to the moon then jumping back to earth effortlessly, which episode was that?

[–]DeepMidWicket 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

can Yamcha vaporize a hill side with a punch? Most dbz poeple can but I dont think Yamcha is that strong... or Crullin for that matter.

[–]Etonet 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

that's not very powerful in the DB universe.. Frieza in his first form could literally destroy a planet larger than Earth with a flick of his finger

manga Saitama hasn't even shown anything on Roshi's level yet smh

[–]Strange_Canadian 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dude even Vegeta blows up a planet before him and Nappa go to earth for the first time

[–]AColdBruceky 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yamcha is the strongest character in the DBZ universe. He just doesn't fight to make the show more interesting.

[–]compiling 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know about that.

Edit: actually, I was misinformed on Boros's power. But Yamcha still has basically no feats.

[–]shlam16 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Saiyan Saga Yamcha has a canon power level 10x that of Roshi.

Roshi has blown up the moon. The moon is 73,476,730,900,000,000,000,000 kg and spans 3,474,000 metres.

[–]thetiedyeguy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't be silly, lord boros's collapsing star roaring cannon attack is powerful enough to either burn the surface of a planet or destroy it compleatly, depending if your a manga or an anime guy. And saitama punches it without trying.

[–]Conosu [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You can't use feats for Saitama. His character is someone who can't lose. Ever.

If the writer put it someone at the level of beerus, one punch man would win. It's how he is wrote.

[–]flying_nihilist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

the winner comes down to which writer can reach the desk faster

[–]DyingWolf -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

I dont think yamcha could do this https://youtu.be/cIihX_-ETB0?t=1m36s

[–]KuroiKokujin 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yamcha is far stronger than Roshi, who could destroy moons, so yes, he could do that. Lol.

[–]tenshi_for_days 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

How bout Ginyu? Sure he's weak but he got's that body transfer technique. Kid Buu, can use the candy beam(I think) and is seemingly impossible to kill by physical means. Those are some to name a few

[–]Imbc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A good analogy for this would be to imagine if SSB goku was put in the very beginning of Dragonball. We would have had no idea how strong he really is, because he roflstomps the RR army, King Picollo, everyone in the tournament and Vegeta with a single punch. If we were only using feats we would be saying that SSB goku isn't that strong because he hasn't fought a "tough opponent" yet.

[–]DragonNovaHD -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

If you're not joking, then I would love to see your reasoning behind that statement. Saitama's strongest opponent so far in the anime, manga, or webcomic has been Burst Mode Boros, whose most powerful attack was self-described as a surface wiper. That feat puts Boros at less than Saiyan Saga Vegeta's level, who was confident in his ability to completely destroy Earth. And while Saitama was clearly not taking the fight seriously at all, it was pretty much the exact same scenario as Super Saiyan Goku vs Frieza, who's literally hundreds or thousands of times stronger than both Saiyan Saga Vegeta and Boros. Considering that Goku at the present time is literally tens or hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of times stronger than he was in his fight with Frieza, Saitama has literally no chance. People hyping up Saitama point to the fact that the force of his Death punch demolished the mountain behind Genos or that his Super Serious Series Punch vs Boros' final attack cleaved the atmospheric clouds, but they seem to ignore the fact that Goku was fighting Beerus with enough power to destroy the universe back in his Super Saiyan God form, and he now has access to the upgraded Super Saiyan God Blue (SSGSS) as well as the ability to stack Kaioken x10 on top of that. Summarily, Saitama would get absolutely fucked by Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, Whis, Champa, Vados, the Omni King, or hell even most of the Z fighters.

[–]Holdingdownback 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Power levels are arbitrary when talking about Saitama though. We could take educated guesses all day but it's up to the writers as to who would win. But the entirety of One Punch Man is about Saitama being completely unphased by his opponent and destroying them with one attack. DBZ on the other hand is always about Goku barely edging out his opponents (or some other Z fighter in some cases.) It honestly just depends on who was writing it.

[–]Etonet 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

But the entirety of One Punch Man is about Saitama being completely unphased by his opponent and destroying them with one attack

no offense, but were you one of the guys agreeing when screwattack said "Superman is written as a character who never loses so therefore he'll always wins no matter who he fights"?

[–]Wallywallsthe2nd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The difference is that that was never actually true. Superman has struggled, been beaten down, lost fights. He is not an invincible character that has never lost and never will. Saitama, on the other hand, is.

[–]Holdingdownback 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was mad that Goku didn't win lol. I'm a DBZ fanboy down to my bones. I just think Saitama is comically OP.

[–]Conosu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The difference is, Superman isn't written as a joke character. Superman is a serious character on who he fights.

One punch man on the other hand, is SUPPOSED to beat everyone without any effort. It's satire on power shonens.

You don't compare an article from the New York Times and The Onion in terms of journalism. It's just wrong.

[–]sadowsentry [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I prefer the system of feats and powerscaling used by battle forums over the no limits fallacy. It provides a more in-depth vs experience. Based on what we've seen so far, Saitama is nowhere near the heavy hitters from DBS. We'll believe his comical feats apply to multiversal characters when we have evidence they apply to multiversal characters.

[–]DragonNovaHD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The big bads of the main arcs have notably not been destroyed in one punch though. Boros was able to tank Saitama's initial punch due to his armor, and later exchanged blows with him and survived even the Consecutive Normal Punches via regeneration. He even survived the Super Serious Series Punch and the explosion it caused on contact with his own blast, although he did die shortly after from his injuries. Garou also survived several hits and Super Serious Series moves such as the Super Serious Table Flip. Notably, he also survived Saitama's Rapid Fire Consecutive Normal Punches, along with the Super Serious Series Headbutt and such. And these guys are absolutely nowhere near Goku's level, Boros for the reasons I listed above and Garou because his best feats and even his own stated hope for beating Saitama lie in his technique and adaptation, rather than strength or durability.

[–]Ragegeta -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's like using plot armor in a fight against two characters. If it mattered what either writer thought, neither would lose.