TotalBiscuit hammers down on G2A and their illegal business practices for 3 straight minutes. Anybody who still doesn't understand G2A is literally supporting theft should watch this entire part of the podcast.

sammyjamez · 3時間前

I feel so damn ashamed of myself for buying from G2A for a while now . And I thought the games that they sell were not stolen

I cannot believe I was so damn stupid!!!

And to be honest, I have not used Pirate Bay for a while now. Yes, I will admit it, I mostly download stuff that do not need any online service or just single player games.

But since most video games need an internet connection nowadays, mostly for the sake that plenty of video games need frequent patches and updates, that makes much more sense (and also, for the sake, that I don't get sued for downloading stuff illegally)

But mostly get my games legally and from steam (and I thought that even G2A was good for me too, until I found out today that I was buying illegal and stolen goods the entire time) and the reason why I do this is because I know how much time and effort and plenty of sweat and tears the developers had to go through to give me a decent and fun game. Even the frequent updates they give us post-release, they take a LOT of time and effort for them.

So, ... for giving me a good and fun and decent games that I enjoy playing, I will be happy to give them my money for putting their effort into their products.

Yes, I will admit it. I bought A LOT of games from G2A because they are cheap.

But no more. I am not willing to buy cheap and ILLEGAL games and game developers do not get what they rightfully deserve and later go bankrupt because people decided to buy illegal and stolen goods (without knowing) and gain the people sell these make money off of them

I know it is a VERY tempting thing to get games for free from piratebay or at a cheaper price from G2a (know that I learned that their goods are stolen, I will NOT buy from them anymore) and at least, the Steam sales are legit and LEGAL, but it would not be fair to get your games for free while the game developers took all their time and effort to make their games for you and they don't get the money they rightfully deserve. So I would be happy to give them my money at full price (or at the legit steam sale) for giving a good game that I will enjoy playing for days, months or maybe even years

(thankfully, these days, it is not even reliable to get games from piratebay ... videogames these days are very large in size and downloading takes forever and if there is an update or a patch, you are going to have to wait a while for it to be released and IF the update is even authentic because god knows how many fakes ones there are on piratebay.)

GISP · 2時間前

The relevant Natural Selection 2 links:
http://www.pcgamer.com/natural-selection-2-developer-deactivates-over-a-thousand-steam-keys-warns-of-shady-resellers/

http://unknownworlds.com/blog/beware-shady-key-resellers-and-discount-steam-keys/

https://www.engadget.com/2013/03/08/natural-selection-2-credit-card-scam-sees-developer-out-30-000/

Later, the whole thing became 42.000$ That UWE had to pay in chargeback fees, for the stolen keys sold on G2A.
And speaking as a developer, ill rather have that you pirate my games, than use sites like G2A. Becouse with piracy, i wont be hit economicaly the same way.
I know several Indies that have gone bankrupt becouse of small sales, and large chargeback fees by resellers using stolen cards.

Mr_tarrasque · 3時間前

He made that poor guy feel so awkward. But he had some amazingly valid points on the shit g2a has been doing. We need to push this shit onto the front page.

SpoonyDinosaur · 3時間前

I listened to his segment on G2A but sorry for my ignorance-- I didn't really catch how they steal their cd keys? (from competitors?)

I've always heard a lot of controversy (and admittedly have quite a few titles in my library from them) but this is the first time I've heard of these practices.

sargonas · 3時間前

I've always loved TB but I love him 1000x more now.

EmirSc · 3時間前

i will admit it i have bought on g2a long ago...

DarkJarris · 2時間前

man, poor Sky. that was so fucking awkward. but TB is right, dont buy stolen goods.

p00rky · 45分前

.....edited nvm

Fen1kz · 20分前

As someone said: "it's like Apple demand % from reselling old iphones cuz they might be stolen".

Prediction: TB + some reddit mods have been paid to attack G2A

UnderThe102 · 18分前

I thought about buying from G2A but I did research and immediately closed out of G2A. I will never use their service.

_Cabbage · 10分前

Just another reddit bandwagon thread, nothing to see. Downvote and move along.

WARBRlNGER · 42分前

What is G2A?

Morisatoo · 22分前

It's very sad seeing all of the people trying to defend G2A, and make it seem like they need to buy games... as if they'll die without it. I assume developers can defend against this by not selling batches of keys, correct?

Ctwenty20 · 1時間前

I'm going to miss totalbiscuit

Death1323 · 2時間前

I'm still not buying this witch hunt against G2A.

A few instances here and there with stolen CC info and charge backs in no way proves anything. A few bad eggs doesn't prove that everything on that site is illegitimate and fraudulent nor does it prove that G2A supports it. There are legitimate ways of acquiring keys from bundles, giveaways, or by purchasing games in countries that sell at much lower prices. Do stolen goods get sold on G2A? Yes. But are all of the keys or even half of them stolen? I seriously doubt it and have yet to be swayed into believing they are. If most of the keys on G2A were stolen they’d have to deal with so many chargebacks and refunds that the service could simply not remain open. This type of thing only happens here and there. People need to drop the misconception of G2A primarily selling stolen goods.

Others have pointed out that TinyBuild are responsible for the transactions that take place in their store. If their store was easily abused then that is on them. It's not G2As fault someone abused TinyBuilds store and sold stolen goods on G2A. G2A is like a flea market where various sellers peddle their goods. Is it the flea markets fault when someone sells stolen goods there? Is it also G2As fault if Paypal and Credit Card companies allow chargeback abuse? This whole chargeback system is the big issue.

People read a few articles with click bait titles and instantly feel so passionately against G2A because it feels like the morally and emotionally correct thing to do. Function on logic and instead delve deeper into the scenario, and you'll see how these abrasive overreactions by certain people are completely unnecessary.

Smiffsten · 1時間前

Imma just gonna leave this here: https://www.g2a.com/steam-gift-card-20-euro-cd-key-eu.html

Stonebriar · 2時間前

Haha I'm still going to buy from G2A, I think I'll buy Arma3 next.

The more downvotes I get, the better I'll feel buying from them lol.

VagabondWolf · 2時間前

Okay look, I get the sentiment that people shouldn't buy from G2A on the account of it being a fence for stolen goods.

But the average consumer doesn't give diddly squat where the product comes from as long as it functions exactly as described and is cheap.

There's simply no real repercussions to buying from G2A. If the key is defective, you get another key as long as you used G2A shield. Otherwise, you get your game at a discount.

If you want G2A to go down, you don't need to convince the morally righteous to avoid them. You need to convince the morally ambiguous. The average joe. The people who need to save a dollar and don't care about the origins of an item to do so.

If you tell those guys it's stolen, their only question is "How does it effect me?". There's no downsides to them. You can't convince them to change their mind.

If G2A is going to go down, it's not going to be because people want to avoid stolen goods. It's going to be because some implementation was put in place that causes charge backs to revoke access to keys. When people start being negatively affected by G2A's practices, that's going to be when they fall.

Natural selection has the right idea. But the scale is too small. This kind of thing needs to happen consistently.

Edit: I mean, I'm not wrong. That's the reality of the situation.

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