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ethereum 内の tokyo3 によるリンク In the end consensus is ours, computers dont own humans, humans own computers

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was a metaphor. In this metaphor, game = smart contract; rules = smart contract code.

I read the contract code (the rules). I like the code (the rules) and I send my ether to the contract (I play the game).

After I sent the ether, they reverse the code, change the contract (change the rules after the game started) and steal my ether.

Is like playing blackjack, and changing the 21 rule after the game has started.

Would you get into a smart contract knowing the code can be changed after you have sent ether?

Would you play blackjack knowing the 21 rule can change during the game?

ethereum 内の tokyo3 によるリンク In the end consensus is ours, computers dont own humans, humans own computers

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am a software engineer and I have no idea what you are talking about.

code is ambiguous to the human

That means some human misunderstands the code.

There are many humans that don't understand any code. You cannot expect every human to understand something.

ethereum 内の tokyo3 によるリンク In the end consensus is ours, computers dont own humans, humans own computers

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't understand the code, therefore the code is ambiguous?

What!? o_O

ethereum 内の tokyo3 によるリンク In the end consensus is ours, computers dont own humans, humans own computers

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Code ... has ambiguities

What!? o_O

ethereum 内の tokyo3 によるリンク In the end consensus is ours, computers dont own humans, humans own computers

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can make any rules you want before the game starts.

If you change the rules after the game has started, that is cheating.

would you play if the rules can be changed in the middle of the game?

btc 内の rusbit によるリンク Bitcoin price sliding down to $700

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

$680 now.

ethereum 内の EthereumCanada によるリンク Ethereum Founder Anthony Di Iorio on twitter: I urge Ethereum (foundation) including @VitalikButerin to separate from 3rd party dapps/contracts/companies. Focus on education, protocol, scale.

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems he has been shadowbanned.

I reported his comments anyway.

ethereum 内の afdudley によるリンク Vitalik Butterin: We’ve had many reqs from community for updates on the DAO situation. We are continuing to discuss internally and move fwd with solutions.

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ethereum is in beta, bugged and should be fixed.

No, Ethereum worked flawlessly, it executed the DAO code exactly as written.

ethereum 内の 0xfffffff によるリンク Code is Cruel

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you don't think the DAO is too big to fail and you only worry about the thief to go unpunished, I guess you would support locking the DAO funds forever, letting the DAO fail and the punishing the thief.

Do you agree with letting the DAO fail punishing the thief?

ethereum 内の 0xfffffff によるリンク Code is Cruel

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

too large to be ignored

I take it. Too big to fail.

ethereum 内の latetot によるリンク The ability to reverse exploits that violate the intent and good faith actions of thousands of people will promote mainstream adoption - not hinder it.

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I apologize, I thought you were arguing in favor of the hard fork to undo the DAO smart contract.

btc 内の chinawat によるリンク The Bitcoin Block Clock

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And it is using Bitcoin Unlimited.

ethereum 内の latetot によるリンク The ability to reverse exploits that violate the intent and good faith actions of thousands of people will promote mainstream adoption - not hinder it.

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

should be held accountable

You should be accountable too. You made your choice. You should know nothing is risk free. If your choice gives you profits, you deserve your profits. BUT if your choice gives you loses, you deserve your loses.

ethereum 内の AttaAtta によるリンク An Ethereum hard fork is not a bailout; it’s foiling a bank robbery. — Colony

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is what I will do if they start reverting transactions or reverting contracts.

ethereum 内の AttaAtta によるリンク An Ethereum hard fork is not a bailout; it’s foiling a bank robbery. — Colony

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If contracts can be reverted, then how exactly are smart contracts any better than regular old paper contracts?

ethereum 内の AttaAtta によるリンク An Ethereum hard fork is not a bailout; it’s foiling a bank robbery. — Colony

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The community will decide, not the code.

I want a system where the code decides, not the community.

I specially don't want a system where the community decides AFTER the rules have been written.

ethereum 内の AttaAtta によるリンク An Ethereum hard fork is not a bailout; it’s foiling a bank robbery. — Colony

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read the article before writing here.

What is a "small scale"? One person? 100 people? 1 million people?

The ethereum protocol does not care about your scales. It does not care about who you are, what you buy with your ether, why you buy it or who are you sending your ether to. It does not care if you are smart or dumb. It does not care if you are lucky or not. It does not care and it should not care.

Don't try to change the ethereum system to fix your problems. You were not lucky. The system does not care. It should not care.

ethereum 内の AttaAtta によるリンク An Ethereum hard fork is not a bailout; it’s foiling a bank robbery. — Colony

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's unreasonable to expect everyone to find a bug before they invest.

Nobody is expecting "everyone to find a bug before they invest".

Everybody is expecting that if you have good luck in your investment, you get your profits. It was your investment, you deserve your profits.

BUT, if you have bad luck, you get your loses. It was your investment, you deserve your loses.

ethereum 内の AttaAtta によるリンク An Ethereum hard fork is not a bailout; it’s foiling a bank robbery. — Colony

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I draw the line where someone takes something that doesn't belong to them

Should we softfork everytime "someone takes something that doesn't belong to them"?

If somebody steals your keys, should we softfork?

btc 内の AnalyzerX7 によるリンク Trezor Poll - What is your preferred CLOUD STORAGE? - Vote now

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair enough. I always encrypt before sending to the cloud as well. No need to trust Mega or Dropbox.

I was a dropbox user, but I switched to Mega because it has unlimited file history and you can recover a previous version of a file in case of damage or accidental deletion.

More capacity, unlimited file history and fast. I don't use dropbox anymore, I only use Mega now.

Just my 2 satoshis.

btc 内の jratcliff63367 によるリンク I just attended the 'Distributed Trade' conference and let me assure you, industry would love to fill every single block full, no matter how big you make it, if transactions are cheap and plentiful

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

there is zero risk to...

There is zero risk to nothing.

Rising the blocksize will not

"lead to a loss of 12 billion dollars worth of value".

On the contrary, more users and more transactions increase the value of the Bitcoin network.

You know what is risky? Having a Bitcoin network that cannot cope with more users choking at full capacity. Users will use other networks. Have you seen the ethereum rise?

btc 内の jratcliff63367 によるリンク I just attended the 'Distributed Trade' conference and let me assure you, industry would love to fill every single block full, no matter how big you make it, if transactions are cheap and plentiful

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This post is FUD.

btc 内の AnalyzerX7 によるリンク Trezor Poll - What is your preferred CLOUD STORAGE? - Vote now

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mega is much more secure than Dropbox: https://www.incibe.es/extfrontinteco/img/File/intecocert/EstudiosInformes/incibe_security_storage_dropbox_mega.pdf

The study confirms that Mega does not store or process unencrypted passwords whereas Dropbox has access to raw passwords and encryption keys.

On top of that, mega starts with free 50GB.

btc 内の FUBAR-BDHR によるリンク Another gem from luke it's spam jr.

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

no one is paying the cost

I don't follow. Somebody is paying the cost.

btc 内の FUBAR-BDHR によるリンク Another gem from luke it's spam jr.

[–]Rf3csWxLwQyH1OwZhi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because the transaction has to be transmitted to every node and stored by every node.

Anyway, even taking into account the total cost of everynode, the cost of one transaction (500bytes) is much cheaper than the fees most people are paying.

The cost of transmitting and storing 500 bytes is getting cheaper and cheaper every year (halving aprox every two years). That is why Gavin proposed a starting 8MB right now and doubling the limit every two years: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/163

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