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Sup everyone,
Excuse my throwaway account name.. it seemed like a cool idea at the time.
So, I would like to share my experience and understandings with dating a Redpill guy. He was my first boyfriend. We dated only for a short while and broke up a few months ago.
To put it lightly, it was (and unfortunately still is) a horrible experience for me. When we first started dating I had no knowledge whatsoever of Redpill, MGTOW or any of these theories or online groups. I was pretty limited in my knowledge of men and dating. I've read the theories once but have avoided Redpill altogether cause I feel like it's so hateful towards me as I am in fact a female. I might not know the exact theories but I understand what it's about and it's not good.
I feel like men who indulge in these theories want power. They use the excuse that women only cheat on men but you see these men are insecure and lack power. These men purposely date low value women to prove their point with their own selected evidence. And what do we see happen? The women cheat and the men say "my theory is correct". But you see, this evidence is invalid.
A high value man would not do this. A high value man would avoid a women he didn't trust altogether. This hurts high value women because these men recruit in the numbers and then they accuse all women. The worst is the false accusations that you are a cheater when you are not. Again, a high value male does not falsely accuse others. High value men have dignity and they have respect for others.
How would you feel as a man if you started dating a girl, having no knowledge of her background of online hate theories and groups fired directly toward men, having her play manipulative mind games on you AND emotionally abusing you to the point where you had to leave her. Only to have her stalk you, harass you, make you feel like your life is in danger and disrupt your work, family and love life.
Treat others how you want to be treated yourself.
That's all I have to say.
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[–]bazopboomgumbochops 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
I'm sorry you have to deal with all of this. I hope it blows over soon and you can have peace again.
I believe the core of Red Pill started with wanting to be a man who doesn't rely on women's desire for happiness or self-value, and many guys who felt insecure/lost could relate, because they were tired of chasing after girls' desire. There's actually good in this; you shouldn't use women as a status symbol to make you feel 'whole' as a man, you should be whole as a man first, so that you can fully love and desire the woman you're with, not needing her to make you feel okay with yourself.
But then, instead of still loving women but not needing them, these guys often seem to turn towards actively hating women as a way to avoid putting them on a pedestal. In a way, it's almost like a defense mechanism for guys who have been hurt before. It's a classic case of getting bitter instead of getting better.
On the bright side, at least you can be be more wary next time you're interested in someone, and can hopefully avoid the guys that have gone down the women-hating route.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Thank you :)
[–]RedMedi 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
I also extend my apologies. It must have been a horrific experience, especially given it was your first relationship. It makes me so grateful that I never inflicted such pain on anybody during my time in the movement.
I want to reassure you that there are many men out there who are honest, loving and will respect your boundaries. Please don't let this experience tar your future relationships and view of men. There are so many good men looking for good women!
[–]RedPillDetox 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
This kind of shit is one of the reasons i try to help men detox from red pill... I'm sorry you had these experiences and i hope you find an actual good boyfriend in the future.
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