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It seems attacker just targeted the WhiteHatDAOs (self.ethereum)

GloomyOak が 投稿

If you own the addresses 0xb97ba16dfafa8fc5824c029f0653cc03a1796e99 or 0xe1e278e5e6bbe00b2a41d49b60853bf6791ab614 please come forward.

Alex was asking them to come forward, now one of them just split into both WhiteHatDAOs. Why would he do that if not to attack?

http://etherscan.io/tx/0xcf53895553f95e304914cfee285ea8b9e24c83eb49b4840146be13711a91117d http://etherscan.io/tx/0x779ce6a810d621ea476aa22ade3fba166cb7d8567d81528286ae4926ce0d62f8

edit: thanks for the gold!

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[–]LefterisJP 100ポイント101ポイント  (108子コメント)

Yes the attacker is on the move again right now. He donated some ether into the DAO and joined both whitehat splits. We drained the ETH he donated as fast as we could but he got what he wanted.

An attacker in now part of split 78 and he can now do the split attack again in that white hat DAOs. This is why we need a soft fork. I will publish a blog post very soon with the steps forward from now on.

But DO NOT panic. That means that any other move the attacker would try to do would come after 24 days. And that gives us more than enough time to have the soft fork implemented.

[–]acidProtestCarnival 143ポイント144ポイント  (9子コメント)

I feel like this whole thing needs the Benny Hill theme playing in the background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

[–]PatrolX 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

This Benny Hill contribution definitely helps, thank you.

[–]giact 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, this deserves Reddit gold! 😂

[–]TaleRecursion 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, you just made me realize how entertaining this whole thing actually is. It was well worth the price of the tickets!

[–]maxminski 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the best comment I've read for quite a long while.

[–]drinkzya 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL!

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    [–]Si8Pa 29ポイント30ポイント  (19子コメント)

    I love the "DO NOT panic" part.

    [–]TaleRecursion 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can someone page me when it's time to panic?

    [–]jomofo 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA

    [–]Sunny_McJoyride 6ポイント7ポイント  (14子コメント)

    I love that it's an actually justified "do not panic", and not an "everything is fine" do not panic.

    [–]TaleRecursion 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Edit: PANICK NOW!

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        [–]Zhaey 19ポイント20ポイント  (10子コメント)

        I think many of us were hoping the whitehat attack would improve the chance of no fork having to be implemented after all. Seems like that's not going to be the case.

        [–]LefterisJP 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

        I also secretly hoped so. Only one account that voted in the split was unaccounted for. Unfortunately it was a hostile account.

        [–]Phroneo 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Ha! What were the chances of that?

        [–]C1aranMurray 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

        High when you're dealing with an attacker who knows what they're doing unfortunately.

        [–]Constantin1975 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He's had a 'little' time to prepare for possible mitigation.

        [–]TaleRecursion 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Last hope: analyze the time preferences of the attacker by looking at his transactions in the ledger, and start counter attacks at random hours of the night in his timezone every f*cking night. At some point he'll be too tired to care, and we'll pwn him!

        [–]Okymyo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He can easily setup something to alert him whenever a split is voted on and gains traction.

        [–]ethaddict 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I can imagine him/her laughing snickering heavily as they did this. It's quite hilarious now that it basically means nothing. Although would be funny anyway.

        [–]AlLnAtuRalX 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        It was a worthy gamble anyway, and we're no worse off than we were with the funds in the original DAO.

        [–]TaleRecursion 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Right, anyway the DAO would have funded only crappy projects like Arcade City and ended up making a negative return. At least that has got some epic factor to it!

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          [–]Phroneo 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Thanks for the reassurance and the amazing work. You're good guys. Fkn Smart, and really good guys. :)

          [–]baddogesgotoheaven 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Fun fact: Lefteris' name is Greek(Ελευθέριος) and comes from the word ελευθερία(=freedom, liberty) and can be roughly translated as 'liberator' or 'freedom fighter'.

          Not even making this up. The movie script is writing itself by this point.

          [–]DrownedDeity 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I'll Craig Wright the patent on it. Don't even try me.

          [–]TaleRecursion 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          'freedom fighter'

          Nice, you just got him added on a couple of lists at three-letter agencies

          [–]baddogesgotoheaven 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You just got yourself added on my list of trolls.

          [–]joegoos 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Does anyone know what happens if that account that split into both whitehatDAO's remains a non-threat, like any other 'splitter', but then on the 23rd day starts to drain again? Is that something we should be worried about?

          [–]PhineasBolocain 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

          How is possible for an attacker to join new split althoug the split was already done few days ago (and voting closed). Is it possible to buy new tokens after the split?

          [–]LefterisJP 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          no, as long as someone voted in a split he can always call splitDAO() at any point during the creation phase of the new DAO

          [–]linagee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Why does the new DAO even need a .split()? I don't get it.

          [–]C1aranMurray 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Dear me what a saga! Best of luck!

          [–]hosiawak 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

          An attacker is attacking the Robin Hood attack. Where's the popcorn ?

          [–]TaleRecursion 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Where is Chuck Noris when you need him?

          [–]koggelmander 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          What can a fundamentalist Christian that publicly denies evolution, promised to "tattoo an American flag on the forehead of every atheist," if he becomes president, is an anti-vaxxer, believes in chemtrails, and is in general a conspiracy nut do to help?

          [–]LefterisJP 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          none can touch the ether in the child DAO for 24 days.

          [–]DonaldCruz 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

          This is why we need a soft fork.

          No. This is why people should stop putting significant amounts of money into contracts developed by people who make grandiose claims.

          [–]joeykrug 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

          There are two white hat daos? Does anyone have a link to the smaller one?

          [–]slimmtl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          2 more weeks

          [–]AQuentson 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

          If he donated tokens then I guess you should publish the names and amount of all who donated DAO tokens. That should narrow the potential attacker pool considerably.

          Unless I'm missing something?

          [–]LefterisJP 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

          no this has nothing to do with people who lent us DAO tokens to run the whitehat. This attacker simply sent ETH to the DAO in order to burn it all just to get his foot on the door of the whitehat DAOs. We still have majority in there. He has only a few Wei worth.

          [–]callmetau 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I'm holding lots of theDAO tokens. If you need my support just DM me. I've already wrote to "avsa"

          [–]aliensyntax 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

          If that's the case, wouldn't his replay attacks be orders of magnitude slower than the white hat? If both the white hat and attacker split again inside the child DAO and run the exploit at the same time, doesn't that mean the white hat would recover practically all of the funds before the attacker? If that happened, wouldn't the attacker exhaust all ether and lose the ability to continue splitting? I'm not clear on the implications of the attacker's presence. How much of a threat is he with only a few Wei worth?

          [–]buccenridge 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          No. http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/06/17/thoughts-on-the-dao-hack/ We have been aware of this eventuality for several days now.

          [–]DeviateFish_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          He's able to still continue to drain the child DAO, or at least repeat this attack (donate some ETH to the child DAO, call splitDAO at the last moment), etc.

          The issue is that the DAO code allows for accepting ETH even after the crowdsale period has ended... Which is exceedingly bizarre, honestly.

          This, coupled with the changes that made this attack possible (worth checking out the commit history), makes no sense at all.

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            [–]FractalGlitch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            This is why we need a soft fork.

            No.

            We don't need a soft fork to protect dumbass money inside a dumbass contract.

            We might need a fork because the dao is making US ALL lose money.

            [–]cHaTrU 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Any new moves with the white hat DAOs.

            The time to implement the soft fork to contain the original dark DAO is not that much!

            [–]IVI3T4L 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            I think we need to contain the entire dao now

            [–]FractalGlitch -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

            We really should let it go. The price hit already happened, if we play with it it will only be worse.

            Fuck this stupid contract.

            [–]rothbard73 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Is that means all means there is no hard fork, but soft fork at most?

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              [–]buccenridge 20ポイント21ポイント  (10子コメント)

              So now the black and white hatters just split and join, on and on into a he-who-stops-first-loses grey-hat infinity?

              [–]disembowelerina 29ポイント30ポイント  (3子コメント)

              It has literally become a hacking contest in the key of ETH

              [–]buccenridge 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Yep, and an appropriate sisyphean punishment for the mad hatter who should have know better.

              [–]TaleRecursion 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Let's announce a hacking contest with 10.7M ETH of prizes on all hacking boards, lean back, and have the last laugh while our attacker tries desperately to keep control of the funds. At least the loot will end up well distributed.

              [–]lionhart280 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              This... This isnt a bad idea actually.

              One of the huge downsides to the problem is all that Eth ending up in one person's hands at once.

              But if it is evenly divided up and spread out, then the issue becomes a lot smaller.

              [–]DrownedDeity 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

              High stakes digital marathon?

              [–]dlopoel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It will all dissipate in gas cost.. Maybe the miners should hair collude into appropriating the DAO's ether to themselves, you know, to end the story more quickly.

              [–]dezrambson 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Can someone explain how a soft fork would stop this infinite split and join process?

              [–]tjade273 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

              A soft fork would censor all of the attacker's transactions, making it impossible for them to keep carrying out these attacks

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                [–]MrNotSoRight 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

                Even with (what seems like) a majority pro-fork, he's not giving up. Don't know if he's doing it for the lulz or really think he's gonna get his hands on that ether...

                [–]FractalGlitch -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I wouldn't guess about that majority...

                If price recover like it seems it is going to do, no use to save those dumbass that invested in a dumbass contract.

                Also, the "do not fork" camp is gaining with the price recovery.

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                  [–]AstarJoe 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  This whole episode is just a joke now.

                  [–]evil_arch 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  Is there reason to think this is a single entity or person? If the exploit is known cant anyone do it?

                  [–]GloomyOak[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  It could easily be someone else, I haven't found a link between them. If there was a link, WhiteHat group wouldn't pick that split. If it was the same entity, I'd find it quite obscene, "having" 3M ether and wanting more.

                  [–]LarsPensjo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  The last move could have been just for the laugh of it. It certainly adds to the drama. But I think it was a mistake. There was a chance that the attacker would have been allowed to get away with the theft. But that chance is now much smaller as the stakes got three times bigger.

                  [–]AstarJoe 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Could it be you? Could it be one of your team?

                  [–]GloomyOak[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Not me and I'm not on the team, just following closely

                  [–]hodlor 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Is there any word on how the vote for the soft fork is progressing? How far away are we on it being implemented?

                  [–]GloomyOak[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  We had couple of implementations of simple soft-fork (generic), blocking decrease of any DAO contract balance. It would be the first step of two step action.

                  Now the first step isn't needed anymore, and second step (targeted) can be a soft-fork instead of a hard-fork. I haven't seen any implementations of the new soft-fork yet.

                  [–]hodlor 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It's okay for me to be confused, as long as the miners know what the options are and how to choose among them.

                  [–]Norbert_Spudgun 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I don't want to sound ignorant, but can someone come up with a swing-o-meter to let us know who's winning?

                  [–]GloomyOak[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Swing-o-meter is 72% our side: https://poloniex.com/exchange#eth_dao

                  [–]Norbert_Spudgun 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  lol thanks buddy! Keep up the great work, legendary stuff

                  [–]blueperrier 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  He's somewhat right. The market is probably the closest we have to an estimation of who's winning

                  [–]itsnotlupus 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Neat. I wasn't expecting the same attacker to make another move. That's aggressive and greedy, as each further step increases the odds someone will figure out something about them.

                  For example, the timing of the attacker joining the "whitehat" DAO could be very revealing.

                  Unless of course the attacker was already in that DAO long before the "whitehat" folks decided to use it, which would be a little bit funny.

                  That would bring up the possibility that the attacker planned ahead and placed himself on every existing DAO beforehand to be able to react to this kind of mitigation attempts.

                  The other possibility here is that the new split was done by someone completely different and unrelated to the previous attacker, who happened to wake up and find themselves on the "whitehat" DAO and went "hey! I like money!"

                  [–]GloomyOak[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  That would bring up the possibility that the attacker planned ahead and placed himself on every existing DAO beforehand to be able to react to this kind of mitigation attempts.

                  Exactly

                  The other possibility here is that the new split was done by someone completely different and unrelated to the previous attacker

                  Agree

                  [–]cryptobaseline 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Emin was right. White-Attacking the DAO is a risky measure. If the attacker wasn't sure that the community will think/plan a soft/hard fork, he would have drained the whole amount out of the DAO.

                  This is the reason why the hacker didn't. He is playing games.

                  [–]saibog38 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Wouldn't sabotaging the white hat DAO make forks more likely?

                  [–]0brain 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  White-Attacking the DAO is a risky measure

                  What exactly are the risks? What is there to lose at this point if we can fall back to a fork later on?

                  [–]LarsPensjo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Exactly, the white hat attack improved the situation.

                  [–]418sec 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  When this drama started... And the Devs started a counter attack... The background music was like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAYhNHhxN0A

                  Now its like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

                  That's the best way to explain the chain of events.

                  [–]cHaTrU 16ポイント17ポイント  (68子コメント)

                  I think it's time we also took the perpetrator(s) behind the attack seriously rather than just taking the attack seriously.

                  I'm wiling to contribute towards a bounty to fund the efforts that leads to any sort of demystification of the culprits of this attack.

                  [–]Ikinoki 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  People were ready to contribute millions in some cases of bitcoin fraud. No perps were found.

                  neo&bee anyone? where's that guy?

                  [–]px403 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  You should write a bounty contract and get everyone to put all their money in it.

                  [–]logical 0ポイント1ポイント  (46子コメント)

                  Contact the police. They have internationally collaborating cybercrimes divisions just for this purpose.

                  [–]RegularJerk 29ポイント30ポイント  (12子コメント)

                  Mister police man somebody on the internet hurt my fee fees and also took advantage of some shitty code can you arrest him pwetty pwease

                  [–]rothbard73 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  So, you are asking a help from a fully centralized organization for a decentralized autonomous organization.

                  [–]Explodicle 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  At this point it should be clear there's no "DA" in DAO.

                  [–]bb1409 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  That is exactly what they are doing! http://pastebin.com/CvuPvDdL

                  [–]RegularJerk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Cyberpoliceman: What did he do?

                  Cybercrybaby: Well... he stole some 1 and 0s because somebody wrote shitty code

                  Cyberpoliceman: We'll give you a cybercall as soon as we have something.

                  [–]WubsEvs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I loled

                  [–]buccenridge -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Fork off, sonny.

                  [–]Dis-entropy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  LOL

                  [–]michelmx 0ポイント1ポイント  (23子コメント)

                  and tell them what?

                  no laws were broken. the only thing broken is the DAO code and it is about to kill ethereum as a permissionless decentralized blockchain.

                  But everybody in here is supporting centralisation all of a sudden.

                  [–]mc_hambone 12ポイント13ポイント  (8子コメント)

                  Regardless of what The DAO people tell you about "code == law", there is plenty of evidence proving that the draining of funds to one account was not the intent of The DAO, that it was admittedly a bug in the code which led to this attack, and that there are many examples of people being charged for similarly exploiting bugs for their own gain at the expense of others in the same system.

                  [–]amerinsyd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Exactly.

                  [–]Polycephal_Lee 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  to the extent you believe there to be any conflict or discrepancy between the descriptions offered here and the functionality of The DAO’s code at 0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413, The DAO’s code controls and sets forth all terms of The DAO Creation.

                  https://daohub.org/explainer.html

                  [–]AlLnAtuRalX 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Just writing something on a website does not make it legally binding. Believe it or not if I write "by clicking this button you give me the right to every penny you ever make" and you click the button, it ain't so. Even the ToCs for software like iTunes, written by lawyers specifically to conform to laws and containing only legal clauses, have been thrown out of court.

                  Laws operate below the level of what some rando posts on a splash page, no matter how oft repeated.

                  [–]Polycephal_Lee 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Well if you want to respect the legacy legal institutions that's fine. I don't know why you'd want Ethereum in that case though. It'd be easier to do your thing in the legacy environment that has contract lawyers instead of miners.

                  Either the code is contractually binding, or you bring in the bureaucracy of arbitration. You can't have both.

                  [–]AlLnAtuRalX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  The network and its users is the arbitration. "The code" is not enough because the contract depends on how the network executes the code (a rule change wouldn't touch the code itself but could easily drastically change behavior).

                  I'm not commenting on whether I want the legal institutions to be involved, merely on how the legal institutions see it. And the way they won't see it is "let's throw out 300+ (or for some thousands) of years of precedence because somebody wrote code is law". The SEC is already investigating.

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                    [–]tereensio 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    yes, and if "code ≠ law" the the DAO itself is/was illegal, as an investment vehicle

                    one can't have it both ways

                    "code =law" DAO is good & legal

                    "code ≠ law" attacker bad & illegal

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                      [–]evmt 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      "Decentralized consensus decision = centralization" looks like one of the most retarded fallacies ever made.

                      [–]thestringpuller 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I think he's talking about breaking the Byzantine General problem by adding in a centralized factor.

                      Ideally PoW solves the problem by allowing everyone to verify which time to attack. They consent without actually communicating with EVERY node on the network. I may not know Mustafa, in unit 413, but Mustafa and I will be attacking the city at the same time.

                      What's happening here is akin to one noisy general yelling out while on the battlefield, "Hey guys, this is a really bad idea can we retreat and try again?" Then using the same method of consensus to retreat and find another time to attack. Some may disagree with retreating others may be okay with it.

                      The problem for most people I think is that its so easy for a few "noisy people" everyone seems to listen to in order to change the time of attack, even while in battle.

                      If this is the case it makes it rather trivial for the opposing army to come in, gain trust, and then yell loud enough for the army to retreat.

                      This is the exact same debate Bitcoin has been having for 4 years, and as each year passes it becomes slightly more difficult to change that attack time. Is this a good thing? Some would say yes, some would say no.

                      It's easier to hack the human than the system. So be very aware of the choices you as an individual make and decide to trust.

                      [–]overzealous_dentist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      "calling in a government agency to enforce rules," that doesn't sound centralizing

                      [–]rowaasr13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Ethereum(c)(tm)(r) "Where 51% attack is not a problem - it is a law."

                      [–]TheTT 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Pretty sure what he did qualifies as theft, fraud, and/or hacking.

                      [–]nopeNotBuyingIt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Of course they are, its all fun and games until someone that isnt the eth devs have their money. Plot twist would be what if its one of the disgruntled eth devs that didnt make as much as some of the others.

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                        [–]crawlingfasta 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I asked a corporate lawyer for a big VC firm what his thoughts on this were.

                        He said something like, "I think it would make the court's head explode."

                        [–]workorpork 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Yes, go cry to the police that you agreed to a code-contract that allows anyone to take your money.

                        [–]logical 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I never owned a single unit of DAO. I'm only making recommendations to the people who did.

                        [–]mcr55 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        How the tides of feelings have turned. Form, "we don't need judges, juries and big govt" to "the state should step in and protect us"

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                          [–]overzealous_dentist -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Are you kidding? He's broken no laws, he's followed the weak rules of the DAO contract that everyone agreed to, and we're rooting on others doing the same thing.

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                            [–]General_Illus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            This is turning out to be like the governmental contract. The last one to split with no one joining wins.

                            [–]sexystick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            It's safe to assume attacker has and will vote on every split to protect their ETH. Only a split voted on by 1 person (the way the attacker did) is the only way to secure coins.

                            -the hot potato changes hands

                            [–]OperationNine 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Seriously????

                            [–]Tracy__Flick 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I'm sure everything will be fine in time for Devcon2.

                            [–]1EVwbX1rswFzo9fMFsum 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            There is so much humor in the inner circle not learning that they shouldn't post overly confident after the 10th time.

                            [–]Piranhax 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            They may have just been baiting the hacker to attack again. Maybe they figured out a way to track him.

                            [–]Phroneo 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            This is mad. How soon are they likely to soft-fork? It seems we can't wait much longer.

                            [–]pickYOURlocks 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Soft fork already got rolled out I thought.

                            [–]cHaTrU 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I think for this one we'll need a different sort of soft fork than the one already rolled out.

                            That's the thing with the soft forks. :/

                            [–]briceb8e 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            If I were the attacker I would have absolutely no expectation to get those ethers out of The DAO. What I would do however, is play the market and make a tremendous amount of money out of those "insider trading" moves.

                            [–]ethereumcpw 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I don't think so because that increases the likelihood of him/her getting caught. I think his motivation is not money, but to cause as much mayhem in Ethereum as possible.

                            [–]op-return 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            What a cluster-fuck

                            [–]DrDike 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            As long as the whole story has a happy end, I won't panic :)

                            [–]nopeNotBuyingIt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            what is a happy ending to you?

                            [–]Crypto_Wolf 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            If I put this on mute... and listen to this instead... I can almost picture a dialog about this whole clusterfuck a la "Hitler Learn's about the DAO attach.. again"...

                            [–]syaoran99 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            Check the original WhiteDAO addresses and you will be able to confirm that no ETH has left the account. none

                            https://etherscan.io/address/0xb136707642a4ea12fb4bae820f03d2562ebff487 http://etherscan.io/address/0x84ef4b2357079cd7a7c69fd7a37cd0609a679106

                            [–]Sunny_McJoyride 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            The point being made was that the attacker has joined the splits – so he's still out there and trying to cause problems.

                            OP didn't say that ETH was being drained again.

                            [–]paleovanguard 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            "targeted" doesn't mean eth has left the whitedao. it means that the attacker voted for the split to the white dao and now owns tokens in the white dao.

                            [–]Willidungl 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Instead of screaming 'LIES' you should try to understand the subject better. Nobody claimed that ETH has been withdrawn...

                            The attacker has split into the WhitehatDAO, that means he could execute his attack there again

                            [–]syaoran99 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            why is the true address of the whiteDAO being down voted?

                            [–]NewToETH 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            How could you be against the soft fork now? Let's just do it already and end this. I hope we find out who this attacker is.

                            [–]GloomyOak[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I'm not, we definitely need one now

                            [–]tropser 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Is ethereum new paycoin?

                            [–]ubermicro 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            With the hypocrates changing the concepts behind ethereum from trustless to "lets all interpret intent of contracts after it runs and blacklist anyone we don't like", I truly hope the attacker wins and controls ethereum as he has better understanding of this crypto's best sides than ethereum foundation and DAO folks. Is there a movement to take ethereum away from the people running it now? I'd support it in any way because I want ethereum to succeed.

                            [–]S00rabh 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            I am starting to enjoy this. Makes me wonder how few people with awesome knowledge can do wonders.

                            Nothing is good or evil. It's all perspective.

                            [–]LesbleuUSA 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            "Nothing is good or evil." Not buying it.

                            [–]twigwam 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            You could argue that "no thing" is good or evil...that good is good and evil is evil. Perhaps things are 'filled with' one of these. Perhaps acts themselves can be good or evil if done in a spirit of whichever one of them.

                            Ooo wait, this isnt r/theology. Opps ;)

                            [–]maisdisdonc 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Whilst I feel for those greedy, naive souls who poured too much money into this experiment, I can't help appreciating the current and so predictable absurdity playing out.

                            Like monkey space pirate chess.

                            Totally with Benny Hill soundtrack. And Dukes of Hazard.

                            Is everyone taking notes for future DAOs? Or is this idea DOA?

                            Could someone make an app showing this battle, please? On a train. Bored

                            [–]dapperdances 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Since the DAO is an independent entity, it will be funny trying to explain the difference between a whitehat and a blackhat attack to the authorities or the SEC.

                            [–]aerotrader 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Remember: the motivation of the attacker is the fast profit earned by shorting ETH before the panic sell reaction. My counter strategy = HODL!

                            [–]Sonicthoughts 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            From an outsider / newbie - I hope the people making decisions and discussing this act like adults and try to demonstrate principals.

                            [–]KevinOsterling 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            F..ck I dindnt buy tickets for this show...

                            [–]Rhynchlma 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

                            [–]AjaxFC1900 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            The dick measuring contest between the attacker and the eth devs continues....listen to /u/adiiorio and stop interfering already

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                            [–]-o-o-o 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Some one needs to call LudicrisXzibit (thanks to /u/aroundtheblock) Yo Dog I heard you like splittin DAO's so we split on your split and then split on your splits and then split on your splits with a split and the split again...this DAO splitting is Dope Y'all Wheres dat Uri Geller at?

                            [–]syaoran99 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (12子コメント)

                            Doesn't that mean that we have identified the hacker? I'm sure prior to being allowed to join the WhiteHatDAO, they would have done due diligence to get information on where to find him if any of the contributors of the WhiteHatDAO attempt such a thing.

                            I say EXPOSE HIS IDENTITY and lets settle things ourselves in the real world. HEAD HUNT!

                            [–]red18hawk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            No way to know his identity as far as I know. The only thing needed to be a part of the white hat dao was to vote yes to the same split they used. He probably voted yes to all of them.

                            [–]oncemoor 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Agree. As they say in the real world, we need to make an example out of him.

                            [–]twigwam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Too messy.

                            [–]rbobby 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I say EXPOSE HIS IDENTITY and lets settle things ourselves in the real world. HEAD HUNT!

                            That's exactly what the attacker would say!!!

                            [–]Illesac 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I hope for your sake you never do anything to piss off the masses because you deserve no mercy.

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