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[–][deleted] 48ポイント49ポイント  (7子コメント)

I’m what is called, in technical terms, a masochist.

Truest words in /r/BadSocialScience history.

[–]TheZizekiest[S] 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

Haha whoops. Getting my technical terms confused in sentence two not a good sign!

[–]gamegyro56 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I’m what is called, in technical terms, a sadist

I'm a masochist, so this really got my hopes up for the rest of your post, but it ended up being a big let down. So...good job, I guess.

[–]interiot 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Muphry's Law: "If you write anything criticizing editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written."

[–]SinfulSinnerSinning 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

The main claim of this book is that human genetic diversity has increased at a greater rate since some 10,00 years ago.

Found another typo (emphasis mine), so you must be wrong! Guess I'll sub to /r/CoonTown now.

And here:

(South American Explorers)[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_American_Explorers]

[–]TheZizekiest[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a lot of typos in there. I have this thing where when I finish writing something I don't edit it because I'm sick of the sight of it.

that there have between genetic changes

between should be been

Is another typo. The writing is also atrocious. There are some abysmal sentences in there. It really could have done with an edit. Maybe tomorrow.

[–]babyreadsalot -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I know of studies on ancient DNA compared to modern, modern Europeans have been evolving rapidly since the Neolithic.

[–]MaxNanasy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why'd you change it? Wasn't "masochist" (i.e. one who enjoys experiencing pain) right and "sadist" (i.e. one who enjoys inflicting pain on others) wrong?

[–]SnugglerificThe archaeology of ignorance 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

Cochran, Gregory and Henry Harpending. 10,000 Year Explosion. New York: Basic Books, 2010

This is actually a pretty bad book -- I did some posts on it here a while back. I don't know enough about genetics to evaluate the main claim that evolution has sped up over the last 10,000 years, but they don't make the case for it very well and the sourcing is pretty patchy.

I can’t actually access this article, my university has not subscribed to Mankind Quarterly

I doubt many do because it's a white supremacist journal and only "peer-reviewed" in the loosest sense. The outfit that publishes it is a eugenicist think tank set up by Roger Pearson and the editor is Richard Lynn, one of the poster boys for contemporary scientific racism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mankind_Quarterly

[–]TheZizekiest[S] 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea I figured it was a terrible book. I just wanted to make my claims as mediated as possible. By outright claiming the book as bad/wrong race realists can fall back on the lactose tolerance and sickle celled anemia claims, but by making a weaker claim and acknowledging that it might have some value gives them (should they ever see this) much less wiggle room.

I also didn't want to call the journal out too much. If I call it an echo chamber race realists would likely call academia an echo chamber, and that discussion goes nowhere. So I was as nice to it as I could be, acknowledged the potential bias and just moved on.

[–]SnugglerificThe archaeology of ignorance 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sub is already on the is_cuckbot shitlist, so I imagine it's not going to make much of a difference.

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        [–]nota999 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The hero of badsocialscience

        [–]XRotNRollX 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

        good job, but none of it matters because they'll just claim that all peer-reviewed things are done by DA J00Z and that they censor THE PURE WHITE TRUTH, so that's why nothing is peer-reviewed

        [–]DanglyW 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well done, good start! You might want to check the sidebar at /r/againsthatesubreddits where we link some other refutations of their sources or further explanations for their misinterpretations of things.

        Also worth looking into David Duke's so called 'PhD'. It's pretty hilarious once you see how he got his 'degree'.

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        [–]TwoFiveOnes 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

        You seem like someone that would be very interested in reading Richard Lewontin. The only "catch" is that some arguments are only fully understandable to a biologist, or more specifically someone versed in genetics. Still, I for example am neither and I find that I can understand his points (also, a lot of them don't refer to biology at all).

        Here are some (superb!) videos:

        What I said about being a biologist doesn't apply here, the lectures are very moderate in this aspect. Oh and spoilers, the answers are "probably not", and "...Yeah, OK", respectively.

        Not to mention his books (of which I've read just a few chapters):

        Keep up the good writing!

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        [–]cestlavie22 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        "The lack of references to this text, and the possibility of bias is, however, sufficiently damning as one of these factors likely explains the other."

        Maybe for humanities. Not in real science.

        [–]thor_moleculez 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

        If you haven't read Gould's Mismeasure of Man, do it! The arguments he makes can be eaisly aimed at HBD spouting race realists.

        [–]SnugglerificThe archaeology of ignorance 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Gould has a lot of things of historical interest in there, but the book still has a number of problems. It's dated so it obviously doesn't cover recent advances in areas like genomics and medicine. It also doesn't cover some of the more contemporary racialists like Rushton or Lynn. James R. Flynn writes with greater fluency on psychometrics. Most importantly, though, the section on Morton's skull measurements has been discredited.

        [–]thor_moleculez 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

        If the discrediting you're referring to is Lewis et. al. 2011, Gould may have survived the criticism somewhat intact. Fair point about the contemporary racialists though.

        [–]SnugglerificThe archaeology of ignorance 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Interesting article, thanks. I've never seen this conflict as being particularly important outside of historical interest. People are really missing the point if they think contemporary biological debates hinge on 19th century skull measurements. There's a century-and-a-half's worth of research to consider!

        [–]thor_moleculez 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well, as the article says racists still earnestly reference Morton to back up white supremacist arguments. Morton is uninteresting from a scientific perspective, but he's a political football that's worth deflating.

        [–]dgerard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        (Here is what RationalWiki which is a pretty terrible source, but whatever) has to say about him

        Well well well ... we have bits that don't suck!

        This is likely to be material for Racialism. Which is not very good either (it's rambling, repetitious and ill-structured), but ehh it'll get there.

        [–]babyreadsalot -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Moreover, its writer Peter Forst is not an academic,

        Last time I had an argument with him, he had a PhD in anthropology, I'm fairly sure that means he's an academic of some description.

        [–]TheZizekiest[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

        I couldn't find on his website, or the NatGeo website, his qualifications. So if he has a PhD he doesn't heavily advertise it. He definitely studied Anthropology, but to what level I'm not sure.

        [–]babyreadsalot -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Evo and Proud.

        He's well enough known that I knew his name without looking it up

        [–]TheZizekiest[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I know what his blog is, I just can't see anywhere on there that it says he has a PhD.

        He publishes with Harpending, and his blog links to Sailer's. He also often publishes through open psyche, which is open access, free to publish, and "open peer review."

        One journal he publishes in has an impact factor of 0.575. Another journal he publishes in Advances in Anthropology has an impact factor of 0.65. THe best impact factor I could find was 1.74. Honestly, I have friends doing Masters looking to publish in more important journals. He is an academic only in the loosest sense of the term.

        [–]babyreadsalot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I know him as a publishing anthropologist, although we have had some hilarious disagreements: he has a PhD from Quebec. Lets just say his work on colouring and sexual selection by males made me laugh a bit. But he is pretty well known.