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[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED[M] 25ポイント26ポイント  (14子コメント)

All right. Not going to lie, it takes a big man to admit when he was wrong... luckily for you /u/wife4lifeihope, I am not that man.

I will say this for everyone in here to read

Standard practice for the locker room. Initial fit testing, followed by unconditional acceptance into said group. She took as hard a beating as any, held frame, didn't get ego invested, and took the value from the posts.

I wish the men coming here did this. Honestly OP, you are probably in the top 20% of first time posters on this one, and I hope that gives the lurkers in here pause. This middle aged overweight mom of 3 held frame better than you did...

Now, onto you OP. I get the impression you don't want to know how to lose the weight, but why, and how soon. Well, we can't answer the latter, because, it depends.

Every guy has a certain level of slack. Mother of my children, cost sunk fallacy, too much hugging as a child... Some guys walk away 1 year in, some stay until the last kids is 18, most are somewhere in between. /u/oldredpiller has a story about how he was going to leave his wife at 55, because she was too much of a workaholic, and was either live happy, or be miserable, so if it's a good man, there is no 'finish line'.

You want honest? that's the single biggest hurdle men in here face, next to self sabotage, and I can tell you're looking for an excuse to sabotage yourself.

As for how a guy thinks, it's progress, not perfection. The fact he put a ring on it gives you some slack. Not 100% slack, but some. This means, if he sees you going to the gym, if he sees you put the ho hos down, if he sees you starting to give a shit about your appearance, he will be happier. He hasn't said anything about it yet, because he's either not willing to hurt your feelings, or he's seething about it quietly, on friday nights with his co workers.

And you should be scared. If he's as you say, there's many women around him that pick up on that, and are willing to take your place, and just waiting for the time to strike.

So, like every guy in here, you have an indeterminate amount of time until something bad happens for you, the best time to plant a tree was 3 kids ago, the second best time is today.

This isn't a mate retention strategy, where you lose some pounds, win, then go back to bobons, this is a complete lifestyle change. You have to embrace it. No feeling self conscious at the gym (don't worry btw, everyone is too busy looking at themselves to check you out). No worrying about sweat in your hair, or your makeup (protip, guys like sweaty girls, reminds them of hot sweaty sex) And no getting mad because it's not coming off fast enough.

It took years to put it all on, and it will take years to take it off again. Accept it, just like you accepted the abuse we all gave you here, and just plow through.

Know what you'll find on the other side? you'll have confidence again, your libido will be back to your old self, and at some point, he'll give you the honest 'thank you for taking care of yourself' speech.

I mean, it's also entirely possible he won't care, and still schlup the secretary, but at this point, you are in a much better position to find some divorced dude with kids, and have a brady bunch christmas at this point, so it's win win...

Good luck, (and I can't believe I'm saying this) welcome to the locker room, you're the first girl i haven't posted this to, unironically

Oh, allmost forgot. Some retards assume that drastic weight loss out of the blue means you've moved on. So in the meantime, just show him that you desire him.

[–]lady_bakerRed Pill Wife 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you. Red pill was what lit a fire under me, I want this woman to have the same experience.

[–]Cam_Winston21 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reading your initial submission, now. Thank you for posting.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

God damn son. You have outdone yourself. My hat is off to you.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

/u/alphabet49 brought up a good point in here that i didn't catch the first time through. First thing she did, first thing, was talk to a divorce lawyer and get her ducks in a row.

Soemthing else for guys to consider, in case they had the misguided notion that they can just 'sprinkle a little alpha' on it and hope for the best

[–]Cam_Winston21 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yes and that's a good point.

Also, perhaps, since she said "if he left" it could be an act of a desperate person who is scared of how she will turn out if she is kicked to the curb with little to show for a resume (and the post reeks of fear, desperation and a lack of personal responsibility).

I could be wrong. Often am.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Believe the TRP. Women are much more aware of the wall and declining SMV than the unplugged men will ever be.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes, I think you're right here. I think I might be just a bit ahead of him, as far as awareness of what is going on here. I need to use that to my advantage.

Ultimately, I want to keep my husband. I want him to look at me and feel proud to be with me.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You already know what you need to do. Work on improving yourself and take the advice from /u/stonepimpletilists in his 1000 word comment. The situation you are in is not ideal but it's at least fixable.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah I totally got that, and if I didnt think mod's giving each other gold was cliche' i would buy you a life time of it.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pft, i was just in a good mood. One of my favourite captains (he was best friends with the other one) just took over as admiral of the Navy, was reminiscing of the time he almost punched me out in the junior ranks mess... Fucking Ron

good time.

[–]il-est-ressusciteMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can't believe it either. Lol. If I didn't hate whistling I'd be whistling that little Jimmy Cliff number. The harder they come.... Lol

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wish I could put yours on the top though. That beats the cake story, hands down

[–]il-est-ressusciteMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No way. The cake one is like some perfect philosophical gem. So simple yet so mighty lol

[–]il-est-ressusciteMRP APPROVED 20ポイント21ポイント  (25子コメント)

Don't be fat.

Even if you are a troll, don't be a fat one.

[–]CountpudyoolaMarried- MRP MODERATOR 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought goat meat was lean? Never understood how trolls could get that big.

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck that's funny. Holy crap. I can't abuse my mod rights and sticky this shit.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (22子コメント)

Ok, well I already am fat.

No, I'm not a troll!

I'm scared for my marriage and typed "fat wife" into the search tool, and it brought up posts here. Reading them scared me more.

I need advice beyond "don't be fat."

[–]il-est-ressusciteMRP APPROVED 7ポイント8ポイント  (17子コメント)

Eat less. Exercise more.

Go somewhere else where women like to discuss weight loss and want to hear about your fears.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (16子コメント)

I guess my question for you, would be if I were your wife, would there be anything that would make you more likely to stay/be content with the marriage until the weight came off?

[–]Askingforafriendta 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously, unless you're sucking his soul out of his dick twice a day AND working hard to lose the weight, then no.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

Submissiveness. Check out /r/redpillwives if you are fat then be submissive and all sexual acts are enthusiastically on the table.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, not willing to have an open marriage or threesomes. But otherwise, I feel like "all sexual acts" are already enthusiastically on the table. Is there something specific, that men are wanting but typically not getting?

[–]_wingnut_RPW MODERATOR 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

it is fucking amazing how you let these holes attention whore here

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

rpwi is that way ----> or maybe they are better served in /r/redpillwomen

[–]_wingnut_RPW MODERATOR 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

no one's better served in redpillwomen

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

don't pretend

[–]_wingnut_RPW MODERATOR 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

no idea what youre talking about, too stoic for me

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Work your ass off. If he's reasonable, he'll see the effort.

Your post is riddled with hurt fee-fees because you can't handle the honest truth that you're not the same woman that originally attracted your husband. But are you doing anything about it? Feels over reals, indeed. Your husband is a high-performing man, and you look like a low-performance woman. No wonder you're scared. Again, are you doing anything about it?

My biggest concern is you've already talked to a lawyer about alimony and child support. You'd be a worthless bitch if you were seriously entertaining the thoughts of "lose the weight vs. get divorced". Are you really that fucking stubborn that you can't discipline yourself to lose it?

Oh, and don't fucking get lipo. Lose it legitimately.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

ooh, missed that one. good catch

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I should clarify. The lawyer (female,) is one of my good friends. It was casual talk, not an appointment. I'm pretty sure she thought I was just joking around, and I guess I was in a way, when I asked how much child support I would get. I can't be sure of exact figures, but we're not even taking divorce at this point. He has no idea I'm even worried that he'll leave me.

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't matter. Your mind went there. Why would you be concerned if you're not doing everything you can? If you're honest to God not able to make any more progress or be any more awesome, then if he's dissatisfied and leaves (highly unlikely, the way you describe it), then it's all on him and you wouldn't want to be with someone that shallow anyway.

You're worried about nothing. Use his hints for motivation, stop getting your feelings hurt by the truth, and get your ass in gear.

[–]il-est-ressusciteMRP APPROVED 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you were my wife I'd have been on your ass about getting fat looooooong before you packed on 60 pounds. So no I wouldn't be content.

[–]alphabeta49MRP-APPROVED 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love the cold hard truth. The fact is, her husband is dropping hints, and she's getting the message. And she's daring to come here and ask how she can be, or help him be, more comfortable. Honey, its called consequences. You pack on 60 lbs, you get to live with the fact that your husband doesn't like you much until you lose 60 lbs.

[–]Askingforafriendta 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

OK here's how to lose weight: drink nothing but water and coffee, eat nothing but lean fish, chicken, and vegetables. If he sees how serious you are and you TELL HIM your goal and why you're doing it, then he might keep you. But no matter what he says, don't stop until you're hot, because he'll lie to you to protect your feelings and say you don't have to.

[–]YoureAfuckingRobot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's some real world experience for you. I used to be in the situation your husband is in, aside from being a doctor and have no kids. I was with somebody for quite a while, and she (we) slowly let herself (oursleves) go. Eventually I did what your husband did, started getting in good shape, then encouraged her to. I even stopped buying treats, once made a comment asking about weight. Literally identical to what you said. The difference was that you are reacting positive (I was never rude or mean or anything but it was building inside me) and are trying to fix it. My SO didn't. She became angry at my progress and slowly inside began to blame me for her looks and then started to check out of the relationship. She too went to lawyer and found out the same info. In the end since she did nothing and became toxic to be around I left her. I hated doing it but she would not come around. If she had started to lose 1lb every 10 days and made an effort to improve or an effort to be a better partner I never would have left. Keep up what you are doing and your husband sounds like he won't go anywhere. If you do nothing then ya, you're fucked. Don't go to lawyers. When I found out she did that I lost it. I was improving while she made sure she would have money when I left. Spend that time getting better.

[–]AgainstTheHerdMarried 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Troll or not - any chick that sits and eats an entire pint of ice cream in one sitting is disgusting. No man of any worth finds that attractive.

To any ham beast reading this - Practice some self control for fucks sake. What the hell has this country come to where shoving food into your mouth - like some farm animal - is acceptable. I look around me on a daily basis and think a famine can't come our shores soon enough.

[–]irateMDMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I need advice beyond "don't be fat."

You suck at trolling. Fuck off.

[–]red_blue_and_hot 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sounds like you are on the right path. A pound every week to ten days is considered a healthy rate of weight loss, so just keep that up, and keep keeping him happy in the bedroom. Twenty months will pass by quickly, and is nothing compared to the decades I know you want with him. You can decide to tell him you are losing weight, or not, but I'm sure he'll notice way before you lose the whole 60 pounds, anyway.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's true..... I'll probably look at least decent after 30.

[–]Askingforafriendta 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

But you can't stop at "decent", because he damn sure won't stop exercising until he has his trophy wife back. This is a race and he's way ahead.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right, I just meant that I do remember men still stared at me almost as much, when I had gained just a bit (20 lbs or so). I started out pretty thin. My goal would be to get there again, though.

[–]Kosmoknots 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Be sure to read and study the /r/progresspics. There is a lot of great advice in there for weight loss.

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

I will answer your questions since I assume this will stay removed (and it really would not be fair to subject you to the locker room!)... EDIT: But who said Bogey was "fair")

If there was a way for me to be a “better” wife to make up for the fatness

Read --The Surrendered Wife

--First Kill all the Marriage counselors

--Fascinating Womanhood

Also, get in shape not just for your husband. Get in shape for YOU! This is your life. Your energy levels.

if he left, he’d be paying me over $3,000 a month in child care. I feel better that I wouldn’t have money troubles if he’d leave.

Which is why wayward wifery has been a DEATH PENALTY offense in almost every single viable society in human history but let me be the first to say that your chances of happiness and landing somebody better than a "doctor" are about 0 if you leave.

[–]PineleroMarried 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why would she assume she would get custody of the kids? That's inherently sexist, but AWALT for self-centered, materialistic, opportunistic women.

50/50 shared parenting and fair family courts. This is the only divorce risk mitigation for fathers who want to remain so after a divorce.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I did assume that. To be fair, he works long hours. He wouldn't be able to split them with me 50/50 without help from a nanny, or something.

Also, and while I can't be 100% certain of anything, I'm willing to bet he is very happy with me as a mother.

Do men who leave their wives because of weight issues, tend to punish them further by limiting their exposure to their kids? I really don't know about that at all....?

[–]PineleroMarried 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do men who leave their wives because of weight issues, tend to punish them further by limiting their exposure to their kids? I really don't know about that at all....?

To address your question - No. My comment about AWALT was about you; however, the rest about 50/50 was a general comment for the guys.

I would hope that the man you are married to (and yourself) are of better character than to weaponize children as instruments of revenge for a divorce.

[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

;)

[–]okkyle 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

You know damn well the answer to your question.

Here are the facts:

You're a 34 year old fat mom of two. Your SMV is on the decline and dropping fast

Your husband is a doctor (probably the highest status job of the traditional professions), you say he's fit and working out, and he's still in his 30's. Your husband is in his prime and chances are good that his SMV will increase

It's only natural that his SMV would leave yours behind, but with you as fat as you are, you're worlds below him now. Picture yourself at 21 years old dating a fat, zit-faced WOW player.

You did the smart thing, you snagged him while you still had your prime looks. You hopped off the CC early and felt like you were settling, but look how it's paid off. But the deal when you marry is this: He gets an attractive wife and mother to his children, You get a provider, protector. By getting fat and unattractive, you're breaching your end of the contract and he may decide to breach.

Think about it, this guy is a doctor, every hot young nurse, resident or, intern is going to have their eyes on him, especially if he's going to the gym like you say. What if he decides to open his own practice in a few years? He'll have even more status and then he'll be the boss, the owner. Chicks love that shit, he'll have the chance to hire a bunch of young cuties as his assistants/nurses, and they'll all want his dick.

He may be so beta that he's willing to stick by a fat wife even given all his alpha qualities, but why do you want to bank on that? We talk a lot on here about wives divorce-raping their husbands, but I've seen several alphas leave their wives once their kids are just a little bit older, marry their hot young assistant and start a new family all over. How do you like your chances as a fat, single mom who's pushing 40 back in the dating market?

That ring on his finger is not a life sentence, he can opt out.

Sounds like you're catching on to this before he's shown any signs of straying, so just shape up. Hit the gym and clean up your diet. Don't wait on him to hire a personal trainer, that's a cop-out.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

"Sounds like you're catching on to this before he's shown any signs of straying, so just shape up."

This is what I hope.

Also, and I hate to even say this, he is in the process of opening his own practice. I guess this makes my situation worse?

If I lose the weight, and it takes over a year and a half, I'll be almost 36-year-old. That's not horribly old. But I don't want to start over.

(BTW, we actually have three kids, not that it makes much of a difference in my circumstances.)

I don't want to live under the constant (real or imagined threat) of him leaving me for someone younger and better looking.

Should I talk to him and tell him I'm afraid of him leaving me before I get thin. Or will that lessen my chances of keeping him?

[–]Simpsondimsum 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

If you talk to him he will reassure you and you will lose your motivation

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ok....serious question here:

Would it be to my advantage or disadvantage to let him see other men flirt with me?

I do think that I undersold my looks a bit. I am very overweight, but I don't think many people would consider me repulsive. Let me scratch that, I don't think many people would consider me repulsive with my clothes on, (because naked is a much worse view.) I still dress nice and always look fashionable and put together. And my face is still young looking, no double chin or anything like that.

At this point, my best feature is probably my thick hair, which does get me compliments from both genders. When I was younger, I used to flick it behind my shoulders for attention. When I do this, (some, particularly a bit older,) men still do smile at me.

Playing games seems a bit lame. But do you think letting him see other men look at me would make a difference?

[–]Chump_No_More 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Men bond differently than women, our response to oxytocin sees to that... have you ever heard of 'wife googles'? It's a real thing and it gives you a bit of wiggle room to owning your shit and getting it together that men do not have the luxury of enjoying... so don't squander this opportunity.

Men are pretty simple in what we need...

We want a woman who is feminine, well-kept, submissive, respectfully and smart enough to 'take the conn' when we go off on 'away missions'.

We want a woman who is a princess in public and a whore in private. Enthusiasm is a prerequisite to all sex. My wife often tells me that "her body is my playground"... there is nothing more arousing than enthusiasm and I happily romp in her fun park whenever the opportunity 'arises', which is frequent.

TL, DR? Never send him out the door unless his belly's full and his balls are empty, and get your butt in gear.

[–]lionmenden 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is called dread. It can work. Unlikely to work for you. By your admission you will have a few old guys flirting with you, he has tons of young and attractive girls flirting with him.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

By older, I mean older than me, say 40-55+.

And true, he does have a lot of younger girls flirting with him.

I will say this though, he doesn't tend to judge other guys by appearance/age, and more so by career and other successes. So if a guy was flirting with me, he'd be much more bothered by it if it was say, the owner of a local business who happens to be 50-years-old, then if it was a super hot 25-year-old store clerk.

[–]weakandsensitive 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

you're fucking stupid.

men with options don't blame men for flirting with women. men with options watch receptive women and think of them as low status sluts.

you're a 5'3" 170 pound 34 year old mother of three. wake the fuck up to the reality of your situation. if you compete in a race that you can't win, you're going to fuck up your marriage a lot faster than gaining 60 pounds. at this point, you should be going out of your way to cherish his devotion because lets be honest who eats pints of ice cream at a time? Time to size up your competition and recognize that you're being treated incredibly well. It'd be stupid of you to go out of your way to fuck that up instead of showing appreciation.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, I do feel as though I'm being treated well.

From the start of this marriage, I've made an effort to prove myself invaluable. I'll admit, I'm a bit calculating, and perhaps more manipulative than your average woman. The reason I learned to cook well, the reason I took over every single responsibility so that my husband could focus on his job, and the reason I've never asked him to any menial child-related task, the reason I never EVER nag, the reason I'm always nice to him, the reason I try to please him in bed, is not JUST because I love him. I'd say it's a third because I love my husband, a third because I like succeeding in life, and therefore I want to be doing a good job at being a wife, and a third because I want to absolutely ensure that I'm invaluable to my husband.

When other men complain their wives nag, he won't ever be able to join in. When other men complain about their wives' homemaking skills, mothering skills, etc., he'll have nothing to say. When other men say they're not getting any in the bedroom, I hope it won't say anything at all, but if he did, it would be straight up bragging!

I completely agree that the pint of ice cream thing is disgusting. I just looked up the calorie count of a pint of vanilla, and it's over 550 calories. That's way too much to spend on junk food, even if occasional.

But yeah, I fucked up about the weight thing. BIG time. I've been trying to reflect WHY I let this happen. I'm going to type it out, just for insight for the men on here who would care to read. It may shed light on their wives, or it may not.

But here goes:Self-reflection (done today) on reasons why I gained weight. 1- The number one reason is absolutely that I felt secure in the relationship, and didn't see the weight as a threat, until recently.

2-I was so used to being good-looking, that it was almost inconceivable to me that I could ever be anything other than attractive.

3-Pregnancies/slower metabolism

4-I felt both men and women responded better to me. Men stared less, and women were more comfortable around me.

5-I'm not the one who has to look at myself. I would usually ignore the fact that I'd gained weight. When looking in the mirror straight on, I look fine. In reality, walking about from multiple angles, I don't look very good.

Now, you can go ahead and curse at me and my "excuses," but I think that self-reflection, and finding out the "why" you did something, can help prevent you from doing it again. I intend to turn my "why I did its," into "why I'm never doing it again." So it's to my benefit to have reflected on this. I wrote it down, for anyone interested. Some things may apply to other wives.

[–]weakandsensitive 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh, I don't see those as excuses. I so that as the logical progression of your life. An excuse would be "well... that's how it's been which is why this is so hard nooowwwwwwww"

[–]Simpsondimsum 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

you're lying to yourself. You've forgotten HOW MUCH HOTTER you look skinny. Nothing will change that I am afraid. Once you lose your first ten pounds you will realize you were crazy to think your current weight is OK. I once had your stats and looking back I am embarrassed that I thought that that could compete with what I look like at my fittest. Do not try to make him jealous by "having other men flirt with you. it doesnt work like that for men. Make him jealous BY LOSING WEIGHT

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Some golden Red Pill examples in this post which is why I am not convinced this is a Troll.

If things are critical, I want to act more drastically. But I’m not sure if things are critical or not.

Women will do precisely what you let them. If he is not willing to put up with a fat wife she will lose weight- but only so much as is "critical."

Woman bases her entire self worth on man's view of her. Tons of Red Pill lessons!

Women do flirt with him sometimes, especially single women who know he's a doctor. I’m scared!

We still sleep together, probably 5 times a week.

HAAHAHHA! But of course you are darling!

[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I was on the fence. I think she's a woman. I don't know if she's a troll. But I do think that it's mostly validation seeking. Tons of explanation, excuses, and anecdotes but very little personal responsibility. I especially think she's a woman because she wants us to be her emotional tampon.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not even sure why someone is questioning my gender? Yes, I am a woman.

No, I want honesty.

As for responsibility... you mean for getting fat? He never seemed to care, until recently. Being fat was working for me, in that my female friends seemed to like me more. I fit in better than ever. And it's nice to feel invisible. I stood out most of my life. Up until recently, I saw no incentive to get thinner. I never even tried. So yeah, that's my fault, I suppose.

[–]Askingforafriendta 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's always cared but you've just started to notice he cares. Your female friends liked you more because they always saw you as a threat and were jealous. Now that your fat, he's gotten desperate and made it obvious that if you don't do something, he'll have to leave.

[–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess you're right. He probably didn't bring up my fatness, because he had gotten out of shape too (at the time).

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not even sure why someone is questions my gender?

A large portion of our new posters are trolls (females and manginas) from unfriendly subreddits making up stories and trying to play with us. We ban them as fast as we can but it is like playing wack a mole. The initial thought on your post was this was a false flag operation to trap us into being "mean" so we could be accused of "fat shaming."

[–]lady_bakerRed Pill Wife 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I believe her. The manosphere was 90% of what drove my weight loss. And submission.

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    [–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR[M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't know where this is going, but be respectful. Preaching will get you banned. You've been warned.

    [–]lady_bakerRed Pill Wife 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I lost 50lbs after our 3rd child (5'6", ~185 to ~135.)

    reddit.com/r/fatlogic

    Seriously, hang out in fatlogic. It will blow up all of the stupid obstacles that are keeping you from maintaining a 500 calorie per day deficit.

    As for your marriage, lose that weight first. It is going to reignite some heat. And stop planning for if he leaves. That shit is fine and even necessary for the men, but we are not the same.:

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I don't know that things have died down in the bedroom yet.

    But he recently got in shape, and now seems to want me to also. I'm willing. But now I'm very scared for my marriage.

    [–]chaosmech 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The fact that he wants you to get in shape means you don't have cause for worry... yet. Assuming, that is, you follow his lead and actually lose the weight.

    If he was getting in shape and didn't care whether you did or not, you'd have cause to be very scared for your marriage. Right now, it's obvious he has interest in you. In helping you become the woman he was once attracted to. That's a good sign for you. Don't let it pass you by, or he'll stop caring. And as mentioned previously, that's very bad news for you.

    You say you're willing. Good! Now turn that will into weight-loss.

    [–]Shubrook 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you have the self awareness to google your problems and look for solutions, you're already miles ahead of the pack.

    3 lbs a month is a lot. You should be proud of your accomplishment.

    If he sees that you are putting sustained effort into the relationship (and effort into yourself) you will probably notice a big difference in his attitudes.

    You are thinking about this like a wife: "what are his desires and how do I meet them?" which is good, but try also thinking about it as if you were his business partner:

    Think about everything he has done to improve himself (get his MD etc.) and think about how hard he works to provide for your kids. Are you matching his self improvement? Are you matching his effort for the family?

    You're doing great. Asking the right questions and taking the right actions. keep it up.

    [–]redrecycledcarbon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is a lot of effort for a troll.

    [–]smidevaek 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    what do you think I should do? I’m going to keep going to the gym, and I’m going to keep dieting, despite the slow weight loss.

    That's all it sounds like you need to do.

    It sounds like your biggest problem is accepting the notion that being 60 lbs overweight really can break an otherwise good marriage apart. It's not politically correct, and most people around you would probably try to convince you otherwise (so don't talk about it with them), but the fact is that becoming fat is akin to becoming ugly. It's just as if your husband were to become unemployed and poor - that's not what you signed up for when you got married. Neither is a fat wife what he signed up for.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Wow, nail on the head there!

    If my husband would quit his job and lay around on the couch....I won't even go there! But yeah, you're 100% right.

    [–]smidevaek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Have you seen this video?

    Being fat = having a nail stuck in your forehead. Don't worry so much about what else you should do besides lose weight or how you should talk to him about your intention to lose weight. Just remove the nail. Just lose weight.

    [–]DanG3 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Such a waste!

    Are you betting that he's not crazy/crafty/wealthy enough to be getting some hot eye candy and variety on the side?

    Do you think that "when it counts" you can just drop the 60 lbs and hit the market again to find a new man? Or, are you saying you want to live with cats after he's gone?

    If I were you (or you were my wife) I'd start looking at HOW and WHAT you eat - stop eating poison and shit (80%) and get smart about how you exercise (20%). Here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/welcome-to-marks-daily-apple/#axzz4Bg1Wl4Xm

    Get his book:
    https://www.primalblueprint.com

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I do not think he's getting some on the side, as I haven't seen any change in frequency in sex with me.... but perhaps I'm missing something?

    Do I think I can drop the weight and hit the market again? Well, I am attractive. I suppose, as someone pointed out, I wouldn't have to lose the full 60 pounds to look good again.

    [–]DanG3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He could very well be getting MORE and BETTER on the side, as well as telling you what you want to hear while keeping frequency up - all to negate any suspicions you may have. My sense is, based on what your hamster is writing, your gut is telling you that something is up.

    "I don't want to live under the constant (real or imagined threat) of him leaving me for someone younger and better lookin."

    As I told my wife of 26 years (after getting my shit together for 4 years - all the while trying to get her to get on the train), "GOOD, FANTASTIC, GREAT! It's about time! Now YOU need to up your Girl Game." Maybe your Dr. H is non-verbally "telling" you the same thing. You should listen!

    We call this "Dread." Without instutionalized marriage all "marriages" would be naturally governed by the need to attract the spouse - the Dread of them leaving.

    "Do I think I can drop the weight and hit the market again? Well, I am attractive. I suppose, as someone pointed out, I wouldn't have to lose the full 60 pounds to look good again."

    No, you can't. (Well, you could if you like getting pumped and dumped, over and over.) No man that you would want would want you with 3 kids - no matter how hot you are. Any Man of value/worth can get younger, hotter and tighter without the baggage.

    How do you keep him while you are upping your game? IMO, "talking about it" is NOT the way - at least not lengthy discussions. Action and demonstrated change will speak volumes.

    And, if you discover/conclude that he is getting some on the side, you should ask YOURSELF some serious questions about who ELSE "failed to remain faithful."

    ETA, you are doing very well "taking it" in this locker room! Ultimately if you hang in, you will find the truth here to be the solution to your problem - guaranteed.

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

    But sincerely, I’m already being the best wife I can be.

    Well, you got us - you are the best you can possibly be and you can't do anything at all differently or better.

    So... you want a hug or something?

    You already decided you can't do anything better... so why bother right?

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

    I guess my ultimate question, is what do I need to do to keep him while I lose this weight?

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Communicate

    [–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Be nice. She doesn't know you are being sarcastic.

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    actually, I was quite serious.

    Not sure if she communicated her concern to her hubby.

    [–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Start to finish blow jobs. Talk will only annoy him, because she will emote

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Yeah, I noticed this years ago. The talk thing, I mean.

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Blowjobs are also communication. I'm half serious.

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    seriously though...

    In the meantime - show him effort to loose the weight.

    It MAY be worthwhile to let him know that you are doing X to loose weight (for gods sake don't say that its in order to keep him).

    Then show him that you are doing it... make healthy meals for both of you, sweat your ass off at the gym, etc.

    Most men will go a thousand miles for a woman they can see is trying.

    Edit : which are you?

    this helps way more than BMI or anything else -

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well, my stomach is easily as fat as the 40% person, although you can tell she's older than me and her skin is starting to get look old. But my legs/butt/hips, are just a bit fatter than the 30%. Weight doesn't go to my lower body as much. My arms/breasts are probably the 35% person. I'm "apple" versus "pear" shaped, and carry my weight more in the stomach, than my lower body.

    [–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR - IRC MOD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What? I'm disappointed.

    [–]over60_stupid_lonerRP S.O.B. 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Well u/wife4lifeihope your post is a shit show to me.

    ..after sex, I said ….“I’m sorry I got so fat.” He replied with, “If you keep doing what you do in the bedroom, you can do whatever the hell you like outside of it.” I was relieved by his comment/joke, but afraid it was only made in the afterglow of good sex.

    Didn't you notice he didn't answer your question about fat? You got gamed.

    I want the man I’ve invested over 12 years of memories with, to stick with me and love only me.

    Pour another glass of wine and whine some more please (patent pending)….I have heard this oneitis statement from so many men on this sub. They say it because they let themselves become brow beat, fat, lazy unattractive men manginas. And here you are doing the female version of "love me no matter what" even though I am not taking care of myself, and, considering divorcing rather than do that which attracted this man to you in the first place.

    Look, I was doing the wife twice daily during the week and 3 times daily on the weekend in my forties. Deep inside you are concerned because you FEELZ that he is cheating. You mention so many rationalizations to keep yourself away from even considering that he might be cheating. DAH, fucking DAH!

    I’m already being the best wife I can be

    If you were a man posting here, I would call you a faggot, a pussy. I would tell you to "man up" and take responsibility for yourself. Quit being a lazy self deluding pussy and get to work. If your only reason to take care of yourself is to keep HIM, you are stupid stupid stupid. Your health and your self esteem should be your priority. Sixty pounds overweight, bitch you are a heart attack waiting for a stretcher. Keep it up and you will be alone fat unhealthy and unhappy.

    So here's the bottom line. If you want to save your marriage, the word slut needs to be erased from your mind. Good sweaty slutty sex that you can enjoy with your man will keep a lid on things for now. AND you need to take responsibility for you, then you can quit worrying about him.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Yeah, I get you.

    I realize I've been stupid for thinking (pretending?) my weight gain didn't matter. I'm dieting now. I am upping my sex game. I came on here because this group is dead honest, and I wanted to see if there's anything else I can do, specifically until the weight comes off.

    As for the sex thing, I must have subconsciously figured this out, as I've been upping my game for the past few years.

    I gained 60 pounds since marriage... a quick BMI (for whatever that's worth or isn't worth,) puts me at about 30 pounds overweight. But I want to lose the 60, to be at what I used to be. MY BMI would be 19.5 if I lose the full 60.

    As for the I want my husband "to stick with me and love only me," well that's just the truth of any married woman who loves/wants to keep her husband. I'm always going to chose monogamy. If my husband would need a threesome, open marriage, or has cheated, I'd chose to let him go. I'd be happier single, than in that situation. (So here's to hoping I'm fixing things in time to prevent any of that!)

    [–]over60_stupid_lonerRP S.O.B. 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I want my husband "to stick with me and love only me

    You missed my point here. Chosing monogamy, no problem. Assuming your husband has an OBLIGATION to chose only you, if you chose to be lazy, is the problem I was trying to point out. I was also trying to say that men do the same thing; expect a woman to stick with them even when they are not making the effort.

    Lastly, you seem to actually be getting what you are being advised here. Almost to a man here, has been in the situation of losing the attraction of their mates. The beatings will continue until something improves. Best.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I was just saying that if he would come to me, needing to sleep with someone else, or having already done so, I'd be over it. I know that sounds harsh, but I wouldn't be begging for him to stay or trying to work it out.

    It's not my personality to want another women in our relationship, and I'm not willing to reconsider.

    Whether or not I have made choices that cause or may cause him to be unfaithful, my response would be to end it.

    Having said all that, I'm going to try, especially from now on, to prevent him from straying. But if it happens, my world has not ended or anything. I'm just going to have to go in a different direction than what would have been my first choice.

    [–]over60_stupid_lonerRP S.O.B. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Whether or not I have made choices that cause or may cause him to be unfaithful, my response would be to end it.

    I understand and respect your choices.

    So it is a good thing that he didn't decide that your weight gain was a reason for him to end the marriage, as that could have been one of his choices. But if he chose to stay and cheat, then it would end the marriage anyway, by you. Makes your choices have a lot of downsides and offer him limited options. Are you setting him up to fail you? Where divorce is more likely than a long term diet change? Just some thoughts for you to consider. We all have our imperfections. I have more than most.

    [–]smidevaek 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Curious about your stance on monogamy, because to me it doesn't fit with your relatively cynical overall attitude.

    It's not my personality to want another women in our relationship

    It sounds like you're envisioning a mistress who would compete for his attention, but what if he simply had one-night stands? Say he went on a trip to another part of the country, met a random woman at a bar, slept with her, and never saw her again or gave her another thought. Let's say he did it once or twice a year. Would you really give up your marriage over that? Why?

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I would give it up, over straying once or twice a year, even if he said I could do the same. (That would probably be even more insulting, actually.)

    A few years ago, I read a post where a women was talking about how devastating her first and only threesome was. She watched her husband with another woman and was revolted, and then consequently lost interest in sex with him. When I read it, I knew, beyond doubt, that's how I'd feel too. I know I'd lose interest in him sexually, that I'd have to fake desire for him from then on. And it's not worth faking it, especially potentially for the rest of my life.

    I know that many men and to much lesser extent women, would not look at their own relationship as "less" if others were involved sexually. But I most definitely would. And I don't have a problem with that about me, so it's not something I'd try to work on changing.

    I suppose monogamy is one of the top things I desire in a relationship, and having to compromise one of a person's top needs, compromises the entire relationship. So to me, it's just plain not work it.

    [–]DanG3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm very impressed with your introspection. It's very unusual to see a woman get past (most of) her/the hamster screaming in her ears, especially related to the societally imposed entitlement conditioning. And, you are doing a great job of taking it on the chin here in the locker room. However, regarding ... "Im going to try ... to keep him from straying ... But, ... I'm just going to have to go in a different direction than what would have been my first choice."

    I would advise that you NOT give yourself this safety net or out. Rather, that you resolve that you MUST fight to do whatever you have to keep him - lose the weight, compete, forgive, etc. That is the natural and primal way. That's the "no way out" thinking that is going to motivate you the best toward your goal AND utimatey TRUELY get his attention and RESPECT. (I'm speaking from experience.) It sounds like he's worth it - or would you be ok with another woman having him?

    [–]BetaFeelz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    /r/fitness, /r/xxfitness, lift heavy weights, track all of your calories with MyFitnessPal, eat enough to lose 1-2 lbs per week, be consistent and patient.

    If you are 60 lbs overweight it should take you a year to get back to MILF status. Do it!

    [–]alorianMarried 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lose weight asap.

    It's important. Your husband will be less and less attracted to you. You'll become the "fat friend" and your social status will continue to slip. You'll feel worse about yourself. You'll feel worse in general because you're fat.

    I'm not a doctor, but you should listen to me anyway. Eat a 1500 calorie max diet (I assume you're not doing strenuous exercise). Go for 1200 if you have any measure of self control. Lose those pounds and your life will get better. Or be a lazy fatty and hope your husband and friends won't care (they will, but you can always delude yourself)

    [–]WhiteTrashKiller 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't listen to diet infomercials. Or calorie restrictions. If you starve yourself, your body will store more fat.. You want to force your body into choosing to burn your fat reserves. If you give your body a rock to eat(protein) and it has to choose a fuel source to break down for energy it will choose the easiest thing to break down and that is fat.....

    Maintaing a healthy weight is 90% diet. You could easily shave 2lbs a week. Water weighs a lot 8lbs a gallon. I am sure you are carrying around a lot of extra water.

    Sodium makes you retain water, so you look bloated with a high sodium diet(normal for americans nowadays). You need to drink a lot of water, it will actually help you push the sodium out and excess fluid with it.

    You should be matching your lean body weight in (g) for protein. @ 5'3" healthy for a woman is between 107-140lbs. so eat 140 grams of protein a day. Keep your carbs below 50(g) a day and you will stay in ketosis(body burning fat instead of carbs). 65-75(g) of fat(coconut or light olive oil).

    No sugar, no aspertame(fake sugar is worse than refined sugar). If you drink coffee make it black. No breads whatsoever, no pastas, I would say no rice either until you start seeing results first. Read up on slow digesting carbs. 1 slice of bread is at least 13 grams of carbs and you will most assuredly go over your allotment just having a sandwich.

    If you want something sweet use peanut butter. Low in carbs, has fats for energy, it is an amazing food source.

    My wife after her 3rd child did not lose much weight at all. Even after following this regimen it didn't show any results until after the 3rd month where the weight fell off. 5 months post baby she weighed less than her wedding day.

    Meat, veggies. The greener the veggie the better. If you can eat like this and maintain it, I mean really maintain it. You could peel off 25lbs in 3 or 4 months. Once that happens your new diet won't feel much like a diet as opposed to a lifestyle.

    I cannot go into whether your husband loves you or not. I don't know him. The question is do you love him? Do you love him so much that you would sacrifice your simple pleasures in life to make yourself more appealing to him.

    Relationships suck, they are a full time job. Probably even worse because in your real full time job there isn't somebody right behind you looking to take your gig like your relationship.....

    HTH! Read up on ketosis, low carb foods, benefits of fiber and drink lots of water.

    "Now get out of here before the men start sniping you.."

    [–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Loll, nu-males are funny. You're a fat fuck, stop being a fat fuck, put the cookie down, pick up a weight and a skipping rope, repeat until attractive.

    As for your girl brain, Ask the women how to work that magic box.

    can i have my twitter ban now?

    [–]CountpudyoolaMarried- MRP MODERATOR 0ポイント1ポイント  (14子コメント)

    Just a healthy reminder to everyone about Poe's law.

    Anyway:

    Why are you here on a men's help forum?

    You'd be better served in

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

    I have now learned Poe's Law

    thanks

    [–]sexyshoulderdevil75% Liquid Sarcasm 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

    According to my flair, I am Poe's law.

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

    According to my "other" flair, I am a Scottish gay dude....

    Flair reminds me of waiting

    [–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Too bad OP today took your thunder with his new flair...

    though yours rolls off the tongue better

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

    its kind of pointless to call a woman a faggot.

    [–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

    It's never pointless to call anyone a faggot. Now you shut your whore mouth with that nonsense!

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I don't get paid enough to be a whore. I am just an empowered slut and proud of it :-)

    [–]il-est-ressusciteMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    yougogurlitsyourbodynoshame

    [–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Look at you, last year you thought computers were magic boxes, now you're creating dank memes.

    I feel a little tear coming on

    [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lesson learned :

    I have to stop reading anything from you while drinking coffee

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Because, I don't want people to be nice to me. I want honesty. Overall, my husband seems a lot more "Alpha" than "Beta."

    I'm not looking for dieting advice. I'm looking to see how desperate my situation is. Is there something I can do to ensure this won't fall apart before the weight comes off?

    [–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't want people to be nice to me

    Well you came to the right place :)

    Is there something I can do to ensure this won't fall apart before the weight comes off?

    Be agreeable, kind, helpful, and happy.

    [–]happilymarried30yrs 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Try to get up to 1-2 pounds lost per week. That's a very healthy decline without hurting your body. Cut out all sugar. Cut out all soda/pop. Limit alcohol to 1-2 servings per week maximum. Stop putting sugar/milk/cream in coffee. Eat the same meal as your husband, but only take 70-80% of his. Do not go get 2nds even if he does. If you're still hungry, that's too bad. Being hungry is going to be the cost of saving your marriage. Would you rather be hungry and married to a wonderful doctor or single and fat? Your choice.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

    I'm definitely chosing to lose the fat.

    Is there some strategy to making this marriage work beyond getting thin again.....should I try to talk to him about how he feels about me being fat? Should I apologize for getting fat? Should I lose it in secret?

    [–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Should I lose it in secret?

    If you were a man the advice would be to absolutely not talk about it. Men DO. Women talk.

    As a woman, I wouldn't necessarily be shy about happily bragging about how much weight you lost last week. Hubby is likely to be your biggest cheerleader.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks, very helpful.

    He knows I like praise. And I think he feels good about himself when he praises me, and in turn I'm very happy/loving towards him.

    [–]happilymarried30yrs 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    TRP and marriedTRP teaches men to observe the ACTIONS from women, not the words. So, talking about how you feel, apologizing or any other kind of discussion is not needed. Simply lose the weight. Don't tell him you're GOING To do it, because studies show that this actually prevents you from going through with it. Only your actions matter

    TLDR: silence your hamster, turn off your brain, stop thinking about it, and JUST DO IT.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What if I just "report in," and announce every month or so that I lost X number of pounds? Yet, I don't try to talk about my feeling about it, or make him comment?

    [–]irateMDMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What if I just "report in," and announce every month or so that I lost X number of pounds?

    That would make it less likely for him to worry that you might be cheating. If he thinks you're "doing it for him" then he's less likely to think that you've found someone new.
     
    That being said, doing all this solely because you want to keep him can easily lead to resentment. Do it because you want to be healthy and attractive, not because you are hoping to provoke a particular response. Give of yourself because it's meaningful and satisfying, not because of a covert contract.

    [–]smidevaek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I suggest waiting until he comments on your weight loss. If he comments on the dietary choices or workout decisions you are making, just shrug it off and say that's what you are in the mood for, because you haven't proven your commitment to losing weight just by making such choices a few times. The proof will be visible results, and when he notices those that's the time to tell him that you are committed to losing weight and looking good for him again, because then he can be truly delighted. If you have the conversation while you still haven't produced a visible result that he finds worth noticing then he will be merely hopeful of seeing you lose weight eventually. So I suggest being secretly committed and shrugging off any comments about your changed behavior until he remarks on the results.

    [–]Jessie_JamesMarried 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    My wife and I have an agreement - if either of us gets fat we say so, and work on it.

    Should I apologize for getting fat?

    Perhaps you should acknowledge you are aware of the issue, and let him know that you are taking steps to remedy it.

    Should I lose it in secret?

    I believe it's better to share goals with other people and track them in a measurable manner.

    For me, I can drop weight fairly easily by not drinking soda or eating ice cream. I simply stop buying it, and if my wife brings it home I tell her not to do that again, and I let it sit and give it to the kids in small increments (but not soda).

    Weight gain can also be a sign of depression. You may want to talk to a therapist to investigate any deeper issues you may have that are unresolved or unrecognized.

    Also, as your husband is a doctor, he may be able to suggest a dietician or other professional who can provide guidance that works for you.

    Finally, I would like to mention something - your husband has been giving you hints, and you should take heed. Your body can serve you well if you take care of it, and that will allow you to take care of your family as well. My mother was overweight for many years and finally died as a direct result. I was 21 years old. Her death was at such a formative time in my life I felt very lost, and angry she let that happen to her. Please keep in mind that even with no "symptoms" of being overweight, something can go wrong and you will only hurt your family.

    [–]Sunshine12eFeemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think that you shouldn't say anything because that will probably only annoy him and make you seem anxious and clingy. You had 3 kids, gaining weight is expected. It is not healthy to lose a lot overnight, so you don't want to lose it in secret either. Personally, if he sees you making a huge effort (not only in losing weight, but just in becoming healthier in general), that is probably the best thing to do. Then, he will only see your confidence and determination. If he is going to start his own practice, then he will be too busy to want to wander, so you have time. Take him up on the offer of a personal trainer.

    [–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You had 3 kids, gaining weight is expected. It is not healthy to lose a lot overnight

    who told you this? /u/lady_baker would kick your ass for your nonsensical statement

    [–]FistFullOfBitches 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    If your husband says to you "you can do whatever the hell you like" after you gained 60 lbs then he's lying through his teeth.

    He's afraid that if he confronts you directly, you'll either go ballistic or he'll be killing the sexual golden goose. Why would he be honest and direct if he feels that way?

    There's most likely a feeling of loss, being cheated out of a hot wife, and some lurking resentment buried in him. But he's afraid of disturbing the status quo. He's likely smart enough to know how badly he can get fucked over financially if you get upset enough with his honest thoughts on the matter and walk out, that he'll keep his mouth shut.

    Probably the only thing offsetting all of this is your claim that you're draining his balls on a regular basis. (Although he's probably thinking about some other, hotter woman while doing it). Nothing about this spells healthy marriage. Eventually this resentment will build up and result in all kinds of further damage.

    So how critical is this? There's enough fuel in the tank for a nice big explosion. Only question is, will there be a big enough spark in the near future to get it to blow before you get your mindset and health under control.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    "If your husband says to you "you can do whatever the hell you like" after you gained 60 lbs then he's lying through his teeth. He's afraid that if he confronts you directly, you'll either go ballistic or he'll be killing the sexual golden goose. Why would he be honest and direct if he feels that way?"

    Yeah, I'm not proud about this. BUT, if he said he was no longer attracted to me, I'd cry for days. I'd probably pretend to forgive him for the sake of our marriage, but deep down, I'd resent it until the day I died. And as for sex.... I would still want to, but not really sure if I'd be able to handle it emotionally.

    I can definitely see why he hasn't told me directly to lose weight now. The same for not telling me he's not attracted to me, although I'm sure his attraction hasn't sunk to zero yet.

    Also, and maybe this was subconscious to make up for the weight gain, but I've been upping my sex game over the past few years. He made the comment "you can do whatever the hell you like," after I let him, excuse my frankness, in the "backdoor."

    [–]FistFullOfBitches 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    and maybe this was subconscious to make up for the weight gain

    The fact that you state this makes it a little bit more than subconscious. You're playing a little game of sexual calculus: is 30 lbs worth anal? Do I need to do a threesome if I gain 30 more? Another 30 will I have to step it up to twice a day to keep the attraction up? Sex to a guy can be very, very powerful, and yeah, it can paper over some big cracks. But ultimately you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. You're taking a second job to pay interest on your credit cards debt but never attacking the principal. However you want to phrase it. When the right answer is to be skillful in ALL ways: sexually amazing, physically attractive, and pleasant to be with in general.

    You talk about how you'd cry and be hurt forever if he said he was less than attracted. Well, you can't control what he feels or what he says so that's a risk you'll have to live with. The good news is that by getting yourself in order, which IS 100% under your control, you can significantly reduce the probability of that outcome. And to boot, reduce your stress, have more enegry, feel better about yourself and your marriage too.

    And by the way, if your friends accept you more for being fat, then they're shitty friends. Be careful who you let into your life - their habits will corrupt you over time.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Thanks for the overall advice. I feel more motivated than before I posted on here.

    And I feel like I've been able to see more of the "big picture" than before.

    So it's been worth it.

    [–]Cam_Winston21 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I gotta admit, I'd be interested in finding out in the future (a) if you made any changes based upon the information here, and if so what changes; (b) how well they worked for you; (c) Yes, your weight loss progress. You could be an example for many others down the road.

    [–]LamaniteMotorcyles 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    May be a troll, may not be, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Your husband may be concerned for your health.

    My wife was petite when we married. She also gained with every pregnancy and now averages 40 pounds heavier than when we married.

    It use to really bother her. I don't think I noticed. That being said if she at 5'1" reached 170 pounds then I would be after her to get checked out by our family physician and to lose weight because at this point I would be very concerned for her health.

    [–]screechhater 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You sound like a good person and you want to make your marriage work. That's great. Remember this, there are a lot of young beautiful nurses wanting your husbands attention. Don't give him any reason to give it to them

    If anything lose the weight for you. And, tell him to kiss your ass the next time you eat a pint of ice cream and instead of a bitchy nasty come back, remind him to filter the thoughts before they come out of the pie hole.

    My wife is turning 50 and men still turn their heads even with her being 60 lbs over after three kids and menopause. She commented tonight how well she is doing on her diet. She is doing it for her.

    You do it for you. If he bears off course them you are ready to look good for the next man. Can't imagine this ? I can I work at a lot of hospitals and eaycj young things turn up the heat on docs all the time.

    [–]nomemesplease 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    yeah. lose weight lady. let's keep it real you're not the best version of yourself right now and that's what you should strive to be mentaly and physically.

    From what i'm thinking - a doctor doesn't have a hard time finding new ass. If he's going to the gym he's thinking about his looks and expects the same of you - and can I be real? You don't have a job, get off the couch, put down the fork. whatever works.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I do have a part time job and a master's degree in elementary education. I just don't know if it's too relevant to the whole subject. My job doesn't make much after I pay the babysitters. I work for the local school district in the mornings, tutoring Kindergarteners who aren't making their progress goals. It makes 1/2 of a teacher's salary. If I needed to, I could move to full time in the district. My pay would only be about $45,000, though.

    [–]nomemesplease 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah that's not at all the point. But I guess it's good you have a job?

    [–]SexistFlyingPig 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    "So, anyway, I’ve started to diet. I’ve cut back calories, but have only been losing a pound every 10 days or so. At a rate of 3 pounds a month, it will take me 20 months to lose this weight."

    This is a fantastic rate of weight loss. You might be able to prevent the very common yo-yo of your weight if you do this. How long did it take you to gain the weight? 20 months is NOTHING for getting to a target weight if you've let yourself go for a while (and 5'3" at 170lbs means you've let yourself go.)

    You're moving in the right direction. Yes, your weight matters, but it's much more about the direction (losing weight instead of gaining it) rather than the speed at which you are losing it.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I gained about 50 lbs with each pregnancy, and lost about 30 of it each time. So I was left about 20 lbs heavier after each baby. I would have been happy with our two sons, but my husband wanted to try for a daughter. (We got one! And besides, I can't imagine not having her now.) Our youngest is two-years-old.

    [–]BlackKnightofthePill 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

    If you're not a troll then it's good that you're concerned about this.

    If you think that with everything you say you're doing right you shouldn't have to look good, you're wrong.

    If you want to keep him, you gotta look good. Unless he's a little bitch then maybe you could keep him anyway, but neither of you would be happy.

    First, and this is the same I tell guys, the working out is for you. You say you don't really care about the make attention. Do you care about your health. 60 pounds overweight is not healthy.

    Second, you gotta get your hurt fee-fees under control. Your feelings are hurting because it's striking a chord, not because he's being mean. Remove the reason why it's striking a chord.

    Third, what diet are you using and how are you working out? The world is full of shitty diets that don't really help. Consider /r/keto, if you do that properly it will be hard to not lose weight quickly. What kind of workout are you doing? If you're going to the same thing the other fat moms are going to, your doing it wrong. You don't need a self-congratulatory social club. Lift free weights. It's a myth of you're concerned about bulking up and looking manly. Or, alternatively, swallow your pride and take your husband up on his offer of a personal trainer.

    Fourth, check out /r/redpillwomen and /r/redpillwives and /r/askrpw. Those communities will be helpful to you.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I'm not looking for dieting advice, more of advice for keeping him until the diet works.

    But if you want to know, I've been going to the gym daily. (No, haven't been doing weights. You've made me think, though.) I also go on a walk with the kids in the evening.

    I've been counting calories, and eating 1,200 a day. I've made it a "rule" not to eat past 6 p.m.

    Despite losing only a few pounds a month, I do look significantly more toned than I used to.

    [–]BlackKnightofthePill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Dieting was only one of the things I mentioned.

    But, you don't really get to dictate how people respond. Dieting was part of your topic. And it's important to your question because what you're doing is going to be really slow and there are faster ways, which will mean you have to "keep him" as you say for less time before you're back in shape.

    [–]irateMDMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    haven't been doing weights

    It's probably even more important for women to do weight bearing exercise than it is for men. You're young enough that you can still build some bone density. It's also the easiest way to lose body fat, especially the big compound movements. You will not get bulky.

    [–]smidevaek 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Unless you're extremely short, you're kidding yourself that you're only averaging 1,200 calories a day. If you're only losing a few pounds a month, you're certainly averaging more than that. Browse /r/fatlogic to dispel your illusions and speed up your weight gain.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I'm 5'3''. So I'm just a little short.

    I've been keeping track of calories under the "Health" app that came with my iPhone.

    I realize you already know this. But it is "easier" for men to lose weight than women. I am probably losing more than 3 pounds of fat though, its just that 3 pounds are reflected on the scale.

    Thanks for the tip. I'll check out that fatlogic.

    [–]FistFullOfBitches 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You know, you've said a couple of times here that you wanted honesty. OK...

    But it is "easier" for men to lose weight than women.

    This is just you making up some kind of gay excuse to make yourself feel better about your results. And to give yourself an "out" in case "it's too hard, can I quit now, mommy?"

    I am probably losing more than 3 pounds of fat though, its just that 3 pounds are reflected on the scale.

    Yeah, I'm rich and have a gold plated private helicopter. It's just that the bank balance doesn't reflect it accurately, and the credit card bills have out of date information, and the lottery I won just isn't paying out to me even though I'm a millionaire.

    If you keep lying to yourself and making excuses, how well do you think your life is going to turn out?

    [–]lionmenden 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You probably need to lose 40 lbs, not for your husband or marriage, but so you can live to see your kids get married and get to meet your grandkids and great grandkids.

    You're fat because you eat crappy food. If you eat crappy food, your kids and husband eat crappy food, too. Stop eating crappy food. Eat real food. Don't worry about losing weight or how long it will take, worry about eating real food staring today.

    [–]weakandsensitive 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sincere effort matters. Don't be a lazy useless cunt.

    Oh yeah, remember that if you get cheated no, it's probably your own fault. Sure, it'll be easier to blame him for breaking your vows, but if you weren't a fat ham beast that he didn't care to impress, you get some credit for that too. (Same advice goes to guys - if the husband is a useless sack of shit the wife didn't care about, what else should he expect?)

    However, if it's easier to lie to yourself and blame him for fucking someone young, hot, and attractive, by all means.

    [–]FalkorD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You sound like a pretty ideal wife other than the weight thing. All you really need to do is adjust your diet and have your husband get that trainer. From what you described he still is in love with you despite the weight so the mere fact you are working on it will keep him around until you've fixed your weight issue.

    [–]irateMDMRP APPROVED -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

    [–]sexyshoulderdevil75% Liquid Sarcasm 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I don't man... As sarcastic as I am, for some reason I tend to believe people more than I should on the internet. Projection on my part perhaps. That being said, she seems like she might be legit...

    [–]irateMDMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I think it's either embellished, modified, or fabricated. I wonder if she's really a woman whose husband found the red pill and she's trying to understand what it's about, like vampiresquidina did last year.

    [–]il-est-ressusciteMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    it's either embellished, modified, or fabricated

    Agree. Too neat, too complete. Real people with real problems seem to sound much sloppier.

    [–]irateMDMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Too neat, too complete

    Especially the claim of having read the sidebar books. Aside from the EC's, how many of our own subscribers have actually read WISNIFG? NMMNG isn't a particularly good book, and only resonates with people who have the Nice Guy problem. If her husband is "alpha" as she says, then why would she read it?
     
    A doctor who was willing to get engaged after only 5 months also doesn't fit. I've never seen a colleague who was so desperate. I waited over six years before getting married. We're cautious and obsessive people.
     
    Finally, posting her question in marriedredpill makes no sense when askmrp, RPW, and an entire world of non-RP resources are out there.

    [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh he proposed in 5 months! This will be frowned upon for me saying, but I was "waiting" until marriage. It also probably didn't hurt that his mom had recently developed a heart problem around the time he met me, and was pressuring him to get married.

    I posted here, because I didn't want women telling me to "accept myself." I wanted honesty. And, this is what came up when I typed "fat wife" in the search tool.

    I'm not sure what to say about "too neat, too complete." I'm good at being concise? I'm educated?

    And, it's summer vacation, so I'm off work. I have time to read stuff. I actually have a lot of self-help marriage type books at home. (None are even remotely like what's on here, though.) And I find this kind of stuff interesting.

    My husband is not on Reddit though. He doesn't have time for that. He reads a bit before bed, but not this kind of thing.

    [–]sexyshoulderdevil75% Liquid Sarcasm 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Now I'm hoping at work you like to tell the new doctors..."Everybody lies..."

    https://youtu.be/CZR2k5c_198

    [–]irateMDMRP APPROVED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    My wife loved House and used to comment on the similarities between us all the time.

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      [–]PineleroMarried 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You mean test to see if a Doctor know how to perform CPR?

      [–]ScurvemuchMRP APPROVED -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Gender guesser says "weak female"

      wrong sub troll

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        [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

        That's really not advice. Yeah, I know that losing the fat is key to my situation.

        BUT, I'm trying to see the bigger picture here. I'm trying to figure out what to do while it takes maybe a year and a half to get thin again.

        [–]_Kalidor_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Blue Pill Professor gave you the best answer already. Go read those books.
        Edit: Read those books and apply them to your situation while you lose the weight.

        [–]smidevaek 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        You can lose the weight faster than that. 2 pounds per week is perfectly doable and will have you 54 pounds down by Christmas.

        [–]wife4lifeihopeWoman, troll, hambeast? Juries out...[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I hope. I'm going to try the ketosis thing that all the men on here are talking about.