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Understanding Male Sexuality and Rape (self.MGTOW)

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The common theme in all porn except genres that are not mainstream is enthusiasm. Men get off by watching women not only consent but beg for it. They crave cock and we love em for it. Most men wouldn't be able to get it hard for a drunk passed out chick, drooling and snoring.

I brought a strange woman home with me after some heavy drinking at the bar. She was rubbing my cock in the car and we kissed all the way to the bedroom. A few seconds later, boom, she was passed out. I just got up and left and let her sleep it off. She woke up in her clothes in my house with a hang over. Turns out she had a boyfriend and I never saw her again, after I dropped her back off at the bar where she left her car. I just don't see the appeal of fucking someone who is passed out. I kinda need some moaning or dirty talk to get me going you know?

My point is if women understood male sexuality more they'd know it's impossible for most men to be rapist. We just aren't wired that way. Your thoughts?

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[–]Mathematicianer 11ポイント12ポイント  (11子コメント)

For a normal human male, yes, rape is unconscionable for more reasons than one, which is why all campaigns to tell men not to rape are ridiculously pedantic and noneffective. It's as useless as telling women to not smother their newborn children. If there's any propensity to act in such a manner, the person is already mentally ill.

Keep in mind I'm working with the actual definition of rape and not regret sex or a woman who drank a single glass of wine being absolved of the ability to consent.

[–]Morranaii 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

exactly. if the driver crashes his car when being drunk, he is held responsible.

if a woman had sex when being drunk and next day she regretted it and called it a rape - she is not being held responsible. no logic

[–]oldredder 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya, that Brock Turner case comes to mind. He got 3 convictions because when the girl was awake she got pussy juice on his fingers, but after she passed out he couldn't prove it happened while she was awake.

They were both drunk but he managed not to pass out.

Then the Internet went crazy saying he's a convicted rapist, picture and name.

As it happens he didn't get a rape conviction which makes it even worse.

[–]Mathematicianer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's terrifying how many feminists don't even know the psychological difference between being blacked out and being unconscious. No man worth his salt is going to attempt intercourse with a woman that isn't responsive, but drunken sex is almost inevitable if you're going to indulge in that lifestyle. Feminists don't seem to understand (or care to understand?) that blacking out impairs memory-recall but does not result in the person keeling over like a ragdoll. There's a mile-long canal that separates overpowering a woman that is passed out from alcohol (or other depressants) to fucking while intoxicated or high.

[–]Quadraphonic-[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm with ya. I was near blackout drunk when I got my first tattoo. Doesn't mean I didn't consent. Regret isn't rape. Buyers remorse isn't rape.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

If she consented while drunk then she is a slut. If she claims rape she gets victim cred and doesn't look like a slut. She doesn't care about the man she falsely accused.

[–]Morranaii 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

of course she is about to be treated like adult and a mature person when sober, but when drunk then she suddenly morphs into a small child whom you cannot judge, eh

[–]spencers6-94 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is what I'm thinking. What if you created and both signed a consent form to sex and she tears it up the next day? Then goes and claims rape. You'll be in deep, deep trouble if that happens because the law will be on her side. Even if you made 5 copies of the form, she can still lie and say, "Oh, that's not my signature." and make up an entirely new one, or claim that you somehow forged it. Unless you can get the consent in video recording, I'd personally not have sex with ANY woman.

[–]dalef77 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Take a picture of her holding up the contract with your phone. Be sure that your photos sync with the cloud.

And whatever you do, do you give her the PIN or password to your phone. If you do, she may delete the image from your phone and your cloud account.

She can also indicate consent via text message. However, she could claim that someone else, including you, gained access to her phone and transmitted the text message without her knowledge.

[–]oldredder 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

you know at that point no sex will happen.

[–]dalef77 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought "consent is sexy" - http://www.consentissexy.net/ .

At least that is what the feminists told me.

[–]aanarchist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

normal human males aren't attractive to women, not enough caveman.

[–]PurpleBanner 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

My point is if women understood male sexuality more they'd know it's impossible for most men to be rapist. We just aren't wired that way. Your thoughts?

I do not believe there is anything to be gained by explaining male sexuality to women. In fact, the more this subject is explain to women, the more likely they, women, will become upset and conclude for themselves that all males are rapists.

[–]IAmNotAlwaysRight 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

As the answer on this already says women require ways to have sex and not feel like a slut about it - plausible deniability is what they seek so that they they do not lose face.

They actually think though, that teaching men that they are inherently a rapist is doing anything to help their cause, all it is doing is providing a scapegoat for those who have no moral discipline to say - ''its in male sexuality anyway so why punish it''. See women do not care about the long term consequences to a society as much as men do so they don't care about making it incredibly hostile towards men.

What you are actually going to start seeing is a lot of men becoming hostile towards themselves and making life impossible for themselves to live. With a major contributing factor being the messages that they are fed that they can do nothing right no matter what they do.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women do understand male sexuality. But they don't care. They care about their needs and reputation first. If you're feeling curious ask women if abortion were only legal in cases of rape would they falsely accuse someone they love in order to get one.

[–]oldredder 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I literally just had one guy joke to a woman to lean over and accuse a guy of sexual assault (who is a pain in the ass) to make him go away.

And of all things she literally said to both us guys "I can't do that. There's way, WAY too many women doing that false-shit already"

[–]Wallstreet3 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If anything, 'rape-culture' makes me distance myself from sex.

[–]Morranaii 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

rape doesnt do anything for NORMAL men that is because you dont get any female validation through it. if it was doing something for us, much much more men would be serial rapists.

only twisted, unhealthy fucked up people rape as they go not for female validation but to imply fear, sense of hopeless power over the victim etc. thats why there are so little rapes overall. its a good news, actually we dont have as much fucked-up people around that TV is trying to teach us.

rape doesnt do anything for the male. that is why rape culture is fake.

[–]gravelheart 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have too much empathy to be a rapist. I teared up watching Clint Eastwood's movie Gran Torino after Sue got raped FFS, ha ha.

[–]oldredder 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

agreed, most men are wired not to be a rapist. Can't do it no matter what.

[–]DigitalScetis 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I happen to think that women understand male sexual fantasy far better than we give them credit for; men are rather simple to understand in this regard.

The problem is that women do not understand their own sexual fantasies. Worse, the more they obsess over their sexuality (like the repressed types of feminists and tradcons do), the less they are able to enjoy it. Zizek has a good clip on this that ought to be seen.

This is where the problem of rape becomes crystal clear. Today, it seems that when a woman says she was raped, it is less of a violation of her body and more of a violation of her psyche.

Watch the clip I linked above of The Piano Teacher in the Zizek clip, and you'll understand everything there is to know about the problem; even if you give her exactly what she wants, and especially if you give her exactly what she wants, this does not prevent it from becoming a rape in her interpretation, when her fantasies are actually realized, and can no longer remain in the realm of fantasy.

I'm still working out how this relates to women blacking out and passing out at parties from drinking in excess, but I can't help but think that women, in many cases, use the alcohol as a way to give themselves permission to have sex.

[–]Elder_Yautja 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its well known that "the rape fantasy" is possibly the no.1 sexual fantasy amongst women. The tall, dark and handsome stranger just takes her and ravishes her against her will, but of course she's loving it.

The problem with women, and for women, is that their desires are paradoxical. They crave excitement, and security. They want a man who is dependable, but they want a man who is just a little bit dangerous. These are mutually exclusive one is the abdication of the other.

I think "rape culture" is an expression of women's paradoxical love/hate relationship with the idea of being raped. Yes, it could happen. Maybe 1 in 200 guys would rape an unconscious woman, or threaten her at knifepoint. Their need for security demands they be irrationally afraid of rape, and by default treat all men as potential rapists (because you just never know who is that 1 in 200). But at the same time, if all men are potential rapists, then all men are potential rapists, and any man at any time might just take her and fuck her brains out, thus satisfying their need for danger by introducing a largely imaginary threat into their lives.

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[–]Smitty6 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Women cannot and are unable to understand male sexuality. Just like men are unable and cannot understand pregnancies and what they are like. This is one reason why this "gender fluid" stuff is stupid. Men and women are wired differently. Always have and always will be. My biggest gripe is that men side with women on these things and allow women to have these rules of "guilty until proven innocent" and allow false rape accusations to go unpunished. I always say that women need to be accountable for their actions. Men have to hold them accountable for their actions. They sure have no trouble holding other men accountable when men do wrong. So it's got nothing to do with women understanding male sexuality. Men already know these things yet still side with women. Symptoms of the white knight and mangina.

[–]Morranaii 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just like men are unable and cannot understand pregnancies and what they are like.

I'd debate over this statement.

we are capable of understanding far deeper, more complicated and sensible truths than women. science, spirituality and nature of reality, technology, logic, love etc. just to name a few.

I can definitely understand pregnancy both from the biological, conceptual and scientific point of view BUT ALSO I can feel it on an deep, emphatic level, metaphysical level so to say.