SIGNS – Reddit Modifies Platform Because Donald Trump Too Popular…

Donald Trump represents an existential threat to every political and social apparatus that has been built over the past several decades.  However, despite the media’s best efforts to diminish his supporters, the supporters for Trump remain the majority.

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That said, yesterday we warned:

In essence the united efforts of generational leftist Marxism will be to create self-fulfilling prophecies.  Those in control of common constructs need to convince the U.S. electorate to vote against their own best interests.   We will see and hear of various filters being applied to social media platforms – there will be one singular common benefactor; just look for it, and it will show itself.

Communication is a critical element of control.  The historic battle space remains the same, the battle for the mind.  Modern media and technology will be utilized to it’s maximum benefit to convince and persuade.

Inoculate yourself and your family.  Learn how to navigate and discern. (link)

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And Now Today:

Reddit has announced a change to its algorithm on /r/all, the page that is meant to rank the most popular posts trending across the site’s user-run communities. According to Reddit, the algorithm will be changed to promote more “diversity” on the subreddit.

The change is an explicit response to the Islamic terrorist attacks in Orlando, Florida. In their aftermath, /r/all was dominated by posts from /r/The_Donald, the primary community for Trump supporters on the site. (link)

 

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178 Responses to SIGNS – Reddit Modifies Platform Because Donald Trump Too Popular…

  1. Sargon says:

    President Trump can simply set up his own Reddit like platform for a pittance.

    President Trump is talking about his own TV / Webcast channel.

    And let Reddit try to influence it all they want.

    Liked by 16 people

    • RightJB says:

      Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that. Setting up your own vehicle is different from having it adopted by a broad audience.

      Liked by 2 people

      • darcy says:

        Supply creates its own demand. Remember that? from Econ 101?

        Liked by 5 people

        • teajr says:

          This is generally true, but then again, a giant Circle of group think doesn’t have the effect of outreach that the prevalence of a certain trend in a broad audience of ppl does. I think that this is what the Cult. Marxist are afraid of – namely, that they can’t control the narrative.

          Liked by 1 person

          • notamemberofanyorganizedpoliticital says:

            The more honest communication outlets the better.

            The Lie-Stream Media MSM and the Radical Islamic Terrorist Uni-Party Politicians have already lost the narrative. They are never going to get it back!!!!!!

            Liked by 1 person

        • notamemberofanyorganizedpoliticital says:

          Touche!!!

          Especially in this case where there is no “market” supply of honest news communications.

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        • jmclever says:

          considering how many tens of thousands of people go to his rallies and how many tens of thousands live-stream them, I’d say he’d have a viable venue.

          Liked by 1 person

      • woohoowee says:

        Trump has a built in audience.

        Liked by 7 people

        • georgiafl says:

          Yes. He. Does.

          TRUMP > YUGE media power @ minimal expense!

          Twitter – 9.11 M (9,112,477) followers – increasing 10-20,000+ per day
          Facebook -8,317,731 likes – increasing 10-15,000+K per day
          Instagram – 1.8M followers.

          Millions follow the social media accounts of Trump’s children, staff and supporters.
          Youtube channel – Over 2M (2,115,310) views of Trump’s announcement speech! Many thousand views of all videos, especially the great videos of Donald Trump explaining his positions on the issues.
          Live Stream – Thousands watch Trump events both live stream and replays on Right Side Broadcast Network and other venues.

          Mr. Trump is also an invited guest each week on television and radio programs every week that are seen/heard by millions.

          Media attacks and pundit tricks have only increased Trump’s popularity and following.

          Trump has his own media outreach with minimal expense – and – without begging or cow-towing to the media – social or broadcast.

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        • Cee says:

          Trump has 186.000 followers on Reddit. Clinton has 18,000.

          Liked by 4 people

          • daughnworks247 says:

            No kidding. Holy crap. I had no idea it was that much of a difference. My son is a Reddit nut and follows Trump through this group.
            Mostly under 30 guys and gals, very tech savvy.
            Great news.

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      • lou Ann Watson says:

        ask the major news outlets what it costs them to ignore the trump brand

        Liked by 3 people

      • mikeyboo says:

        The demand already exists-millions of Trump supporters. The same ones that were flooding Reddit and that Reddit is trying to shut down.

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      • Arkindole says:

        Raise your hand if you no longer visit dozens of so-called conservative web sites any more. I could list about 20 (who wouldn’t dare publish their revenue from click through’s after antitrump was revealed), in addition to all the upper and lower cable news channels.

        I’m not alone.

        “Build it and they will come…”

        Liked by 12 people

      • jeans2nd says:

        “Setting up your own vehicle is different from having it adopted by a broad audience…”

        Obama sets up his own twitter, instagram, etc. – Genius!
        Carly wants to poll the country’s opinions via smarphones – Visionary!
        Trump talks webcast/TV channel – Hitler!

        Gee wiz.

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    • Josie says:

      He has a channel on Roku. It’s called makeamericagreat.tv. It’s been there a while.

      Liked by 2 people

  2. Katie says:

    Twitter is already doing this. I’ve never seen @RealDonaldTrump in the top 20. Ever.

    Liked by 12 people

    • R-C says:

      I’ve never seen @RealDonaldTrump in the top 20. Ever.

      Let’s tug on that thread for a moment: How, exactly, has that changed the outcome? Last I checked, Trump is still crushing it.

      Let these fools do as they want. They aren’t gaining any traction, so what does it matter?

      The People have spoken. We’re going for Trump in record numbers. Nothing the naysayers can say or do to change that. Nothing.

      Liked by 13 people

  3. Sanj says:

    The ultimate effU would be Trump totally bypassing the MSM and tanking their ratings by setting up his own social media network and piggybacking off of OANN or similar.

    The networks would suffer greatly and eventually they’d beg DJT to return under His terms.

    Liked by 15 people

  4. Just CC says:

    Well then Mr. Trump should band them as it did the Washington post

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  5. Trump bad…Clinton good. Their attempts to alter reality will and are failing.

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    • TrumpFanGirl says:

      There are plenty it is working with and it would have worked with so many more if we didn’t already KNOW Hillary. My college student knows not to vote if it’s for Hillary, as she’s as bad as her rapist husband.

      Liked by 4 people

  6. aWakenow says:

    I know that this isn’t anything directly related, but I have noticed the past few days that facebook has made “top comments” their default. I don’t know how to change it, but I always have to change it “unfiltered comments” for everything. I never had to do that before for everything.

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    • truthseekerr says:

      my facebook is working normal. Can’t wait to drop facebook though! One day i’ll have had enough

      Liked by 1 person

      • KillingEmSoftly says:

        I dropped FB 2 years ago now…it’s been great!!

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        • Alpha Vulgarian says:

          I’m 3 years gone. It’s been a blessing. Cable is next, but wife is giving me a hard time about it.

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          • R-C says:

            I cut the cable years ago. We haven’t missed it.

            Liked by 1 person

            • Rex Brocki says:

              I’ve gotcha both beat… I never PLUGGED IN the cable.
              I last watched network TV in the Spring of 1969.
              I had the (dis)advantage of having worked–oh shame–in the TV industry, so I already knew what a lie it all was, even back then.
              Trump’s campaign is exposing–again–how empty and hollow TV coverage is. For that and many other reasons… GO TRUMP!

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              • Katherine McCoun says:

                Impressive! I was TV free in half of my childhood and most of adulthood. We had cable when I was apbedridden for a number of years after an accident. Not just due to boredom but because whrpen the TV was on I truly felt less pain as it worked like a drug and helped me zone out. It does that to our healthy kids too! Turn it off!:-)

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            • amjean says:

              I would love to cut the cable, however, need to
              watch and/or record Chicago Bears football.

              Liked by 1 person

              • ThePatriot says:

                Get a subscription to NFL online and you can watch ALL the teams every Sunday and there are also archives back to 2009.

                Then you will have no longer have an excuse to watch TV.

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      • Never Started: Never Profiled.

        Liked by 3 people

        • rubyyarn says:

          They don’t let you change much, but I did manage to have my education as having graduated from the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry…

          Don’t get me started on Facebook! If I didn’t have a business page I would probably drop it.

          Liked by 2 people

      • PatriotKate says:

        I have NEVER been on FB and my life is just fine, thank you. I think it’s useless and a complete waste of time.

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        • Shirley49 says:

          My daughter was recently scammed from someone on Facebook. Lost a lot of money. Only had been on FB for a few days. Dropped them immediately. Worthless piece of crap.

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      • Janie M. says:

        truthseekerr, part of the problem in getting rid of FB is that a number of smaller news sites (unlike Breitbart, The Daily Caller, etc.,) still use the FB format for comments.

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  7. Backspin says:

    Thou shall not question the Ministry of Media.
    The end goals ……………. Any excuse to deny Freedom . The End justifies the means.
    Use YOUR Free Speech NOW …… or lose it , and the net.
    Harass CON-gress by phone / E-Mail and Vote Freedom First !

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    • truthseekerr says:

      its all about ratings. “lets help DJT lose so it will be such huge news” This is how they thing. It is not about truth to them.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Deb says:

        Ratings have been down for all broadcasting for years, they don’t care. They continue with their cultural Marxist agenda regardless of ratings.

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        • emma says:

          Ratings are a thing of the past. The ‘channels’ get money each time you pay your cable bill regardless of ratings. So when you pay your bill because you like “discovery” and “the weather channel,” you’re ALSO paying YOUR hard earned money to “Okra Mindfree channel” and “we hate Christians” channel.

          You gotta cut the cord to truly hurt them, it’s the only way.

          Liked by 2 people

  8. Willy says:

    Speaking of control.;. notice how all the US senate lines are jammed and sent to recordings?

    Big vote on gun control today.

    Liked by 7 people

    • Bob says:

      If you want to get your voice heard by you congressman, use POPVOX, they actually use it to gage issues and they will respond to your comments as well….it is a no charge program. I’ll save the word FREE for other issues.

      Liked by 4 people

      • maiingankwe says:

        Thank you Bob, I’ve written it down so I can look into it. I’d be interested to see what they will say to some of my comments. Hopefully.

        I may not be able to stand Lisa Murkowski, and how she weaseled her way in the senate, but she does answer my emails. All of them. Sure, they are canned letters, and the majority of the time against what I believe and stand for, but her staff does make sure I will receive some sort of answer. My representative? Not so much. He’s useless, and rarely ever responds.

        Again, thank you, and be well. I’m thinking I’m going to like this platform.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Bob says:

          Maii, you will find it is a very comprehensive program. Your rep may not answer direct email. If he fails to do so on POPVOX, it’s there for the whole to see. You can track his voting record and many other neat features. POPVOX, BY THE WAY IS PRIVATELY OWNED….NOT GOVT.

          Liked by 5 people

      • Thank you Bob for POPVOX! Never heard of it but what a great tool!

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  9. I think the thing that scares the establishment more than anything else is the loyalty of Mr. Trump’s supporters. It’s not Trump’s mouth, or his ideas, or his hair, or even his persona. It’s the unbending an uncompromising loyalty of his supporters. That’s my opinion anyway.

    Liked by 11 people

    • Shirley49 says:

      True Trump supporters will never abandon their man. EVER. We’re with him all the way. Count on it. The MSM cannot moan all they want. We’re in it to win it.

      Liked by 8 people

    • from day one,,,, to the teeth.

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    • stringy theory says:

      Yes, we’re with Trump all the way to the White House. I simply don’t listen to the clap-trap from the MSM or read it in the print media. I stick to Drudge headlines and CTH. They cannot turn me or the votes in my family. I agree that is bugging the crapola out of them.

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      • singingsoul says:

        Joe and Mika the topic was that Trump is throwing the election because he is so low in his polls . They blame it on his speech on Orlando. What deranged people.
        I only look on the topic and get out of MSN

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        • R-C says:

          I believe Schmoe was a one-term congressman. Tells you all you need to know about his ‘winning ways’. He is insignificant. Why are you listening to him, and just whom do you reckon he influences with his minuscule audience?

          Liked by 1 person

          • jeans2nd says:

            “Scarborough was reelected with 72 percent of the vote in 1996. In 1998 and 2000, he was opposed by only a write-in candidate.
            He received a 95 percent lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union. He signed the Contract with America…” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough

            I believe there are some unresolved skeletons in Ol’ Joe’s closet, easily found with a simple search.

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        • stringy theory says:

          You will feel much better if you avoid the constant media gaslighting by turning off the TV and staying away from print and online sources that are anti-Trump.

          Trump picked up a ton more voters with his comments on Orlando and his speech re terrorists so his enemies are desperate, I tell you, desperate to convince you he’s down in the polls because of that. Of course that is total BS. And we’ve been there, done that before with the polls taken that supposedly showed Trump screwed up with this or that statement. The fact is he is crushing hitlery.

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        • Everything they say is opposite to the truth. That’s how I look at the MSM.

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        • MfM says:

          The media is also saying he’s campaigning in the wrong States. That his rallies aren’t enormous anymore, etc., etc., etc.

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  10. Willy says:

    A prediction – they will keep having mass shooting until they get a gun ban.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Sentient says:

      Time to buy gun company stocks.

      Liked by 1 person

    • truthseekerr says:

      I think they are just fine with death.

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    • Hillbilly4 says:

      Willy….you will be not be on this planet long enough to see your argument come to be. So, be sensible about this.
      A small story to get you see the ‘light’. In the mid 80s’ I attended a ‘speaker’ session hosted by a Priest. It was about his Missionary work in Honduras, El Salvador during the time when extreme violence dominated the region. He told the story of how the little villages, towns were suffering from attacks, one after another. His dilemma was his work was slowly being phased out because ENTIRE villages were being slaughtered…man, woman, and child….NO ONE was left. They had no way to fight back, or defend themselves from the violence. He returned to the USA with the knowledge that the PEOPLE must have a way to defend themselves…or simply vanish into the night. THAT is what the 2nd amendment is about. While you may chose not to fight, or defend yourself or your family – you have no moral right to questions those who choose not to be slaughtered. No one is arguing with what you choose to do…but don’t expect everyone to agree with you. You are simply – wrong.

      Liked by 3 people

    • fleporeblog says:

      My brother asked me to have an open mind and go to YouTube and search Sandy Hook Hoax. I have watched 6-8 different videos and am convinced that it never happened. The most convincing video is linked below

      Until reading this, I w concerned about sharing this info. But now I feel compelled.

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      • judyw says:

        And, Suzanne Collins who authored The Hunger Games lives in Sandy Hook, CT. If you haven’t read the series, read them. Fiction based on facts she knows about. It connects all the dots in a general sense and Sundance provides the details that help us all live our daily lives with more awareness. :)

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  11. conservalicious says:

    The sub Reddit called The Donald gained thousands of new subscribers after the Orlando
    Massacre was so astounding and it was in large part because it became the only subreddit where the terrorist attack could be discussed, all others prohibited any mention of Islam or Muslim. Even the mention of where to make blood donations was banned from the other subreddit’s! The Donald has now become the most popular sub Reddit, has lots of humor and loads of enthusiasm, and has close to 165,000 subscribers and many, many are young people. I see it as a great thing and like Sundance says, it has Reddit mortified.

    Liked by 16 people

    • TrustyHaste says:

      The latest one was a Democrat. So was Colorado theater, I think and also Gabby shooter. Does anyone have any other Political party info on these shooters?

      Liked by 1 person

    • Cyber says:

      Check out the /r/Mr_Trump subreddit. The_Donald had a hostile moderator takeover a few weeks ago, the mods at Mr_Trump now were kicked out of the mod pool in The_Donald due to their stance against censorship. They are censoring stuff at The_Donald now, just not as bad as the rest of the site, but still quite noticeable to people like me who knew what it was like before the takeover.

      Liked by 3 people

    • FLSverker says:

      The amount of censorship that /r/news, reddit’s “default” (meaning official) US news page, put into the Orlando shooting has me worried. I remember watching the first discussion get locked AS SOON as the first media outlets reported Omar Mateen’s race: https://i.sli.mg/jNVCKF.png

      Then the moderators of the /r/news page started going berserk, deleting EVERYTHING, including blood bank information and pleas from redditors asking for information about friends:


      When criticized, the /r/news moderation team responded in a vicious and unprofessional manner:

      What was the official excuse? “Responding to racism and sexism.” Uh huh. Okay. Sure. Or perhaps it was destroying the narrative? The administrators of Reddit have removed “default” subreddits for less egregious examples of censorship in the past, so their about-face on default subreddit censorship, algorithm manipulation of pro-Hillary subreddits, and subsequent punishment of /r/the_donald subreddit has revealed their true colors. What a damn shame.

      Liked by 6 people

      • mikeyboo says:

        Shame-but not at all surprising.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        In their cult thinking, it is responding to racism and sexism.

        If you do not think correctly, as they do in their virtue cult, you are a “bad guy.” Their cult, as all cults, sees the world in black and white: us virtuous, informed people, and eveyone else.

        If you are “Everyone Else,” you are either ignorant or intentionally evil.

        For these cult members to paint you as evil, they only need to hear one or two details about you, and then they can pigeonhole you – and the paint for painting people as “evil” is already provided.

        Trump = businessman. Let’s put that in the algorithm and hit “run,” and wait a few moments….results: “Bad Guy.”

        Trump is against an open border. Let’s put that in the algorithm and hit “run,” and wait a few moments….results: “Bad Guy.”

        Now that we know he is a Bad Guy, we already know he is racist and sexist.

        This is all that this is: cult members painting individuals with broad strokes, lest htey figure out their world view is wrong, and get despondent about being useful idiots.

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    • daughnworks247 says:

      Those young men are so sick and tired of SJW types. They see this election as fighting for their freedom on college campuses everywhere.

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  12. FLSverker says:

    Facebook, Tumblr, Twitter, Reddit, etc. Everything is controlled the corporatist, liberal media.

    Dark times ahead.

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  13. waltherppk says:

    For propagandists Controlling the Narrative is Priority #1

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  14. Cyber says:

    I’m an avid Reddit user and subscribed to the /r/Mr_Trump subreddit. I used to be subbed to /r/The_Donald but there was a hostile takeover of the moderators there by what we suspect was a Reddit admin who hangs in the /r/shitredditsays social justice subreddit and literally overnight all the anti-censorship moderates were banned from The_Donald, and they were obviously censoring stuff that used to be just fine.

    Both of these Trump subreddits get heavily brigaded at various times (like now for Mr_Trump) where literally a post will be made that gets, say, 20 upvotes and then magically gets downvoted to oblivion. The brigaders are most likely Hillary-bots or SRS (shitredditsays) SJW’s. The reddit admins are fully in the tank for the SJW crowd, and were going crazy a few weeks ago when regular users of reddit were seeing popular posts from The_Donald appear frequently on /r/all.

    I like to see what the Millenials think about Trump, and reddit is a great place for that. But, like most social media, it’s heavily censored and manipulated now.

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    • Shirley49 says:

      I am not on Facebook or Twitter or any other social media type. Can someone tell me what Reddit is?

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      • AZ_Giggles says:

        It’s a forum. Like an open chat/discussion board. They’re all mostly the same, sigh…

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      • Deb says:

        It is a forum that has various sub forums set up by users and moderated by Reddit employees as well as volunteer mods. There is a sub forum for just about any topic you can think of, with new ones popping up all the time.

        Reddit used to be well known as an anti-censorship site and almost radical free speech advocate, to the point where there were vile sub Reddit’s set up for all kinds of vile topics, some of them simply to troll.

        The users successfully rebelled against changes that a short lived SJW CEO made, and she was forced to resign, but her agenda was simply taken up by the mods, both paid and volunteer SJW mods. Their agenda is to change the free speech” culture, and are slowly making it as PC as your typical left wing campus.

        I’d say the majority of its users are ages 25-40, but I could be wrong.

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        • emma says:

          ‘short lived SJW CEO’ was Ellen Pao

          Her tweet from day before yesterday came up in the google search I did to confirm her name and spelling. What shows on the google list is, “the white boy next door cannot possibly be a criminal and so he isn’t …”

          Basically, Ellen is anti white racist SCUM.

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      • Cyber says:

        Reddit is literally huge, over 800,000 subreddits and hundreds of millions of users worldwide. All sorts of famous people do AMA’s there (Ask Me Anything) including Obama and other politicians, celebrities of all kinds, scientists, you name it. It’s main user demographic is Millennials but plenty of people (like me) are older. It’s much more than “a forum”, and it’s really hard to describe for the most part because it’s in many ways a bastion of free speech and in other ways a cesspool of SJW-driven censorship and group-think. That’s primarily due to the Reddit staff being located in San Francisco. Subreddits can exist that are utterly uncensored and as long as they don’t break the rules pretty much anything (legal) goes. But they have a track record of shutting down subreddits when it suits them, all under the guise of protecting people from “hate speech”, racism, or whatever suits their SJW fancy really. Porn? No problem! Support Trump’s position on immigration? You better keep that thought to yourself outside of Trump-centric subreddits.

        Any user can start a subreddit. But the default subs are what most people see. And those are now pretty much so heavily censored that it’s getting comical. Way too much non-PC thinking going on out there.

        Another thing about reddit is that if you see someone post something, you can literally go back and look at every single thing they have ever posted. You can also have pretty much as many user accounts as you want. A “throwaway” account is perfectly fine if, for instance, someone asks something very personal that you want to share but don’t want it to appear in your main account that’s more or less public. And if you get on the SJW-radar, they will try to dox you if they deem you too dangerous to their war.

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        • Cyber says:

          On that last part, I don’t mean they can just see all the new threads you started. I mean they can literally look at your entire comment history. Some people will go back months or years to see if they can catch you in a lie or contradiction if they feel the need, it’s nuts.

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        • emma says:

          Hubby browses a few subreddits, he asked that I list them in case some of you might be searching for uncensored and politically incorrect news/views. I want to stress these are POLITICALLY INCORRECT. Hubby tells me these are the younger generation of VERY HARD RIGHT conservatives.

          anglo_identarian, darkenlightenment, europeannationalism, europeanpeoples, farright, fullfascism, gdnews (gd stands for golden dawn, the greek group), gentilesunited, hardright, hbd, holocaust, islamunveiled, nationalsocialism, new_right, northamerican, polfacts, white_pride, sjwhate, whitenationalism, whiterights, uncensorednews.

          Obviously not all of these are going to be for everybody – that’s the point. These are POLITICALLY INCORRECT for the most part – it’s an effort to destroy cultural marxism in the den that is reddit.

          Helpful tip: you can view multiple reddits at a time by viewing one, and then putting a plus sign after it and adding another name. Just string the names together with plus signs. That’s how he bookmarked them, he checks them all daily for tidbits from around the world that you don’t really see anywhere else.

          Since I don’t do reddit, I don’t really understand what that helpful tip means, lol…

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        • joshua says:

          frankly…..this discussion is disgusting….that our nation and citizens are SO attached to the internet and blogs that many younger folks know more about the blogs and their gnomes than they do about their own neighborhood.

          That facebook, as well as Reddit, were founded by CS little college boys who threw some junk together to tittilate their internet audience into believing that they BELONG to some group if they are on this site….with plans to be arrogant rich jerks like Mark Zuckerberg…and no moral or ethical values to bring to the party.

          Shallow, hollow, disgusting for the most part…and wasted time pretending to be relevant.

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      • amwick says:

        I had to look it up. I will avoid it for now. Twitter is confusing enough.

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    • Suncc49 says:

      Cyber. Cisw came back to the donald and took it over. Fyi. He was the founder you know.

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      • Cyber says:

        It’s different from what it was. They got to him somehow. There’s no way he’s really the top mod. It’s still OK but some very fishy stuff went on with the mod situation there. He’s operating under the presumption that one false move and reddit will very publicly kill the sub.

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    • Athena the Warrior says:

      Reddit has been a battleground against the SJWs and their efforts to take over gaming. It was infected by the Ellen Pao debacle after she took over and try to destroy it because they wanted “diversity in gaming.”

      The redditers are tough battled hardened badasses who fight back and usually win.

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  15. waltherppk says:

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  16. quintrillion says:

    Social engineering; mind-control….think tanks in US are connected to Tavistock Institute in London. Do a search and read up, if you’re not familiar.

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  17. Whut? Reddit? Another freak ‘social “conversational” site’? Facebook, twitter, linkden…oh my….? I can’t stand it.

    Who gives a ‘tinkers dam’!!!
    http://articles.latimes.com/1986-11-27/news/vw-13637_1_tinkers-dam-worth

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    • This says it all…

      http://articles.latimes.com/1986-11-27/news/vw-13637_1_tinkers-dam-worth

      Take My Word!
      A Tinker’s Dam Worth a Wad of Dough
      November 27, 1986|THOMAS H. MIDDLETON

      I’ve written about the expression “not worth a tinker’s damn” before. It’s been a long time since I last did so, and I still get letters, the most recent just last week–a very pleasant one from a lady named Olive Swanson–saying that “tinker’s damn” is wrong, because the proper phrase is “tinker’s dam”; so here we go again. The theory has it that a tinker’s dam is a small piece of dough or putty that was fashioned to hold molten solder in place while the tinker was repairing pots and pans. After use, the “dam” was tossed away as worthless; thus, “not worth a tinker’s dam.”
      That’s a commonly known fact that seems to have found its way into dinner-party-conversational trivia for more than a century. The trouble is that it isn’t true. In the old days when tinkers traveled about the countryside toting the tools of their trade, they were considered a rather disreputable lot. In the 19th Century, the expressions “drunk as a tinker” and “swears like a tinker” were commonplace, as were, “not worth a tinker’s curse” and “not worth a tinker’s damn.”
      This is not surprising. It seems to me that if the most devout and mild-mannered curate took up the tinker’s trade, perhaps as some sort of penance, and started mending metal utensils, his tools being tin snips, tongs, hammers, pliers, solder and a fire, which he must excite to white heat with a bellows, he would, within a short time, be slugging down the sauce and using words of which “damn” would be the least remarkable.

      The story of the origin of the “tinker’s dam” theory is interesting. In 1877, a man named Edward H. Knight published something called “The Practical Dictionary of Mechanics.” He included what was almost certainly the first citation of the phrase “tinker’s dam” with the “wad of dough” explanation. What I suspect happened is that Knight had perhaps watched a tinker at work and inquired as to the name of the wad of dough he’d seen the tinker using as a little dam for holding something or other more or less in place. The tinker, having just tapped his left thumb with a hot hammer, cried, “Damn!” That apparently satisfied Knight, who went away smug in the discovery that a tinker’s “Damn!” was not a damn at all, but a dam. So it went into his dictionary.
      Later, a British philologist named Basil Weaselword was attending a house party in Devonshire. This was about midway in the reign of Queen Victoria, and polite language certainly didn’t include the expletive “damn.” At one point during this house party, in a large room in which all the guests were gathered in conversational groups, Weaselword, chatting with two other men, said, “I don’t care a tinker’s damn what Disraeli says. . . .” One of those unpredictable and often embarrassing conversational lulls fell on the assembled company just as that escaped his lips. Heads spun in his direction, with many a cry of “Have a care, Sir!” and “Ladies present!”
      Weaselword, who was, predictably, the only one at the house party to have even heard of “The Practical Dictionary of Mechanics,” explained his social gaffe: “Oh, I say, chaps! Not that, at all! D-A-M! A tinker’s d-a-m is actually . . .” and he related Edward H. Knight’s absurd theory as though it were fact. He thus became the hit of the house party and gained a reputation as a rather more than commonly interesting fellow, being conversant with such arcana as tools of the tinker’s trade.
      He was also responsible for a century of lexicographic trivia.

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  18. Elvis Chupacabra says:

    The LAST free place on the Internet is /pol/ on 4Chan.org!

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  19. waltherppk says:

    Liberals and Progs and BLM and Muzzies are ALL ….. Zombies

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  20. LBB says:

    I think it was over the week-end , someone posted a sample here ( had a TX twitter) of Hillary astroturfing through twitter. Had about 10 samples of just some starting with “A”. I think they may be loading up faux accounts on twitter, FB etc and will be able to impact trending by just having enough accounts. I had a discussion with someone and what it would take to “nail” the practice.

    This is one a super geek would be handy to bring to light if necessary.

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  21. Beam Me Up says:

    I still think all those dumb bunnies who wanted Bernie thought socialism meant social media in some form. I hope they don’t wait for all our freedom to be taken away before they wise up…

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  22. LOL but I thought Trump was cratering and HIllary was going to win in a landslide!

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  23. formwiz says:

    Translation: He’s winning and everybody knows it.

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  24. Sandy says:

    Trump is absolutely awesome! He is the man for President!

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  25. Bluto says:

    “Inoculate yourself and your family. Learn how to navigate and discern. “

    It’s too late for some people. I have people in my life that I admire & respect, yet they’re preaching to me about “Polite Society” as they call Trump Hitler & insult his entire voter base. But at least they’re sort of polite about the insults.

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    • emma says:

      Question – when those people are about to have their heads chopped by a muzlim, do we HAVE to rush in and protect them?

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      • Panzerakc says:

        Well, it might be pretty traumatic for the near-victim if we do.

        Because a gun will probably have to be used.

        And you know how horrifying it is for them to contemplate guns in the abstract, imagine how traumatized they will be to see one up close.

        So yours is a very good question. Do we rush in to save the snowflakes knowing they will resent our using guns to save them?

        A conundrum, for sure.

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    • stringy theory says:

      Bluto, I’m fortunate because all of my friends (save one total idiot) are on the Trump bandwagon big time. I agree, those that want a “polite society” can tell it to the ISIS guy as he raises the sword over their heads.

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    • singingsoul says:

      Bluto + I am always so insulted when people call Trump Hitler because that evil man Hitler caused so much suffering and death to millions of people.
      Europe suffered because of him including Germans but specially Jews, gays and handicapped people. Also other people like Gypsies and so many people.
      Trump is a kind man who loves the US Hitler was not even German and was evil.
      I think people have no clue who and what Hitler was otherwise they would not say what they say.

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        My opinion is that the Marxists knew how similar in ideals Hilter was to them.

        So, they had to re-invent Hilter. Hilter went from being a socialist, with a great emphasis on top-down government and top-down shaping of the population through both positive and negative eugenics, to being an arch-conservative.

        They did this by playing up his Nationalism ideals and his ideal of a strong military.

        This is what gets taught in public education: Hilter was conservative, intolerant, nationalistic.

        As a life-long democrat, I along with eveyone else threw the Hilter term at anyone and eveyone we did not like – Ronald Raygun, all the way down to the Republican Dog-Catcher. We also loved saying “fascist.” All the time.

        Top-down control of society, and eugenics are leftist, Marxist, socialist ideals. There are no two ways about it. Once Marxists get in control of a country, they then want a strong military – until that point, the military is not theirs, so they adopt a very anti-military view.

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  26. Sherlock says:

    Many have suggested over the past months that the onslaught from the bought media, and outright censorship of the sort now increasing daily, would make it imperative for Trump to find ways around them, ways to go directly to the American people. We suggested “virtual rallies” and streaming videos directly from the campaign, totally bypassing the media.

    It is time to unleash these and other ideas.

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    • yakmaster2 says:

      I agree with you. These State sanctioned efforts through Corporate collusion to suppress and subvert Trump’s message and craft deceptive pro-Hilary narratives MUST be met with creative guerilla communication warfare!!

      Those who control message influence minds. Those who control the minds of the people can CONTROL EVERYTHING.

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    • Howie says:

      They are not too popular at all. About the level of the crooked used car salesman. maybe even lower.

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      • Sherlock says:

        Do not underestimate their ability to influence the foolish, and the uninformed
        Do not underestimate the number of foolish and uninformed people

        We must go around the media. It cannot be cajoled or shamed into telling the truth. Alternate means of communication must be formulated and implemented.

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        • R-C says:

          Do you not think we have been doing so, rather successfully, for a year now?

          Is Mr. Trump not driving the debate no matter what ‘they’ do to stop him? Are their many anti-Trump gambits not failing, one by one by one?

          “We must continue to go around the media.”

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          • stringy theory says:

            R-C, I completely agree. Trump is driving every news cycle and saying exactly what his horde of followers want to hear. He’s doing what he has been successfully doing since getting into this race, and he’s getting better at it all the time.

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    • freddiel says:

      I think that is a great idea too. Remember, though, that the US turns over control of internet in September. Who know what that will mean. I suspect it is so “they” can say “it wasn’t us – THEY took away your free speech”!

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  27. Kristin says:

    Is there a good reason for me to go on Reddit? I have never been there nor will I attempt it.

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    • freddiel says:

      My personal opinion of Reddit is that there are a lot of young horny people( many males) voicing their opinions about this and that and finding creative ways to link it to their perversions. That being said, I have a son and I find it interesting, if not necessary, to try to be able to relate to his worldview.

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  28. Kristin says:

    Bluetooth I have purged most of the libs in my environment, family included. I have inoculated myself a whole while ago.

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    • Bluto says:

      It’s sad when it’s family, at least for me. Our family’s pretty tight. I really want to curse right now…so just imagine…. I hate the *&%@$%@^& Media! Not only are they messing with my Country, but my family too.

      Pissed.

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      • Don’t worry I have them in mine too! My sister her husband and her 2 liberal Hillary supporters drive me crazy! I haven’t visited them in two years! I get so mad at them.
        How sad it is !

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      • TheLastDemocrat says:

        Sad abt family – no kidding.

        My wife is like “I know you have some kind of anger at your dad…”
        I responded: “No, I have indifference toward my dad.”

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      • freddiel says:

        I do not discuss political affiliation with my son or 2 of my sisters. I have in the past and it is not worth it to me to alienate them. They do not have the same beliefs that I do. I love them too much and would rather have them in my life. I pray for everyone and trust that God will see us all through these trying times. One way or the other. Family is my everything.

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    • Remington says:

      Well done…..If they are liberals, they will not be around my family in any way,shape or form. And, unfortunately, that applies to family as well. Not the first time this has happened. The Civil War saw the same problems where it was not unusual that brothers were on opposite sides. Kinda where we are today

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  29. M33 says:

    Ugh…

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  30. Kristin says:

    That was BLUTO. Not Bluetooth.

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  31. Bart Manson ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ says:

    They’re losing control. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit…they’re losing control of the conversation and they don’t like it. As they get more desperate to silence the people, they get more obvious about what they are doing.

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    • Bluto says:

      Man, it’s gonna get really hairy when the debates start again!

      Liked by 3 people

      • Athena the Warrior says:

        We might see one of the moderators jumping up and yelling at Mr. Trump to stop when he starts eviscerating Hillary. I can see Chuck Todd, Anderson Cooper, or Jake Tapper doing this.

        Hillary’s pajama boy harem.

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        • Sherlock says:

          I don’t think there ought to even be moderators. I think the candidates should question each other. Who needs the talking heads with gotcha questions? One on one, no holds barred. Ask a question, the other gets two minutes, back and forth. Screw the friggin’ media.

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        • maxx power says:

          “Stop winning Mr President! I can’t take any more winning! Please stop!”

          “No, we’re gonna keep on winning! We’re gonna win on obamacare, we’re gonna win with our second amendment, we’re gonna win with jobs!, We’re gonna take care of our Vets!”

          Anderson Cooper, passed out on the floor.

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    • singingsoul says:

      Looks Zuckerberg is using USSR tactics or Chinese tactics. I wonder if he is a communist and against free speech…? I think he needs to move to China so he can enjoy the full joy of his philosophy.
      The libs have it wrong those who stop free speech are more Goebel like and fascist than any conservative.

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  32. Daniel says:

    Talk about voting against their own best interests, I came across this today. Many here have heard about “Thunderf00t.” He’s a youtube personality who often rants against very stupid things and comes across as rather intelligent and well-reasoned. Except for this one:

    In this, he seems to be following orders and using the “stay” talking points and one which seems to be uniquely his talking point which is “exiting won’t make anything better and will actually make things worse for Britain.” His spin on that argument is in his own style, but not in his own method or manner because he doesn’t really use evidence or example to support his argument. And at the end, his conclusion is that it will “start a war” but he doesn’t back that up by saying who would be attacking Britain or why.

    Turns out the EU funds his research and so now he’s singing the EU song.

    And here’s an observational bit I’ve heard long ago and has recently been popping into my head. Leftist/liberal/moonbats argue that various things which we call “nature” are actually just “social constructs.” You know, like race and sex and all that…? The irony is that GOVERNMENT, that entity which the leftist/liberal/moonbats depend on to defend their right to be stupid IS, in fact, an actual Social Construct!!

    Getting people to act against their own best interests is to get people to fear what’s best. “Rape culture” makes women hate, fear or distrust men… additional erosion of the family… that and so many other things. All appeals to emotion and most often to fear.

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    • Howie says:

      I do not see how global one world governance is beneficial. I like the old fashioned vote for your favorite crook system.

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  33. Howie says:

    Many do not buy the Globaloney the MSM is selling.

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  34. redsequin4 says:

    We should rename Reddit and the rest of the progressive media “the ministry of truth”. Orwell would approve I think.

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  35. Anti-Zionist says:

    Reddit has been a censorship hell hole for over a year now.

    They banned my accounts and banned the IP address of my home, work, phone, and 2nd IP after changing my IP at home.

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  36. redsequin4 says:

    Thank you Donald Trump for giving me hope again for our great country. It really is a love fest as you like to say. I can’t express in words how much I appreciate your honesty, boldness, honor, patriotism and courage!

    Now we have to make sure that on Friday, January 20, 2017, it will be YOU taking the oath of office as our next President.!!

    Time Left Until Obama Leaves Office
    https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T00&msg=Time%20left%20until%20Obama%20leaves%20office

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  37. freezepeach is an alternative to twitter that isn’t moderated at all.

    reddit is one of those self referential sewers like facebook. it isn’t remotely relevant despite the many claims otherwise. it follows trends, it doesn’t set them.

    a simple blog platform like wordpress can host an enormous number of threads on a single blog, and as long as the correct legal disclaimers are in place it is extremely unlikely that it will be shut down as it would be making the platform owners way too much money.

    failing all of that start talking to people in real life. witnessing is still the best form of social media.

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  38. jmclever says:

    Question: what would it take to have the comments section of news sites covered under the first amendment’s freedom of the press clause? In reality, those comments would have been published a generation ago on the op-ed pages and many posts are factual and link credible sources to back up what they are saying. The comments section is really the citizen journalist’s venue. As such, it should be protected under the first amendment.

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  39. Mr. Haney says:

    The only social media I need is right here.

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  40. ZZZ says:

    All main social networks could cease to exist and it would not affect DT’s growing popularity. It’s too late. To coin a southern term, they showed their butt.:)
    Point of no return.

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    • TheLastDemocrat says:

      —we used to say “showed his azz.”
      But this may have been farther up in the woods, where we said “everwho” instead of “whoever,” and we would “mash” buttons rather than “press” them.

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  41. TrumpOrDie says:

    NYT publishes article about how much older, whiter, and less-educated the electorate is than the Establishment had thought.

    Their response? Take the war to social media sites.

    After all, if you control Reddit and Twitter, you control the white 60-something blue-collars in Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Detroit.

    What we’re seeing is the logical extreme of the left-wing’s Tea Party — the Obama coalition — in its polarizing final days. They can’t appeal to anyone beyond the tiniest hardcore base — 20-something people of color whose only interactions and information flows are mediated through the internet.

    So they are resigning themselves to whipping up this micro-niche and hoping that it’ll dwarf the Silent Majority in the fall. Maybe “resigning themselves” is too generous — they’re so smug and complacent that they don’t even see how small their base is, and how drained of enthusiasm their campaign has become.

    Obama only won because the GOP ran even more polarizing candidates with even smaller freakshow bases. Now that Trump has appealed to all Americans — especially those who still communicate through word-of-mouth and aren’t influenced by internet and TV propaganda — Crooked Hillary’s goose is cooked.

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  42. Truthfilter says:

    I can sense in the comments that there is an increase of younger people coming here to the Treehouse. I love it.

    Liked by 3 people

  43. Luke Luck says:

    Reddit is now The Front Page of Censorship.

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  44. TheLastDemocrat says:

    Many of y’all know this, but some do not.

    The Left want to control the media you are exposed to. Here is how they make this sound noble.

    They have two related concepts: participative democracy and deliberative democracy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_democracy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliberative_democracy

    Basically, the idea, which will be used to support their control of all media, is this:
    Step One: our democracy depends upon discussion and deliberation over political issues and ideas, and each individual generally needs a certain range of knowledge base from which to participate in these discussions.
    Step Two: more than ever, with so many choices, and marketing, etc. with the internet/social media, we select our media and the media also selects us.
    Step Three: We end up in an echo chamber. –So, this is where the issue of the “echo chamber” came from about 12 years ago.
    Step Four: if we, generally, each of us, enough of us, only get info from our echo chamber, then we do not fit the criteria of being informed that was noted up above at the definition of “deliberative” / “participative” democracy.
    Step Five: we have a major problem – our democracy will certainly fail because of the advent of social media —
    Step Six: fear-mongering!
    Step Seven: “Hello – I am from the Government, and I am here to help.” –The solution is that a team of intellectual elites will make sure there is a proper diversity of viewpoints communicated among ALL media avenues. –This has been the basis of their attempts to force “fairness doctrine” back upon AM Radio – ?they are tragically afraid of AM? SRSLY? This strategy has been advocated by Cass Sunstein (book: “Democracy and the Problem of Free Speech.”) and others.

    So, rather than identifying anything as “censorship,” you have to change to the “New Thinking.” Control of Reddit is enhancing “deliberative democracy.” Cheer up, Comrade!

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  45. mamadogsite says:

    As maddening as it can be sometimes, I use FB to keep in touch with friends from HS, and friends I have made along 70 years as well as kids. When they “stray” in their ideology all I have to do is copy and paste all sorts of well documented articles which helps them make informed decisions. When you can calmly, (as this site does), present the truth in a vernacular that they understand, then they “get it” and I enjoy seeing, one by one, 30’s-50-year-olds actually enjoying their discovery of truth, and like us, getting angry about all of the lies they have been fed for so many YEARS.

    Family…all but my daughter and son-in-law are for Trump….and they too are VERY vocal…out of respect to my daughter and son-in-law who will NEVER change, I have set the rules in my house. We will not be discussing religion or politics at my dinner table. And by setting the parameters, we have had quiet and enjoyable meals. The operative word here is “respect”.

    So, for the “education” opportunity alone, as well as friendship, I stay on FB.
    Dropped the rabid “air-head” friends in 2008. They still don’t get it and constantly try to re-establish friendship/(relatives included). I figure my time, life and livlihood is more valuable than their “friendship.”

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  46. daughnworks247 says:

    Group post today to mostly middle-aged women — strongly influenced by Sundance on this same theme.

    Ask yourself, why is the MSM and the newspapers screaming about Trump SO LOUDLY? Well, who pays for their advertising? In this arrangement, the press is no different than politicians who have been co-opted by donor dollars.

    Remember back in high school when some skank came along and tried to steal your boyfriend? If you were the smart head cheerleader, and the skank was toothless, over-weight, did not wash her hair, dressed poorly and was stupid, you probably did not consider the skank much competition. You might have dissed her once, but then forgotten about it. A skank could never turn your boyfriend with a perfect SAT score, the quarterback’s, head.

    Now imagine, you are the skank, toothless, overweight, unpopular, dirty hair, stupid, and the head cheerleader comes along trying to steal YOUR boyfriend. She’s going to win. As a skank, you stand no chance. You plead with your boyfriend, you threaten the cheerleader, you follow them to the movies and stalk them both. You become crazed with jealousy and begin to do things you thought were previously unacceptable but you rationalize the behavior to save your relationship.

    I submit, Hillary/MSM is not only a skank but a spoiled skank and we are taking away her credit card. Trump is the smart head cheerleader during the election of 2016. Hillary is not a good candidate, she is unpopular, cold as a fish, unaccomplished, poor record, has a lying dirty dog husband, and takes shady money from bad people. The MSM are groupies to the main skank.

    Think about it. If Trump IS A REAL THREAT to pundits/politicians/lobbyists lifestyle, their livliehood and their future credibility. You see, if Trump wins and they are proven wrong, “they” are revealed and destroyed. If Trump were truly a clown, racist/sexist/Hitler, stupid, and horrible, then he would pose no threat. He would have been dissed once and then ignored. Instead, Trump is winning, breaking records, and the Republican nominee. The fever pitch of the media indicates they are worried as never before. They are now desperate to the point of doing things otherwise considered unacceptable. It is the textbook definition of DESPERATION AND we have proof.

    Yesterday, an editor from a NY Magazine took out a figurative 100 million dollar “bounty” on Trump – dead or alive. Have you EVER seen anything like that from the press during a presidential election? Over the top behavior indicating DESPERATION.
    Obama’s “update” on the Orlando shooting was supposed to be a speech to make all Americans feel safe. That’s not what happened. It turned into a campaign pitch against Trump where Obama was visably disturbed, petulant, childish and snide. Why? That’s easy. The Orlando shooting revealed Obama’s terrorism policy as a failure and calls into question Obama’s massive Muslim immigration policies. So much so that the Dem’s are losing the LGBT contingency base. The LGBT community is now dating the cheerleader and the skank is upset and DESPERATE…. even trying to change the subject to guns. AND the LGBT community is not merely dating someone more attractive, they are doing it to save their very lives. They understand.
    The Bloomberg Poll showing Trump down 12 points against Hillary and the WaPost poll showing Trump at 70% unfavorable AND the way these two pieces of info are being treated in the press are BLATANT indicators of DESPERATION by MSM. The Bloomberg poll is so inaccurate it is ignored by PPP. Bloomberg, on Super Tuesday, had Trump losing in primary states – hahah. NBC has a current poll with Trump ahead of Hillary but NBC and MSNBC are touting Bloomberg’s poll, the one with Trump down, instead of their own poll. Think they are pushing an agenda? NOT reporting material from your own research desk is over the top, agenda driven behavior, previously considered unacceptable and smacks of DESPERATION.
    The WaPost/CBS poll came out 2 days after Trump “revoked” their press credentials and the ONLY stat we are seeing from this poll is about Trump’s favorability. Did you know the NYTimes/CBS poll has Trump up 6 points over Hillary? You don’t see that poll do you? More DESPERATION.
    Men (and women) who constantly submit to another controlling power and do what they are told are not leaders. They are beta males. Most politicians are beta males. Trump is an indisputable alpha male. Who do you want as a leader? Someone who has led successfully for at least 4 decades or someone who does what they are told?
    Thus, we dismiss Lindsey Graham, Colin Powell, Kelly Ayotte, Rob Portman, John Sununu, Ryan, Romney, et als. The mere fact that these GOPe rep’s are shrieking at their own party’s leader is absolutely an indicator of pure DESPERATION and what must be stern threats from DESPERATE donors who want more H1Bvisas and unbridled bad trade.

    Trump is winning. We are winning. The level of DESPERATION is the proof. Hillary really is the skank and Trump really is the smart head cheerleader in this election.

    Finally, I would like to make one point which media conveniently overlooks. When you see a poll of “registered” Republicans or Dem’s, that normally means the respondents have voted in general elections since 2008 AND off year elections. They are reliable voters who voted 2008, 2010, 2012 and 2014. This demographic is more highly regarded as an establishment voter. How many people have you met at Trump rallies who are voting for the first time? How many have you met under age 26 who plan to vote? How many have you met who had not voted in all 4 of these elections (and thus NOT eligible to be polled)? Understand, with an extra 5-7% turnout, Trump wins. America wins.

    Now does the DESPERATION make sense?

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  47. RINOKiller says:

    Community forum boards are much better!

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