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[–]soelc3 27ポイント28ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is a popular analysis in red pill / tradcon circles. By including the "modern" adjective, the implication is that pre-modern, pre-feminist women were somehow different. As MGTOWs have said over and over again, if modernity or feminism is the root cause of women's behavior, as red pillers / tradcons / white nationalists like to claim, rather than an enabler or catalyst, it absolves them of any responsibility for their actions, and we don't have to see how far the rabbit hole actually goes, or look into any uncomfortable truths about human nature. It reminds me of that "Neomasculinist" clown Paul Joseph Watson having to awkwardly emphasize "Third Wave feminism" whenever he criticizes it, as if the first two waves were benign and irrelevant. At what point does this tip-toeing around the truth become another form of gynocentric pandering?

[–]grufx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Central to the tradcon delusion is saying social media has impaired women and turned them into what they are. That's like saying the prevalence of online pornography is the root cause of men being attracted to women. The biology of the underlying behavior was hardwired over hundreds of thousands of years on this planet it didn't just spring up out of nowhere. Social media allows an unprecedented opportunity to observe it in no uncertain or deniable terms and it is ugly. So ugly in fact it seems like "RP" tradclowns can't even believe it. This is where the rubber hits the road and all the haughty vernacular in the world cannot hide their true colors; and they are true blue.

[–]DrunkWiseman[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Okay this is where we may diverge. You don't think women deserve the same basic human rights as men? Such as to vote? To be able to have control over their own lives?

Second, there is no definitive proof of these types of behaviors being intrinsic "woman nature". You can't possibly exclude the fact that history and social policy has a profound effect on minorities and other sects of people. For example, East European women are vastly different than North American women. The people on here yelling "AWALT" are not wrong, there are probably many core values that women share, but they diverge quite dramatically also.

Finally, if feminism is the root cause for feminine behavior, it doesn't absolve anyone of anything. It simply shows the willingness of women to embrace these ideologies. You think men are so perfect? Think back to the time when it was common place for men to rape and pillage and do whatever they wanted.

My main point is however bad you think woman nature is intrinsically, a MUCH greater effect as it pertains to the modern woman is how badly their attitude towards life has been exacerbated by feminism and social media. At the end of the day, regardless of how you want to go around distributing blame or pointing fingers, it doesn't change my message.

[–]NormanDaNubcaek 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

No one's saying they don't deserve equality under the law. We're saying women's behavior has always been like this, and modern technology (social media), sexual freedom (contraceptives), and feminism has just allowed their poor behavior to flourish.

It was simply much easier to keep track of your woman in the past.

[–]dalef77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many humans, both males and females, have negative character traits. DrunkWiseman already pointed out how it was more common for "men to rape and pillage" in the past than it is today.

Society can have both negative and positive influences on human behavior. Just as society has placed curbs on many types of male behavior, such as violence, society can place similar curbs on female behavior. However, the problem today is that society not only tolerates many negative behavioral traits in females, but often encourages them.

For example, divorce is encouraged by society because it often provides women with cash and prizes, and primary custody of the children, if any. However, if divorce was more equitable, such as marital assets being divided based on who earned them, alimony was abolished, child custody was 50/50 with no party paying child support to the other, etc., then divorce would be discouraged. Women would still be able to file for divorce, but as they would not make out like bandits, they would probably be less inclined to do so.

In addition, if divorce was fair, women would be encouraged to do the right things in their relationships with their husbands. If she chooses to engage in emotional manipulation, physical or psychological abuse, "shit tests," the withholding of sex, cheating, and the like, she would know that her husband could just divorce her and she would be only left with what she had earned. This would encourage more positive behavior from her as acting negatively would be detrimental, not beneficial as it is now.

[–]Smitty6 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Well said. I'd also like to say that they are tatted up and they sleep around a lot. Feminism has given them sexual liberation because "it's their bodies and they can do whatever they want with them." They expect men who have standards to forgive them or accept this behavior but fail to realize that highly evolved men do not find those things attractive. This behavior only scratches the surface on why modern western women are not worth your time or energy.

[–]TedTheAtheist 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, they can do whatever they want with their bodies, and they know that they can stiff the man with the bill if they decide to give birth without the man's permission.

[–]MaxBrodin 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed, very well said. I would add something about male capacity for self delusion and seeing unicorns and NAWALTs where none exist. This delusion is capable of momentarily blinding the man, long enough to get into marriage, LTR or get kids by accident

[–]Sn0man79 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I always appreciated the tattoo thing these types were into. It was a clear warning signal to stay far, far away. Particularly the lower back tramp stamps and other obnoxious varieties.

[–]Trekbiker 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

tramp stamps and sleeves. Disgusting. Like cigarettes, an instant turn-off. A HUGE red flag

[–]Eidolon3436 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love it!! Give me sloots with ink and dyed hair all day long. I got a vas and no baby mommas. GAME THE FUCK ON!!

[–]TheSpiceMustAirflow 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

As a young man, my life plans involve no women whatsoever. Thank god.

[–]TajMy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not even hookers?

[–]TheSpiceMustAirflow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What, and pay people just because they were born with a vag? fuck them

[–]hollybegin 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish I could add something meaningful after this......

[–]jmayerz 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The issue with this is that it's on a subreddit where everyone shares the same mentality and knows everything you just said to be true, but the ones who really need it aren't here. You need to go spread the word insert cool movie reference, I don't know any.

[–]DrunkWiseman[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are plenty of lurkers that are on the fence. I was one of them at one point ;)

[–]Vanderkaum037 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Saved this one. Perfect. You gotta look out for yourself first. No one else will.

[–]pooshhMao 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

The modern woman will end up lonely, unloved and bitter.

[–]grufx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another tradcon/RP deludsion. They are quite happy alone with their tindr, cats, hiatchi's, anti-depressants and boxwine. They've spent the last century married in tradcon arrangements and have not only overwhelmingly rejected them but have weaponized them against men. Something tells me if they were happy being married to tradcon dullards they might be more defensive of the institution of marriage, not having destroyed it.

[–]camenossaber 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry, but most likely not. You, however, have the knowledge to avoid their trickery and live a kickass life.

[–]Eidolon3436 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No they will have cats. And experience the life that they chose for themselves. Maybe they will sisterwive each other or perhaps just "weigh enough for two". Regardless we ain't gotta Patriarch for their benefit so never marry them, never breed them, and never entangle them. They will get to "equal up" just like the rest of us who nevet had a pussy pass to begin with

[–]Xuixien_TheUnending 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most likely yes.

Marriage rates are plumetting because a) men are walking away from it in droves b) less "eligible" men (and many of those arent interested in committments). Cohabitation rates are also goong down as well and the men who can score? Why score a 35 year old when you can score a 25 year old?

Women are fucked, and its quite sad.

[–]LordPorker 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep, a great list but is indeed sad.

They're also becoming (or acting) much more 'masculine', and you'll see it everywhere. I noticed this trend quite early on during the mid-late eighties where women were being labelled as 'ladettes', due to their brash, and obnoxious ways. It's only got worse.

[–]mng20 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its like with the women who now are getting rather buff for a female and are being passed around as someone that's attractive. Can't be a real man if you think that's hot.

[–]camenossaber 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd rather gamble in Vegas than gamble my life... and I loathe gambling.

[–]5foot6withoutheels 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

She rarely has aspirations beyond comfort and safety, and any supposed initiative to "make the world a better place" is a means to fill up her Instagram with photos

lol true

[–]jford6i8 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women should have never been given rights for the reasons cited above

[–]dalef77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no problem with women having equal rights and equal responsibilities. However, it is the extra privileges that are the problem.